Frozen FPJ, Chicken Feed Ratios, Toxic Tire Mulch
The episode opens with an I Ching reading on Waiting and Nourishment, then Thanksgiving and Black Friday chat with the audience. Drake announces the next Pure KNF Foundation monthly Zoom meeting on December 8, and promises to ship out a book order this week.
Questions cover frozen parsley for FPJ (extract it now while the cells are broken, or make salsa), freezing grow tips for plant juice (not recommended, it can kill microbes and endophytes), and adding beer or vodka to solutions without OHN (alcohol invites ciliates and isn't generally recommended; a little helps solubilize chlorophyll but not much more). A farmer with rubber tire mulch is told to add IMO and biochar to pull the toxins into balance rather than dump it.
The back half works through Master Cho's basic poultry training seminar: feeders sized to the age of the bird, training chicks to eat grass so it becomes a third of their diet, rice hulls and dirt mixed into feed for fiber and minerals, and a 24-hour fermentation of the mix in wheelbarrows before feeding once a day around 10am.
Dr. Park walks through the feed formula itself, about 30kg rice bran, 1 liter seawater, 200ml calcium phosphate, 150cc Animal Mineral D, 200ml plant juice, toasted oyster shell for calcium, and toasted granite that works as grit in the crop since chickens have no teeth or stomach acid. Drake also covers the roughly 10-to-12 hens per rooster ratio that keeps a pen calm.
Questions answered
- 7:15 My parsley froze in 20°F weather — can I still make FPJ with it? — Yes, do it right away while the cells are broken, then put it in sugar to osmotically extract; a salsa works too.
- 21:22 Why not use beer or vodka in solutions when OHN isn't available? — Alcohol invites ciliates, which turn destructive in high numbers; the alcohol in KNF medicine mainly carries it through the cell wall and solubilizes chlorophyll.
- 25:20 Can I freeze grow tips to save up material before making plant juice? — Not recommended, freezing may kill the microbes and endophytes in the tissue; better to switch to an abundant material like banana or honohono grass.
- 28:30 My mulch is shredded rubber tires and full of toxins — trash it or keep using it? — Keep it, but throw IMO and biochar on it; the microbes and char pull the toxins into balance and turn them into nutrients.
- 33:27 Why does Master Cho use different feeders for baby versus medium chickens? — It's chicken psychology, you size the feeder to the bird, like giving a kid a small spoon instead of an adult one.
- 37:19 Why won't chickens eat grass mixed into their feed? — You have to train them to eat it when they're young; done right, grass can make up a third of their diet.
- 43:58 Why is dirt mixed into the chicken feed? — It gives them earth minerals they need to grind and digest food; it's just not legal to add dirt to feed in the US.
- 55:35 What time of day should you feed chickens? — Feed around 10am so they walk around grinding it in their crop all day; feed at night and it just rots in their belly.
- 56:11 Do you put IMO on the chicken pen floor too? — Yes, a light sprinkling over the whole floor, but it's a one-time setup, not something redone every feeding.
- 57:27 Why are there way more hens than roosters in the pen? — About 10 to 12 hens per rooster; the roosters guard the clutch and let the hens eat first, and that ratio keeps everyone calm.
- 59:30 Do you give the birds sand or pebbles to help digestion? — Yes, there's a separate chicken feed mix with dirt and grit in it for that.
- 1:02:30 What's Dr. Park's basic feed formula for the chickens? — Roughly 30kg rice bran, 1 liter seawater, 200ml calcium phosphate, 150cc Animal Mineral D, 200ml plant juice, toasted oyster shell, and IMO 4.
- 1:06:22 What's the toasted granite in the feed mix for? — Chickens have no teeth or stomach acid, so the granite grit works as the grinder inside their crop.
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In this episode
- 0:00 Intro, Thanksgiving and Black Friday talk
- 3:14 I Ching reading: Waiting and Nourishment
- 6:29 Chat check-in and member shoutouts
- 7:15 Frozen parsley and making FPJ
- 10:19 Drake's background and KNF history
- 10:59 PureKNF.org and monthly member meeting
- 14:45 Finding the Type 3 fruiting solution seminar
- 21:22 Alcohol, ciliates, and chlorophyll solubility
- 25:20 Freezing plant material for plant juice
- 28:30 Toxic rubber tire mulch and biochar
- 31:16 Poultry seminar: feeder design by age
- 37:19 Training chickens to eat grass
- 39:19 Rice hulls as chicken feed
- 43:58 Feeding dirt and soil to chickens
- 48:44 24-hour feed fermentation in wheelbarrows
- 55:35 Best time of day to feed chickens
- 57:27 Rooster to hen ratio and pen layout
- 1:02:30 Dr. Park's basic chicken feed formula
- 1:06:22 Toasted granite as digestive grit
- 1:08:49 Wrap-up and sign-off
Transcript
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1:00 Hey, good morning. Welcome to the Pure KNF Korean Natural Farming Office Hours for December 1st. Oh my gosh, 2024, December 1st. It's already December. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. Late. Happy Black Friday. Hope you got some deals. Happy Cyber Monday. You know, whatever. I was
1:46 telling my dad, I was like, it's pretty funny that we spend a whole day being thankful for what we have and thankful. And then the next day we go into mass consumerism. I've never seen more traffic in Hilo. Of course, you know, just people just piling into the mall, getting those deals, pushing each other out of the way. Um, you know, what a, what a, uh, what a sign of the times, what a sign of a healthy community is, uh, everyone's so strapped to get the deals for the thing to make the stuff. But hope you got deals. Hope you got deals. Well, at least I hope
2:32 you had a good Thanksgiving. You know, that's more important, actually. A happy Thanksgiving is more important than getting deals on Black Friday, even though we all know how important those deals are. Yeah, everyone's like, Black Friday, everyone's competing for your money. and then Amazon's like Black Friday all week yo we don't we don't really care about a day we're just gonna take your money all week we will mark things up or down depending on how it suits our fancy and you will buy buy buy because we're gonna inflate the currency if you don't well we're gonna
3:08 inflate the currency anyway but so if you want to get your most bang for your buck you better you better tune in better get those deals while they're hot before we take away all your purchasing power all that purchasing power vanish why because we're going to inflate the currency cool well anyway before we get to that uh let's start with a bit of higher wisdom let's uh you know now we've gone through that bit of it um and today today today today today is waiting or nourishment. To wait with the proper attitude invites the assistance
3:48 of the higher power. There is a situation at hand which cannot be corrected by force or external effort. The creative will provide the solution to one who waits with a correct attitude. This is a time for patience and careful attention to inner truth. Do not give in to doubt and agitation now. You are not meant to wait in a state of desperate longing, but in one of patient inner strength. Without certainty in the power of truth,
4:34 Success is impossible. Attempts to force a change rather than allowing it to mature naturally will only cause misfortune. You would be wise to strengthen and reaffirm your reliance on the creative. When you indulge in fear and doubt, you flood the arena where the higher power is attempting to work. Your principal responsibility in life is to keep this arena, your own consciousness, free of negative influences. By accepting things as they are and not making fruitless comparisons to the situations of others,
