Eucalyptus & IMO Microbes, JADAM Fish Fertilizer, Calfos Ratios

1:00 so i hope so i turned the mic on hey uh welcome good morning good day good uh good time to be here it's uh september 8th 2024 just before uh bush knocked down the towers a couple of years ago and um yeah welcome to korean natural farming office hours uh going over master cho's natural farming brought to you by pure knf foundation and today if we get to it if you don't have any questions we'll get to some my dad going through all of that so got an hour

1:49 ask me anything get into korean natural farming help you support you and your natural farming journey and build community around the world and all that good stuff um also today uh we do have another at two o'clock hawaiian standard time we have a um monthly meeting for pure knf foundation with Reverend Logan in the house today. So looking forward to that. I haven't seen him for a while. It'd be good to catch up and find out how his natural farming journey is going and all that. So look forward to that if you're a member of the Pure Canna Foundation. See you there later today at 2.

2:31 So enjoy that. Before we get into it, let's get a bit of higher wisdom because what is life worth if you're not living for a higher wisdom? um let's see here we got return today return so a time of darkness comes to a close receiving this hexagram is a sign you have reached a turning point the moment is akin to the winter solstice the greatest adversity is past and the light is beginning to return. Nonetheless, one cannot force the completion of a change

3:19 and it is wise to rest. Act only when you can move gently and innocently and all will be well. Fu comes as a reminder to return to the light in yourself. Growth is only possible when we relinquish the expressions of the ego, pride, impatience, anger, and desire. To act forcefully or ambitiously now will only generate misfortune. Let things develop naturally in their own way.

4:06 Observe and accept things, accept changes as you observe and accept the rising of the sun. Allow yourself time to rest and to gather strength for a time of growth ahead. By holding to modesty, gentleness, and correct conduct, you prepare the ground for a fruitful blossoming when the light fully returns yeah so um you know coming interesting winter solstice not quite more like uh happy fall it's fall now i think i mean it has been for the last office hour just didn't recognize it

4:57 but uh season's definitely changing here it's starting to get a little bit cooler here in hawaii sun is starting to set earlier so i can't go i have to be on it to go up to visit my livestock around 5 p.m and make sure i'm ready to milk because it's starting to get dark earlier whereas in the summer you can go up at like 6 30 and milk late and it's nice and have that extra daylight hours but getting a little tight on us um yeah grass is gonna start slowing down gotta move the cows a little bit different patterns those things

5:38 the fall happened years ago mm-hmm you know two buildings went down a couple days from now um three buildings actually what happened to building seven um anyway um yeah aloha we got Sal in the house. What's up, Bridron? We got our Brazilian friends. We got Cecily coming in from Western Australia. Good-bye, mate. Mark coming in from someplace, man. He travels all the time, man. West Coast gypsy over there. Yeah. Christophe coming in from Belgium. Yo. um hank what's up c19 was an inside jab that's a good one i like that that's a nice pun there

6:29 i gotcha it's actually a good shirt you should make that man make a million dollars yo yo knf fam the goof what's up goof good to see you brethren good to be here with you and um so sow has been doing IMO these days and it's fine but when it I take soil from my garden where there's a lot of eucalyptus leaves fall IMO4 doesn't heat up and doesn't work can eucalyptus sterilize microbes and the answer is yes eucalyptus certain certain plants um

7:06 Certain plants are eucalyptus. I'm just going to look it up real quick because I find this here. Hang on, let me bring this over and grab that like that and jam that over there and bring this window further this direction. So eucalyptus can put different things into the soil. It is very selective on its microbiome around it. I think it will say it down here. Let's see. Flowers and fruits, taxonomy, history, species hybrids, related genre, distribution, fossil records.

7:52 It's okay. It's an old tree, but frost intolerance, animal relationships. No, okay, no. That's talking about diseases that can get adaptions to fire, fire hazard. Man, it's flammable, let me tell you. But pulpwood, eucalyptus oil, musical instrument, dyes, prospecting, plant, species. I don't even know if this is going to say it here's Brazil they were introduced to Brazil in 1910 for timber as a substitution in the charcoal industry wow there's 7 million hectares planted down there

8:38 wow but here let's just look this is near Sao Paulo near Pedro but they do have their own microbiome similar similar to ironwoods they do have their own microbiome that they generate and it's not the most um what do you call um friendly to everything else you want you want to be gathering your IMO dirt and soil around things with broad leaves yeah there's there's here it's in Hawaii um yeah so let's see oh here here non-eucalyptus and biodiversity uh is this gonna talk about it no

9:28 no no so this entire this entire article did not reference what I was trying to talk about, but, um, but eucalyptus and, um, ironwood, ironwood, let's see here. Um, ironwood, Michigan, no ironwood. Let's just look it up. So, um, okay. There's a bunch of different species of ironwood that I don't know which one I'm talking about. I guess it's just a general name for trees. Um, look at all these different plants named ironwood. Oh, this is the one I'm talking about here, though. Yeah, here, this looks like you're

10:14 in Hawaii. This, you know, it creates its own microbiome under it. So you don't want to gather under ironwoods, what else, like evergreens, or you want to gather under broadleaf trees, is really, and the eucalyptus sort of has a broadleaf, you know, you can look at this. it's more of a long skinny leaf. It's more like the koa tree when it first sprouts. But you want to gather, you know, where like you know what's really good to gather under is mango. Well.

