No Antibiotics, No Vaccines: A Pig Farmer on Food and Health
David Wong, Natural farming pig farmer, Oʻahu, Hawaiʻi (formerly in cattle, about 2,500 head) · United States (Hawaiʻi)
A Hawaiʻi pig farmer who started with nine piglets in 2012 says his farm uses no antibiotics, vaccines, hormones or steroids and came through two local disease outbreaks without trouble. He then argues, with news clippings and US disease graphs, that drugs in livestock and chemicals in food harm human health, and closes by telling the room he has cancer and is treating it with food alone.
What they found
Main claim: natural farming, which raises animals without antibiotics, vaccines, hormones or steroids, gives healthier food, and food has a direct effect on human health.
Personal farm experience and a review of news items and published graphs, not a study. The farm (in Hawaiʻi; name not caught) started with nine piglets in 2012. Herd size today, feed, housing, natural farming solutions used, growth rates and disease records are not stated. Slides: World Health Organization 'causes of antibiotic resistance', NPR (11/4/2013 and 3/20/2015), Reuters (4/8/2016), CIA World Factbook life expectancy 2015, CDC diabetes 1958–2014, autism and Parkinson's graphs plotted against glyphosate use, Alzheimer's cost projections, and David B. Agus's book The End of Illness.
- The speaker's natural farming pig farm — No antibiotics, no vaccines, no hormones, no steroids (slide and speech). No other details of feed or solutions given.
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Pigs raised since 2012 with no antibiotics, vaccines, hormones or steroids, 'doing quite well'
Started with nine baby pigs in 2012. People told him it could not succeed. No herd numbers, weights or mortality given.
▶ 1:09 Said and shown on the slides
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Two disease outbreaks nearby; farm quarantined twice, no problems
The state veterinarian saw the farm as highly susceptible because it does not vaccinate. The disease is not named.
▶ 3:40 As spoken
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FDA moved to revoke a pig drug approved in 1972 over cancer risk
Slide (Reuters, 4/8/2016): could leave a cancerous residue; used against swine dysentery and bacterial enteritis but also to promote weight gain; approved 44 years ago. The speaker says 'banned'; the slide says 'to revoke'. The drug is not named.
▶ 4:37 Said and shown on the slides
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Antibiotics are fed to livestock partly because animals gain weight faster
Slide (NPR, 11/4/2013): 'feeding small amounts of antibiotics to animals in order to make them grow faster.' World map (NPR, 3/20/2015): regions producing the most pork and chicken use the most antibiotics.
▶ 5:35 Said and shown on the slides
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The US ranks 43rd in life expectancy, at 79.7 years
Slide: CIA World Factbook 2015; Monaco first at 89.5, Japan 84.7, Taiwan 40th at 80.0. He contrasts this with US spending on health insurance.
▶ 12:10 Said and shown on the slides
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Autism and Parkinson's rates rise in step with glyphosate (Roundup) use
Slide graphs: autism R = 0.9886; Parkinson's deaths R = 0.860 against glyphosate, R = 0.937 against % GE corn and soy. Correlations only. He says: 'I'm not necessarily telling you that's bad or good.'
▶ 14:30 Said and shown on the slides
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The speaker has cancer and is treating it with food alone; his cancer counts are falling
No surgery, radiation or chemo. His doctors advised against it. Cancer type, the 'counts' and the time frame are not given.
▶ 18:51 As spoken
- An opinion talk, not a study: no farm data (herd size, growth, mortality, disease tests) are shown.
- The disease graphs show correlations over time; correlation does not show cause, and many things changed over the same years.
- The cancer account is one person, with no diagnosis, stage or measurements given.
- The life-expectancy ranking is not tied to farming practice by any data in the talk.
- No natural farming methods or solutions are described.
- The FDA item was a move to revoke approval (per the slide), not a completed ban.
- One Hawaiʻi farm reports raising pigs since 2012 with no antibiotics, vaccines, hormones or steroids, and coming through two local outbreaks without disease.
- Growth-promoting antibiotics in feed are an economic choice; a natural farming herd can be raised without them.
- Know your food source: we are what we eat, and what it eats.
Next to Master Cho's teaching
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Agrees
Pigs raised without antibiotics or medicine Cho describes natural farming pig houses as 'no odor, no medicine, no noise' and says pork soaked with antibiotics and growth hormones can never reach natural farming quality.
Cho, Janong Natural Farming (2003), p. 189
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Antibiotic overuse in conventional livestock Cho's pig presentation lists saving antibiotic and medical costs as a feature of natural farming livestock and cites KBS data on antibiotic use per 10,000 t of livestock.
Natural-Farming-Pig, p. 8–32
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Goes further
Healthy animals come through outbreaks without vaccines Cho cites stress hormones about 10 times lower in natural farming pigs and says they get little or no disease; he does not address vaccination directly.
