JMS Microbe Recipe, IMO Harvest Timing, Pig Butchering
Drake recaps his second winter KNF teacher training, including a field trip with 83-year-old Dr. Park to Kohala. Students included Dan, learning KNF solutions for coffee leaf rust on the Kona side, Eric, and Monique, Jenny, and Bonds from the Native American Youth Association in Portland, who work on returning people to "first foods" and taught Drake about medicinal salts and smoked salt.
He shows off the class's best IMO collection, explaining how to check readiness by feel: a cold box means it isn't ready, a warm box (over 100 degrees) means microbial activity has peaked and it's time to harvest into sugar right away.
Drake then walks through Jadam Microbial Solution, which he calls "disgustingly cheap microbes": blend 5 gallons of water, about 1 cup of rich indigenous soil, 5 tablespoons of salt, and cooked potato starch, then ferment 24 to 72 hours. Bubble rings pulling away from the edge and a sweet or sour smell mean it's ready; a stinky smell means fertilizer microbes have taken over. Dilute at least 1 to 10 before applying, turning one 5-gallon batch into 50 gallons.
He also covers harvesting one of his pigs, learning porterhouse cuts from a butcher, why pigs and chickens work well in city agriculture with no smell or waste, and his ho'oponopono reconciliation with an old friend, Chris, during the Kohala trip.
Questions answered
- 14:36 What is student Dan learning to fight coffee leaf rust? — He came from the Kona side already knowing some natural farming and leveled up his mastery of the KNF solutions, learning the why behind them, to take on coffee leaf rust.
- 23:23 What do 'first foods' mean in indigenous nutrition work? — Monique, Jenny, and Bonds work with the Native American Youth Association in Portland teaching people to grow and eat first foods instead of relying on food deserts and processed food.
- 26:42 Why bring pigs and chickens back into cities? — They become your waste disposal with no smell, no cleaning, and no antibiotics needed, turning garbage into what Drake calls your piggy bank.
- 27:27 What is a porterhouse cut on a pig? — It's just a pork chop with the loin left on, something Drake learned from butcher Zach after harvesting his pig, Baby Bacon.
- 49:09 How do you know when an IMO box is ready to harvest? — Feel the bottom of the box: cold means not ready, warm to the touch means it's over 100 degrees and microbial activity has peaked.
- 55:25 What are the four steps of Master Cho's IMO process? — Collecting seed IMO, preserving seed IMO, propagating the microbes, then making foundation IMO, which Drake rates as expert difficulty.
- 56:12 How do you make Jadam Microbial Solution (disgustingly cheap microbes)? — Blend 5 gallons of water, about 1 cup of rich indigenous soil, 5 tablespoons of salt, and cooked potato starch, then ferment 24 to 72 hours.
- 58:51 How do you know when JMS is at its harvest peak? — Watch for bubble rings pulling away from the edge with a sweet or sour smell; once it turns stinky, fertilizer and putrefying microbes have taken over.
- 1:03:25 How much do you dilute JMS before applying it? — Dilute at least 1 to 10 with water, turning one 5-gallon batch into 50 gallons of usable solution.
- 1:04:52 Is JMS as good as Master Cho's IMO recipe? — No, JMS is a cheap fast starting point, but Master Cho's longer recipe builds stronger microbes and will get you further.
- 1:08:23 Do you need to dangle bags of potato and soil in the bucket? — No, just blend the cooked potato and soil into the water directly instead of bagging it.
- 38:56 What happened between Drake and Chris in Kohala? — Dr. Park brought them together on a field trip to Chris's farm, and Drake felt he had reached true ho'oponopono with him after years apart.
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In this episode
- 0:00 Intro and I Ching reading
- 1:55 Welcome and Pure KNF membership launch
- 6:03 Two winter KNF teacher trainings recap
- 8:36 Dr. Park's history and legacy
- 14:36 Student Dan tackles coffee leaf rust
- 23:23 First foods: indigenous nutrition work
- 26:42 Animal agriculture in cities: pigs and chickens
- 27:27 Butchering the pig: porterhouse cuts
- 38:56 Ho'oponopono: reconciliation with Chris
- 45:48 2024 outlook, goats vs cows
- 49:09 IMO collection reveal and temperature check
- 51:06 Timing an IMO harvest by touch
- 55:25 Master Cho's four-step IMO process
- 56:12 JMS recipe: disgustingly cheap microbes
- 58:51 Bubble rings: worker vs fertilizer microbes
- 1:03:25 Diluting JMS 1 to 10 for application
- 1:04:52 JMS vs Master Cho's IMO: moped vs Tesla
- 1:08:23 Blending tip: skip the bags
Transcript
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1:00 Outro Music Hey, aloha.
1:55 Welcome to Office Hours for Korean Natural Farming. for January 21st, 2024. Yeah, welcome Cecily, one of our Pure KNF members. And Pure KNF membership is now open. It's something we launched in 2024, and I am so glad to have folks be a part of this and have the foundation not only bring you the office hours, but also so many more things to come and hear already. But before I get into that, I notice most YouTube people say, you know, even though every time they do the same thing,
2:44 it's like, this is the office hours. People call me Dr. Drake, and what we do here is answer questions from everybody. whatever you got p or knf live coming at you and um and then whatever else comes up usually i'll have something planned um and we'll go over those recipes and such and so forth and go dive deep into korean natural farming so maybe if i start each episode that way more people will understand what the heck they're watching instead of just like diving into questions and welcoming people and all that you know it's a live show but um noticed i can probably get better at it so
3:21 So today, starting off with a little bit of higher wisdom for us, is progress. You progress like the rising sun. The brighter your virtue, the higher you rise. This hexagram announces a time of significant and easy progress. Your influence and understanding grows by leaps and bounds, as long as you maintain your alliance with the sage. For it is from that alliance that the current progress springs.
4:07 The only limit to your growth now is your devotion to higher things. If this is true and complete and steady, there will be great gains now. The image of this hexagram is that of the sun rising over the earth. To our view, the further it moves away from darkness, the higher the sun rises. The same is true of us. The extent to which we progress is determined by how far we can distance ourselves from inferior influences. It is important when success comes not to fall into the traps of the ego, taking credit
4:56 for gains, resting on our laurels, indulging in desires, or plotting toward ambitions. The superior person instead uses times of progress to brighten their virtue, recognizing it was their commitment to proper principles that brought about success in the first place. continue to purify your thoughts attitudes and conduct now the greatest power in this beneficial time accrues to those who serve the higher power in every moment so
5:44 you know this I Ching always seems to be so apropos to what we're up to appropriate and just finished a week-long K&F training course, pure K&F training at the K&F farm, wrapped up my second of two winter trainings. So if you missed it next winter, get ready. Hopefully I'll be able to do more, and hopefully inflation won't have raised the price too much, because the best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The second best time is right now. And so I know some folks want to take it again next year. See, hopefully I'll be here. Hopefully the, you know, we'll see what happens 2024.
