IMO Application Rates, Root Knot Nematodes, JADAM Fertilizer Ratios
Drake opens with the I Ching hexagram for clinging fire, then shows off a new IMO pile monitor he built with an ESP8266 board and Home Assistant. Four temperature probes track air, core, bottom, and side of the pile, log history, and text him a warning at 118°F and an overheating alert at 120°F.
He walks through the KNF book's soil foundation numbers: apply IMO at 3 pounds per 100 square feet, or about 1,200 pounds per acre, as a light dusting for gardens or a donut ring around trees. Drench with the soil foundation formula (food, cleanser, medicine, structure, protectors, minerals) at 2,000 gallons per acre, watering just the top quarter inch of soil, repeated weekly for two to four weeks. He also confirms fermented plant juice does not need super-saturating once strained — it is already saturated and keeps improving for about three years.
A viewer asks whether high fat content buffers rising pile temperatures. Drake isn't sure about fat, but says carbon, like wood chips or biochar, is the known buffer. He revisits his "screw your soil" trick, drilling holes into red clay with an auger and packing them with IMO and bio mix to give roots a path, and compares auger options from cheap hand drills to a $500 earth auger.
For root knot nematodes, he recommends IMO4 to bring in predator nematodes rather than a nematicide, and weekly foliar IMO teas for leaf spot. He covers Young Song Cho's JADAM fertilizer recipe — base fertilizer from wild grass, crop residue, and manure, then three additional fertilizers using microbe solution (MMS), seawater and phylite, food scraps and human waste, and fish or bone meal, each at increasing dilution. He closes on the two balances in farming: microbial versus fertilizer nutrition, and above-ground versus root growth.
Questions answered
- 9:30 How does the ESP8266 IMO pile temperature monitor work? — Four probes (air, core, bottom, side) feed Home Assistant via ESP8266, log history, and text him at 118°F warning and 120°F overheating.
- 16:34 How do you calculate IMO application rate for one acre? — Apply 3 lbs of IMO per 100 sq ft, about 1,200 lbs per acre, then drench with soil foundation formula at 2,000 gallons per acre.
- 22:49 Do you have to super-saturate FAA once it's strained and ready? — No — it's already super-saturated from the sugar and fish waste, and it keeps improving for about three years in storage.
- 23:36 Would high fat content in an IMO3 substrate buffer rising pile temperatures? — Drake isn't sure about fat, but says carbon — wood chips or biochar — is what buffers rising pile temperature.
- 27:52 What is the 'screw your soil' method for heavy clay? — Auger holes into clay soil and pack them with IMO and bio mix so roots get oxygen and nutrients to reach into.
- 37:50 What's the minimum time gap between structure sprays in transition to veg? — Every day is the minimum; recommended frequency is every 7 to 11 days, misted at 25 gallons per acre.
- 44:34 What do you do about root knot nematodes and wilting plants? — Apply IMO4 — root knot nematodes are the favorite food of predator nematodes, so aerate soil so predators can move in.
- 46:58 How do you deal with leaf spot and viral-looking disease? — Spray IMO teas weekly on the foliage; feeding the plant good microbes beats trying to kill the disease.
- 49:08 What's in Young Song Cho's JADAM base fertilizer? — Wild grass cover crop, crop residue, and herbivorous livestock manure, soaked in water and diluted before use.
- 50:42 What's the first additional JADAM fertilizer application? — Microbe solution (MMS) diluted 10 to 100, plus seawater and phylite minerals diluted 30 to 300, irrigated into soil.
- 52:13 What's in the second and third JADAM fertilizer applications? — Food scraps, urine, and human waste diluted 50 to 500, then fish, bone meal, and calcium fertilizer at the same dilution.
- 54:25 Is it good to dump IMOT into a flooded wetland after rain? — Probably — it's the same microbes native to that area, just cultivated and fed before going back.
- 56:26 What are the two balances Master Cho talks about in farming? — Nutritional balance between microbes and fertilizer, and balance between what's above ground and the roots below.