2017/Advanced Cho/swine/IMG_1464 @ 0:02:35 (translated)
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Agrees
Food quality and human health Cho separates 'safe food' (free of pathogens) from 'healthy food', and says natural farming aims at the second.
2017/Advanced Cho/advanced fruit/IMG_3462 @ 0:00:00 (translated)
“One of the interesting things that has happened on our farm is we do not use antibiotics. We don't use any vaccines.”
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“We are what we eat, and importantly, what it eats.”
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“I am your test case. I have cancer. I am being treated solely with nutritious food.”
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In this talk
- 0:00Nine piglets in 2012
- 1:09No antibiotics, vaccines, hormones, steroids
- 2:10Hormones in cattle
- 3:21Vaccines and two quarantines
- 4:08Antibiotic resistance
- 4:37FDA moves against a pig drug
- 5:35Antibiotics for growth
- 6:13World antibiotic use map
- 6:29Natural farming and human health
- 8:19Lessons from smoking
- 11:02US life expectancy: 43rd
- 12:42Dr. David Agus
- 13:37Diabetes, autism, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's
- 17:25Know your food source
- 18:51"I am your test case"
- 19:48Closing charge
Transcript
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0:00 Okay, yeah. You have to bear with me. I'm not a trained public speaker, so we're gonna go through this. And I have [unclear]. We started [our farm; name unclear] with nine baby pigs in 2012. And we've had a lot of presentations today showing the benefits of natural farming relative to pig farming. So I'm just going to flip through these because you guys have already discussed and worked on a lot of these things.
0:49 And the benefits of natural farming with raising pigs. This is a slide of one of our workers. As a side thing, we grew taro [variety name unclear], and in all fields it grew about this high. And just look what we just did. Okay, one of the interesting things that has happened on our farm is we do not use antibiotics. We don't use any vaccines. No hormones, no steroids. And everyone said there was no possible way we could be a success in raising pigs. So we're doing quite well.
1:40 This progression caused us to rethink a lot of the things that we would normally rely on. And starting from the bottom of this slide, steroids: we ban it from professional sports. Why are we using it to feed pigs? And then it ends up in our food supply and ultimately ends up in us. Hormones, in my previous work in livestock, we raised a lot of cattle, about 2,500 cattle. And we were very exposed to the use of hormones in the reproduction phase of handling dairy cows.
2:31 What was really shocking was 1 cc of an estrogenic compound [given] to a female cow [made it] act and resemble a bull. And that cow is 1,400 to 1,500 pounds, and 1 cc can have that much impact. So messing with hormones has a tremendous impact on the physiological aspects of how this animal reacts. So we wanted to avoid any hormones. So flip that question around a little bit and ask yourself, why are girls developing sexually so early in their lives? And why are guys now six feet ten, three hundred pounds, and they can
3:20 run the 40 in five flat? Vaccines: it's an [ongoing] discussion as to the benefits and the hazards of using vaccines. So we stopped using vaccines. Where our farm is, we've had two major outbreaks of disease, and our farm was quarantined both times, because from the public standpoint or from the state veterinarian standpoint we're extremely susceptible because we're not using any vaccines. We did not have any problems. So the subject that I really want to kind of get to a little bit is
4:08 antibiotics. We're using no antibiotics. This is from the World Health Organization. What we want to look at is this particular corner: the overuse of antibiotics in livestock and fish farming is a major contributor to antibiotic resistance. This is an interesting situation here. The FDA this year in April banned the use of this particular antibiotic. Now what that thing is saying is it's a nice
4:53 way of saying it causes cancer This slide. Okay, what was important is the antibiotic was approved 44 years ago, and it took the government 44 years to finally ban it, knowing that it was a carcinogenic compound The other big thing is antibiotics is generally used in raising livestock
5:45 because one of the side effects of using antibiotics in feed is animals gain weight and grow faster. So it's an economic benefit for a commercial operator to use a relatively high degree of antibiotics. This is a slide showing antibiotic usage throughout the world. The highest amounts are in red and the medium amounts are in yellow, so you can see it is not limited to one particular area. What Master Cho and Professor Kim have been
6:43 presenting to you has been an unimaginable and unbelievable, has an unbelievable, has a huge impact on our health and the health of future generations for each of us. Please allow me to digress a little bit from everything to explore the Korean natural farming from a more holistic approach and to present to you some of the potential impacts of Korean natural farming on human health. So before we get to that I would like to discuss with you two interesting points the first is you all know we have conventional farming
7:33 organic farming and we're here for natural farming we have always been told that using chemicals antibiotics hormones steroids is the only way well we can add GMO fertilizer and everything else is the only way that we are going to be able to feed the growing population on a shrinking land base coupled with a shrinking agricultural labor force. What you are learning today and why you are here is we all know that this is not true. The second point that I
8:18 I want to bring up is that natural farming is a process. So remember smoking. I'm old enough to know that in the 1960s doctors were on ads saying that smoking is good for us. I still can remember the phrasing in the ads, walk a mile for a camel. And the way to success and happiness is to be a Marlboro Man. Then we said smoking might be bad for your health.