6:32 And hopefully it'll happen again. Because it's something that I really enjoy. Not only the going through the nine core solutions, but also getting to know the students. going through the teacher training, which is a highly intimate, getting to know each other, getting to improve our character, raising us into better teachers to pass on what Master Cho here has given us. And, um, and also, you know, this, this time, the time prior in November, we had Dr. Park over for dinner with us. Um, and then this time we actually got to ride
7:22 with Dr. Park in the car. We went up to, um, North Kohala, which is about a two hour drive North of here, right behind me, North. Um, and, um, got to spend the day with him in the car. Uh, and so we kind of swapped out which students were riding with Dr. Park and got to interact with him and find out, you know, the, the origins of, um, Master Cho arriving in Hawaii, how Dr. Park found Korean natural farming, how it became, you know, established in Hawaii, and then how now it's coming to you around the world and this
8:01 global movement that Dr. Park, in my opinion, is one of the most staple people in there. And if you read my book, you'll find that Dr. Park is mentioned here in the beginning. So let me let me see if I can pull up the book there, you know. But where is it? Let's open this and then get that to come over here. and also um well this is the older edition also I just dropped a new edition of the book so um be looking for that to come out to everyone who's bought a continuing edition of the book I know I've been dragging my feet on that but finally had time to get out a new edition so
8:49 over here looking at the book um but if you look right up here my my mentors mentors. You know, Master Cho, obviously, here at the top, let me make my mouse bigger there so you can see it, but, you know, Master Cho here at the top, one of the main mentors, because, you know, without Master Cho, he's the guy who kind of coined natural farming into this, but Dr. Park right here, you know, I got introduced by Ginger John to Dr. Park and through Mike DuPont, which Mike DuPont should probably make the cut. He should probably be in this book as well.
9:23 I should probably add him in. He's been hugely influential, but this right here is Dr. Park. This is him in Korea translating Master Cho, you know, direct below of doing this. And he's now 83 years old. And he is, you know, starting, I was talking with him, I'm like, talking about all these adventures we had in Korea. And he's like, oh man, my memory is going a little bit. So it's, you know, as he's reaching 83 and just all the life he's lived, it's, you know, what a challenge to go through. But, you know,
10:05 we were recollecting on stories. He remembers a lot. I was like, Dr. Park, you've taught over, you know, 5,000, at least, you know, 6,000, 7,000 people directly from yourself when we were estimating this. And he's like, he's like, he couldn't even remember that he had done so, so much good. That's how good and pure and innocent he is. Um, so it was, you know, that, that's another part of being here for this opportunity is not only, you know, do you get to be here, have full integration with what we're doing, but also get to meet these legends of
10:36 natural farming and get such a rich, um, more history, you know, from master Cho, Dr. Park, Kim Chang's passed away. Ginger John's getting elderly too. Um, you know, the rest of these folks, you know, um, it, it just, you gotta be at the right place, right time, right amount, uh, just like a bunch of other things. But, um, but you know, here today, uh, we got stonemason in the house. Also a, um, a member of pure K and F supporting the foundation supporting himself. and, you know, what do you, let's see here, let's go pureknf.org here. And so, you know, if you do want to become a member,
11:19 Pure K&F Foundation, pureknf.org, be part of it. Right now, you're really helping to support us, but over here on the membership side, you can become a member and get into, you know, the micro documentaries, which you got to, um, you know, you can hit join now here, go ahead. And it's, um, you know, $60 minimum, but, um, but no maximum to the price. So if this is just a yearly thing, your annual price of, um, you know, getting, um, getting into this, I think $60 is $5 a month or 120 is $10 a month, or you could put this in at a much higher rate if you want it to be really
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12:49 that we are getting together and as we get more membership it enables us to support you better and then build out more, more things. So getting our micro documentaries out, rolled out first, that's something we could offer right away. And we are working on everything else. So appreciate your membership. Um, you know, um, pay, pay what you can from that. Um, you know, it all goes a long way to helping this episode or this happen, but then also in the future. So hopefully I won't spend too much time pitching that, but I always got to mention it now that we got that going.
13:20 appreciate your understanding for that. And it's good to see Tyler in the house. We got Oklahoma coming in. We got Rainbow Possum Farm from Washington State. Stuck at work. Stuck at work. You mean enjoying work and tuning in simultaneously. What a privilege of the internet to do that. We got Sao coming in from Brazil. What's up? I got to learn a little bit of Portuguese so I can say, hey, hey, and or whatever your indigenous language is down there. And we got Mark in the house. Mark earned an orange hat. He came to the class. And, you know, get your legendary orange
14:07 hat. Since I'm talking about the class, and since, you know, this year, 2024, I wanted to get into a bit of jadam um going in early to get into that but since i'm talking about the class and the great people and we got brandon from new zealand what's up in the house ancient valley growers our newest orange hat um family there matt and andrea out in kau what's up his orange hat's already filthy that tends to happen um but let's see if i can get this to flip here and share a little bit. We had some terrible lighting in our kitchen because the power was kind of out while we were doing this,
14:51 and we ran class really late. But if you can see, there's Matt there. Then we had Dan coming up. So Matt came over from Ka'u on Big Island. We got Dan coming over from Konoside. He's been talking about the coffee leaf rust. And so he was sent over to learn the KNF because they're going to do that to solve the coffee leaf rust that's occurring. And so that's super cool. And so he, you know, he got some funding there to come over, do that. So, you know, we and so through the class, we got learned all the solutions.