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In this episode
- 0:00 Welcome and I Ching: The Clinging Fire
- 9:30 IMO Pile Temperature Monitor (ESP8266 + Home Assistant)
- 16:34 Calculating IMO Application Rate Per Acre
- 21:15 Soil Foundation Drench Formula and Timing
- 22:49 Super-Saturating Fermented Plant Juice
- 23:36 Fat vs Carbon for Buffering Pile Temperature
- 27:52 Screw Your Soil: Augering Clay Ground
- 37:50 Structure Spray Timing in Transition to Veg
- 41:44 Intro to the JADAM Book and Madag
- 44:34 Root Knot Nematodes and Predator Nematodes
- 46:58 Leaf Spot and Viral Disease
- 49:08 JADAM Base Fertilizer Recipe
- 50:42 JADAM Additional Fertilizer Dilutions
- 54:25 Dumping IMO Into Wetlands
- 56:26 The Two Balances in Farming
- 1:00:14 Next Week: JADAM Natural Pesticide Preview
Transcript
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0:30 hey good morning welcome to office hours korean natural farming put my collar down don't pop it because i'm not that kind of guy um welcome it is september 15th 2024 um and we're here with the pure knf foundation um making it so that uh we can
1:21 answer any questions you have for natural farming for the next hour and if we don't have any questions for no one that shows up although i think you're gonna show up we'll get to some madadge madadge madadge madadge yeah mark's in the house yeah see so yeah it's always good to have a good good group of folks assemble doing the right things for the world the planet the universe all the good things what's up roe and organic yo yeah um so good morning natural farming family yeah the family's here family i gotta open the window it's hot oh yeah rainbow possum what's up we got seattle in the house
2:07 yeah cool well if you got any questions let me know we got a you know full hour to help you out and uh starting now well actually starting a little bit pakistan karachi awesome man that's cool yeah cool what's up goof man i would like to go to pakistan one day i'd like to go to all the stands man go hang out there and go see the culture i bet you guys got some rich stuff growing some different things than we do yeah that would be cool one day we'll see looks like i'm gonna be going to Maui. Oh my gosh. Wasn't planning on it, but I guess I am. Uh, Farmers Union
2:54 Convention. Anyone going to be there? Anybody? Anybody? Going to Maui October 3rd through the 5th? Mm-hmm. Yeah, the algorithm. Algorhythm. Okay, so, um, so let's go and let's read a bit of higher wisdom before we get too thick into the into the content let's see what is today today is the clinging fire i feel like i gotta lean i gotta put this further toward me so i don't gotta lean over so much it is in the nature of human beings that we are dependent in many ways dependent on water, air, and food for nourishment,
3:46 dependent on shelter for warmth and protection, dependent on each other for family life and friendship. We are also spiritually dependent. When challenges arise, each of us must have some place to turn for guidance and support. The image of Li is that of the fire clinging to the wood that it burns. Without a supply of fuel, there can be no fire. Likewise, a person without spiritual sustenance cannot give off late in dark and challenging times. difficult situations tempt us to doubt the power of humility acceptance and correct behavior
4:36 we long to abandon our inner balance and lash out it is at just such moments that it is most important to cling to what we know to be good and true and correct like fire clings to the log it burns. By doing this, we obtain the aid of the higher power. You're advised to cling to proper principles now. Quietly, willfully, joyfully cling to the possibility of a positive outcome in the situation that faces you. No matter how unlikely it may seem, cling to the good in others,
5:28 even when they are obscured by inferior influences, and cling to the power of the deity to deliver truth where it is needed. Trying times brings us the gift of showing where our devotion to proper principles ends. Deep in that devotion now, cling to truth, acceptance, and independence, and you will meet with success. You can pretty much just summarize that as natural farming in a nutshell. So trust, trust the process, trust that's going to work, trust that, uh, Master Cho and the things
6:16 he's taught us are going to work at the higher wisdom that somehow by doing God's work, we're in touch with God, that, um, you can't do a whole lot. So just stick to the wood you're burning, you know, stick to your own garden, stick to your own neighborhood, make it beautiful, do what you know is right. From there, it'll create enough heat that others will gather around to be like, hey, why are they doing so well? You know, and it's a trial, right? You got to just do do the best you can every moment. So, and you know, here we are, office hours, dependent,
6:55 you know, dependent on air, water, you know, it's just like what Master Cho says, it's the same thing. This is like, you know, ancient book, ancient principles, nothing new. It's all we're doing just trying to explore the mystery of the Tao uh yeah so cool hey yeah cool thank you super chats 50 oh my gosh whoa yes yes yes yes yes yeah you know it takes a lot to keep natural farming alive. I mean, it lives on its own and in its own spirit, but being a champion to hold, hold it down, talk about master chose methods, you know, build a community, be a, you know,
7:44 build all this. You just got to stick to the fire to cling to it, you know? And, um, it's great that people out there appreciate it show up help out do all the good things yeah yeah and it helps out mark man it's like uh you know helping helping veterans man what could be better you know giving us warriors another chance in life to be you know uh warriors in a garden versus gardeners in a war sup we got sal in the house yo brazil so um if you guys got any questions bust them out because otherwise let's see here one sec let me see do i have any questions in the queue
8:30 i know big west was asking about a few things otherwise we could just dive into midage early but you got any burning questions? Anybody, anybody? If not, I could show you one thing, real. Let me, let me get this over there and make this happen. Let's see. So I am about to make another IMO pile, right? Because actually I want to do it for human health in addition to making more IMOs because I need them for my chickens and my pigs and those types of things, I also want to make a
9:16 a IMO pile for human health. Sorry, kind of doing a couple things at once there, kind of nodded off but um i just the other day i've been messing around with home assistant i don't know if anyone's played around with home assistant at all but on this side here i have a home assistant set up so that um i used esp home and um i got my imo buddy hooked up again so what this is this here i don't know if you can see it's kind of covered behind this tape
10:03 to hold these wires in but this here is an esp8266 right here that little board there really easy to work with plug into home assistant through esp home and then all these wires come off and these are they're just um all put here i gotta just undo this but there are four different temperature probes so the idea is that you put one probe one probe in the air and so they have these little wires that come off here and then one probe goes in the air one probe in the core of your pile one pot one on the bottom
10:56 and one on the side of your pile so you have four probes and if we look over here at the esp home let's see i'm gonna turn on my mouse make that a little bit easier to see so you can see right here there's a current readout of all the probes. So one, two, three, four, they're all reading about 80 degrees Fahrenheit right now. And then I can send, I can, so watch if I hold one of these probes, which I'm not sure which one this is, looks like it's labeled three, but we'll see. They're going to update every five seconds or so. So we should see probe three. Yeah,
11:35 see so probe three over here you see how it's starting to go up 85 degrees 87 degrees so hopefully it's going to hit about 90 degrees because i'm just holding it in my hand right here and so what it does is it brings down this information in real time down here um to this dashboard. And then here I can see a pile history. And then also say, and then also it'll give me the max temperatures that happened. So at a certain point, this one here, see it's 86.6. I bet you it'll go up to 91 here in a minute. I'm not sure on what interval it, it, it resets there.
