Fixing Iron Water with BMW, Humanure Fertilizer, Banana Potassium
Drake opens with his fall and winter plans: two natural farming classes coming in November and January, a big hydroelectric build for power resilience, and a bigger shift into rotational cattle grazing. His drone spraying is paying off too — 15 flights over 62 acres and 10.35 hours so far, including 6.7 acres covered with 92.68 gallons in under an hour on October 20.
On rotational grazing, the rule is to let cattle eat only the top third of the grass, then move them to the next paddock until it fully regrows. He's running six cows on eight acres and wants to push toward double or triple that as his pastures improve.
For iron-contaminated well water, instead of a $12,000 filter system, Drake recommends building your own agricultural mineral water (BMW/AMW) setup: a 120 cm pond lined with vinyl, with water recirculated as a waterfall over rocks and IMOs, or simply aerating the water into a settling pond so the iron gases off. He also discusses a study where chitosan-coated substrate removed hexavalent chromium from water, though he's not certain it works the same on iron.
For humanure and urine, Master Cho's method is excrement plus half its weight in water, a yeast starter (cultivated on grapes or rice bran), fermented 4-5 days, matured a week, then diluted 30-50 times and combined with IMO or FPJ. For yellowing banana leaves, he says add more potassium, let leaves brown fully before trimming, then burn them and use the ash water as a potassium spray. He also breaks down his drone, a DJI Agras T40 that carries up to 50 kilos and sprays 12 liters a minute.
Questions answered
- 10:27 What are your fall and winter plans, personal and for the channel? — Two KNF classes in November and January, a big hydroelectric project for power resilience, and shifting more into rotational cattle grazing with drone spraying.
- 27:19 How do you do intensive rotational cattle grazing? — Let cattle graze only the top third of the grass, then move them to the next paddock until it fully regrows before grazing again.
- 33:11 Iron in my well water is scorching banana leaves — without a $12,000 filter, what can I do? — Build your own agricultural mineral water system: recirculate the water over rocks and IMOs in a waterfall to biologically clean and balance it.
- 40:24 How do you ferment urine and humanure into liquid fertilizer? — Follow Master Cho: mix excrement with half its weight in water, add a yeast starter, ferment 4-5 days, let it mature a week, then dilute it 30-50 times.
- 46:43 How do I deal with iron-rich well water? — Aerate it and run it through a settling pond so the iron gases off, similar to running it through a BMW system.
- 47:47 What is Master Cho's yeast recipe? — He cultivates yeast from grapes as a starter to break down sugars in ferments like humanure.
- 49:08 Can chitosan clean up heavy metals like chromium or iron in water? — A Malaysian study found chitosan-coated substrate removes hexavalent chromium from water; Drake isn't sure it works the same on iron.
- 55:19 Why are my banana leaves yellowing, and should I clip them off? — Bananas pull potassium from older leaves as fruit forms, so add more potassium, and let leaves brown fully before removing and burning them for ash.
- 57:56 Does chitinase kill beneficial fungi along with the bad guys? — Probably not fully benign, since fungal cell walls contain chitin too, so Drake prefers building chitinase naturally through KNF IMOs.
- 1:03:27 How many gallons does the drone spray per acre, and how long does the whole process take? — About 92 gallons over 6.7 acres at 12-25 gallons per acre, roughly an hour of flight time plus prep for a 6-hour IMO brew.
- 1:08:20 What drone are you using for spraying? — A DJI Agras T40 that carries up to 50 kilos, sprays 12 liters a minute, and has obstacle-avoidance radar.
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In this episode
- 0:00 Countdown
- 1:48 Intro
- 2:29 Welcome to Office Hours
- 3:08 I Ching Reading: After Completion
- 7:06 Chatting with Viewers
- 10:27 Fall and Winter Plans
- 15:39 Pastures Improving with Drone Spraying
- 21:58 Winter Plans for Channel and Foundation
- 27:19 Intensive Rotational Cattle Grazing
- 33:11 Fixing Contaminated Water with Agricultural Mineral Water
- 40:24 Urine and Humanure as Liquid Fertilizer
- 46:43 Dealing with Iron-Rich Water
- 47:47 Master Cho's Yeast Recipe
- 49:08 Chitosan Cleans Up Heavy Metals
- 55:19 Fixing Potassium Deficiency in Bananas
- 57:56 Chitinase vs IMOs
- 1:03:27 How Much We're Spraying Per Acre
- 1:07:07 Chitin
- 1:08:20 The Drone Product We're Using
- 1:10:45 Thanks Folks
Transcript
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2:00 Outro Music Hey, good morning, good day, good time to be together. Welcome to Korean Natural Farming Office Hours for October 22nd, 2023.