11:01 Yeah, mango trees. Mango trees are really good. Mango images. this mangoes not the you know these these leaves are also sort of narrow looking but man mangoes really good IMOs under there and uh the other one I bet you have them where you are avocado avocado not uh not David avocado but uh the avocado tree these man is such good microbes under the avocado trees plus you get avocado fruits delicious so um so yeah it does it does matter what kind of tree you gather under for soils um to make your IMOs and some will have

11:45 I don't know what it is different oils you know eucalyptus oil it's very pungent um yeah and ironwoods the leaves are too thin they kind of they kind of as a defense mechanism to help them grow they kind of select the microbiome to be very narrow only for it to thrive so anyway good um that could be why it's not heating up eucalyptus sterilized microbes yeah oh he's marks in santa cruz cool yeah brethren santa cruz and i i like that you know if i if i if i ever get sainted for some reason i would have them make

12:28 my name santa cruz you know bro bro dude is just cruising bro unreal um yeah i don't see mycelium even where there's a lot of wood under the eucalyptus trees next note yeah yeah eucalyptus it selects man it can really actually the roots growing into your other things can can really changed the microbiome um yeah yeah they're they're killing your rhizobium balls in their roots yeah totally totally what's up we got rainbow possum in the house what is it is that an owl or a cat i can't tell it's too small hello from seattle um yeah i wonder if mark's still up there different

13:10 different mark a professional skateboarder mark um i wonder yeah he's doing natural farming he was out I don't know he might be in the San Juan Islands but he's near Seattle too he said he'd looked over um the the what do you call uh the ismuth no what is it it's a Puget a sound oh a sound that's what it is a sound he looked over the Seattle sound and he was he used to live out there but there's a good good community of folks up in Seattle I haven't heard from Mark lately but um hopefully he's doing well got a lot of different marks out

13:47 there mark you know when you're when you're named after a bible character a lot of you out there typically you know think of how many johns you know and for some reason a lot of bobs you know everyone has an uncle bob right um i actually have three uncle bobs which is quite quite interesting um yeah san juan's yeah any recommendations for colorado um say hi to my sister uh what do you mean what recommendations for um yeah um collecting imo okay collecting imo um collecting imo if you're gonna you know one thing is like

14:39 it can be more deserty um dry desert depends where you are in colorado um but number one barrier IMO box. So number one here, um, I'm going to go to my channel here and just pull up my channel. And, um, if you look here, this is my channel. You can get to click on the thing below like, subscribe, share, you know, whatever this YouTube things, um, to do not saying you're dumb for doing it. I'm saying it is dumb that everyone has to continually ask and request that. Um, But if on here there is a video, let's just see, let's just sort my stuff by videos here and let's go by the most popular.

15:23 And let's see here. So collecting IMOs in Colorado. Let's see. I'm looking for the Korean video, the one that's all in Korean that people complain about all the time because it's not translated. let's see let's see what's popular oh you know what here uh use this video this one here how to collect IMO indoor greenhouse and cold weather knf especially as it's starting to go now where it's starting to get colder up there um summer's fading do do check this thing out front range mountains and high plains yeah so check out this video here we'll watch it just a little bit um

16:08 but then let's see i'm looking for another specific video here because korea is actually very similar to colorado parts of korea are um it gets cold it can be dry it can be hot can be all the good things you get out there so um let's see which is the korean video i'm looking for. I can't search for it because it's in Korean. I should translate it on Google into English so I could just search for it. Man, so many good videos. So many good videos.

16:55 Let's see here. Okay, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling. Oh, man. Man, so many good videos. we're at the thousand mark it got to be more than a thousand people watch this video though let's see so many videos oh here's here's indigenous microbes and hemp that one might be worth looking at um all my all these master cho things these are all good oh look there's there's young song cho wearing the same shirt I'm wearing today. Look at that. I expect I was, maybe I was wearing that same shirt that day too. And there's my old dog, Amakua. Oh man, Bill is his soul, man. He, uh,

17:38 he had run over my car. Um, let's see, let's see, let's see. Colorado. Come on, man. Okay. If I don't find it in the next little scroll here, I'm, I'm giving up. Um, let's see here. man okay okay i'm giving up i'm giving up there's too many good videos to look through there's just so much information man there's so much information yeah we're down here already at the 400 to 500 mark i can't believe these videos they only have like 400 views look at mr beast i'm like what the heck oh yeah look at the no yeah we'll watch this one too just because that's good nostalgia

18:28 um let's see may okay am I gonna give up the scroll I think I am I'm gonna give up the scroll ready no I see that's the problem is I just keep scrolling that's that's why you know you gotta watch your addictions to YouTube there's so much good information though there's so much good stuff like even these low watched videos where I'm down here looking at nematodes and things like how did this, you know, maybe it's poor thumbnails and like bad promotion and bad, you know, maybe I'm just not good at promoting my stuff, but man, look at, this is like a treasure trove. You find

19:04 this thing, man, scroll through here and find all this stuff. Look, I just can't even stop scrolling. It's like, it's so good. There's so many good videos. Um, OMG. Um, okay. But let's, okay. I'm going to stop scrolling. I promise I'm going to stop scrolling. Let's go to this video here. This is, so if you're in Colorado, check this out. So, um, you know, preparing the leaf mold, like number one, you can gather a bunch from your forest around again, broad leaves, and you're not really going after leaves. You're going after the soil, the leaf soil. This is a bunch of leaves.

19:40 So this isn't the best thing, but grabbing the leaf soil around where you're at, just that top layer and getting enough and bringing enough leaf matter into your house, you can bring it in and basically you pile it up. He has this area where it's built in this little box. Let me turn on my mouse here. Um, he has this little box around here. Um, but first thing to do is to moisten it. So he's, we're going to spray water at it. Um, and as we're spraying water, we're kind of stirring it. What is that? Oh, he's showing us the different leaf molds and the things that we're like looking

20:18 for. And it's, you know, it has that nice dank soil smell to it, but he's basically, you know, they're spraying water in here, moistening this up, getting it all nice, right moisture content. But you can do this indoors in your, you know, in a greenhouse, in anywhere, especially if you're in colorado nice way to do it this is we were doing this in fall in korea it's about to snow there um and then after you moisten up then you can cook your rice properly obviously we were tasting the rice to make sure it was properly al dente cooked um and then uh fluffing the rice up