12:20 maybe September 9th. Maybe it's not the right date here. But these will then give me a max or a maximum temperature so I can see if any of these went over 120 degrees or 50 Celsius. You could put this in Celsius, I suppose, if you wanted to. I built it in Fahrenheit because that's what I'm most used to reading. But if you look at this pile history here, I can kind of put it up, and you'll see it's starting probe two starting to go up. Let's see if we can go here, here's this history this way. And you can see this one probe is up here at about 92.2.
13:00 So it took off. The rest of them are tracking there. So the idea is you can track the air temperature. So then you can see the temperature differential between what your pile does. And then here there's also a way to record a pile turning. So if I set this notification on, it notifies my phone when it hits 118 degrees, it sends a warning message to me. And then 120, it sends an overheating text to me. You know, this temperature here, I can set these customized for what it is. And then if I go and say I turn the pile, then I can record a pile turning.
13:39 And then you can see over here, it says the total times the pile's turned is 1. and then if you look at this graph you'll see a pile turning here and so when I then when I look at the history of this you'll be able to correlate pile turnings with temperature and see how the temperature of how turning affects the temperature and this was just I was testing this last night and I turned it a couple times and so this way the IMO buddy through ESPHome can do all this and then I can also just reset the pile, you know, over to zero, which resets the pile count,
14:16 pile turning count. Can you see that? Maybe it's blocked. Am I blocking it? I gotta make this more this way. There, now you can see it. Yeah, so the temperature going up, these things, record a pile turning, reset the pile counter, all these things. So the next IMO pile that I have will be automated with a robot, the, uh, Ohm Assistant, um, ESP 8266 little, little $5 device you can buy off Amazon or your favorite retailer. Um, there's actually a lot of places to get it besides Amazon, but that's where I got mine. Um, and so anyway, uh, we'll see. So hopefully I'll be able
15:00 to do this and see, but, uh, I just built that last night. I had it, I had it working before and I did it with Arduino IDE and had it separate, but I'm going to do it this way. And then I'm going to set up one more thing that is another ESP8266 that's hooked to a buzzer and a vibrator, and then it can buzz and keep that in my house. So if I don't have my phone on me, I can just have a little, and I'm within, um, wifi and or, um, lower range. I can buzz myself with this, but anyway, so this should keep good track of the, um, you know, you want to turn a
15:40 good IMO pile, something like this can help out besides just being out there clinging to goodness, you know, staying, you know, prioritizing this. But if you're a busy person like I am, and you're doing a lot of things and you turn a pile about a half mile away from where you sleep, then something like this is super useful. So I wanted to share that with you as something if you are a, you know, if you are, you know how to put in Raspberry Pis and ESP 32, 8266s and all those things, you could do this too. So I know I had it before, but this time I'm going to actually
16:18 put it into the pile and see it. How do you calculate IMO for one acre? I don't know how. Okay, so that's a good one. So how do you calculate IMO for one acre? The recommended application rate is 1,200 pounds per acre. So let's go to the book because that's probably the easiest way to do this. So I'll transition over here, get the book up. So in the book, there is a part here called building soil foundation. So after you've made your IMOs, it is three pounds per a hundred square feet. So, um, weight is not always the best measurement
17:05 for this because if it's more moist or less moist, it's going to be different. Um, but largely you can estimate about what that is. You know, the main idea of giving you a weight to an area is that you don't want to be over applying or under applying. You want to be pretty much within a sweet spot. So, and so it says this is equivalent to a light dusting over the surface for gardens, or you can concentrate it around a tree. Like if here, if this is a tree and I'm looking at it from above here, then you want to spread it in a donut shape right around
17:43 the tree. You don't want to put the IMOs out here and everywhere around the tree. You want to primarily concentrate them right around a tree. But if you are doing a garden bed, you want to kind of ubiquitously spread it across the surface where you're going to be trying to bring the soil to life what up homie so and then the way to do it is to put out the microbes um and then immediately after drench them with the soil foundation formula so the formulas are right here which the soil foundation formula has food cleanser medicine structure protectors and
18:20 minerals in it so you'd want to make dilute all this properly and then drench it in there so that you would put out 2,000 gallons an acre. So this is probably the most amount you'd ever put out, and this is just in the soil foundation to set this up. It is a lot, or it's a 5-gallon bucket over 100 square feet, and this is a lot. If it's raining, you can probably do less than this, and it's best to put out the IMOs when moisture is expected. You know, it's going to rain, put it out then. And the amount of water is the equivalent of wetting the top quarter inch of soil
19:09 where the microbes have been spread. And if you put the microbes on the very surface, you don't have to turn them in, you don't have to till them, you don't have to put any, in fact, tilling them is counterproductive. And you don't have to put mulch on them, but then watering them. And if you do this in the afternoon time, evening, you know, after the sun is past its hottest part of the day, then the microbes will take that water and will moisten it and they will chase the water down and colonize that top quarter inch of your soil. And that is what's important.