5:26 or some imagined ideal, one engages in the power of the creative. If one remains balanced, modest, and independent, good fortune will come to hand. Nourishment. I think it's always funny how I always kind of rant at the beginning and the I Ching is just like, yeah, yeah, yeah. nice rant bro wow it's uh you can tell this sun is uh you know getting towards its uh apogee i don't know whatever that side of the thing because look at that sunlight dancing on the banana trees back there on the keyboard i don't know if you can really see it but it's
6:14 dancing around behind me that only happens in winter summertime it does not reflect in here like that through the banana tree so uh yeah what's up we got uh got some good folks what's up we got mark in the house yep happy sunday yes i hope we do find everyone well and thankful still i don't know maybe you didn't make the deals on that friday maybe you missed out you got fomo it's counting down you gotta get it now classic weakness of marketing techniques make it a great day everyone yes thanks all one in the same if we wait maybe there will be better
6:55 deals i don't know um goofman yo yo what's up hope you're enjoying the shirt brethren yeah that was uh yeah i'm glad i got your email back i didn't reply because i was like that you know but i appreciate it you know you know we know um 20 degrees fahrenheit oh my gosh is it winter already no it's just fall uh parse totally freeze the parsley and come free can i still make fpj with those plants yes i would do it right now while the cells are broken and then put them into the um sugar and osmotically extract it out freezing right now you can make those things either that
7:37 or make a salsa one of the two um and what's up thomas yo good to see you yo busby the grandest day yeah it's sunday the grandest day chilly washington yep yep man i'm glad i'm here it is what 80 degrees i don't know 60 70 it's in the 70s i think it is a little chilly that's what i had to put on this overcoat slash flannel the hillbilly overcoat um participated in nothing and by nothing day black friday making bailey's irish cream for the holidays sweet yeah you know just uh have every you know make everything you need from home and we got Nigeria in the house
8:22 what's up Hut grateful yeah Western Australia so Cecily do you guys do Black Friday down there I don't know I don't know if you guys even do Thanksgiving I think it's like an American thing we uh celebrated thankfulness before we stole all the land you know whoops um hi from western australia yeah loving the t-shirt oh yeah cool cool cool great yeah put some stickers in there too some other things i don't know it's always it's always fun to have those master cho stickers if you buy a book oh shoot i gotta send a book someone bought a book
8:58 and i didn't even send it out yet i gotta man sometimes i'm bad about that but at least it's less than a week away because i always remember usually sundays i'm in the office for shiz before that I was out and about enjoying family and all kinds of good things plus it's the holy days they're coming in but I know you want your gifts so I'll get them out I'll get it in the mail to uh Monday Monday we'll go in the mail how did master cho recommend using beer and vodka if ohn is not available before diluting one to one thousand ratio
9:29 um i don't understand that question how did master cho recommend using beer and vodka if ohn is not available before diluting i don't know i'm not sure what you're saying there because he doesn't really recommend using beer or vodka young song cho recommends vodka and he says drink seven gallons of it daily, but no, most of his recommendations, you can just pass on. It's like, yeah, cool. I know a better, I know better than that. Um, so, um, so yeah. So anyway, we, we've been, um, we've been covering, uh, I was listening to YouTube tips and it's like,
10:19 introduce yourself every time. So I'm Drake and I've been doing natural farming for like 18 years, or 20 years, I don't know, a long time, so yeah, at least 18 years, and studied with Master Cho a whole ton, his son stayed here in this office one time for about a month, and helped him get introduced to the western world, and build up the Jadam thing, Madadge, whatever you want to call it, we do Madadge, we did it, we do young Master Cho, we do all those things, and more, so you got an hour, ask any questions, I probably should have introduced myself first before I started getting
10:53 into this, but whatever, bro, you already know who I am. I know who you are. We're all good. It's the natural farming family stream. Um, so let's see here. Uh, less, uh, also, uh, just, just, uh, let's see, put this by this like that and go over here, pure knf.org bringing you today's content and the members members in the chat. Thank you. Um, and we are going to have our monthly meeting coming up next Sunday. It'll be the 8th. So if you're not a member and you want to get in on the Zoom, talk story, talk to each other, find out who we are, what we're doing,
11:31 what we're about, our next monthly meeting. If you look under membership here, monthly meetings, I'm probably going to sign in. Probably going to sign in. Just sign in there. um and uh last month we had stacy before we had ocean grace farms before that we had logan and if we scroll through we had evan sharp suz yarrow no it's not that's all it's showing there's more than that though more than that um that we've had talk to us and all those all these wonderful folks but next month is just going to be um talk story and i promised cecily that we
12:16 would go over this uh this spreadsheet here this spreadsheet this one here the solutions and all this and the pricing and all this you could maybe screenshot this but we're going to go deep into what it would cost to do natural farming on a larger scale or any scale you let me know and I'll plug it into this here and we'll get the volumes and the conversions and all these things. And we'll go through that next Sunday for sure. That's one of the topics that I wanted to bring up and go through and maybe kick the meeting off with that. But you get way more if you are a member
12:55 of the Pure KNF Foundation. So join, join, join. And if you are already a member, you know who you are thank you making this happen um black friday is really friday the 13th there are only one or two each year my son pat was born on one of them the commercial annual event has spread to australia oh so it's there okay um he framed the sticker oh my gosh cool cool cool yeah you know i uh i still got these guys they're hanging out man i like it they just they chill next to my uh next to my master chow picture over there and then also i have this guy this is my little
13:41 maybe let's go like this let's get this like this so you can see this this is my little stfu doll this little guy i got in korea in itaewon itaewon no uh namdaimun namdaimun market pick this little guy up and there's like the the guy that's like and the guy that's like and the guy that's like this but the only guy I wanted was the stfu guy he's like stfu I don't know if you can see him the lighting's not that good here but he's he's he's just like stfu and I keep him next to me because I always remember to stfu but then it's kind of funny because I do this each week
14:18 and I talk a whole lot and there's nobody else in the room but me and you and you um but I just have my little stfu doll oh so anyway um well there's also flat eric behind me i don't know if you can see him he's kind of blurred out these days but it's cool he's chilling he's just sitting there meditating doing his thing it's always good to have a flat eric doll behind you um okay so um in making type 3 solution don't know what that is no i do know what it is it's better to call it the fruiting solution. Number 10 or 11 in the basic fruit crop series.