2:46 It's a beautiful day here in Hawaii. Sun is shining, ocean is glistening. Looking out at the beautiful Pacific. Peace. It's good. um it's good to see you all from all over the world tuning in so let's i'll start here with a little higher wisdom here get into um what we got going so today today oh oh well well today is after completion number 63 water over fire and it says good fortune unfolds
3:32 for those who remain on guard against inferior influences this hexagram indicates that a movement from chaos to order is complete the time is extremely favorable and you are likely to enjoy much success as long as you heed the warning of chichi. Remain on guard against incorrect thoughts, attitudes, and actions both in yourself and in others. We arrive in a beneficial situation by following the path of correct conduct.
4:17 When we have achieved success or we are close to it, it is in our nature to want to relax and allow the ego to bask in glory. If you revert to this sort of carelessness now, you will undo all you have worked to build. It is important not to become indifferent to spiritual details at this time. If a thought or action even borders on incorrectness, discard it, return to the path of the sage immediately. One minute we dip our toe in incorrectness, the next minute we're swimming in it, the next we drown.
5:04 Therefore, it's wiser to simply keep our toes dry in the first place. you are also counseled to remain alert to inferior influences in others you can only prevent misfortune by anticipating them in advance and this is achieved through watchfulness the image of chichi is that of a kettle of water boiling over a fire the power is great here but it is lost if one allows the water to boil over or evaporate through carelessness and indifference alertness and conscientious
5:53 adherence to what is correct are called for if you wish to prolong your good fortune now yeah so what could be better chaos has returned to order um you know good things are lining up but we just gotta keep keep on the right path and it's it's great to see you all here it's great to be here another sunday morning doing office hours um last night i ended up just going to sleep early um i was gonna go out to a friend's house long long time friend invited me over for an october fest
6:41 to grill some some wieners and you know pretend like we're uh you know germans doing october fest I guess. And I was just so tired from long week here on the farm that decided to rest up. And here I am feeling pretty darn good this morning. You know, feeling good to do this. So we got Kathleen coming in from South Carolina. Hopefully you met up with Ben, learned some good KNF. It's always good to have somebody that's been doing it, trained, spreading the word, getting people out there hopefully you guys were able to talk about the project with the horses
7:25 really really think there's a huge huge potential there of getting the equines uh into the natural farming those things and uh last week you know plenty super chats this week already i i started to tune in uh before i even got here this morning marty raspberry already had dropped uh $20 super chat so you the generosity today continuing it's just it's good it empowers me to stay um stay focused stay doing this stay enthusiastic seeing everybody tune in you know it's it's uh it's good stuff um and um before we get into marty's question we'll just
8:13 you know cecily up in the uk and that must have been a long flight from uh australia western australia all the way to the uk maybe you went around the uh i don't know the flat earth shortcut if there is one i'm pretty sure that's just a far flight no matter how you get there we got andrew coming in from poland cheryl from idaho sup cheryl thanks for the super chat amazing you're so generous i really appreciate it and um solar gourmet from germany sup we um we just had some german folks staying here at the airbnb um it was this this guy he
8:59 used to be a runner but then his knees kind of blew out so he started bike riding and he wanted to ride his bike from i think the ocean all the way to the top of mauna loa or excuse me mauna Maunakea. Yeah, the mountain I'm on, Maunakea. And he, you know, it's 4,000 meters or 14,000 feet, basically 13,000, 14,000 feet somewhere in there. And I'm not sure he made it or not. I got to check in with him. I think he checks out today. But Germans around the world doing amazing things. and George in the house what's up? Good to see from you man, hope things are going good in Latvia
9:44 seems like things are upbeat there and thank you Bird, coming from just over the river here getting in okay, no joke, hey y'all, what's up Robert Charles, he's waking up, I think oh the the wokeness of um natural farming i uh you know understanding these solutions seeing them uh opening your eyes to the solutions they offer and the peace it brings and all that good stuff so it's cool um so marty was asking me um sending good vibes this beautiful fall day
10:34 what are my fall and winter plans personal and the channel so fall and winter plans it's a little bit different here in Hawaii because we don't necessarily like with the seasons change you know the days are getting shorter for sure um it's it's actually it's incredible how much how short the day gets where it's like oh you know it's dark at like six o'clock now instead of seven, seven 30. Um, and it's like, man, everything else I wanted to do, I can, you know, I gotta be, can't just like wait till the afternoon