19:45 You know, you want to build the soil foundation. So you want to put out this many microbes, then you want to water them. this is repeated the watering is repeated for seven every seven days for two to four weeks meaning that you should do this uh two to four times so your first time being right when you put your microbes out and then an additional time or an additional three times on a weekly interval you'd only have to spread your microbes once and if you're going to but then you do want to feed them for two to four weeks so that helps them establish the microbes already there but it helps
20:26 that food it helps them get down into your soil helps them bring the soil foundation to life now if you're going to do a liquid tea of this just mix this liquid you don't need nearly as much of this and you can bubble it so you can take a couple pounds a big sack put it in a big tank bubble it up, bubble it really well with all the solutions in there, then add additional solutions and water them out. And the watering application rate of a soil tea to build soil foundation is 2,000 gallons an acre of putting this out. And that would be ideal to establish this through a
21:05 liquid form. So a lot to cover there, but that is the way to put them out there. And that is the calculations here for three pounds, 100 square feet, approximately, it says approximately, I don't know if you can see that, should make it bigger, it says approximately every three pounds per 100 square feet, or approximately 1,200 pounds per acre. So that's how you calculate IMO for an acre. um so another question here quick one do you have to super saturate my faa once it is strained and ready to go um so let's go down to the fuel section fuel fuel here it is fuel and the answer
21:58 is no um there's already you already have super saturated it so you notice here it says it does not say anything about supersaturation. It says filter the liquid through a fine mesh. But you can just kind of continue to leave it in there. And then after you've poured off the liquid, leave the bucket, you'll get more liquid out of it later. And it continues to improve for about three years. So as you're storing it, it still continues to get better. So and no, you don't have to super saturate it. Um, it, it, it's already, um, because you've already added
22:35 so much sugar, you know, 20 pounds of brown sugar, 20 pounds of fish waste. This was already super saturated for you. So no need for that. That is a good question to ask. Um, so let's go down here okay um let's make this window bigger i don't need to see that yeah okay let's see okay uh asking me about moderating i don't need to moderate this outdoor red flashing light yeah red flashing light would probably be a good notification for that IMO buddy for shoes. Um, do you think the high fat content in your IMO3
23:24 substrate would help buffer rising temperatures? I noticed if I make the pile with wheat bran, low fat, higher carb protein, it is hard to predict and manage temps. Um, hmm high fat content would help buffer rising temps i'm not sure if it's high fat i know what buffers the rising temp is more carbon so adding more like like wood chips to your pile would help to buffer it out because carbon acts as a buffer especially putting some biochar in there um i'm not sure about fats in there though. I just, I don't have too much experience with that.
24:10 It's usually more when you're thinking of composting and temperature, usually what makes the temperature rise is nitrogens, fuel, aminos. The, I'm not, I don't know if fats, what role fats play in there. I should probably, I should educate myself, but I don't know. I don't know if you know what are fats are going to be broken down to i mean what is what is a fat anyway let's let's just look up fat who knows what you know never search fat in the internet right oh my gosh i just searched fat but let's see what what is fat even um triglycerides um what is it chemically though
25:02 phospholipids sounds like there's phosphorus in there diglycerides what is fat this is something i'd never you know the more you learn um fatty acids what are fatty acids though are they they're they gotta be omegas they gotta be something right let's see i put this over so You can see what I'm looking at. Fat hydrogenation. What is fat chemically, though? Here it is. It is hydrogen and oxygen, and then what the heck are these bonds? I don't know. I never took organic chemistry.
25:48 I don't know what these are. 18 carbon chains. So there is a bunch of carbon in fat. So yeah, maybe carbon would lower the temperature. Um, 16 and 18 chains. It just looks like they're different sizes of carbon chains. What else is in it? It's just carbon and oxygen. Or hydrogen and oxygen. That's all? Hydrogen, oxygen, and then a double carbon bond to an oxygen? I guess these are all carbon bonds, right? They gotta be. That's what makes... Huh. So, yeah. Maybe fat would buffer it because you're looking for more carbon in its carboxyl groups.