15:00 He mentions in the absence of OHN one can use those, but I couldn't hear him clearly from the translator. Oh yeah, smash that like button. Or, oh frick. sorry i forgot to mute you on the first one just hit me out of nowhere i didn't even feel it coming um okay uh type three solution man okay send the link to that send the link thank you thank you thanks pono oh we got good rocks in the house what's up good rocks yo good to see you man good rocks um uh huli kalima um yeah um okay yeah i just saw i just saw lono run by a couple
15:54 weeks ago maybe it was a week ago i saw lono transiting the big island circumnavigating circum i don't know yeah circumambulating the big island he's running by i saw the tent actually Antipua's truck and I was like, oh, Antipua. And then they ran, uh, they ran by, but they were going to go eat by the statue in Hilo and I was going to join them, but I was late to get here for a meeting. Oh, anyway, thanks. Thanks for the blessings needed it. Um, okay. So, uh, but I don't know, just send me a link to which video you're talking about. Maybe we could watch that together
16:29 just for a short, brief minute. Cause there's so many videos. Um, number 10 in the basic, Oh, basic fruit crop series. Okay. I can find that. I can find that. Let's go here. Let's go to, uh, see in the YouTube here. Let's go to my channel and a basic fruit crop series. It's kind of funny. I called it basic fruit crop cause it's actually advanced fruit crop, but then I got all pissed off at the CJNF guys cause they were just like total turds and I renamed everything basic cause I was like, it's all basic bro. Um, so let's go here. Whoa. Let's mute it.
17:04 and then let's put it in default view so we can see this, and he said it was in number 10 or 11. Oh my gosh, we got to watch this whole thing. 10 or 11, basic fruit crop. He's talking about type three. How the heck are we going to find this? 18 of 18. 18 of 18. This one, we can go to it. Alright, let's see. Should we watch it all? No, he's talking about this. What is Joe doing up there? Oh my gosh, Joe McGinn. What are you doing? He's fixing computers. Joe! Let's listen to him. Let's hear what he's saying. He wants the doc. Alright, let's skip into this thing. Can we get a minute?
17:52 What is it? Kim Chang up there? Rest in peace, Kim. Love you. So just a little heads up, this is like one of the juiciest episodes here. This fruit crop seminar was pretty darn good of teaching us about all these things, except for it's obviously in Korean. Korean natural farming after all. But this guy right here, this guy, what is he doing? He's gagging himself. This is Ray, and he was translating for us, I think. But I think it was also in Chinese, so...
18:58 So you can really become experts if you follow him and learn from the actual field and the plants to get the real plants. Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. He says, if you want to be an expert, you just learn from the plants, man. You know, if you can give me an actual timestamp and I can pull that up and we can listen to it and I can figure it out. Cause I don't know, I don't have it off hand, but we could also just quick here, quick. Let's see here, one sec. Let me go to this and then see here. If I have that there, let me see fruit crop.
19:46 I'm just gonna look at my notes real fast and see if I have that. So natural for notes, notebooks. Let's see, this was 2011 advanced notes, advanced swine, poultry, advanced notes. Maybe it's, you know, those are 2011 notes. Poultry, swine. Oh, here we go. Advanced nutrient, no, advanced nutrient cycle notes. Conference. Do I not have notes or not? I must. I must. They're not on this computer, though.
20:31 Those are 2011 notes. Man. How do I not have my notes on here? Man, that's like one of those things. I must have that, though. I wonder. I probably got it on a notebook somewhere. How do I not have... Oh, no. Nutrient cycle. No. See, I don't have these fruit crop notes in here. I must have them. But anyway, sorry, it's not there. Um, okay. Anyway, well, I've, man, if you can give me a timestamp, I can look at it and we can see, and I can figure it out. But do I have anything about beer, vodka? I, uh, I don't think you, uh, I, yeah, it's not, it's not like,
21:15 introducing alcohol is not a good idea typically. Okay. Yeah. Cool. Cool. Right on. I try and, But usually introducing alcohol causes more problems. Usually, just in general, introducing alcohol usually encourages ciliates to grow. And ciliates are really not good in, like you want them in small numbers, but when they get high population. So I can show you ciliates here. So ciliates are these things. And we'll look at wiki misinformation here. and see the ciliates are groups of alveloids characterized by the parent hair-like organelles
21:57 called cilia. So if you look on the outside here, you'll see all these tiny hairs and those are the cilia, those tiny little hairs. Let's make my mouse. There we go. So you can see my mouse. So these ciliates, yeah, they're a lot in late. They're a lot in water, almost anywhere in water. um but if you they they love alcohol and um when they show up they usually um start destroying things and um but but usually also things are because when things are turning to alcohol um they happen um let's see they're talking a lot about them maybe you see all these
22:43 little hairs on the outside i don't know if you can see that i'll zoom in see all those hairs on that. It's like these little things and they cruise around. They look like, like big footballs or blimps cruising around. Um, and, uh, but anyway, they, they cruise around in there and, um, usually it's a sign of like things going wrong because, um, alcohol usually results in bad behavior and fighting and destruction. Um, cause it's a toxin and it's, um, you know, killing your ability to think right. Um, so let's see conjugation stages of conjugation,
23:29 uh, D, but they, you know, they DNA rearrangements. Yeah, they can, they can do good things. Don't get me wrong. Like, like even bad or good, but good or sometimes bad. What does it say their function classification. Oh, here, pathogenicity. Okay, that sounds like the only member of the ciliate phylum known to be pathogenic to humans is Blanditum coli, which causes disease of Blanditum coli. It's not pathogenic to the domestic pig, the primary reservoir of this pathogen. Okay, well, anyway, if you are seeing, oh, I didn't mean to do that,
24:06 if you are seeing a whole bunch of ciliate, well, alcohol causes these guys to be like more, um, more at home. They're like, you know, the, um, hell's angels of, of, uh, of the microbe world and they can be good, but they can also be rowdy and they'll crack skulls. Um, so I recommend usually the, the reason, uh, you know, KNF medicine has alcohol is alcohol is what gets the medicine through the cell wall and beer is simulating fermentation and slight bits of alcohol are good because it solubilizes um chlorophylls it makes it water soluble the
24:46 chlorophyll so a little bit of it's good but just adding it without the other added benefits it's they're not really the best oh we got drake in the house yo what's up good name there brad um do dino flagellates the glowing ones i had sea monkey type things oh yeah yeah yeah the glowing ones okay so yeah okay anyway but yeah usually you don't use those things they're used to you know for very specific reasons of you know just just willy-nilly adding them it's not necessarily recommended but I want to find that timestamp we'll see we'll go
25:29 through it and then what is this here I hope it's okay to ask it's always okay to ask if there is a limited amount usable material available at a time can we freeze grow tips for plant juice to accumulate more mass before processing i probably wouldn't recommend that um like um yeah um i mean yeah freezing stuff and then trying to do i i'm not gonna i'm not going to say it's a good idea. I'm not going to recommend that. Um, you might be able to, you could see, um, but I don't think so. I would rather, you know, um, depends. I would,
26:11 I would just switch your material to something that's more abundant, like bananas, honohonogras. Um, you know, there's, there's so many abundant things around. Um, but I suppose you could freeze, but I think I, I'm not going to recommend it. I'm not going to, you know, if things freeze on accident, you can use them. But I would say, I would just say, no, I, you know, you could, you could try it. You could try it. I just, I don't, maybe, maybe, maybe. Um, yeah. And then, and then goof man saying the freezing would kill off the microbes. Would it not? I don't know.