11:13 to go and get things done because it'll start to get dark on me. So I got to start things earlier. So, um, but my main things this fall and winter, two things, well, one, one is I definitely, I got my my class coming up so really looking forward to that um November and then January those two courses if you're interested in taking them can of farm been getting a lot of last minute signups which is good um you know I can consider it last minute because I started putting it out like six months ago or whatever and I was like I'm always like I wonder if people are going to
11:52 sign up but they always do at the last minute and it's like so it's great um getting getting that together um also some of my uh some of my good friends um just um they're actually moving out from hawaii they're gonna head back to america i think go to utah or north carolina they're they're trying to figure out where they're gonna go here um and they may be getting evicted from their place early not evicted but the house is selling so they got to move out so i think they may be staying with us a bit so have some good friends on the farm which will be nice to um
12:35 do some projects with them um they they took my natural farming class actually 2020 um just um And, you know, so they've been doing some natural farming. He grows kava across the street. So that's a good thing. And then my also, you know, besides the class, besides friends here, I've been working on a huge infrastructure project here. You know, trying to get carbon neutral. Yeah, right. by, you know, putting in a hydroelectric system, which has been just a huge, huge, huge, huge project. Just so much to, you know, it's way bigger project than I thought, but making steady,
13:30 continual progress on that. And I think it's funny because I talk about it like carbon neutral. It's like, okay, so sure, I'm now no longer, you know, getting electricity. I mean, we have solar and we a battery and or you know you could potentially plug into the grid and get naphtha from indonesia that powers majority of the island right we burn diesel basically naphtha it's a grade of petroleum between diesel and kerosene and that's what powers majority of the island there's a little bit of geothermal there's some hydroelectric but but vast majority of the power
14:10 comes from naphtha or you know in my case we put in this hydroelectric and we get off you know off grid off the off the thing but if you think like oh that's the future everyone should do this it's like there's so much energy in the pipes and the manufacturing and the transportation of that in the fossil fuels that there's no way that we could produce the piping and all that without the fossil fuels so it's actually just a different type of fossil fuel subsidization but regardless Plus, you know, investing in that, putting that in is a huge project.
14:46 Enable the farm to be more power resilient, which means more freezers, more dehydrators, more value adding to the produce we grow. And then other thing that I've been working on this fall winter season is I've been really switching over to ranching a whole lot. So figuring out how to get the property so that I can rotate the cattle properly so that, you know, they're maintaining the grass, that the fertility is increasing, that I'm sequestering more carbon. You know, I talk about the carbon. It's not,
15:28 it's really about, you know, more water storage, more, you know, carbon to absorb more pollutions out of the atmosphere, all those things. And that, the ranching dovetails into the drone operation. So I've been flying the drone and really making my pastures fertile. You know, I'm really starting to see the difference. Um, again, it's hard to kind of quantify these observations, but, um, but I, I can tell you it looks, the grass just looks better. I mean, we're coming, you know, there's seasonal change of the, um, of, you know, the grass, the timing of the grass is different.
16:21 um, you know, how, how it's going, what it's doing. Um, but it's starting to just look better. And here I'll transition over to this side. Maybe, maybe we can do, maybe we can do this, this one, this one. Yeah, it'll show. So here, here's the, um, here's the drone record. And actually I skipped last week, unfortunately, and the week prior, like, but I've been doing it pretty consistently once a week. I did miss this week and I did miss this week. So, but it is making a difference, you know, been operating 15 days so far covered 62 acres, put 10.35 hours on
17:03 the drone. And this past week on the 20th, which was what Friday, we put out 6.7 acres worth of spray, which was 92.68 gallons, took us just under an hour, looks like, of flight time, which there's more to it than just that the flight time, you know, is only the time the drone's in the air. A fair amount of the time, I mean, not a fair, but it lands, and then as quickly as we can fill the drone back up and swap a battery and wait for the RTK fix, it's doing it, Um, but I've been operating, let's see. So here was the flight that I flew the other day.