26:34 Let's see. Is there a... Oh, look at that mouse. Yeah, buddy. You do you, buddy. Right on. Emotional damage. Yeah, so here, fat is just master Cho. It's just Cho. hydrogen cho and you know fatty acids triglycerides there and some are hoes some are chose and some are yeah more hoes and some are oh um yeah they're they're just they're just oxygen and oxygen and carbon and carbon and oxygen actually looks like water that's just mixed with carbon interesting you know there's all
27:21 these different things in the world that you uh you learn about but uh yeah let's just go back to that mouse for a second and appreciate him in all his glory damn that guy wow okay um so yeah so i don't know maybe i gotta learn more about that that's uh okay let's see oh yeah i was gonna go over to this here please show me back to the oh there it is open a new tab that's what happens. Okay, so here we go. Okay. I also did the screw your soil method. You have video on
28:14 my heavy clay soil. It worked really good in my grounds. Oh, so yeah, screw your soil. That is another awesome way to do things. So if you go on the channel down below and then you end up end up on a screen like this um there is a screw your soil which let's just look for let's just search for it and we'll just search for screw um and this is what um this is what uh goofman's talking about so so i did this with just a hand drill because this is just like a way to easily um let's mute this um and i made this kind of as a funny thing because i just wanted to talk
28:56 about screwing your soil. Uh, let me, I'll link it in here too. I'll just link it into the chat. Um, but, um, but here I just hooked this little drill to this tiny little tool here, um, a drill head here, and you can just go straight into the soil like this. Cause my, my soil here is, you know, pretty red and dead, uh, in a lot of places. All of this looks pretty nice. There's some perennial peanut there. Um, and my, I've seen that I've seen it just get much better this was this was what four years ago so um and so just a little garden hand
29:35 tool i did i did eventually get a huge auger to run off the tractor and you can do it that way um but this here so what am i doing i'm just screwing in the soil let's make it go a little bit faster here see if i can make it go oh no what just go here like this yeah okay make it go a little bit faster then I'm taking IMOs I think actually that was compost maybe there's some IMO actually I think it's bio is what it is putting that into the ground I think it was a mix of cinder and bio and some IMOs not like you want to bury a whole bunch of IMOs but what I'm trying
30:11 to do is I'm trying to frack the ground and make things so that the roots can reach out because there's no this kava right here these bananas this sugar cane has no reason to reach over here there's no nutrients in that soil right it's just kind of dead soil but as I screw down and make a an air bring oxygen in there by physically digging a hole and then what is it this got to be like the IMO mix that I made yeah look at that so some IMOs some bio I think that's mainly bio from my you can watch the video and see what I actually said but I'm pretty sure that's what it was like
30:51 compost cinder mix adding that into the hole now all that biology is in there and now as it's as they start to aerate in a tube then the the plants are going to reach out so that's another way to do it is to if i wanted this plant to grow and it wasn't very well and i could auger in to clay soils around here i could just auger a whole hole around there and this worked pretty well um but eventually i had to get you know here oh man look how nice that sugar cane was this is way back in the day before. Now I just grazed this area and it's gone crazy before I was trying to keep the
31:26 pigs out and actually farm it. Um, wild how things change. Wow. That whole area is completely like a forest now. So anyway, it ended up, it ended up working to grow a forest. That's for sure. Um, but yeah, this, this technique too. I really like this. This is like small scale, you know, assuming you can one drill, one thing this was cheap, easy did this so, yeah let's see, is there anything at the end of the video? it's just me screwing more of the soil yeah, so anyway, that was fun thanks for bringing that up, goof that was a good time I was able to do that another good way to do it
32:12 there's a wrap in there somewhere lipids squeezing. Yeah, okay. Blew a circuit using a drill auger. Yeah, you gotta watch out. You gotta get the trusted name brand like Ryobi. Or get a, what is it, a hammer, a rotary hammer. Get something with like a big engine on it. by engine I mean motor or or you know there's the other um there's uh what is it um let's see um there's I there's also this kind of auger here let's see um
32:59 instead of just going you know you got to go big or go home and get this like get this 40 volt one on it um oh man 500 though i don't know i i have one of these i know i didn't pay 500 for it there's no way i paid 500 4 amp hour battery oh this is it without it 360 oh you know i when i bought this it was damaged or you get this smaller 18 volt one i don't know that's pretty expensive but inflation what do you expect it's uh it's all it's all going up in price right i can't believe we can still get things this cheap actually but um this thing yeah actually i have one of these
33:46 we use this for putting in post holes but this thing man you can you can do some serious uh i I should make the video again with this thing. It has, you know, up to 30 holes per charge. It's pretty rugged. If you, what the heck, that's a chainsaw he's putting the battery into. Let's see. Yeah, is there any reviews? Yeah, this thing, oh, here's somebody using it in action. Yeah, look at all that dirt just flying off there. um but this yeah this thing is no joke i you know you can use so if you're blowing out your drill
34:27 you know go big i don't know if you want to spend 400 on that but if you did then you would uh you would go through maybe try and find one damaged like i did and then get half price um so yeah screw your soil to the max bro screw your soil and screw you um if i did that i'd end up with quicksand yeah yeah hammer drills the ticket have to rent that yeah gotta love that high water table florida you know just pour tea you know you can also auger the hole and just dump tea down make like little tunnels into the soil and then dump the tea like just pour your compost like fill it with
35:12 cinder or, yeah, cinder, I guess, or sand, and then just dump IMO-T down those holes once you made them. And they're kind of like little mini portals into the underworld to make things better. All those good ideas, you know. So thanks for that. Those are good, you know, ways to, ways to put IMOs out there better, more efficiently. And then I also, you know, I used to do it, but I don't do it anymore is three-point auger. And I ended up using something like this at the end. This thing right here. Three-post hole digger and auger not included. Yeah. And we used to bury fish in the ground
35:58 using this thing here. This thing right here. So this thing runs off the back of the tractor like this and you can dig nice holes no problem except for when you hit rocks and then the the spindle breaks but better than breaking your pto off um yeah so we ended up yeah look at that it just the only the only problem with this thing is it didn't have downward pressure on the three point or at least my three point doesn't push down my three point only spins so if i did it on any grass it would just spin because I couldn't force the auger to go down maybe if I put like a heavy
36:37 weight on there or something it would work better then it would get wrapped around the spindle um yeah that's what I'm talking about so anyway I ended up doing this but now I just this thing I haven't been using it it's just been sitting in the shed and I haven't been using this nor have I been using the post hole digger I haven't been screwing my soil lately I need to get off my get off my computer and screw my soil. Anyway, those are great things to go over. Let's shift gears here. And let's go into Madag time. Madag time. It's time for Madag.