21:00 Try not to contaminate it with your hands, though. Using, you know, just... And then putting it in our boxes, right? So this box, that box, different woven materials, putting those in. Doing this, putting it into the box. Not trying to smash it down, but just spread it out. Get it nice and fluffed in there. And then burying that. So once we get it all nice in there and fluffed, fluff that other box. then burying it into a pile or you know into your your heap that you've made so this is it's not just leaf matter it's also the soil you see how much soil there is with this that's that's

21:40 what you're after and then putting the lid on this you know paper over it there were some sticks put on there sticks to keep the paper from going down into the box and then and then putting some hay bacillus next to it. So this is freshly cut hay that has different microbes, putting that nearby, putting it on the edges, and then burying it. And so you can do this. You can collect IMO. Oh my gosh. Let me exit. So you can collect IMO in Colorado right now, easily, indoors, super easy super fun so hopefully that helps out um looks like a truckload to take from the woods

22:24 yeah you know it's maybe like three or four big big uh contractor bags um but you know so so yeah and you don't want to obviously strip your woods away but if you can do it so i just want to show you a little bit of this is a project we did downtown hilo oh there's aloha my old dog shales that got hit by a car man life's hard when your dog um but look so so again actually under these bottle brush trees they were also putting out weird enzymes so nothing wanted to grow there so a lot of trees that have these high oil contents these are bottle brush seals narrow leaves

23:02 they also stop the microbiome from growing these bottle brush trees and it was always very difficult to get things to grow there but this is downtown helo um cruising along and then all this here so this is bottle brush trees we'll make this go a little faster here um so this is what this is the before this is what it looks like before we did a project down there it's kind of desolate roundup sprayed death it looks like this again now by the way um because i just didn't have the energy to continue to facilitate the project and nobody else seems to care and or do anything about it

23:44 if you do care because if you did something about it it would look different but this is you know the potential of helo this is what it could look like look at that spot always floods at the bottom of highly street we were starting to mulch things out a little bit but largely nothing was done down here let's make it go a little bit faster you see there were some tea leaves and we did start to do some beautification via some ornamental plants. This was Chico doing this. And then over here, nothing, nothing, just death, you know, and this is what the ground looked like. Just death,

24:18 you know, sprayed roundup, wouldn't even grow grass. That's how dead it was. And so then about, this is 12 years ago, by the way, then we planted all this taro down there and sweet potatoes and pineapples and taro and lemongrass and more sweet potatoes. Let me slow this down a little bit because I'm riding a little bit fast. I'm on my bike. And we took this and we changed it. Comfries, flowers, taro, sweet potatoes, planted all this down there. And even then under the bottle brushes, it was still doing well.

24:54 So we took an area that was just dead and put down microbes and brought this whole thing to life. and this is just our downtown area look how nice that was the entire thing um all cavas nice that probably got stolen by somebody um but again under the bottle brush it didn't do as well down here kind of riding the opposite direction sweet potatoes did okay but under the bottle brush it still was a little bit hard to do so anyway that uh you know natural farming project. Just a little nostalgia for you. And then, what is this? Nematodes?

25:34 Yeah, so this is us. This is me looking under the microscope, finding nematodes, doing soil samples. Figured it was worth showing this as well. Shooting my cell phone through a microscope, so that's why it's a little weird. But see some nematodes. This is us looking through the microscope. seeing what we can see here look at that another nematode so you know if he oh there's there was some active thing going by um so looking through and seeing some nematodes i can't tell if this is a bacterial or fungal guy but this is a very active nice soil treated with imo

26:12 so it's always fun to have a microscope look through see things there's a nice chunk of fungus there what else are we looking at just the microscope itself oh nice microscope get in there see what we can see oh yeah nice active biology cruising around what is that some flagellates nematodes that's what good living soil is going to look like you know oh no that is a bunch of ciliates eating something i don't know if that's good maybe they're on the edge of the slide trying to get away from the heat. Maybe that's not the best thing to see. I

26:53 mean, if they're flagellates, it's good, but those look like ciliates, the way they're zooming around. Got some nematodes. It's a good soil sample. What were we sampling? We were probably sampling some tea that we brewed. Is that Drew? No, that's me. Oh my gosh wild and then what is that soil sample I don't know the heck is that oh it's the maybe it's the bubbles yeah anyway random oh making T I am OTs and making those things man this is way back in the day when you just growl here now this is all perennial peanut it's all grown over there's actually a cement pad

27:37 right here wow this is classic footage was it 10 years ago yeah it makes sense so just filling this up making imo teas all those good things that's how you make good tea imos anyway classic little nostalgia there found some good videos to look at let's see um yo uh jeremy in the house no way bro bro. I'm going to be on Maui for the convention. Hope to see you, Bridger. At least I think I'm going to be on Maui for the convention. I don't know. May or may not. But I hope you're there, bro. Catch up, you know. Hopefully your daughter must be doing well. She's probably pretty old by

28:17 now, man. I would imagine. Okay. Let's see. Okay. Over 7,000, 30 years ago. Great IMO. I also have wattles and bank size somehow they all work together fungal bodies everywhere at the moment okay so maybe in australia where they're natively from they do well with the the eucalyptus i don't know but uh thousands of eucalyptus trees eucalypts um yeah um high salinity soils what do i recommend high salinity. I recommend two things if you have high salinity, two things. If you got

29:03 high salinity, one is getting humic and fulvic acids out there that ties up the salinity. And that's great. So it's a good temporary thing. Humic fulvic acids. The other thing is if you increase your organic matter, they naturally produce humic and fulvic acids, which then again, ties up the salinity naturally. So IMOs, putting that out, building soil foundation, you will create a situation that ties up the salinity of your soil so that in itself humic fulvic acids either putting it out artificially and putting it out there which you can get it