15:36 He was already pretty Akamai, like knowing, meaning he was already pretty tuned in learning what was going on with natural farming. He had been learning from some other folks on the Kona side, the west side of the island. It's a big island, so it takes a while. and so he'd already been learning a bit but he just leveled up in his mastery of understanding the solutions getting so so much of you know you know a lot of the how but even more of the why we're doing certain things which is sometimes so much more valuable because if you know why
16:15 then we can be you can become your own master of the solutions right if you just know how and you've learned through the internet and you're doing these things, you don't know why you're doing them. So you don't even know if you're necessarily correct or not. And that's the other thing about the office hours. You come in, ask the questions, why am I doing this? What, you know, what's the deep, what's the depth? And then also hitting up KNF support and going back to the past episodes and searching through there and finding your topics, asking questions on KNF
16:43 support. So much good stuff happening there. But nothing like coming here and learning. So Dan made it over for the week, stayed here. Such great learning between us. I teach them, I teach my students, but I also learn so much from my students. So really appreciate that. Then we got my beautiful wife, Susanna here. Me, I don't know if you can tell, but I'm wearing a beautiful necklace. That necklace is very special. Comes from the Pacific Northwest canoe folks, tribes up there of folks and very, very, very special. I'm honored to have
17:25 it was gifted to me by Monique here. And she's wearing her tribal casual attire. And part of the teacher training is you teach a course. And she taught us a beautiful song from her, her tribe, her folks of people, her community. And that song was all about unity, bringing, bringing people together, the healing that we're all doing together. And just so, so amazing of everything that got shared with us. And, you know, just the magic that happened between everyone that was there. Um, and before I get to her, um, we have going, going this way because that's my right
18:16 to left. It's your left to right, I guess. But, um, and then here, Eric, Eric came to the class. Um, I don't know if you can see Eric. He's there. Uh, he's been doing helping folks install food forests and all kinds of things. Also trying to live more sustainably on his land, be a better part of the community here. And, um, he came here from just over the river. So he's just, um, just up the hill from ginger, John, uh, who's one of my mentors and he made it over the river down here. So I think it's kind of funny how the tides turn where even the person I learned from
18:53 ginger, John, who introduced me to natural farming, isn't necessarily still, um, doing it or teaching it because he's already got his IMOs there. And, um, you know, just cause I get introduced to someone doesn't mean that, um, it's like I went deep in natural farming. As soon as I got this, I got the natural farming inoculation. I knew this was what I really wanted to do with my life. And I've really spent, you know, the past decade, 15 years of my life, uh, just learning K and F time after time, after time, after time. And just really that, that knowledge, that transmission
19:30 It goes from knowledge into wisdom of practicing and practice, practice, practice, perfect. You know, make it perfect. Go study so many broad, diverse things and bring it back into natural farming. That's how I'm able to go into so many different things and love all the students. Everybody that I meet always has something more to share if I'm willing to learn. And so if you took my class, you know what I'm talking about. And you will find that once you open that loop up, it's like, ooh, the world has, you know, God is always presenting us something.
20:07 And if we're open to it, we will learn, we will get better. So thanks. Big thanks to Eric. He taught us how to find the e-spot. I'm just elaborating on this class. He didn't teach us actually how to find the e-spot. he taught us how to give a really nice back rub as part of his, um, his course, his teacher training course that he taught to us. So, uh, continuing across on the students, I wish, I wish some of them were able to come in here, but we, uh, and you may have tuned in last Sunday and caught a bit of our class. Um, last Sunday was an interesting course. I just, I just put the camera,
20:42 turn the camera on and faced it out. And I actually took the thing down because the sound was bad. I might redo the sound and repost it. Enhance the sound a bit. Enhance. Enhance. And then repost it up so you can hear and just get a sneak peek of what the class was like. Because I tried to give everyone last week, because I was trying to do both at the same time. It's so hard. I really got to focus on my teaching when I'm here. Folks are like here to learn. And if I'm just focused on the office hour, it's like, you know.
21:12 although I do appreciate all the super chats and we do have members in the audience right so so I do have obligations out to you as well as being here as right now as a representative of the Pure KNF Foundation I want to bring you the best of everything but this is also just free to the world because that's what we do right and this is a worldwide audience we have people from all over here so I appreciate that we even got Brandon from New Zealand right so we're reaching literally around the world right now so you're you sitting there realize you're part of a worldwide mycelial
21:42 network plugged into our minds and brains and everything, and we are doing this together. So thanks for being a part of it. But coming across here, Monique already introduced her. She is from the Pacific Northwest region, but has ancestral roots to many tribes from all over what we would consider the Americas today. I'm sure they had different names back when those folks were the dominant culture. um but um today you know understanding uh where we're at where we're going why we came to this place and um so much rich cultural history um so these these three folks on this side all came
22:27 presently you would know it as the portland area and they came and they are all working at the Native American Youth Association, whatever, NAYA, they call it, N-A-Y-A, Native American Youth, I don't know what the A is, probably association, I'm just guessing on that, I'm not sure exactly, but they are, they're working with indigenous youth and families and urban folks that, And their mission altogether is really to return folks back to like what they call first foods.
23:08 And this is something they got to elaborate a whole bunch on while they're here of helping my understanding of, you know, basically like if I was to bring it back to Hawaiian culture, it would be like introducing folks back to like the canoe crops. Or, you know, before them, it was like bananas were here, right? When the menuhunis were around, they only ate bananas. And the, um, yeah, so, um, but introducing people back to those foods that, um, really nourish you instead of processed foods and people that are living in the food deserts.
23:43 Um, one amazing thing to me was that listening to them talk about over dinners and everything talking about how, um, they just don't have access to food in the cities and they're all living in the Portland area. And it's just like, you know, I think of Portland, I think of it as like, I don't know, more like more health food store type of folks. But even then they go to health food stores, you know, health food stores and they can't even get good food. So and or especially even the first foods, meaning like the things that traditional people used to grow in that area.