37:25 So if you haven't been keeping up with the office hours, I did just upload all the office hours to knfsupport.com and caught up with that. So they should all be there from, so last episodes, everything there, this whole year, 2024, any episode in 2024, the last half hour, 20 minutes we've been discussing Medaj. So let's jump into it. um oh yeah fill the holes with biochar good idea um oh and before we get into madash let's answer this one last question here it says what is the minimum time gap between two structure
38:07 applications and transition phase to veg please um the thing about natural farming solutions in the correct ratio, meaning that if you are following these ratios, let me zoom out a little bit. Can I zoom out? If you are following these ratios here, listed here, so if you were just applying structure and you're just going and putting calcium phosphate out there, you're probably going to cause somewhat of an imbalance. You can just use it by itself, but you're probably going to cause some imbalance. But here you'll notice that in the bloom phase, which is what
38:52 you're talking about, it would have food, cleanser, medicine, structure, fuel, protectors, and minerals, all at these ratios right here. And it would be balanced. And then you could potentially go and spray this every day or every other day or every three days or but that's a lot of time and energy and effort and are you going to see the results from doing it that often maybe the one thing you you know as long as you're you're misting it at the correct application rate which is 25 gallons per acre of misting this stuff onto the leaf surface you're probably
39:33 going to have amazing results. Now, the recommended application rate for this is, or frequency, the application frequency, the rate is 25 gallons per acre. So you kind of got to figure out what that is. But on a smaller scale, you can just, you know, ask chat GBT or something. Or do the math yourself, learn, you know, do some algebra, bring back, you know, ninth grade into focus. But the recommended frequency is every seven to 11 days. So what is the minimum time gap is essentially every day. You can do it every day. That's the minimum time gap.
40:21 The recommended time gap is between seven and 11 days. Why between seven and 11 days? because that's when a plant is going to throw a new leaf out. It's going to go through its growth phase. So if you actually look here at the application rates, you would take when you're going to harvest your plant and you divide it up like this, where you'd have chubby, skinny, chubby, skinny, puberty, puberty, chubby, skinny, chubby, skinny, chubby, skinny. And so if you say this is 270 days, I should probably just make an app for this.
40:57 but you say this is like 270 days 100 days 80 days whatever here you then divide it in half and one third and then put number your days into this and you will find out when you should start doing this puberty fit this this bloom part of it and when you should stop and when you should oscillate between leaf and fruit and when you should make your food out of ripe fruits and when you should make your food out of growth tips and when you should make your food out of flowers and unripe food and all this. So, um, but to answer your question, simply the minimum is every day.
41:36 The maximum is, um, you know, seven to 11 days is best. And if, and if you're on an orchard and you're on a bigger thing, then spraying it quarterly or monthly or whatever you can afford. and you'll notice the results. You will see that when you spray it, you do it. And when you don't, you have the results of that. So with that, it is Madag time. It is Madag time. Yeah, Madag, Madag, Madag. Yeah, the document. This document is the book, by the way. this document right here, this, this is what I'm referencing. This is, this is the book.
42:23 So this book is at knfsupport.com. So if you go here and you go to knfsupport.com, which is brought to you by the Pure K&F Foundation, you can go right here and get the book. You can download it. It actually, oh, I got to answer labs from colostrum milk. That's not a good idea. Um, colostrum is just so gnarly. Um, I mean, it's good, but it's gnarly to make lab out of. Um, so you can download the book with the updates. You can download the hard cop or you can get a hard copy sent to you, or you can download the current version. Um, so that's the
43:00 book here. KNF or KNF support.com. We'll link you to it. So, Oh, there's the mice still. that's amazing okay so anyway let us let us transition now if i can get the right screen here to my dadge and we ended up somehow here on root not nematode what is he getting into i don't know we're at slide 145 though which looks like we're about halfway through oh my gosh i gotta speed up to get through this this year i gotta finish it this year we were going and we're looking at junk roots. We're looking at good roots. I think we were doing application. Yeah, this is when you
43:38 put the IMOs out the way you're supposed to, you could potentially get a bloom like this when you cover it all over. This by use of JMS, I highly doubt this was JMS. I think he's just pinching off his dad's IMO. I highly doubt you would get something like this to bloom with JMS unless you put a bunch of fish stuff out there. But anyway, we were getting through the application. I was, you know talking about the doubtful things here this looks these clumps look clearly like IMO 4 I think he's just pinching off his dad and trying to say that he did all this when he didn't
44:12 but when you do put the IMOs look at those nice root hairs look at this nice root growth when you don't put it it just looks terrible look how look at the difference in the moisture content of the soil and the soil quality and this is when you don't do that dead-ass roots and then when you do it the roots will reach deeper and deeper you can see where the IMOs are doing really well and where they need to penetrate down and this will bring them down into the soils and then I don't know what this is this is just IMOs good mulch put on top cover
44:45 crops good things like that now we're on to root knot nematode what the heck um so So root knot nematode here and wilt. Oh, yeah. So if you're seeing this above, probably your roots look like this below. And you got a bunch of root knot nematodes. What do you do? Do you spray a nemicide? No, no, no, no. You just put good IMO4. Because root knot nematodes are the favorite nematode of predator nematodes. So nematodes that eat other nematodes, root knot are their favorite food source to eat. so but in order for predator nematodes to go through the soil they're bigger and you just