29:36 from worm tea compost all these things putting more organic matter out there you can look up humic fulvic scoed on that whole rabbit hole but that's what they do or you can make them naturally in situ by putting out IMOs and feeding your IMOs and building IMO structure or the last thing to do is to put calcium out there. Calcium is a transporter and it helps to move the things around. So I'm pretty sure the calcium is a good one. It'll at least help out. But the humic, fulvics, compost, organic matter, even just burying wood chips, getting more carbon in your soil

30:12 will help with salty soil for sure. So yeah, so those are those things. Those are those things. yeah man oh man just scrolling this youtube there's so many good things here so many good things just where's that one video i wanted to watch though it maybe maybe i'll just search for it search um korean um learning center oh yeah here here this is the one i was actually looking for so for the colorado question again just a little bit more on that this video here it's called learn i'll just link it i'll just throw it in the chat here for you and we'll drop that in

30:58 the chat although yeah they'll drop that in the chat so this one you know when you when what do i recommend doing in colorado is basically mimicking exactly what they're doing in korea which is covered in this video here um so northern thai guy wanted some captions with this six years ago it did not happen um and it's all in korean but you can kind of just look at the pictures. And this is the Goksung Learning Center that we go to. So I'm just going to put this, oh shoot, not up there. I'm going to put this down here and just go, oh, why is it doing

31:32 that to me? A little bit faster. So this, we'll put it in theater mode so everyone can see it. So collecting IMO1, look at these, like, look, it's cold. They're wearing puffy jackets. so first thing you do you kind of scrape away the top leaf duff area then you hoe in there with your favorite hoe and then you make a box put it out there put the leaves back over and you're burying that box right this is something that you know if you watch this bro's video down here he's not going to tell you to do that stuff but this is how to do it this is the way the korean way

32:10 his he just puts it on top and it's like i can't believe people watch that video but um here look at that nice mycelia that is like some of the best stuff ever mixing the brown sugar that is like a level a plus a plus a plus this is the exact way to do it then you put it in a clay pot like that make sure you have three kilograms worth then you go on to im03 they're using a machine um you can use a machine if you have thousands of dollars or you can just do a pile method. Um, oh yeah, I like that guy. Oh, all these people, man, I know all these people.

32:44 They're great folks. Uh, master Cho actually almost married this woman right here. And then he decided that, um, Oma was the one. So they, they have an IMO machine where they make it this way. Um, cause they're just making huge and then they kind of fermented out after it's like the huge mixing slash fermenting thing. They run it at low pressure, uh, right moisture, all those things to do it and then they're talking about making IMO 4 mixing in soil I think um so they basically make IMO 3 and send to the farmer they make the IMO 4 it's all about

33:17 keeping it under 120 or 50 celsius um I don't know what she's saying she's talking about all the different plant juices all these things no this is different IMO I don't know what that says um but yeah so what is this plant juice oh uh this is making knf medicine they got some garlic cinnamon ginger licorice angelica so they're making this as well helpful that milk is actually soju or no it's not soju it's uh makgoli crushing up all the garlic mixing it with the sugar doing the things look at that adding the alcohol yeah ohn is what he calls it oriental herbal

34:04 nutrient i call it knf medicine because it just makes more sense but he it's ohn nutrient you know oriental herbal nutrient if you really wanted to go old school and go with master chose confusing vocabulary that doesn't make sense for us as western people to learn um so look now they're making some mugwort some dropwort plant juice look at that oh yeah put that stuff in oh and then why are they putting a sugar cap no need uh they're cutting it up no need to cut it up just mix the sugar bro um and they're gonna pack it in that clay vessel look

34:39 at that nice clay vessel no need to sugar cap they don't know that though it's okay um let's see here what are they doing they're making plant juice pouring it off it's gonna be delicious um let's see here oh they're gonna make a fruit juice knf food knf medicine food oh yeah no need to smash the apples don't do that bad idea um just chop them you're gonna have better results although they you know whatever you can smash it a little bit the idea is not to make the break the cell wall too bad smashing apples with a stick as long as you

35:17 smash them with a stick like this I guess you're fine what is this oh yeah it's gonna make fish I get a fish come on do fish no they're making sulfur oh my gosh yeah sulfur watch out doing this watch out this oh my god I can't believe you're not wearing a gas mask yeah wild not recommended but that's what we're going to get into today. Medaj. We'll get into that. You know what? They're going to make some soap. Oh yeah. Look at that soap. So they're, you know, even at the official learning center, they're, they're doing Medaj and, um, Master Cho's stuff the same. They made some soap.

36:00 Look at that. Oh, nice soap, bro. Nice soap. And then what was he going to make? Come on, make some fish, make some fish, do some fish. Come on, come on. No, they're going to spray it out look at that perilla oh my gosh whoa they're gonna feed some chicken look at those chickens yeah look at that dude oh i met that dude he's super cool yeah oh that was me um yeah look at those nice eggs oh yeah look at that nice perilla oh my gosh it's uh yeah look at that that's delicious this dude's making money look at that dude he just made 400 kilos of grain and rice

36:40 and oh my yeah look how happy that dude is that's what you get doing korean natural farming see we're almost done here and then we'll get back we'll do my dad's my dad's time is it it is yeah so if anyway what i wanted to show you in this video is that um you know the very beginning where you collect the imos and do it properly and or there's two ways of collecting imos that's the best way to collect it up in the mountains. Um, okay. So let's go back over here and then, um, is it, is it, is it, is it my dad's time? Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is. Um,

37:23 yeah, it's my dad's time. Let's get into it. So we left off last week. slide 123 so we're doing madage we're getting into madage we're going through we're gonna do you know we're doing this we're getting into it the ultimate objective to bring farmers farming back to farmers because who else would do it besides robots although sometimes my goal is to bring my farm to the robots or to the animals actually let the animals do the farming and leave the farming to nature. But that's what we're doing here. Ultra low cost. That is what Madaj is. And it is Young Song Cho, Master Cho's son,