24:19 and so um so they in order to get access they have to grow it and they have to show people how to return to this and even they themselves don't necessarily have this like intact lineage of folks doing it they're relearning and this part process of doing this it's like it's a whole adventure from so many ways of getting um you know getting getting back to nature getting back to health, getting back to systems that worked for hundreds or thousands of years before our kind of temporary culture that came in. That's the predominant culture today, which is so just like,
24:58 you know, just your fast food, you're just stopping there and grabbing a Wendy's and you're off on your way. Um, and, and you, you know, you're, you're sacrificing your health and your wellbeing and everything. And they're, they're preying on us to, to, to kind of have hit our, weak spots. Like, do you want a milkshake with that? It's like, should you really be grinding a milkshake right now? And what preservatives are in there? And what did it take to ship that across the nation and the central aggregation and the feedlots and all these things? Um,
25:30 and also, also this week I went to with, with Monique and Jenny, who I'll introduce next. Um, we went to go see common ground, which is the followup to kiss the ground. Um, and if you want to cry and be like, oh, then go watch that movie. Check out Common Ground. It is so tragic. But then also I like the message. It was a lot along the lines of what I'm doing, which is caring about microbes and doing sensible animal agriculture and really included a whole bunch of indigenous folks in there and all those folks. So if you love Kiss the Ground, check out Common Ground
26:08 because it's even further in. Kiss the ground, they kind of concluded that composting was the way. And then I was like, no, animals are the way because they compost so much faster than other things. So I'm so proud to see that common ground came out and was like animal agriculture. And I was like, yes, that's the way. And, but they talked about grazing on pastures and really that was their solution. But KNF is one step ahead. Again, it's always, I'm always like, ah, what, you know, come make a movie about this. I know, I know the future. And, but that's ego. That's arrogant.
26:38 you know when the time's right it'll happen but even bringing the animals the pigs the chickens back into the cities because no smell no cleaning no waste uh no no um juice no um antibiotics um it brings the animals back and they live in harmony with us and that's that's how we get these cycles going right so you can bring the pigs and have your lower floor of your building be pigs they're your garbage disposals they're your waste facilities especially if you're mitigating plastic now everything's being cycled around it becomes your piggy bank your wealth and when you want to
27:14 make a withdrawal you just and get that and um last week i don't know if i mentioned it but i did harvest one of my pigs um baby bacon is now in the freezer she's delicious we were able to nourish the whole class. Everybody got to enjoy some great porterhouses, which I learned is just a pork chop with the loin left on. And I got to learn from an amazing butcher. Thanks. Shout out to Zach here because before I just like would cut up a pig and had no idea. But now I know all the cuts and everything and I was able to get mentored a little bit and learn. So long story short,
27:56 first foods, learning about that, learning about all the work that's being done by Monique, um, and her, um, her advocacy of what's happening. Um, and so many of the things to, to recover and learn. And I learned so much. Um, and then coming across here is Jenny and, um, I'm going to call her a medicine woman. I know she'd kind of blush at that because I know, um, but she's a fire keeper and a medicine woman. Let's see if we can get that to come back. Yeah. Um, and just an amazing, uh, beautiful spirit of being there. Um, and, um, yeah. Um, her, it was, it was actually
28:47 really cool for her. I just, I, you know, since they're not here, I'm just going to speak for which, you know, whatever it is, what it is. But she was into making vinegars, making medicinal tinctures. She brought me some tea, like a tea blend that she made, right, by including natural kind of plants she's growing, but also some weeds and just understanding the nature of things and making these blends and just such a great tea. It was called calm down or something. I probably should have looked it up. But it was this really calming
29:25 blend of different herbs that were put in. And so she and Monique both had zero natural farming experience before they got here. So they literally went zero to 60, or I say that as like zero to 100, keep it 100, Joe, in learning natural farming. And we're able to stick with it and keep with it. and I didn't lose these folks. And so literally with no experience, you're able to come to the class and learn and understand the whys of everything. And I connect what I'm trying to teach into how you're already trained and what you already know. And so she was able to totally
30:02 jive with what we're doing. Not a hundred percent on everything. I'm sure I probably offend everyone in my own proper way of, because I am who I am and everyone, you know, everyone, you know, it's all, it's all a good learning thing to get together. Um, but just, just sharing this experience and her class was to teach us how to make medicinal salts and how to make smoked salt. And so she's using these herbal processes to imbue into salt, put it into a crystalline form and then absorb that into your body. And just an amazing, amazing course and everything to share with her and just
30:45 all of our whole interaction this whole time has just been top notch. Talk about a present person, someone who will look you directly in the eyes and not shy away and really want to look deep into your soul. Thank you, Jenny. And what an amazing time to be sharing that and bring, And hopefully the things I've shared will help in the medicine making realm and all that together. And so and then, you know, there's so much to say about everybody, but I only have an hour. We're already half hour through. I guess I could just keep going.
31:21 But I also want to bring up Bonds here on the far that side of Bonds. What an amazing person to meet, learning about the diversity and the journey. And they were the catalyst for bringing Jenny and Monique here, kind of this bridge between worlds of being an Australian, moving to what they would call Turtle Island and then connecting with and feeling the desire and everything to work with indigenous tribal people and to bring that knowledge through
32:13 of being university educated in Australia and also from the neighborhood around Cecily. I think Western Australia, Perth, I think was the city that was nearby that they mentioned as being their hometown and bringing that through. and just the concern of wanting to make sure that nobody gets left behind and that, you know, as we move into the future, that there's so much in the past that has been done. But that, yeah, I would just wrap it up to say like, we're moving forward and putting our energy
33:02 towards making sure that we're all in this together. And yeah, and then they also had a degree in like agroecology and like soil sciences, and that everything kind of, that natural farming kind of meshed together. And they were telling me we're sitting on the couch and, um, they said like, it was a gamble coming here. They really had no idea what they were getting. I jumped in and just decided to take my class. And, and I asked, did this exceed your expectations. They said, yeah, like beyond exceeding what they got here. So, um,
33:52 you know, that's all I can tell you. Uh, they, they studied with Elaine Ingham, uh, all kinds of stuff, knowing all these things are browned and was able to, um, take the gamble, you know, otherwise they would have been freezing up in Portland. I heard it was like seven degrees, ice storms, snow days for everyone else. But they were here in Hawaii. And I just saw Jenny and Monique walking down this morning. They went up to turn the IMO pile one last time. We hadn't turned it all day because, but it was still got up to 118, meaning it's still
34:25 active, but it's taken a whole day before it needs to be turned. And it's like 11 days. They're only here for like seven days for class, but they're sticking around for a few days to explore the islands and they were able to turn it and they came down and they said that they went to the beach yesterday all day soaked in the water and they got a tan so for all of you that are freezing your butts off you know think about it come to hoi learn enjoy get your winter nourishment get your vitamin d here and come back with a tan and make everyone else wish they had come to the knf