17:48 And, um, so usually I start over here, down here, which, uh, I don't know if you guys, hang on, let me, let me do one thing here. No, I'm just going to make my mouse a little bigger so it's easier to see. um pointer control oh where is it display okay pointer size there we go okay i'll just make this a little bit bigger so it's easier to see but usually usually i start um over here and usually i start with this banana project that we're doing here but last time because of the how the day was going we started over here so i flew over here first then loaded it back on you know flew from
18:35 this area right here. This is where I'm sitting right now in this office, and I load the drone. We have a little tank that we fill with all the solutions, 55-gallon drum right out front, fill that up, and then fly the drone over. It does all these pastures, these areas. For some reason, the house feel that the remote control shut down. I tried to resume this flight, but it resumed it weird and actually doubled up what it did versus flying the other parts. And then we drove it, you know, I drive it around here, around the road, up into here.
19:11 And then from this area, we're flying all these pastures, taking care of this banana patch here, trying to take care of that bunchy top. And then all the banana patches in here, taking care of that bunchy top in here. And it's actually, it's looking like it's really, really working well. And I think the banana patches are recovering. I should get up there and take some photos of that. But I think here, if I look at this, this will show every flight I've done. No, is it just that day? It's just that day. Okay, well, anyway, it's been going good, though.
19:55 I've been putting out six acres with about 93 gallons. you know 95 somewhere in there of what we've been covering out um and so basically getting really good coverage um some some areas let's not do that let's do this here so some some areas i'm getting coverage where i'm spraying master chose recommended um amount of 25 gallons per acre and then others I'm doing half what Cho recommends so about 12 12 acres per gallon so um so you know I'm just going to continue doing that I I don't know I mean throughout the winter
20:39 maybe next year my grass will be like 10 feet tall maybe I can take on more cattle in fact I mean that's actually kind of my goal is right now I'm grazing about eight acres and I got six cows. Yeah, six cows out there. So, you know, and it's usually, I think the recommended thing is about two acres per cow or at least one acre per cow here in Hawaii. But I'm going to try and see if I can get, you know, double that up, maybe even triple that up and get even more cows out there. You know, because the faster I can mob graze an area, get the grass down, get their manure on
21:16 there. Last week, we talked all about the green grass liquid fertilizer and how important that is. And, you know, so the more I can do this, the more fertile I can get the grass, the more I can get these solutions out there. You know, it's just going to make my the land better and absorb more pollution and make cleaner water flowing into the ocean, all these things. So So hopefully, you know, we'll make some observations and move on from the, you know, the research phase to actually like putting this out and helping more farmers out. So we'll see. And then other than that, winter time goals.
22:03 You know, for the channel, we do have some videos in the pipeline. it's a matter of me sitting down and cranking them out it's been hard just I got to get motivated to do it and just put put together some good videos all those things foundation has good things lined up we have a lot of good things in the pipeline coming through it's just just slow and steady I mean I think that's the way to make good things that last is slow and steady versus rushing and trying to force some things really quickly and just, you know, continue persistent effort toward
22:40 growing KNF community, extending relationships, maintaining things, you know, all that nature. Nature is kind of slow and it's going, but that's the way it goes. We got Northern Thai guy in the Thai guy, garden guy in the house. What's up? Man, I've been watching your YouTubes and seeing what you've been doing it's it's pretty cool love love how you're integrating all those things appreciate a good youtube channel someone who's putting back into the community um vance from mitiwonga ohio what's up we got hawkaiyo taos some some wood burls some burly wood burls oh i need to
23:24 work out more in fact yeah that's what i should be doing should be uh working out so it's like one of those before and after pictures here i am before winter see where i am after did i actually work out or not i can tell you said sometimes on it you got to be strong to be on a farm if you're weak um you just can't do things you know i've been but but i also have big brain right so instead of using big brawn i've been using like winches and mechanical advantage and you know having a big brain helps too um mitchell what's up i'm glad you're here live and uh diving
24:04 in on john levi's page yeah man what a mind trip that is um john levi he always drops a video on sunday comes out for me like sunday late night i usually end up watching it sunday morning usually right after this, I end up watching John Levi tripping out into another universe. Mark, what's up, Bridgeron? Dude, I think about you all the time, man. I'm always so thankful for you and your influence here and just, you know, the Gandalf and all those good things. Stonemason in the house. Yeah, it's great to have Indiana here. Midwest, yo. Jonathan Mitchell, what's up?