26:49 And the other, you know, it might kill off the microbes. And the other thing you're, you're interested in plant juice, which is, um, this is from Steve in Australia, but is endophytes, you know, um, so this is another thing that you're after in the plant juice. It's not just the plants, uh, solution, but you're actually here. We'll go to misinformation PDA again. And, um, endophytes are an endosymbiotic, often a bacterium or fungus that lives within a plant, lives within a plant for at least part of its life cycle without causing apparent disease.
27:29 So part of the amazingness of the plant juice and the can of food is that you're also getting endophytes. And I believe if you phrase the material, you might be killing off these endophytes. However, I mean, things survive through winter in America, right? in most places outside the tropics in the world, right? They freeze. And obviously, these things come back, and obviously, they're there. But maybe they go into the seeds where they're more protected, or there's some mechanism. So, when I hear freezing, I think, ah, I'm not sure. But you're after a lot of endophytes as well, you know?
28:13 And so, here, this last paragraph, this is where we're at. Here, it says, Although endophytic bacteria and fungi are frequently studied, endophytic archaea are increasingly being considered for the role in plant growth promotion as part of a core microbiome of a plant. So you're also after the endophytes. And this is where, you know, when you start freezing it, if you're just thinking about, you know, like it as chemistry, like NPK or something, you might get that. But when you start thinking of it biologically, you might be causing other problems.
28:47 um and so i you know i'm not sure i'm not sure um yeah so and you know um tires have a lot of toxic stuff uh the place i am living has shredded rubber tires as mulch should i carry it to the dump or try to work with it um i would just keep uh i would just throw imos on it and biochar and let let it soak up the toxins. And then, you know, I mean, I wouldn't intentionally add more rubber mulch and rainbow possum has a thing with a lot of toxic stuff in there, but toxins are only toxins when they're out of balance. And so the way to balance it is biochar and microorganisms,
29:32 and they will go in there and they will move the toxins into the char, clean up the area, and then you could grow with it. So, um, you know, a toxin is only a toxin when it's not a nutrient and it's only becomes a toxin when it's out of balance. And when it's in the right balance, it becomes a nutrient, right? So there's lots of nutrients in tires as well. Um, you know, but balancing that out, right. So, um, what I, you know, I wouldn't add more rubber shredded rubber tires as mulch, but if you got it, it'll retain moisture. It'll do good things for the
30:06 soil. I mean, you know, uh, but you just got to cut down on the toxic load by putting enough biochar in there. So that's carbon, you know, and, and my AMOs. So, uh, I'd go with that. Um, and then Thomas is saying freezing can burst the cells of the plant and also the biology on the plant. Yeah. Um, when you fill a water bottle with water and freeze it, how it ends up bulging and sometimes splitting and popping the bottle. Yeah. So, um, and, and some of the, the growth hormones will handle that. Um, and compound properties will survive. I'm just not sure on
30:40 the whole, um, you know, the whole thing. Like, um, that's what I'm saying. It's probably best not to freeze the stuff, but you could, I mean, the best time to gather it's like spring when things are growing and not freezing. I, you know, I don't know. Your mileage may vary. Your mileage may vary. I'll just be like a car salesman. It's good. It's good for you. okay so um so with that any more questions throw them at me uh i'm gonna jump into the um the thing that we've been covering which this this um i started doing the animals right so we
31:16 had a contest between poopology and the animals and um the animals won out over poopology so after we finished the medag so if you are interested in the medag go hit knfsupport.com pureknf.org. Either way, they'll get you there. Check out the archives and, um, you will see, um, office hour and all that goodness. So I was, let's see, I was on one of these videos and I know I didn't close it because I was like, next time I got to pick up at this same spot here. Um, Let's close that. Oh, here we go. We're at it. Okay, so let me switch this over here.
31:58 So we were on video 3 of 10 of the poultry training. This was 3 of 10 here. And I was at 3 hours and 7 minutes, and I was going to talk about the feeder. So let's get there, and let's see here. So let's unmute this and see what we have to say. Okay, so we'll go right here. So, oh, we took a nice photo. So this thing behind me is on lift. They put the stuff, they lift them up and go up to the top into this feed mixer. Mix all the feed around.
32:43 And then the thing comes over here, has one switch. If you pull this, feed drops off the bottom, mixed into probably these wheel barrels right here. It's right here. Feed mixer, elevator lift, feel clever. One. Yeah, there you go. Three, and more feed box at the container. This one, this one. You get one, this one. This one, this one. This one, this one. So we were just talking about the feed box again. And last week we covered the design of all these things and how they were designed and the plans and all that.
33:19 So we went over how to build all the material for the chickens, the different dimensions, the different things. Master Cho just again talking about it. You got the baby chickens on this side. And then when you flip it around and then the medium chickens can eat on this side. So it's a really cool design. You don't have to build a couple feeders. You just have one that has this angle. And then he's talking about that. And we covered this pretty well here, I think, last time and these different feeders and the reason for it.
33:45 Because, again, the whole thing with the animals is it's about their psychology, right? It's not about your psychology. It's about theirs and making it easy for them, right? So it's just like, you know, a kid. You don't give them a spoon that's like adult-sized. You give them a baby-sized spoon, right? And so same on this. You know, you don't just feed them with a huge feeder when they're small. You feed them with a feeder that's their size.