38:12 who does not fully understand Master Cho's methods, but also made it available for the ultra cheap world where you don't have access to a bunch of things. So we've been going through it. We've been covering it. We've been going through how to make spinach fertilizer. there look how disgusting this was yeah alpacas cool you can make um alpaca sweaters look at these strawberries look at all that yeast this is going to be disgusting but effective and again last week we talked about how he has all these chemicals in here but i doubt much of it gets absorbed and all

38:46 those things oh oh yeah and big west big west had a few questions from last week i did not get to those you put them in a youtube comment man you gotta ask again i can't remember youtube comments i gotta go back to the youtube um so again last time we talked oh yeah i said i would not go back past here because we talked about some shitty things uh which is basically mostly like you know um your butt makes most the fertilizer you would need for your farm and all so between your food scraps and you're just pooping and food, like basically right here, a family of four will

39:25 produce everything you need to farm. And if we all put our poop and waste in the right places, it will, you'll have everything you need if you use these disgustingly cheap methods, which is true. Farming should be cyclical. Again, you know, you don't need that much. and that's one of the beauties of this that's why i'm going over this i you know as part of korean natural farming this is the ultra cheap way of doing korean natural farming and so today he is talking about fresh anchovy jadam liquid fertilizer so instead of um using sugar and

40:02 making something drinkable that's palatable that's actually probably good for you he makes this disgusting liquid where you just take fish and put it in water and put a little leaf mold This is probably going to smell like hell. And then you get this liquid and be super careful with this. I would not recommend this method at all, but it didn't cost you anything other than the fish and the bucket and the water and the soil and your sanity and your ability to smell all those things. So, but this is just, you know, he's just, instead of using sugar, he's just dissolving it straight in water.

40:37 So if you don't have access to sugar, just do it straight in the water. Super gross. Look at that. It just gets crusty as heck. These are all the bodies of probably really gnarly microorganisms. And I can almost puke just looking at this. I bet you it's fairly potent. I bet you it'll do its thing. He's going to go through the chemical analysis and say that this is in there. I don't know what's going to be absorbed from it. But I bet you, you know, I just don't think this is a good way.

41:11 Plus, if you use this much fish or that much fish or this type of fish or that type of fish, maybe if you're using all anchovies, this is what it is. So he's making 26 gallons of disgustingly puke stuff. And I guess maybe he's using a lot of leaf mold in there. I don't know. 22 pounds of leaf mold. Oh, no, no. No, he's putting 26 gallons of water and 22 pounds of fish waste and then some leaf mold. That's what he's doing. So that's his recipe. 26 gallons of water, 22 pounds of fish, and leaf mold. Mix all that together and this is what you end up getting.

41:55 And he's saying it has a lot of nitrogen fertilizer. But unlike other nitrogen fertilizer, it has many more nutrients than just urea, which is the same for making the fish amino acid or what i call knf fuel it's just there's so much more to it except for the knf fuel the way it's made with master cho it has lactobacillus and all these good microbes this way is going to be disgusting and pathogenic but diluted enough you know at least one to 100 maybe one to 200 and you should be good um crop growth is like building a

42:30 house you can't make a house only with cement i beg to differ i bet you could make a house only with cement, it probably just wouldn't be as efficient. And every single time it's like, I go through his stuff and I'm like, he's wrong. He's wrong. It's, it's like, it's no, he's right. A lot of ways. It's this is ultra cheap way of doing it. I, maybe it's just, it doesn't resonate with me. It does in certain situations, but I'm like, there are better ways to do it. And when he makes such broad, bold claims and like, he's so over the like verbose

42:59 and what he's talking about, I'm just like, uh, anyway, every time I kind of talk about this, yeah so you could make alpaca poo recipe the same way just put the horse manure or alpaca poo or goat poo or human poo or whatever poo in here we talked a lot about poop last week so let's just continue talking about poop what a great subject um but yeah you can make these things and make potent nitrogen fertilizers. So he's saying basically use JLF made from crop residue and wild grass as the main additional fertilizer and then add the nitrogen JLF to boost growth.

43:42 Okay, so this makes sense, right? You're not using this one all the time. You're using it just to boost growth because if you use this all the time, your plants would get obese, right? And overgrow, and then you would have poor harvest. So, and then if you give one ton, 464 gallons of water for a quarter acre, calculate the volume of JLF based on 100-time dilution. So here's his recommended application rate, right? you're going to put 264 gallons or one ton of water out per quarter acre. And so it's a heck of a lot more than natural farming, right? Which is 25 gallons per acre, right?

44:29 25 gallons per acre misted, sprayed up into the canopy, really easy. So even though you're making a lot more fertilizer via his method, your dilution and your application become so much heavier and so much more that, you know, like I only have a 40 gallon sprayer on my tractor, right? So it means I would have to, what is like a 200 by 40, like, uh, what is that? Uh, two 64 divided by 40. It's 6.6. So, So in order to do a quarter acre, I would have to refill my sprayer 6.6 times to do that. And so think of it, even though versus I can do almost two acres with that same 40 gallon

45:20 sprayer with Master Cho's methods. So even though you're making more fertilizer this way by just like making this and you have a disgustingly huge bucket you know and like he's saying up here you know where where he's going and he's making just buckets and buckets and buckets of this stuff like just barrels of it his application rate when you get down to it um is um let's get past the poop area his application rate is so much more right one ton per quarter acre so think of that you know if you're going lift that that's one ton can your back handle that i mean maybe maybe you got some young kids

46:00 around that that you want to have back problems later um or you know or you got heavy machinery to put this out and and yeah this is soil drench right and you're putting this down but look at the volumes okay so this is where where it's like oh i'm making so much more this is so much better it's like master chose is 25 gallons per acre sprayed or 100 gallons per acre um uh drenched right so you're about uh what is that uh you're twice you're eight times more efficient with master chose solutions and you didn't have to make all this that you know so it was a little