34:59 farm to learn for a week. But I just, you know, with that wrapping up of the class, the folks that were here, the specialness that was shared, I just can't thank y'all enough for showing up, enriching my life, enabling me to work as hard as I possibly can. I can tell you these weeks when I teach these classes, I go, I go, I deliver. I don't stop. I just everything, everything, everything. We could go to 11 at night and I'd still wake up, you know, and do it the next day. I do need a few hours to milk, um, throughout the day. Do need a few hours to make sure my,
35:38 my cattle, everything don't die while we're doing class. But, um, but even I got a fish delivery, I was able to do that at night and just like going, going, going, going, going. Um, I bring it and I really need it yesterday. I was feeling a little exhausted while I was cleaning everything up and I was like, and I, you know, you know how you feel when you're completely exhausted, but I work myself to complete exhaustion. I give my all for this week. And, um, what a special thing, because I tell you when you go and you give that much, the rewards that come back are just
36:11 tenfold, uh, and life experiences. And, um, this week too, um, I don't know if you noticed, but we were able to head up to Kohala. I know Chris actually shared on his Instagram a little bit of what we were doing but we went up to Kohala with Dr. Park and here's us at Chris's brother's farm harvesting some ginger and we got to do a little field trip, get up there, do that. That's Dr. Jenny Choi right there. Amazing woman. Haven't seen her for some time. We traveled to Korea together, was able to reunite with her. That's Dr. Park in all of his
37:01 innocence inviting us up there. A lot of these folks in the back, I think that's Eva and her husband and her old Hannah in the back talking with Chris there. And let's see. And then we had the YWAM folks come out, um, university of nations folks, and just got our students to meet their students and these things. Um, and this thing, let's see. It doesn't matter if I'm in focus, does it? Let's see. Will it focus? There we go. Um, and just, you know, uh, got to do, dig up some ginger, see what he was doing. And also first time I've seen Chris since probably
37:43 2018. We got to sit together. He invited me to lunch. I mean, he invited everyone to lunch, but I got to ride in the car with him, just talk story, bro down like it was old times and felt this ho'oponopono in my life. And I was asked by Dan, are you friends with Chris? You know, a few days before. And I said, yeah. And I think it's that change of heart and that change of truly reaching what they in holland culture what they call ho'oponopono that i have truly moved towards um pono and um what's happened has happened what's happening now is even better
38:23 and um moving forward and abel dr park called me seven in the morning on thursday was like i got this opportunity like he he's like chris invited me up to his farm can you help me because he's 83 and he couldn't drive by himself. And so when my elder calls me and asks me for a favor, I went to my class and I'm like, look, I got this opportunity. We can go. And I was kind of promising. Then we go on a field trip. And I was like, look, we got this opportunity, A, to help my elder. He called me, B, to go on a field trip and C, you know,
38:56 see what the good Lord has in store for me in terms of truly testing have I reached true Ho'oponopono had I found true healing and nothing like, you know, going up and seeing someone that you haven't seen for years for various reasons I'm not going to get into. And it worked out. I felt such brotherly love. I felt this thing of that we hadn't skipped the beat. It was in Dr. Park and all his innocence. He reunited Young Song Cho and Master Cho. He was able to reunite Chris and I, you know, two folks out learning, teaching natural farming,
39:46 had differences for whatever reason, but able to come back and to feel just brotherly love, compassion. You know, they say, forgive, but don't forget. And I just felt so much forgiveness, even without forgetting. I didn't have to pretend like nothing happened. I know what's happened between us. I know he has his reasons. I have my reasons. But true forgiveness, I believe from my perspective, my heart was able to just be present as a brother, not holding any resentments anywhere, and just to present myself and to throw myself into the
40:28 unknown of I didn't know what I was going to expect when I went up to Kohala and to see, you know, the struggles and his farm, you know, one of the and, you know, as he's been away from his what he helped to turn his family farms around and between he and his brother where what they're doing, you know, and how hard it is to teach natural farming to someone else that's not ready for it and to try to force natural farming on someone who's not ready for it. It doesn't work. It doesn't happen. Only those that are ready are able to thrive in this.
41:12 And if you're doing it and other people, their hearts, their minds, their soul, they don't get it deep in their spirit, you will never force someone else to do natural farming. It has to come from such a deep space, a deep understanding, a deep surrender, a deep trust. And if they don't get it, if they're looking at it from a lens of money, they're looking at it from a lens of ease, if they're looking at it from a lens of this, the only, and I'm not saying the only you have to grok it in its fullness. You have to understand how this is for the seven generations
41:51 of us, not just us, our grandchildren, our grandchildren, our grandchildren, all the way down to seven generations. You have to understand how this is good for the earth. You have to understand that, yeah, it can save you money. You have to understand that, yeah, it can save you time. You have to understand that it's work. It's work. You can't just go to the store and buy these things yet today. You probably have to make the solutions yourself and you have to get training to know how to do them correctly. And there's an investment
42:25 into getting into natural farming, but there's also a heart space. And if you don't have both, you can't force that on someone else and expect anything other than what they're going to do. Everyone has their own free will and natural farming is not about forcing things. it's about bringing the right people around at the right time and um it's just amazing to see you know and as his brother's been doing more of the farming it's he has strayed away and the plants and everything are not doing as well as they could and i'm not saying that um there's anything wrong
43:04 there it's just it could they could reach a higher potential and it's amazing to see chris coming back and realizing that he needs to put the time in to be there. And it's such a burden to be one of these carriers of this torch, because it's like, you think you train people and you can step away. And then you come back and it's like, they didn't even take care of the field. They didn't even apply the solutions. They didn't even do these things. And nothing against anyone who doesn't get it. It's just one day, hopefully you'll get it. And if you don't,
43:37 you'll die and you'll turn into the microbes and hopefully then you'll get it because you'll be part of it. You'll understand how these ancestors are in the ground, in the soil, and that you are part of the earth. But in your human form, you got this ego, got this arrogance, got this thing, ah, and disrespecting all of our land without even realizing it. But one day you will know. so yeah so we'll see we'll see where that goes we'll see where these fruits ripen we'll see i think it is good not only for chris and i i think it is good for the general larger thing as soon as
44:17 i was over there he featured me on his um his instagram live i didn't expect that um and then from that i got a call from a few other people that were like oh i'm glad to see this is happening because when your folks that are involved at the upper level don't have cohesion, how can you expect there to be any cohesion in the communities we're fostering? And so I truly feel like, you know, you can ask Chris for his perspective, but from my perspective, I feel like Ho'oponopono is complete for me. And it's never, you know, it can't be complete for just one person,
44:56 it has to be complete for everybody. So I don't know. Maybe I'm a little bit premature on saying that, but I am willing to do my part. I'm willing to show up. I'm willing to walk. Not know where my, take a step without knowing where my foot's going to land and just go for it. And just walk. God is amazing. God does things that you don't even know. You can't even see. And it's just like, and I'm willing to change. I'm willing to learn. I'm trying to listen to the right people. I am trying to really embody what I teach.