34:09 So you're really caring about the animals. You're really caring about like what they, you know, thinking about them, not you. And so having the things to match up to their side, you're going to have that much more peace of mind, happier chickens. And again, I was saying, how do you know your chickens are better? They're happier. They don't want to leave the place. They feel comfortable. They stay there. They want to be there. And I discussed all the other, you know, chicken homes and other things that people think that chickens want and they don't.
34:38 this is what chickens want. Trust me. Um, well, don't trust me. Trust master Cho. He's right there telling you. And I've never seen someone more advanced in understanding the psychology of the chickens and all this. There's the medium feeder here, you know, after the small babies, and we discussed how to scale that up. So if you missed it, go back. Um, you know, it was that, you know, episode prior, previous date, look at it up and see, um, you know, and, and this, workshop, you see how he's spinning it around and then he'll spin it the other way.
35:12 It's like, this was so thorough understanding what they're talking about, what they're going into. So we did cover, you know, majority of the design. I don't know, you know, you can watch this whole thing and see what he's talking about. You know, if you really want to get into chickens, I would definitely watch this whole thing. You know, you don't have to go through the Korean and the Chinese bits of it and the English, you know, but if you speak Chinese or Korean, this is for you because it's translated into all these languages. I just kept the iPad rolling.
35:41 That was my whole goal. You know, this, this day was four hours and five minutes of rolling and that way you could be there as if you were there. Right. So that's, um, that's, uh, that's nice. So let's see here. We're going to, I think this one's going to end here. Uh, we're just talking story. I don't know. I'm just going to skip over this because I'd rather show instead of talk. And, uh, you know, you can take your own time, watch this at two times, see it, you know, but, uh, to me it was just, you know, important to go through, capture the
36:14 whole moment so that you can see it. So here again, we're, this is day four getting in here. And this was, we talked, we opened up on this one the other day, but this is the IMO mixing. He'll run his, his, uh, his tractor back and forth to mix all this IMO with a huge tiller, but that's what these are um nice korean dog there being pet by my my chinese friend she's actually i think she's actually taiwanese but still um and so here we're getting into the feed so this was um this was making the feed um starting to go through and um each one of these
36:51 um each of these chicken houses over here was eating a whole wheelbarrow of feed a day and this was all the cut grass I believe that he's loading from one bag into another. I'm not sure why he's transferring this to be honest. I probably could watch this and see but you know having fresh cut grass it number one it lowers your cost right. Grass if you can just cut fresh grass you can save a heck of a lot of money because the chickens will eat it but usually chickens won't eat grass that you put in their feed like this unless you train them to eat grass
37:30 when they're young. And so there's a whole methodology of going through how to raise the chickens in a way so they actually prefer the grass over any other type of food. And that has to do with the bamboo in the very beginning. So hopefully we're going to go through this and get into the whole thing. I may have to skip around a bit to go through it because I'm not sure the exact order of things, but this is the grass that he's talking about, long grass like this, and I believe it's all cut up and chopped. So he's taking, you know, finding a chopping material,
38:03 but this is the grass that they are dividing into bags here. I think we'll see, we'll see exactly what they're doing here, but this is not bamboo. This is for the older chickens, and, but this is just wild, you know, what's growing around them grass that can make up almost a third of their diet. A third of their diet can be wild grass, believe it or not. And so, you know, that's a heck of a lot of cost savings if you're able to just feed grass to them. So you cichlid, cut it the right length, put it in there and or not even the right length. We feed our chickens all kinds
38:39 of wild grass. You see how he's breaking it apart though? He's trying to make it the right length. it does help if you cut it up so if you get some sort of automatic chopping machine you just run it through and just chop it versus if you're trying to chop it by hand it just becomes oh and then giant marshmallows it's always important to have giant marshmallows on your farm but here we're going into the the learning center these are buried totes of seawater look at all those bones what are we going to see he later put pigs back here if you look at the pig seminar
39:12 there are pigs back here. So this whole facility changed. There's the brand new chicken house, laying house. And what is this? We are getting, so we're going to make some feed, I reckon. And so what are we getting here? Is this silage? I think it's silage of some sort. Oh no, that's rice hulls. So he's going to feed him some rice hulls. Got a nice little spoon thing there, feeding rice hulls to him. Loading the bag up with rice hulls. so let's see if we can get closer on that this is it rice holes i'm pretty sure it's rice holes
39:49 either that or it's broken junk rice that they couldn't sell but i'm pretty sure it's rice holes pretty sure let's see if let's see how hard it is for him to lift up if he can lift that easy it's just yeah you see how easy he lifted that's rice holes for sure it's just the you know so this is again another cheap byproduct something that you can feed the chickens that will help bulk them up There is nutrition value in there. Rice holes have nutrition, you know, have nutrition in them. Um, a lot of bran fiber, you know, um, and, and if you make their intestines long via
40:24 the natural farming process, they'll be able to break this stuff down and you're going to ferment it before you feed it to them anyway. So all that adds to the digestibility index and you can feed them kind of waste products in a certain sense, um, and be able to feed them. So this is Mrs. Lee here. What a, she is just an animal. She, she works so hard. She's such, such an amazing lady. Um, so, and then what is this? This is, Oh, so here's this chipper shredder machine. So, um, you know, Koreans always smart guys, always about automating. You don't want to
40:58 feed them. Just look at that, that grinder chipper shredder. So this is how, you know, all this silage and stuff is made as they just feed in the grass, grass, whatever the heck, you know, feed material they're putting into there. They feed it in, goes through a chipper shredder, does all that. You know, you got to have these machines if you're going to be doing this at any size of scale. Disgusting long videos. Yeah. So, so going through Master Joe talking about something, I don't know, we're just going to skip over this. I'm sure it's important,
41:34 but we'll just go to the things I can show you because it's a heck of a lot more entertaining than just watching him talk. Um, although there is important information in all of this. And so we're going over the feed. So what is this? This, this here I reckon is the, is, um, what do you call bad rice? It's not bad. It's just cracked or something that no one would want to buy this. So it's like off grade rice that they get. Um, and I think that's what it is either that or it's IMOs? Maybe it's IMOs. Maybe it's IMOs. No, it's IMOs for sure. That's not the
42:07 off-grid race. Sorry, I'm getting you too excited about what it is. I think this is just IMOs. I'm pretty darn sure. So he's mixing the IMOs into the bags, getting all this prepped. We could have listened to it. I could just be making stuff up. You gotta watch it yourself, but we're just going through. Look at that. I think they're portioning everything up to start is what we're doing. If I'm, if I'm not mistaken and my memory serves me correct. So, oh, these bags are the rice. These bags are the rice, the off-grade rice. I remember,
42:44 because I remember, I'm like, they had off-grade rice. Okay. So these things, look at these. So they're portioning all these things up already into these bags. Okay. That's the important part. She's taking IMOs. These are IMOs for sure. She's putting those into the bags. They're portioning them all with that spoon. Nice Korean spoon there. And portioning it all. And then putting the bad rice in there with it. Portioning it all. Yep, yep. Portion all that. Portion all that. She gets all the right parts, everything together. So the IMOs and the bad rice.