9:04 Might be bad for your health. So we developed filtered cigarettes. Then we started to get serious. We said there is a no smoking section in the airplane and a smoking section in the airplane. Not realizing that we were just kidding ourselves because it's a closed environment, it's a filtered system and the airplane is full of oxygen tanks. So why would we allow smoking anywhere? And then we said, we will not permit smoking in bars. And everyone said, you can't drink and not smoke.
9:54 And all the bars are going to go broke. Well, the bars didn't go broke. And we took the next step. We should not have smoking in restaurants. And then they said, well, smoking in restaurants is going to cause all the restaurants to close. Well, that proved false. And then we got bolder and said, we are now not going to have smoking in public buildings. Then the shocking news came that secondary smoke is just as damaging as smoking. It took us 45 years to come to this amazing conclusion.
10:41 In the previous slide, it took the federal government 44 years to ban the carcinogenic antibiotic that was readily being used in pigs. So with these two thoughts, let's look at this. We are blessed in the United States with the best doctors, some of the best doctors in the world. We are blessed with some of the best hospitals in the world. We are blessed with the best pharmaceutical companies. We also have some of the best medical researchers.
11:32 And we also pay the highest amount per capita for health insurance. So with all that said, where does the United States rank in the area of life expectancy in the world? Is the United States in the top five? How many would vote that the United States is in the top five? Top ten? Are we even in the top twenty? Well, shocking as it may be, we're forty-third. So, it raises an interesting question as to if we got all those nice things, why are we
12:30 at 43rd? If I came to you and said I have the secret to extend your life 10 years, would I get your attention? Dr. David Agus is considered by many as the leading oncologist in the world. He is a very interesting character. He spends one third of his time teaching at USC, University of Southern California. He spends one third of his time managing USC Westside Cancer Research Center and one third of his time he spends treating billionaires. To be his patient, you've got to qualify
13:17 as a billionaire. He raises the question that we really need to evaluate the quality of our life. Okay, this is a slide of showing the incidence of diabetes. We like to talk about diabetes, we kind of know about diabetes, but there are a lot of people in my peer group that are going to kidney dialysis three times a week,
14:04 four to eight hours each time. Huge impact on the quality of your life. What is important is, notice how exponentially this line is running in this section of the graph. The cutoff point is year 2000. This is a graph showing autism. Look at 1991,
14:53 1995: the incidence was almost negligible. Look at how fast this is running up. Interestingly enough, this red line, this is not my graph, I mean I'm copying somebody else's graph, but the red line is the use of Roundup. This is Parkinson's. Again, look at 1991, 1987. And then the tremendous increase. The yellow line and the red line is the use of Roundup in corn and wheat.
15:44 I'm not necessarily telling you that's bad or good, I'm just showing you a line. Sorry I messed up. Okay, this is Alzheimer's. Similar lines, similar graphs. All of the major diseases, if you look at lung cancer, pancreatic cancer, they're all similar in the way that they are.
16:41 What I'm trying to point out here is all the money in the world cannot save you once you get into this kind of a situation. The owner of the Denver Broncos, his team won the Super Bowl last year. He is at home with perfect care, but he has no idea where he's at and he cannot even know that his team, the thing that he worked so hard for, was accomplished and never got to go on the Super Bowl. Natural farming plus sustainable agriculture plus clean healthy food gives you the opportunity
17:37 to live life to its fullest. We need to know our food source. Dr. Agus, in his complete research and the years of experience that he spent in the medical business and he wrote a book. You are welcome to read this book. The summation of this book, he says, we are what we eat, and importantly, what it eats. Let me close by thanking Dr. Kim and Master Cho and the special chef that provided the
18:34 Korean natural farming food last night, and Professor Kim said, quote, food heals. I am your test case. I have cancer. I am being treated solely with nutritious food. The Western doctors have strongly advised me against doing this because they do not have linear evidence that this works and they don't believe that it does work.
19:23 My cancer counts are going down and I have not had any surgery, radiation, chemo, or antibodies. So what I'm trying to explain is food does impact your health. Food heals. Food is medicine. All of you are leaders for the next generation of global agricultural production. In addition to evaluating and implementing Korean natural farming for its capacity to impact food production
20:09 economic stability and the resulting social dynamics, please consider Korean natural farming's impact on human health, quality of life and life expectancy.