45:38 If you've been here, you know what I'm talking about. And so it is cool. And so I'm glad many people are learning about this. Many people are getting orange hats, making them filthy. and that people are getting into animal ag. Goats and sheep are also amazing animals, totally true. I find them to be kind of dumb and that type of management, I'm not ready for that here. Cows, I love to eat. Chickens, I love to eat. And so sheep, I'm okay on. Goats, I'm okay on. But all this, yeah, and I think it's good for the community. I think it's good for everybody.
46:19 I think it's kind of fun. I'm really looking forward to 2024, the year of the dragon. It's going to be rough for a lot of folks, but if you just realize that the dragon is mostly in your mind, it's not a real creature, but it can be very alluring, very powerful because our minds are just amazing things. But getting rooted deep, understanding that we are all in this together, I really, you know, of course, if you're watching this, love you, brother. I mean, I mean that from the bottom of my heart. And, you know, if you're not watching this,
46:58 I mean it anyway. And yeah. So yeah. Hey, goof, man. What's up, brethren? What's up? uh we got hawkeye speaks jojo in the house what's up um yeah i know a lot of people have been praying for this it's good um and it's dr park dr park's innocence he called me he's like i want to go up and visit and i was like i can drive you i you know stop anything when your elders call you it's like get you know clear the slate whatever else i had going and it and i hope it added to the class You know, it compressed our last day where usually when I do a field trip, we do a half
47:41 day field trip or just go across the street and learn from moose, but moose moved away. What the hell? Anyway, maybe it's for the better good. But then, you know, eat up a whole day of natural farming because driving for four hours out, you know, two hours out, two hours back, plus lunch out there, all that eat up a whole day versus eating up a half day of a field trip, which is enriching a whole day is kind Well, we got a lot out of it, and then I had to compress the last day of application and finishing up all our pour-offs, and we were a day late on some things, but we were perfect
48:13 on with our IMO. We got one of the best IMO collections this class. I say that every class because I want everyone to feel good, but literally it was really, really good. Have I gotten better? Maybe. Have I gotten worse? I don't know, but here I'm going to try and whip this sideways and play this for you. You can see our IMO collection. This is the great reveal. Are you ready? Are you ready? Are you ready? Oh, look at that. Nice white mycelia that is partners. That's bacillus subtilis and those things that are partners with the soil microbes that are in
48:51 there. But look at that. We had to put a pen to keep the lid up so it would keep that one third airspace, but look at that. Beautiful collection, beautiful people tuned in, beautiful day. All of us here at the class, that's Matt looking out. Look at that gorgeous. Oh, I'm dropping it down. Look at that gorgeous day. But we had our sugar ready right next to it, because as soon as we open it, we got to get it into the sugar, right? You can't wait. And I wish I had filmed it because, you know, as soon as you open it, it's like nice and white,
49:20 everything's going good, but we blew out their atmosphere. All their gases are gone. That's why Don't open it early until it's ready. The bottom was warm to the touch. It was not the prior day. Look how beautiful that collection. We got our sugar ready right there to mix in and to preserve. Go from seed IMO collection to seed IMO preservation. Everyone was stoked and beautiful day in Hawaii. So if you were freezing that week, think of where you could have been here making beautiful IMOs. Anyway, I'm just trying to make people jealous and come to the class because you really need
49:53 it, even though you may think you don't. And if you think you can't afford it, just start off GoFundMe, ask for scholarships, get into it, make it happen. Trust me. If you are meant to be here, you will get here and, you know, make it a goal, be it, do it. Some folks, you know, got, you know, reached out and asked, Hey, you know, can you help out? It's like, yeah. And I price it high because I want you to value it. But, but I'm a flexible person and I'm not saying everyone like ask me for a discount and like lowball me don't please pay what you can
50:26 even pay more tip leave leave a two thousand dollar tip when you leave more than your tuition leave you know like that it's that much value to you you'll find that um you know because don't shortchange me i'll give you everything when you come here everything and so you know don't try and like uh you know you get what you pay for so don't don't try and you know but if you if you if you feel like, you know, you need to be here, make it happen. Make it happen. Trust me. And pray for it. Pray for it. Don't, you know, don't ego make it happen and force it. But, but a lot, you know,
51:00 pray, make that intention and the universe will align and watch. You'll be here. And also throughout the year, ask me and I'm happy to teach folks. You want to come stay at the Airbnb, all that. But we got amazing collection. And that's just the power of that, that we had checked it the day prior when we went on that field trip, I had Jenny come over and I'm like, Jenny, while everyone else is getting ready, come, come. And she put her fingers underneath, checked it. Box was cold to the touch. Came the next day, checked it, warmed to the touch. Ooh, time to collect. I'm not saying a box
51:31 that's thick will do that, but a box that's thin, like those woven boxes that I use, ooh, you can feel through them. You can see. It's as if you can see x-ray vision. It's not. You're tuning into the microbes, you're feeling the warmth of life and that you're a hundred degrees. If you feel warmth, that means it's over a hundred degrees, which means there's plenty of microbial activity, perfect time to harvest. Got it. Got it. Got it. Um, so much to learn on that. So, and a lot of people that, that, um, students that arrived here had never done that successfully. So
52:03 we go through everything successfully. And I'll show you some of my failures too, because it's a learning experience. And you know, why am I disregarding this? Why am I including this? it's because of experience and that's what you get. So again, you know, here I am right after the class talking to you, really making it so you, um, you can make this strong intention. You want to be here, do it. Also contact other people, join the peer KNF foundation, find out where others around you that have been trained are, and then go train with them. I'm not the only teacher out here.
52:40 I may be one of the most senior, most experienced teachers, but there are my students that have come and take my teacher training that I train them to teach people so that there's not as much on me because I'm not the only one. There are plenty of us out there. And so if you join the Peer Canna Foundation, you become a member. Part of our goal right now, it's not ready yet, but it will be out, is linking you up with other people that are trained so you can find people right in your area that are into it.