43:21 you know you could use in america you could use corn those those um you know uh scratch grain corn you know good gmos make sure your chickens are super healthy you know with genetic modification and then she's putting in the oh no that's actually dirt this is dirt that is soil that she's adding in there very important uh has all the minerals and things that chickens need and that's the rice. So she's putting IMOs, soil, and rice, cracked rice in there. This is very important, adding that. She portions all that out. He goes, puts that over there by the mixer. They got the
43:58 next one to go. So, you know, feeding your chickens dirt, not legal in America, but very important to do. You wonder why we are malnourished here, because they don't let dirt go into the feed. dirt is very important um has all those minerals those earth minerals how the heck are they going to get those earth minerals if they ain't dirt so they put them on concrete floors and poop america's so wild um so yeah and they will uh i think converting poo to food through microbial fermentation is ultimate recycling yes the microbes do convert all those proteins and
44:41 everything. So here, if you wanted to read a recipe or hear a recipe, you could watch this. This is the basic poultry training, four out of 10. You could watch this and get the actual numbers. Probably should go through and do this again. Dr. Park there diligently writing everything down, but let's skip to some action here. Basically they portion all these things out. He's reading off the recipes. We could listen to him talk about it. He's talking about the grass there. they're talking about the grass right a third of their diet is grass so if you want to save money
45:12 start feeding up grass grass grows pretty much everywhere except for maybe where cecily is um so what are we gonna do we're gonna push that guy out of the way get out of the way bro come on move get out the way um now mr lee is gonna ride his elevator up oh yeah look at that that was the thing I was talking about this lifter. He just took a forklift lift and put it here on the ground. So he's going to ride this up. And Mr. Mr. Mr. Lee. No, what is his name? I forget his name, man. I, it's been so long and I've, you know, so much trauma. I forget all that.
45:49 But anyway, they're writing this lift up. This is, you know, when you have a farm and you're really serious about things and you wear slacks like this, you better have a lift and they're just going to ride this up. He is saving his back. He's not going to be, um, hurting himself. He's riding that lift up with all this food. Look at that. And he has a nice little OSHA approved safe space. And look at this thing. He's just going to dump this through the grate, right? Look at that. Dumping it through the grate. So, and then he got some liquids and stuff up here,
46:18 man. So this is his feed mixer. It's this little drum below. He's dropping it through the grate, making sure all that stuff goes through kicking it with his shoes adding that extra rubber to it very important part of their diet but that's why they portion everything out ahead of time because they just ride this thing up and this is enough to make a one wheelbarrow I think one wheelbarrow maybe it's two wheelbarrow I don't know we'll see look at that you got a stick to do it he ain't hurting his back he's just brooming that stuff through pouring liquid in uh-huh and we'll get
46:50 to what those liquids are, right? And he's pouring more, oh, that's seawater, I bet. He's washing it out with more seawater. But you can probably, you know, guess what liquids and things are in there. He's taking his seawater off and he's pouring, what is that? Oh, he just does that one straight over. Maybe that was the grass. Maybe that doesn't go through the grate very well. He learned. Smart guy, you know, Mr. Lee, smart guy. So he's pouring all that in down into that mixer there. and what's he going to do? He's going to turn it on, turn it on, turn it on. I'm moving around.
47:26 Oh yeah. Getting that good angle. And I believe it's already mixing. Oh, it's already mixing. Look at that. So he's already mixing the feed. Look at that. Let's hear it a little bit. so knowing mr lee he probably built this himself he is a he oh and so then it's filling up a wheelbarrow underneath look at that so it gets all mixed and then it goes into the wheelbarrow the wheelbarrow is where it ferments and they do a 24-hour fermentation she shuts the door The wheelbarrow is full. Looks like they're riding up with another load. And so this is,
48:11 this is going to be enough to feed one chicken house and then they're mixing up the next one. So I guess maybe this is two chicken houses out of one of these, but these guys got it all mixed in a portion, you know, portioned the right way going in, doing their thing, made it easy. So they save their backs, right? Right. Lift up, throw it into your mixer. You know, um, could you do a cement mixer type of thing? Probably, but look how easy that is right into their wheelbarrow. Now this feed will sit there and
48:44 ferment, right? So it has everything set to go. It looks like she's going to add a little bit more. Apparently one of those things makes two bags. Look at him up there supervising. You're doing great. Mrs. Lee. Um, mixing it in. She, she's the boss of the farm. He pretends like he is. it looks like that could be a little bit more optimized but he probably put those reinforcements oh so he's making the next batch mixing the next batch dropping it through listen to the sound again yeah so that the fermentation happens in those wheelbarrows you know is it
49:32 ideal uh well fermenting in plastic like that no but once you got all these things mixed it's going to ferment really well and he's just doing a 24-hour ferment for various reasons because if you ferment too long you know i'll show you a different method of this at um at pastor lee's farm but this is mr lee's farm he's doing large scale chickens like you know you see this chicken house how big it is and what he's doing he must have what a dozen of these things each with 120 birds. What is that? 120 times 120. What is that? 120 times 12. I should know this. It's 1,000.