24:48 So I will get up to do a few more photos up on the bunchy top and see and fly the drone over. I was, I was kind of, um, I was meaning to do it weekly and then I accidentally, um, crashed the drone into the trees and, um, ended up not, you know, having some, some technical flight issues cause it doesn't have RTK on it. So it doesn't fly. It can be off by like 20 feet from where it thinks it is. So, and so if you're flying it autonomously, low altitude, it's real dangerous it crashed twice so i'm fix that up get that thing at a higher altitude spin
25:31 around because that's really the research i'm supposed to be doing for the foundation but i've been dropping the ball um and kathleen here saying we teach many classes at the horse farm can't wait to introduce the children and adults to knf ben is open to teaching classes when he returns from Arizona. We had a great meeting last Sunday. Cool. Cool. Yeah. You know, I'm turning an IMO pile there and getting people to get into that. You know, it's kind of, I don't always recommend that you dive into IMO first when you're teaching because it's pretty complex, but I know that the IMOs
26:09 will be good for those horses, especially for their hoof health. You know, just everything around there. So, um, Greg Judy, regenerative rancher is a great source for your livestock management needs. Yeah. Um, yeah, I haven't looked in Greg Judy. The drone path is called Greta. My, my, my drone's name is Greta Thunberg. Um, because I was like, how dare you? No. Um, It's just like I thought, you know, if there's anything Greta needs to know about KNF and natural farming because it's just like it's where it's at, you know.
26:58 It's the climate change solution. Let me see here. I'm looking up something on here where I'm looking up. um i had a video um cattle let me see oh yeah yeah here um so on my youtube here um transition this over so on my youtube there is a video here um it's called intensive rotational cattle grazing and um here is the video um so this guy uh this was a cattle man but he was talking about basically grass management and i a long time ago i took this course on rotational grazing
27:50 um and he was talking about you know basically you know um if you leave the cattle in there too long, they'll bite down too much of your grass, which will then make the roots slough. And so you got to balance out these things. And let's see here. So I don't think I got too much of his class, but I did get his field explanation, it looks like, where we went out into the field and we were looking at these different ranchers operations, where we're looking at the different grass, the management. But my main takeaway was that, you know, from this, which, you know,
28:30 so I can, I'll link this, drop this in our chat here. So it'll link you to that video. But this guy, you know, the basic idea that I learned from him, the main takeaway I got was that basically in the rotational grazing is that, you know, you think of your grass in thirds, thirds, you want the cattle to graze the top third, leave the bottom two thirds, and then move the cattle to the next paddock so they don't come back until that grass has regrown into its full thing. And then they graze the top third and then you move them into the next paddock.
29:07 You don't ever want them to come and take off the next, like, eat it down two thirds or eat it down wholly to the ground. That'll ruin your grass. But you always want them to eat the top third. and so you got to figure out how many cattle for how big of an area to how fast your grass is growing to how many paddocks you have and all this math calculation of understanding like um you call them like cattle units or something or um cow units or something like so you measure how many cow units you know how much how fast do the cows eat it um and then you move them and that's
29:42 that's basically what i've been doing as i've been switching over to to ranching here um and managing that but i'm but i'll look up um greg judy here let's let's put him in here greg judy um green pastures farm looks like that's his thing here let's see i'm gonna pull this up over here so green pastures farm greg and jan judy nice cow look at that look at that beautiful cow and all his cows here. Um, so look at him and his wife. See, that's, uh, that's what I'm looking forward to, you know, just having our farm be where the cows will do most of the work. Cause
30:30 other farming men, I got to do most of the work and I'm just not that into it. It's like, I've done it for a while and it's like, man, gotta find out what works and these guys doing farm tours and these things that's really what i should be up to um you can even sell semen what a great guy um would like the greg judy semen yeah um and he has an airbnb so he's already doing you know that's that's he's living the dream he knows what's up let's see you could let's actually let's let's check out his airbnb why not see what does he do for airbnb
31:07 be oh you can stay at this place yeah look at that you got a little cooler full of cow semen no what's in there i don't know look at that you could do better on your lighting buddy um but look at that little shack nice thing on there and that nice fire pit you can uh you know maybe roast some cattle beef out here i don't know looks like you're kind of staying in his backyard. Why not? Want to play some games or read a book? Just sit down on our lovely covered porch and relax. You might even be lucky to see a deer or two. And yeah, well, that's cool.