46:37 bit more expensive i'm just like this is why i'm always like i can't you know the the the madage has a place but i just can't get behind it so every time you hear me hating on it this is why right here and then he's also saying like use jlf from the you know crop residue and then add the one from the the um like the fish or the food waste or the poop waste to boost the growth but a few slides back right here he says don't worry about the nitrogen theory and don't worry about this theory just use the wild grass residue right so he's saying like so he's contradicting

47:16 himself in his own presentation where he's like, do this, just use this and get balanced growth. And he's like, not this, don't worry about this. And then he goes down a few slides later down here and he's like, do this. And it's like, bro, come on, come on, bro. Anyway, I don't want to like harp on it too long, but I do, you know, if you look at this, it's like, yeah, this is your growth cycles. This is my book here. This is the growth cycles. You're always going to use food all the time. So it lines up with what he's saying. You use

47:46 food all the time. And then you use fuel in a certain areas, right? You're using it in the seed soak. You're using it in leaf growth formula. And then you're using it very lightly in the bloom and the fruiting formulas, right? One to 3000. That's like one milliliter per gallon. That's just a drop basically per gallon that you're using this versus here you're using, you know, four milliliters per gallon early and so it lines up exactly with what he's saying here in his presentation it's like uh where'd that go yeah it's it lines up exactly like add the

48:27 nitrogen to boost fertilizer growth even though he says don't do it it's like then he's saying do it it's like man come on uh hitting hitting that um that sky vodka a little bit too hard brethren Okay. So anyway, we get it, right? I don't need to harp on him too bad. I know everyone's like, come on, get over it. So we'll get to your questions at the end. Here, go through Medaj a little bit more. Yeah, and Sao San that he mixed together, a little water, sugar, LAB, and fish fertilizer in 30 days. That sounds great. You're mixing in along these things, doing those things.

49:12 You're right in line with this theory of you want to add the fish or the nitrogen at the right stages. You don't want to cause overgrowth. You don't want to use it at the wrong time. And if you look here at the Master Cho's formulations that are in my book, you'll know when to use the nitrogen, the fuel. If you just call it fuel, you'll know. And if you think of it as a fire that you're lighting, you've got to use less once it's going. and once it's going. But in the early stage, you got to use a little bit more accelerant

49:42 fire fuel to get your fire going. So anyway, hopefully that helps. That's why I've translated the things into those names because then it makes it hopefully intuitive if you're an English speaker and understand those ideas. So now he's making natural calfos fertilizer. Not sure what this is maybe it's a certain type of plant and or chido sand oh so he's taking shrimp shells what the heck is that leaves looks like comfrey actually i don't know comfrey comfrey and um and shrimp shells so look at that oh that's disgusting you should put it lower in there but

50:23 just shrimp shells or oyster shells and the same methodology of putting that in there leaf mold all these things you know his just very crude methods of doing the same thing master chose doing just very crude and so much more application and so much more weight and everything to do um hey super chats super chats thank you bird thank you thank you thank you yeah super chats keep this thing ad free for you just a reminder if you don't like ads you know you gotta pay for that yeah human waste so just know when to use the nitrogen fertilizers the human waste the fish

51:06 waste um spoiled hay over the weekend yeah yeah composting it composting it's probably best hey thank you christoph thank you thank you you guys woo yay woo oh super chats and look at all this amazing stuff we get to cover you get to yeah make hay biochart yeah sure sure those are all good things um jadam use soil drench fertilizer yeah yeah okay so we're back on track here yeah so so basically you know you you can make this cheap but your application rate is going to be way more so it's up to you you know and look at that that looks oh i bet you that smells so bad

51:52 because there's so many pathogens in there but again diluted enough and it should be yeah bad smell and maggots are not always bad news are not bad news i don't know man i don't know what is bad news besides maggots and a terrible smell you know good luck convincing your wife to help you in the garden when you're doing this or your husband, you know, they're going to be like vomiting. Man, I was putting rotten eggs, not like a few eggs were rotten, feeding it to my pigs. Oh, almost vomited. Oh, it smells so bad. And the reason it vomits because your body does not want

52:27 to ingest these bad microbes. Like, can you just, don't you feel queasy just looking at this? I mean, I do. I just, I've done it too many times and you get this on you and you're not going to get it off. You're going to smell like it, you know, rotten eggs, that, that puke smell. So he's using, he's saying he's using a natural color enhancer. I don't know what this is. Looks like powdery mildew leaves he's putting in here. Maybe it's, maybe it's sweet potato. I don't know what that one is, but he's saying that basically, so to go back to the application,

53:04 you know, he was talking about that amount you got to put down, but he's also saying before transplanting or flowering. So in the very beginning, when you're working out there, you want to jaw, jaw, jaw, jaw, jaw. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, you got to check out the first time we went to Korea and saw him because he's just like jaw or check out, you know, Young Sung Cho's lectures on my YouTube channel. Just, you know, search Young Sung Cho, you'll see those. And he talks about heavily drenching before. So before transplanting or

53:37 flowering you're just you're drenching the living crap out of your field a whole bunch then after it's transplanted or flowering then i think you're doing it less i think that's what this is showing unless maybe he just wanted to put this down here so he had it less but the idea is that you know you put these nutrients out and you do it um so here he's putting out what is this uh 500 liters of a microbe solution uh 1.1 pounds of sea salt diluted into there in a on a quarter acre he's putting in um this much phylite solution so 20 liters per quarter acre and the uh the wild grass

54:28 fertilizer diluted 100 times. So basically, you can mix this up. This is sort of a different application rate. But maybe this is the first one was the heavier application rate. And this one is the lighter application rate over here. I'm not exactly sure. I mean, really, when you get into this, it's just like you just kind of shoot from the hip cowboy do what feels right because it's so non scientific in terms of like, just rotting stuff in a bucket, bro. Like, so putting enough out that you see results and not enough out to kill your things. So make sure dilution is the key.