53:12 And, um, you know, there's folks in Kenya that are trained. There are folks in, um, all over our, um, you know, the greater United States. Um, there's folks in Canada on both sides. There are folks in, I don't know. I wish I knew Australia. There are folks all over the world that have come here, gone out to the world and done it. There are folks growing all kinds of crops that are doing it. There are folks in livestock that are doing it, everything. So, um, and the IMO pile is a thing to experience. We did get to do the footspa, um, and, uh, get into
53:54 that. And yeah. Yeah. So what a week, what a week. I guess I did not get into the gym. I'm almost out of time here for today. But since it's quick, since it's easy, let's drop a little bit here. Always promise a recipe. You got to go through it. I should probably do the recipe first, but we'll go into pulling up the book here and um let's see we'll go over here like that pull up the book let's see can I make this well just scroll down so pulling up the book here so this is KNF microbes microbes um diverse native microbes trained in teamwork to teach
54:44 the soil how to, let me expand this, come into balance and use natural resources around them to support vibrant health. I guess I got to slide it over for you. Healthy living soil microbes form the foundation of Korean natural farming. Now this is talking about Master Cho's edition where we make a pile, we heat it up. It's very advanced. If you look at my recipe down here for Master Cho's recipe, it's actually, it's down here, there's collecting the seed IMO, there's preserving the seed IMO, there is the microbes propagating them, then there's what I call, rename this foundation IMO,
55:25 I think it's better than activated IMO, but you know going through those four steps, this here right here it says difficulty expert, very challenging, very hard, so this is the best way to do it that I found. It's not always approachable. So, Young Song, and I talked about the history of how this got here, he got into the disgustingly cheap microbes. He calls it JMS, Jadam Microbe Solution. Ray named it that. So, you know, just to make it Jadam Microbe and just patent, you know, trademark everything they were doing. But this recipe here
56:04 is one of the easiest ways to get into microbes. It takes about 24 to 72 hours, maybe a little bit longer if it's really chilly, but you should probably do it when it's not that chilly and or put a bucket heater in there to keep the water warmer. But it's super simple. You need five gallons of water, a half cup of rich indigenous soil, a half cup of, or actually I read, I read this to make it about one cup. I should show you my most recent addition. And five tablespoons of salt. And I renamed this, redid this with grams in my new addition because it's a little bit
56:43 clearer because tablespoons aren't always correct. If you have really fine ground salt, it's going to be a different volume than coarse salt. So there's, there are subtleties to this, but a little bit of salt is going to be better than no salt and too much salt is going to be worse than a little bit of salt. So a little bit of salt goes a long way. Enough starch to feed your rich indigenous soil. This is like when you dig under where a bunch of leaf litter is. You find that balled up soil. It looks like stones and pebbles. That's what you're after.
57:11 And five gallons of water. The less chlorine and less chemicals that are in there, the better. But do use what you have for all these things. All those things get combined. I throw it all in a blender, combine it all. Maybe not the microbes because I don't want to put dirt in my blender, but blend the heck out of these. Young Song would tell you to put these in socks or bags and dangle them. When you do that, you do get benefit. I'm going to switch over here a little bit and go to this right here. Let's see here. Is that going to work for me? Yeah, right here.
57:49 So this would be like Yong Song. This is a bucket of it and the bag of the microbes, bag of the potatoes dangling in there, making your disgust. Oh, am I not on the right side? Okay, there, there. So this is it. Sorry. This is it here of the stick holding this bag, dangling the stuff in. Do you see all these bubbles forming? and this is like on the edge where these bubbles are sort of away from the edge, but this is at peak growth. You want to use it right now, right at this point, and all these bubbles form. This is how you make disgustingly cheap microbes. They are significantly different
58:24 than Master Cho's IMO-4 Building Soil Foundation, but this is a quick, simple, easy way to do it. It's not a three-week, four-week process. It is like 24 hours, 48 hours, 72 hours. We're in business. We have microbes. Are they as good? No. Are they better than nothing? Yes. Oh, who did that? How did you do that to me? Oh, someone thumbs up. I don't know how that happened. Oh, maybe it's because I was thumbs up. Is the camera watching me? That is so creepy. Okay. Yeah. I guess when I thumbs up, it thumbs up. Creepy AI is watching me.
59:00 creepy yeah Apple I just upgraded the new operating system it's not watching me with AI great cool so these this here this is what it would look like in real life what I am doing is demonstrating this let's see in this here so this is what I'm talking about about combining these in, you start at zero time. Then your worker microbes, which are this blue line, are going to take off faster. As there's food, as there's temperature for them, they're going to go faster. Then your fertilizer microbes, which are more like your anaerobic ones, are going to come
59:44 in later. And at a certain point, they'll overtake your good worker microbes, which are more like your lactobacilluses and whatever soil microbes that made it in the water to eat that starch and that salt to really expand. And then later, these ones will start to eat your worker microbes, which is why their population then becomes bigger. So if you wait longer than 48 hours, 72 hours, something like that, depends on your temperature, you will have fertilizer microbes and or dead, more like putrefaction type of microbes, fertilizer microbes. But if you get
1:00:17 it early, you will have soil worker microbes, mostly probably lactobacillus, but a few others in there as well. And they will take off quickly and you will have a sweet smell in the very beginning, like no smell, then a sweet smell and maybe like a little sour smell. Once it turns to a stinky smell, it's now zombies, death, and worker microbes. So if it smells sweet and or sour, you are in the harvest window and go for it. Dump this out. I dilute it one to 10 at least with water, use it immediately. What I'm also talking about is this time graph. My new addition
1:00:55 is a little bit clearer, is that in the beginning there's no bubbles, but then the bubbles will start to, it'll start to form bubbles, small rings, then rings at peak, and notice how they're away from the edge. That was kind of happening in my bucket photo right here. I can't do that right now anyway um and then eventually once the zombie microbes take over the rings will collapse because the air the water is no longer circulating um and they will collapse and the rings will touch the edge and then you'll just get all this chaos above as you get into the zombie putrefaction
1:01:30 more fertilizer microbes but if you want them do it while the work while it's still circulating when there's still oxygen in there and the bubble rings are doing this so this is one of the jadam recipes. It is a substitute for Master Cho's microbes. Anywhere I talk about microbes, because I primarily talk about Master Cho's recipes because they're the best, but not always the most affordable or the most approachable or the easiest, this is a cheap, quick, disgustingly cheap way to get into it, and it's a terribly low-cost
1:02:02 solution. And I say those things because Young Song pissed me off one time, and it's like, it truly like he even pisses off master chill because he's like, he's like, this is better. It's like, no, it's a terribly low cost solution is disgustingly cheap. It's not better in terms of what you're doing. You're better off to go the longer way. It's just like saying like, my moped is better than your, um, than your Tesla or something. And it's like, it all depends on how you slice it, what you're trying to achieve. The Tesla is going to out
1:02:31 accelerate the mic the the moped like and just leave it in the dust and when it rains you're going to get you know the tesla you're going to be nice in versus the the moped you're going to get soaking wet and all these things like sure the moped may be good for certain situations and better in certain cases but sometimes the tesla is better you know like and so master chose like the tesla i'm not sure teslas are good i mean they're freezing and you know i'm not even saying that they're good but i'm but i'm just using that juxtaposition is more what i'm trying to do
1:03:00 So understanding that these are like terribly low cost, but it can be approachable. It can be easy. There's, there's ways in cases and the substitution is where this is your microbes. Like it's the same, right? Microbes. So anywhere you were going to use microbes to build soil foundation or apply it to your plants to mitigate disease and all those things, this is where it fits in, right? They're the same. This is a 50 gallon recipe because by making a five gallon bucket, I can dilute it one to 10 and literally make five gallons, 50 gallons, 50 gallons from this, right?