50:10 It's 1,400 birds. 1,500 birds, basically. 1,500 birds, you know. So he's mixing these, and there's, you know, 12 of these pens over there, I think. I don't know. I'm just making that up, but there's a lot of them. So they're now moving the next things onto the lift. And so, you know, when you're doing that much, what is he has to make, uh, seven and seven batch of this. That's why you need a mixer, right? If you don't have a mixer, man, you're, you're, uh, going to break your back and look how nice he looks. Look at that posture. He's saying he's not bent over. He's riding a
50:43 thing up, right? Ride it up, drop it in, ride it back down. I bet you he welded all this himself too. He's a very ingenious man. You know, look how well supported that is everything. It's like reinforced. So when you get into it, your chicken house will probably look like that. And then you put it into these wheelbarrows, they'll be fermented. Let's see. I'm going to skip over a little bit because I think this is just pretty much the same thing. And we could go through what is in the actual feed mix, maybe. Could go back to Dr. Park talking about that just before
51:14 they rode up on there. But look, he's mixing it, all the grass, everything being mixed in. Nice way to do that. Look at that. Oh, did they forget the grass? They forgot the grass. They mixed it in later. They forgot the grass. That's okay. You can't remember everything every time, but, uh, that's why you mix it, you know, by hand later. Look at that. Bolo's on. Yeah. Bolo's on, but look, a third of their feed free grass, bro. Free grass. So here they are mixing all that in, getting all that, the liquid, everything mixed in, you know, one of the reasons to run a mixer
51:50 is to get the liquid nicely mixed in there. Dr. Park talking about it. You know, you could watch this to see really what they're doing. We can go back. We'll watch this and make a note. What is this, episode four here? Let's see. Four feed mix. Yeah, I'll just make a note there. Okay, so here we are. Are they going to feed it fresh this time? Are they going to? Okay. Maybe they're going to feed it fresh this time because they didn't do it before because we were there and making them. But usually they ferment this 24 hours and we'll see. I think maybe they might do it fresh this time.
52:28 I don't know. Either that or they're just bringing it. But each one of these wheelbarrows feeds 120 birds in there each day. So look at all the chickens. They're all stoked. They're all right by the door. And are they going to do it fresh? They're going to make me eat my words here. Usually they ferment this 24 hours though. We'll see it later. I think they might have done it fresh. That's just because we were there. I don't know. I know how it is doing a farm. Like when people visit, you're just like, oh, overwhelmed. Hey, thanks still, Mason. Yeah, buddy. Thanks, man. Appreciate it.
53:04 Thanksgiving to you too. So she'll go in and she'll just scatter some right away. That way they, you know, she doesn't step on them. But also notice she kind of drags her feet versus stepping real high. You don't want to step on your chicken. She throws some into the dishes and then she will come by and empty them all in. So this is the official natural farming Mrs. Lee way to feed your chickens is distract the heck out of them. And then you bring in the wheelbarrow. Oh, Oma. See, there's this thing about, you know, it's so easy, you know. So anyway, Oma is getting into it. Mikey in there.
53:39 Mikey, very, very important. Mr. Lee doing his thing. So he's going to go and put, what is that? I think it's a couple spoons. Look at that. So she just brings the wheelbill right into the chicken pen. Make it easy. Save your back, right? It's about being smart. And she's going to be like, add one of these. What is that, a dustpan? Looks like one heaping dustpan per. We'll see. I think he's talking about their waterer here, filling that up. But he's putting one heaping dustpan. No, two heaping. Oh, one heaping dustpan per thing. Let's see.
54:20 And each chicken, each kind of group of chickens has their thing here. So maybe he's putting one heaping dustpan per. Let's see. Got to get this right. You know, instead of just saying things, we'll watch it. We'll see. Although here I am filming Master Cho versus filming them. Go figure. Oh, no. But he's putting a second dustpan in. Oh, I think, you know, you're basically just going to fill it full to the brim. is, is, you know, really what it comes down to. Um, yeah. And the, the fermentation does add a
54:54 lot of nutritional value to the feet. That's why you would ferment it for longer than they did feeding it fresh. You're not going to get nearly as much, um, things, um, um, extra biomass, the bacteria, the yeast. Yes. You're also going to get hormones and enzymes and all kinds of things and break down and then the micro bodies themselves are full of nutrition so um yeah so they so notice they put you know a few dust pans in each one but they basically put one wheelbarrow per chicken pen right so they filled up the chicken feeders with those a little bit to distract them
55:30 and then filled it up and that's a daily feeding for them they feed once a day um usually you feed them at about 10 o'clock in the morning is ideal for chickens if you feed them in the late evening then they eat it and they go to sleep and it rots in their belly versus you feed them in the morning then they walk around all day with their crop digesting that because they don't have teeth unless you live on the moon so you want you want to feed the chickens in the morning so they can grind it up all day feed them in the evening
56:00 it's like it's not nearly as good are they doing IMO on the floor too absolutely but not every time you know the IMOs are already there it's a stable thing once you set it up it's stable if you watch the video before you will see them putting IMO into the little chicken pen brooder boxes things that we made for them you will see that they put IMOs down and it's just a light sprinkling you know you just make sure the entire surface is covered so sure Master Cho dropping gems right here but yeah so there's a reason to ferment their feed and do all that but
56:36 I think we were just doing this as a demonstration. Plus they probably didn't make it the day before because we were so busy doing other stuff. And so, you know, you got to do what you can. But ideally, I know at a certain point here, I'm talking about something there, probably the layout of their pen, but you see how they can run through here, the pens, the, let me go back just a sec here. So you see how the feeders are facing this direction. it so they can go from their roost over to their water and back and not have to trip over these if
57:08 you put these this direction they would have to jump over all these hurdles and it would make them sad right so to keep them happy you put it in alignment this way you have their laying box over here and their roost on the back and the box is lined this way and the water on this side opposite of the roost and the chickens go back and forth they're super healthy they love it they do their thing so this is the ideal chicken pen setup and then also notice the white birds are the roosters the rest are hens and there are one rooster per 10 chicks and if you notice
57:42 or pretend chickens hens hens we'll call them hens chick hens um and they have their own clutch and the roosters go around the outside protecting their clutch while they're while the hens are eating. Notice none of the roosters are eating yet. They're going around protecting their ladies, doing their thing, making social order, dancing, clucking, telling the ladies where the food is, letting the ladies eat first. They are very nice and they're very happy and they're in this psychological thing. If you had more roosters than this, they wouldn't have their clutch and