45:29 need to make the soil more aerated to get the root to get the predator nematodes in your area and they will come naturally if they can move around so you need to aerate your soil by putting IMOs not just tilling tilling will kill them but putting IMOs in there and making sure there's enough of an environment for the predator nematodes to be in there so um so make it the situation conducive to predator nematodes and then you will avoid things like this where this plant has died off and this also probably probably root problems probably root problems here
46:11 the roots are dying off when you just have a random thing dying. Also, this black plastic ain't helping. Viral disease? Okay, this, you know, if you spray the good IMOT protectors, good things on there, this will go away. And yeah, because this one only suffering right there. So this this is the case where you need to put an imot out there onto this and that will go away um virus disease this clumping it's also you know uh good good soils and then you just feed your plant directly and you will hopefully avoid something like this although as a tomato this
46:58 plant's probably probably going to have a hard time growing out of that at that point zone 8 leaf spot. This also if you sprayed this weekly directly up onto the foliage with those teas that I was talking about the solutions that are outlined there you probably wouldn't have this. And so he's saying that the leaf spot is destroying the conventional farm left but untouched right because of number 14. So what is number 14 that he's referencing? It's in the book here. What is number 14? He's saying 14 is herbal smoker. I don't know if he's talking about that.
47:40 Maybe he changed the numbers at a certain point. Maybe he used the herbal smoker though. Bro, you just smoke the herb and then your plants get better. I don't know. Anyway. but again microorganisms and putting the right nutrition out there and you're going to avoid most diseases like this many people will get a disease like this and they will try to kill the disease which will only further push them into more disease causing environments and situations versus if you have a disease you just feed the good things feed the plants feed the good things
48:18 put good life out there and you will overcome your disease. So, uh, that's just, you know, rule number one, cling to the fire instead of trying to go out and kill things, just light a fire, herbal smoke on them. Okay. Okay. So we're getting through that. I don't know what all those things are about too much, just diseases and things. I'm sure he talked about it a lot in his lectures, which you can find at my channel below. Subscribe, like, share, you know share and you know people rarely share my stuff i say share and i think you guys are just
48:51 like he's not talking to me he's talking to somebody else somebody else will share it it's like no each of you every every single one of you go take a video from my feed today go pick your favorite video from my channel and share it on a social media man come on i'm talking to you specifically. You. You. Okay. The rule, fill up with the same thing. Okay. So I think these are just his principles. Okay. Fill up with the same thing. It sounds like put the same plant back on the same plant, I would imagine. So base fertilizer, put these on the soil, wild grass cover crop,
49:31 crop residue and herbivorous livestock manure so those would be the things that would naturally be out there right if you think of it in a natural field there's a wild grass cover crop underneath there is crop residue because the leaves from that own plant is falling down where that plant is growing and then some sort of herbages livestock is going to walk by and take a dump right yeah you thomas go out there and share bro come on um so this just makes sense right this is just studying nature what's right there is um you know
50:13 wild grass crop residue and poop from whatever was chilling right there right so put those back in right make your fertilizer out of that and he's saying just take these soak them in water like be previously covered and then dump them out there at the right ratios make sure you dilute them enough because they are filthy and nasty and gross and then so the next thing he's saying first addition first additional fertilizer so take these things irrigate them into the soil so he says take the microbe solution the medag microbe solution the mms and i'll either a 10 to 100 dilution
50:49 somewhere in there depending on how wet your soil is and how nearly it rained how recently it rained dilute that and dump it in there and then put in also the wild grass crop residue things seawater and phylight solutions so minerals rock minerals out there and make these a 30 to 300 dilution so at about excuse me one uh a third of what you put in there previously right this is a little bit stronger the microbes a bit stronger and this one third of what's in there right i think 300 parts i think yeah yeah yeah so it's lighter dilution there or lighter concentration
51:38 heavier dilution lighter concentration um so add this as your first time you just dump the crap out of it. Then second additional fertilizer, irrigate into the soil again. This one you're using a little bit more proteinaceous things. So food scrap, the urine and the human crap. Again, you're, uh, you know, use your discretion with human crap. Uh, but he's saying, you know, if you read before and you're paying attention, it was like you, you can get all this from a family household and have enough fertilizer to grow everything by just crapping and peeing and
52:13 throwing your leftovers in the right place, right? If you have a dog, they're probably going to eat all this stuff before you can put it out there. But these are, again, these are stronger, so you're going 50 to 1 to 500 dilution. And make sure, and also the reason to dilute these more is they also have a ton more pathogens in them. These are gnarly, and you know, be careful with these, I'm telling you, be careful. But again, so then, then he would do a third fertilizer, uh, with you irrigate into the soil again, don't, he says, irrigate these in the soil. He's not saying to
52:52 put this on your plant because all these things will, ah, they're so nasty. They'll hurt your plant. Be careful. He says, irrigate into the soil from fish fertilizer, bone meal fertilizer, calcium fertilizer etc 50 to 500 dilution so i'd be super careful at a 50 dilution for this um you're gonna get some gnarly burns out there um but again he you know i just uh he's like you know you don't follow npk formula and here he is then following npk formula i tell you what you're better off to just do master cho's stuff and just make these solutions and just do this