55:04 So dilute everything before you put it out there. And you can follow this as a general formula. You know, the phylite solution is your minerals. So and your sea salt is also minerals, but these are rock minerals put out there. So he's making all these different solutions. So if you don't know, check out the older episodes. You'll see um yeah comfrey super stinky uh you know but but liquid can be effective to put out it all depends on your um on your the way you're doing it um so yeah so yeah and again i think this is actually

55:48 really good advice. Apply the JLS or the MMS and the MLF intensively when the field is empty before your next farming season begins. So right after your harvest or right after, right before your, you know, your winter thaw, apply it then. Not when your plants are in the field because you're introducing all these pathogenic microbes that make such a bad stank to it and such a bad thing that that's what's causing problems so it's best to do it when your field's empty when the soil can just deal with those pathogens and your plants don't have to suffer from that

56:28 so this harvested field that's the time to do it it'll help this all this leaf or leaf and root matter to build better soil with all those microbes and it'll improve your soil so next time you come into it you can sow it and you'll just have better results so he says then this is what you get, right? And it's like you apply then and then you sow into it and you just get amazing growth because you've brought all these nutrients to your soil and you haven't killed your plants. So I really agree with that of like, when should you do it after when your plants aren't growing,

57:02 right? So that's never for me. And also again, in the winter time right now, apply it, right? like like it's starting to be fall leaves are starting to fall off then go out and treat all this stuff so have it going if you don't have buckets going now start them get them going put them out there do the thing this is you know his hyphal bloom on soil by use of jms and i bet you if you put that much jms out there you may be able to get this much microbial activity i don't know i don't know you may have to you know if you really jot it you really jaw jaw you

57:41 might be able to get something like this. I've never seen this happen in a broad scale like this. Maybe it's because it's shaded in a greenhouse. I've seen some things similar to this, but never this much application. So maybe this person just dumped, you know, a hundred tons or probably two tons of that solution in here. Maybe, maybe, maybe it's a quarter acre greenhouse. Maybe they just dumped one ton of it in there. I don't know. But I think these pictures were actually from Master Cho's books. And this was when they put down solid IMO, just judging by these,

58:15 these here. So I think this was actually solid IMO plus soil foundation going down. I think he just pinched these pictures from his dad and just claimed like it was my dad. I don't know. I don't know. I wasn't there to take the picture, but kind of some, for some reason, I have a hunch on that. Maybe it's because I'm biased and I just dis-nastered her young song all the time. But look at these roots, man. This is what you want to have happen. Look at these hairy roots. And so the idea is get enough microbes out there, get them to tie in doing

58:46 the things, hitting the like buttons free. Yes. Good for you on the algorithm. Sure. Which by the way, they told me I made 29,000 likes over my entire thing. So, you know, think of how many times you've watched office hours and haven't hit that like button. um so good roots uh you know obviously if your soil's dead you're gonna have dead roots that look like this versus you use the jms you're gonna have these good roots right so uh you know put that jms out there get rid of these dead roots make the good roots come in you know it's not that

59:19 hard this is probably one of the easiest things and um look at that root growth up top and then this is where the jaw stopped right the jaw didn't reach down far enough but you can get your roots to penetrate deeper further the more you jaw that stuff into the soil meaning just drench in incredible amounts of it and um look at those roots yeah that's what you want to have happen that microbial activity is going to extend these roots thousands of miles where the plant can't reach so we will get to this one here and talk about nematodes next time so we're at 145 we'll

59:58 go on. We'll talk about that next time. I got a few questions to go back for Big Wes here and see see what we got going. But thanks. Hopefully you enjoyed that medag. Hopefully you're getting learning a bit more about it. Hopefully you can handle my whinging on Master or Young Sang Cho because Master Cho stuff just it's better. It's palatable. You put out less. It's so much better. Anyway, I just I gotta be complete here because some people preach the gospel of medag and I'm just like you know it's okay it has its place but you got to understand what you're doing

1:00:29 so um one of my questions was answered by Gardner Scott but one question how long to let bones sit in vinegar for calfos spray I took out the original bones and added more and still bubbling a few days later um so in my recipe here the calfos recipe um let's see here and switch this over so i call it knf structure because it builds the structure it's made from the bones and it recipe is right here so char the bones take the bones fire charcoal these grill starters put the grill starters on top get the fire going put the bones on there charm get the bones out they should

1:01:15 be charred at this point crush them and i add them at seven to one ratio so um it's seven like you can just do it by weight and i put in for every gram of bones i add seven grams of vinegar so seven to one ratio there um are close enough to it and it takes roughly seven to ten days these when you taste the vinegar after this there should be no bubbles and no vinegar taste left if you still have a vinegar taste you did not add enough bones to this solution and it is no good for you so that's the way to know but if you added more bones than vinegar and you still can add more

1:02:05 bones and they continue to bubble then that means your your solution can take more so here it takes roughly seven to 10 days for that dissolution to happen. Okay. And I do it at a seven to one ratio, even though master chose book calls for a 10 to one, I just find more vinegar to the bones is going to guarantee that you get a completely saturated solution with Calphos. And without that, you can, you can run into problems where there's still vinegar in there. It's not supposed to have a vinegar taste at all. Uh, it'll be a sour taste, but it's different. It's, it's discreet,

1:02:38 it's distinctly different so um so let's see yeah talked about the hay bales those things yes people using waste in japan good idea um yeah composting drenching it with microbes biochar um okay so i close the lid don't open it for at least a month no shaking or disturbing the bucket before or during the peak. Definitely do stir daily when you're making your KNF structure, your Calphos. Stir it daily. You need to agitate it. You can just be like, I'm not touching you, I'm not touching you, and then agitate it. But I also recommend just shaking it, you know,