1:03:30 so a little bit goes a long way you have to apply a whole bunch of it um and there's a lot more to learn you you know if you take the class you'll learn a whole bunch more about this and all these things and so i was saying there he he loves jms there is a place for it there is a time for it there is a place you know start with jms if you're going to start somewhere start with jms start with kf food start with these things and there's other recipes that i will get into i really want to cover all of Jadam's stuff here as beginning 2024 and doing these things. So, and all of that.
1:04:06 So, yeah. So anyway, I hope this little bit of that bit was useful for you, making a liquid microbe solution, understanding a little bit more of the JMS. And I suggest you don't call it JMS because it's not like Young Song invented this. Call it disgustingly cheap microbes. Put it in its place. Reason for that also is to kind of discourage people from using it because you should encourage them to start with it, but really get on to the superb, supreme microbes. Healing better, which is Master Cho's understanding soil foundation, making liquid IMO
1:04:47 from that versus this kind of liquid IMO. There are so many subtleties and so many differences, and you will, not to say you will never achieve the same level of goodness, but if you use Master Cho's recipes and you do them properly and you spend the time, like I said, they will accelerate much faster than the JMS. JMS is good because if you're so damaged, you need some acceleration and it can be quicker and easier. But the ultimate thing I encourage you to do is start here and strive for Master Cho's recipes as you can afford it, as you can grow better crops, as you can be a
1:05:20 better, you know, farmer, everything, then get into Master Cho's things because, um, you know, um, I just, as my experience, JMS will only get you so far. Um, and it's great, you know, it's a good place to start. Don't get me wrong, but it will only get you so far. And it's not one of the things, you know, um, so anyway, a lot on that, um, you know, and folks love it. I, by no means, am I trying to demean or anything. I go love it, um, do it, but realize that there are more, there are better, and there are ways to strive and go for.
1:05:55 So, um, so that, that, that, that, that, um, let's see. Well, if I thumbs up, thumbs up again. That's so creepy. What if I do a heart? Oh, that is so creepy. the ai is watching me through this little chip and it's video feeding who else knows what who what else are they watching but anyway i got since i upgraded the operating system i got these other things i can do like this and like blur out the background i think did it blur out the background no it doesn't know how to do that anymore studio light oh interesting studio light
1:06:37 anyway i got some new features with the new operating system i can turn that off if i wanted too, but that means that they're always watching me. Check this. I can do balloons. I don't know how you would do this. Weird. What else do I got? Ooh, look at that. What the hell? Creepy. What is this one? Ooh, yeah, party time. I can make it rain too. Rain. Anyway, when you upgrade this, it means like I am, I'm clicking these buttons and it also means the operating system's watching me, right? And so super creepy because who knows what they're doing.
1:07:16 They're all up in my thing. I liked it when the computer was just like an offline device instead of spying on me and sending everything because who knows what I say. What I say today is legitimate, but one day it might be wrong thing. And so enjoy it now. Download it. Store this in your mind. um don't let them crack you um apple anyway um what was i saying about i'll answer one last question what was i saying about blending it a lot i say that you know he'll say mush the potatoes in the water from the blender blend them up make it a liquid just pour that water in with it
1:07:53 the bags all that you don't need that just blend it in you'll get it to go the bags are like this thing that makes it seem like it's sophisticated. It's not. Just blend the stuff, but throw it in there. You just need starch and salt in your water plus the microbes. And I don't throw the microbes in the blender because I'll just grind them up. They're just like balls of soil and they're just really easily, once you put it in the water, rub it between your hands, they'll go. But the potatoes that are cooked sometimes are hard to get so blended for the microbes. So just throw them in
1:08:23 a blender, turn it on, blend it a little bit, add a little bit of water to it, pour that back into your bucket that you're going to ferment in. Go for it. So with all that, why not end this with a bit of hearts? Maybe more than a bit. What if I keep clicking this? What happens? Doesn't seem to do a whole. I was hoping it would just flood it with hearts. It just kind of doesn't do that. Why, Apple? Why, your programmers? I just wanted lots of hearts. I want to express how much I love you. So I'm going to do it with an emoji because we're no longer connected in person. And I'm
1:09:00 going to put the Apple vision pro on and just disconnect myself, but still show that I love you through hearts. Anyway, I could rant on that all day. Wish you the best 2024. Thank you, Cecily. Thank you, Stone Mason for being part of this. And thanks everyone else for tuning in. I encourage you pure KNF.org, become a member, pure KNF foundation, doing their best sponsoring this, making it happen, can of support, hit old episodes. Thank you, goofman, for just being an old soul that knows how to be real. Appreciate all y'all. I'm going to go to the stream finish
1:09:36 scene over here and not do any Apple things, but I have control of this on multiple levels. And I'm just going to go cut to this. So thank you. Love you. Will it give me a heart this way? No, it doesn't recognize this as a heart. This is the Korean way to do a heart. But apparently this is like a well-known way to do this. It's not just me. It's like, uh, but I thought I was kind of inventive bringing that in, but I guess not. Uh, apparently it's like even the AI knows that's a heart now. So appreciate you. Love you. Catch you next week. Office hours. Peace.