53:32 make these things your dilutions way uh you know you can use way less of this stuff and follow these formulas and do this prescription here like you know or just this prescription here like you yeah you're so much better off in a thousand ways to do this but anyway if you don't have it and this is cheap and this is just a nasty way of it's a super crude way of doing it um you're just so much better to do master chose stuff he just he just didn't understand his father's stuff yeah i'm not comfortable with with um jadam the madad solutions me either bro
54:10 they're nasty uh you know i would only i would do it in like a grid down scenario where it's like i can't get sugar and all that but if we got sugar do master chose those i'm just covering this for like you know to show the crudeness so that can still be approached to natural farming and still get results. I think it's gnarly, but, um, do I think it would be beneficial to dump an IMOT into a flooded area and wetlands after a rain? Um, probably, uh, you know, I've had, I've had some woke people yell at me for saying that you're going to put microbes, cultivate them and put them
54:45 back in the forest. They're like, what if you're going to disturb the forest? And I'm like, it's the same microbes that were in the forest. We're just feeding them and putting them back. I mean, it's just like taking homeless people out the straight, feeding them, and then putting them back, they're probably going to be better off. I mean, it depends. You don't want to get them dependent on the food and whatever. I mean, there's, maybe that wasn't the best analogy. Um, but, you know, educating them and then putting them back. It's like, yeah. So anyway, uh, user discretion.
55:10 Um, yeah, yeah, you, yeah, yeah. They do that with Bokashi EME, EME, pretty commonly yeah yeah yeah you know just taking the microbes going and dumping them like this i mean actually truly truly these solutions here like the one the another reason to cover the medag is these solutions here are literally if we're gonna have to save the entire world and bioregenerate the entire world these are the ones we can afford if we're all using sugar to do things and we're all following master chose methods there's just not enough resources there
55:47 we'd have to use this to grow the sugar and then from this then we could you know so at some point we're going to have to use these solutions. So it's worth learning them. It's just like, you know, do you want to eat stuff that you put human feces on and urine and food scratch? I mean, it's just gnarly. Um, it's just gnarly. Anytime, you know, young song offers you like a piece of lettuce, you're like, okay. So he says farming is all about balance. Thank God it is. It is. life is all about balance believe it or not um and farming is just uh pretty good uh you know
56:26 life so it's all about balance look at it from balance's perspective then it becomes easy yes exactly that's all i'm ever promulgating is balance and certain solutions to make that easier um with a fan blowing air underneath so it doesn't become anaerobic no you still got to turn it though. And turning it, you can't just hack it to say a fan blowing underneath. It's just, it's not going to work out for you. You still got to turn it. There's a bunch of reasons why the original recipe is the way it is. Still got to turn it. There's no way to make it easier.
57:05 It's about balance, man. Fan blowing underneath is imbalanced. Okay. So nutritional balance is achieved through microbial balance and fertilizer balance. Totally. Just like your gut health, makes your ultimate health and your food you put in makes your ultimate health right your guts plus your food and nutritional that is that represents your nutrition how healthy are you right is through both those so if you're just putting a bunch of nutrients out there but you don't have the right microbes it will not work and if you just have a lot of microbes out there but not
57:41 the right foods going in it won't work so nutrition health is a balance between microbes and fertilizer no doubt this makes total sense upper part of the plant and its lower part root should be in balance yes totally this is the same thing you see a guy a muscle man he gets so strong he works just on his chest and then he can't run or swim or do anything and it's like oh my gosh or someone that just runs and swims and then you have them try to lift heavy weight they can't do it so same you got to train both the upper and lower parts to be in balance same like the plant
58:19 so often we just focus on what's above the ground is it green is it big is it pushing and we have a plant in a tiny pot and being like why isn't it responding to this and we see it it's like you got to care about the roots as much as you care about the top and in fact care about the roots more. Yeah, Kimbo slice. I don't know who that is, but there are two balances that you should look at. Once you grasp this, complicating farming will become so easy. These are the two balances. Okay, so nutritional balance and above ground, below ground balance. So as above, so
59:05 below and as within so without right this isn't this just like classic alchemy isn't this like since forever in the textbooks of the masters right so within so is out as above so below it's like yeah it's just alchemy here i mean we're just talking about the two balances and it and once you understand that it's easy maybe that's why i'm good at it i'm pretty i try to stay as balanced as possible and just egoically talk about it online um so we will next time get into jadam natural pesticide so after talking so much about balance and just doing it right we're going to
59:47 talk about hacks and cheats to get there with madadge natural pesticide um so making madadge natural pesticide is as easy as cooking rice. So tune in next week and you will learn it's as easy as cooking rice. Anybody can become a natural pesticide expert. Yeah, I should just make a badge on my shirt that says natural pesticide expert. The tools and methods are simple. Ultra low cost natural pesticides opens a whole new world. Yeah. So we're going to open Aladdin's lamp and a whole new world with ultra low natural pesticides next time so get ready uh this week do
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