1:03:26 stir it around because that vinegar needs to move with the bones, get in there. So definitely do that. Um, it's a very important, um, yeah. So finding out the easiest way to recycle all your nutrients back is definitely good. Um, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Letting the things off gas. Okay. Um, yeah you gotta be yeah yeah yeah make a ton of plant juice and then sell it on the internet make the money um then you can donate to office hours okay so anyway where can i buy that book um

1:04:13 the book um the book is here is at knfsupport.com so let's let's go there um knfsupport.com uh which is the support site um so it's right here this uh you can click on this one to download it but if you look on this download you will find that there is also um hard copies of it sent to you so you can either a download it and get the current version uh you can download a version where you get um it's sent to you free updates or you can get a hard copy mail to you. So here you go. There's the book right there. Um, yeah. Um, so can of support.com

1:05:00 this, this actually takes you to natural farming Hawaii, which is, which is my personal, um, website where I do, it's my business. The other one's a foundation, just linking to, um, things that we do. So operate two things, the nonprofit plus then my own business that I try to sell things and do so the book can be sent to you and something i do um as much as i can um so uh one to ten don't worry about the one to ten just just if it still tastes like vinegar add more bones um so yes okay okay um yeah that sounds good making the the bed making all that you're on the right path big

1:05:44 Wes, if you're reading the chat, the one he did for his bed, that sounds good. So question two was, should I add my big static leaf composter or let it finish and create a new big leaf? Now I realized it is a fungal pile, so we're not touching it until spring 2026. You know, when I talk about large scale composting, one of the things I like to do is um, look up, uh, Gil, like the Johnson Sue bioreactor is a great idea, but then also, uh, Gil, Karen, Dang, um, he, um, he has a bunch of good stuff. So I think somewhere, um,

1:06:29 he was talking about the, um, the composting. I think, I don't know, it's on my channel somewhere. I have like the audio of Gil, although I don't think I do anymore, but he talked a lot about it. So I got to make those, you know, who knows, whatever. Um, Hey, thanks, George. Thank you. Um, what kind of sprayer do I recommend for acres? Um, it depends if you can get, I'll just, since he super chatted this, I'll answer you a little bit of overtime here. Um, ms75e my favorite maruyama is this one here um i'm not sponsored by them but i should be

1:07:11 but this is my favorite sprayer for small scale um look at that thing it just puts out such nice thing it's a little weed whacker gas engine it has this adjustable sprayer nozzle on the back so you can make it really fine or shoot it up really like a narrow or wide spray and this little weed whacker engine can power like a hundred meter cable or a hose so you can basically make a big tank of stuff like I use a 35 gallon trash can throw the input and the return hose into it so you can use any size tank and you can walk around with this hose and hit what you need around there

1:07:51 really easy you're not carrying a whole bunch of water it's really easy on things especially if you have a four-wheeler or some sort of thing where you could just put that on the back and just go around and spray that way this sprayer is like my favorite uh by far um i also recommend if you are a baller to get a um agris uh t50 one of these um where you just do it arially you know this type of sprayer. And so this one highly recommended depends on what you know, you have what you can do these types of things a drone sprayer really good if you're a baller and you have enough money.

1:08:32 And or if you have a tractor Venturi three point. Let's see here, one of these types of things, where you have a Venturi coming out a three-point that you can drag around on the back of a tractor and these venturis throw the water up using a fan and those types of things so this type of sprayer here those are my recommendations and then if you're on a very very small scale um um i would recommend you know something like a two gallon hand sprayer especially one with the roundup logo on it um you know because then

1:09:17 and you can just like spray it in your mouth while you're walking by people and fake them out or in fact I would not recommend this one because you can't get your hand in there to clean that I would recommend one like this where you can take the lid off and reach in there to clean it but the roundup logo you just can't beat that spraying that around and psyching people out this one even looks better stainless steel so you're not going to put plastic out there even better you probably you know someone's probably not cheap but

1:09:46 man is that nice um so yeah i would recommend you know one that you can get your hand in there this one looks nice roundup logo everything that's great um you know just rep it for the team um gil karandang um so okay so anyway that's what i'd recommend sprayer wise those types of things get the book get the thing, do this stuff up the level instinctively by the char. Okay. Agitate. I was doing that too. Okay. Okay. I think, I think we covered everything plus we're in overtime. So, um, yeah. Um, yeah. And I'm, I don't have any courses scheduled right now. I'm just,

1:10:32 I've been on protest of just like, I don't, I, I, yeah, man, I don't know. I just, yeah i'd be tired of hand sprayer too i would not you know i would just power that thing up man the maruyama ms75e best investment you can possibly make if you're on a larger like i would say that's up to maybe like a three to five acre size is a maruyama ms75e and then if you're going larger than that get a drone or a tractor sprayer and or it all depends on the um you know mechanical damage and all the different things. There's a lot to do. Uh, there's a lot to deal with the

1:11:07 sprayer, getting the right thing, but getting the right thing for what you need. Um, um, okay. So anyway, I am going to get out of here. I will see you if you are a member at, um, at two o'clock today, really appreciate looking forward to that. Again, we're going to have, um, Logan in the house. I want to thank pure Canada foundation sponsoring this. I want to thank the fine folks out there that gave some super chats sponsoring this making it worth the while making it like really um you know reciprocally good enjoy appreciate you doing what you're doing

1:11:42 helping you out in your journey helping me out my learning my things you know i always learn things doing this as well again i'm wearing the official madadge hawaii shirt today yeah so let's get madadge mode um get out there do some good things i'm gonna move some cows have a good time maybe fly the drone around do a little bit of uh um what is that like um take pictures and things yeah um so thanks appreciate you tuning in like share subscribe all the good youtube things and i will see the members later today otherwise i'll see you next week 9 a.m hawaiian standard time

1:12:17 shoots later love you bye