58:13 they would fight with each other. If you had less roosters than this, the hens wouldn't feel safe and they wouldn't be protected this way. So it's very important to have basically a 10 to 12 to one ratio between, uh, hens to roosters. So notice all the roosters hanging out on the edges. None of them are eating. Well, that guy is now, but they're not eating, right? They're hanging around the outside. This is the whole thing of understanding the chicken psychology, getting the right balance, you know 10 10 to 12 to 1 somewhere in that in that read uh region so why they leave a dozen
58:50 eggs it's because each rooster is proud notice they're not you know so this is all about their protein or their their psychology do you provide sand pebbles or something to help the birds with digestion absolutely there is a special optional chicken feed in there that contains dirt and things, but we'll go over that another time. We'll get to it at a certain point. I know it because I probably will feature it of what it is, but, um, there are different things in there. Plus there's, there's, you know, dirt and stuff on the floor that they eat,
59:25 but there is a special chicken feeder. So great question. Sal will get to it when we get to it. Cause I don't want to skip over things right now and miss important details of Dr. Park. Look how studly he is um yeah hello fams it's bye what's up five five five solutions new zealand what's up we got a we got a kiwi in the house awesome we got a cool um i planted coxfoot grass in june and watering almost daily to keep it alive temperature on the light gray sand over 60 c geez that's hot on a modestly warm day haven't even had 40 seed day yet can see the weeds
1:00:06 can grow weeds easily yeah so anyway growing that i don't know it seems like you know but look at the look at the roosters they're around the outside right around the outside they're keeping their hands nice and this is why it's about chicken psychology this is why it's about this right they're happy yes oh thank you cool brad thank you thank you um thanks yeah happy chicken super chat happy thanksgiving to you too appreciate it you know all this knowledge all this info this this thing here 2 000 views 2.2 000 views seven years ago nobody cares about this
1:00:43 people do care it's only when i highlight my own stuff it's like i just put this out here for free nobody watches it what the hell i mean 2 000 people it's not like nobody but you know when you say there's like 8 billion people it's like come on 8 billion what are you doing um only a significant or insignificant rounding error has watched this so anyway uh let's skip forward a little bit i'm sure they're talking about good things um master cho going in what's he gonna do he's gonna go maybe he's showing us how to walk in there maybe he just naturally
1:01:11 shuffles um dr park's going in what are they doing dr park what okay they're coming back out maybe they just wanted to flex i don't know i just have this on mute oh he's flashing gang signs all right um let's see what else happened in here okay now we're back at the chicken thing what are we doing well hopefully that was interesting to seeing the feed mixing we'll get into what was actually in that feed maybe maybe I should just go back to that right now but I think are we going to set up another one I think we already set this
1:01:48 up to be honest I'm pretty sure we already watched this so let's go back to Dr. Park standing right here and let's listen to him talk about the feed because right here right here I reckon he talks about it okay so dr park's standing there let's listen in let's see what he says oh so his machine can't handle big mixes so he's making three times the food
1:02:36 10 liter, 10 quart of the water each time you spinach. 10 quart of water per shot. . . This is a rice bran. Oh. 30 kilogram of rice bran. . Better be taking notes. 30 kilos of rice bran. . . . 200 or 200. Here's a few more eggs. 200. 200. 200. 200. 200. 200. 200. 200. 200. 200. 200. 200. 200. 200.
1:03:22 200. 200. 200. 200. 200. 200. 200. 200. 200. 200. 200. 200. 200. So he's adding seawater? How much? How much? Ocean water, ocean water, one liter. So one liter. Calcium phosphate, and the lincase. 200 milliliters. 200 milliliters.
1:04:09 Calcium phosphate, very important. Can't have structure. Animal mineral D. Animal mineral D. Animal mineral D. Ain't nobody have access to that. 150 cc's if you did, though. Nobody has access to that. 200 milliliters plant juice uses acacia you can use pretty much anything. 200 milliliters of water soluble calcium.
1:04:56 You want to make sure? Calcium phosphate? Calcium phosphate solution instead of water soluble calcium? Very important. We're looking at 20 minutes right now on number 4. So, yeah. This fresh... Fresh fresh, same amount as rice hot. How much? This is the Qingcao and Daokok. Looks like a bag. How much? How much? Everyone wants to know the proportions, man. Just... Look at it. You can guess it. Estimate that stuff. 30 kilos. 30 kilos.
1:05:43 So if you had a bigger mixer, apparently you can mix this all at once. But he doesn't have a bigger mixer. Okay. So there you go. That's the liquid mix he's putting in. And I guess, you know, probably we should watch this whole thing from like this bit of it. I don't know. Right here when we walk in here. Because this is the feed formulas, right? This is starting the feed formula of what they're doing, how much they're mixing in. So now we're at 11 minutes. Number four. But, you know, this is their basic feed formula here. They're adding this. What is this? I'm playing him a bit faster.
1:06:22 So it's toasted oyster shell he's adding in. That's what it is. I was saying it was IMO. It's toasted oyster shell. See? Don't listen to me. Listen to them. The chicken do not have stomach acid. Instead of stomach, they have poop in the back. Crop. It's called a crop, bro. Before they poop out, they make their grinding there. It's called a crop. Okay, this sandy soil functions as a grinder in the stool bag. So before they poop, this will make the grinder smaller.
1:07:10 Which again, that's why I say to feed them early at 10 o'clock so they can grind all that up. So when you have commercial feed, they have different kinds of, not this kind, but it's some powdery or sandy material from granite. Yeah, you can use rocks, granite, toasted granite. I don't know. Oh, you know what? Oh, it's way over time. I was so engrossed in this. Oh my gosh. This is an hour, office hour and a half. This is a one and a half meter or one and a half kilogram. We'll finish this a little bit. Three of the candy soil and three of this IMO 4.
1:07:58 This is the calcium out of the oyster shell. One of the gummies. This is the leftover after the rice meal. Right now, right? Yeah. It's not a powdery one. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So that's what you got. They were mixing IMO 4. They were mixing toasted granite. They're mixing toasted calcium oyster shells and also rice bran. So there you go. You know, you can watch this, find out better. I suppose maybe I should cover it in full detail. But since we're over time, I ain't going to go back. We're just going to go forward. So and I think we already saw this moving forward.
1:08:43 But we will start again at four, number four, and see where we go with this chicken here. So hopefully you enjoyed today. you know i mean you can watch this all in your own time you can listen to me kind of give you my you know i don't know what i remember what i do for my chickens you know we you'll have to adapt it to every location but it's an idea of what to do and how to do it and the whole idea is the psychology of them the digestibility the nutrition the feeding all those good things and more so anyway i hope you're having a great um i guess it's a holiday season now and um enjoy
1:09:20 I'll see you next week enjoy it do good things plant things you know long live the natural farmer do everything good buy the book for someone as a present I have promised to ship them out within a week I'll get that in the mail today so it'll go out tomorrow um buy the book pureknf.com knfsupport.com enjoy all the things join the thing next week join our meeting we'll be there and uh I'm gonna get out of here yeah so thanks for spending the time an hour with us yeah it it's actually hour 15 for me at hour 10, you know, um, but anyway, uh, I'm going to get out of here.
1:09:56 Enjoy. See ya. All right. Love you. Bye.