31:51 So he's already living the dream. He knows what's up. um so yeah um yeah pay attention to what the cows eat first and most of as you spray yeah yeah no we're making the uh we're making the uh pasture better every day so it's getting better um i am forcing him to eat some elephant grass right now just behind the office. I've pinned them in there and they don't want to eat it because it's junk grass, but I need them to eat it because otherwise it gets too big. But they get mad at me. Yeah, Mark's doing push-ups between smoke sessions.
32:38 So he must be doing a lot of push-ups, eh, Mark? Oh, I just had to leave it. That's good, man. Yeah, no, farm time, man. Whenever you want to come out, man, let me know. you know always got a place for you even if you're camping out in here man it'll be good um so um okay so here here robert charles is asking a question that says i have well water the iron is so much it shows on the banana leaves if I water too long. Other than a $12,000 quote system,
33:25 help me think of a better way to mitigate this issue, please. So, I mean, that's kind of what we talked about last week. I mean, I guess, you know, we always end up talking about these things just in general. But one of the things we went over last week was in here, this book here. Let me swap this over here. So we were talking about Master Cho's book here, and we were talking about, or maybe it wasn't last week, maybe it was the week prior. But last week, we talked about the green grass liquid fertilizer, which I think will help
34:10 for that. But the other one we were talking about was this ag mineral water. So let me zoom this in a little bit here and bring this one over. Such slow scrolling and bring this up. And it said that, you know, it's not too much to say that farming job thoroughly relies on water. Water is composed not only of H2O, but also various minerals. um the contaminated water negatively affects crop cultivation you know so that's what you're dealing with right contaminated water negatively affecting crop cultivation
34:47 um one condition for farming is good preparing good clear water so um and again we we went over this i don't want to like read it verbatim but um but it says it is necessary to build an energetic body fluid circulation within healthy crops. So that's what you're wanting using this ag mineral water. So instead of just watering them with your water, pump it out of your well, build a system like this where you dig a pond 120 centimeters deep, cover the bottom with vinyl film to prevent water, you know, and then make an artificial waterfall above by pumping and recirculating it.
35:30 and this is like the classic thing of what you do um i think i also i'm going to open this to see if this thing pops up uh let's see here um recents no um let's see um I knew I had the other one up but but I um so anyway uh what you what you want to look up is on the on the channel this is searching just my channel is BMW so if you search down below and you look up the BMW here's the one in Korea I know I know I'm looking at it from my studio side so this is what you guys see but um but here i'm going to watch the bmw so this is one where
36:23 he made it in a barrel instead so the basic design of this uh here let's see here if we just play from here so there you go um let me skip back just a sec so here you go so basically they did the same thing Instead of digging a pit, they have a tank. It's full of water. And you could have this so your well water would come into a tank where then a circulating pump pumps the water up. It comes down. It falls. This bucket contains rocks and IMOs in there. I think actually that's just a splash shield, but it hits these rocks and things in there and just goes around here.
37:05 So that would deal with your iron because the microbes would hopefully break it down a little bit and getting, and I don't think this is a $12,000 system. It depends how expensive this tank is. But something like that would at least enliven your water. So you could run it through a system like this before you go and irrigate it to your fields. And you can have this with another big holding tank next to it. So you could run it through this, then put it into the holding tank, run it, put in the holding tank run it put it in the holding tank and then you'd have enough to irrigate
37:44 type of thing but a bmw you're going to make that agricultural mineral water it's going to get rid of the contaminants it's going to make it biologically active it's going to balance your minerals those things we you know end up talking about this a fair amount in terms of it's either a bmw or an amw you know um so agricultural mineral water oh and hey look at this look at this i just since northern thai guys in the chat here at the time it's like what does it suggest for me right here your video is being suggested two years ago episode five can effort to damn
38:23 let your soils ph be the judge there you go bro let's let's get another hey everybody welcome to Northern Thailand. Listen, today I wanted to have a short conversation with you as a follow-up. But I can only play so much of that because it will demonetize me. So anyway, hopefully that wasn't enough to demonetize me. Oops. I always forget about that. Anytime I watch YouTubes on YouTube, it demonetizes me, which is kind of funny because it's still on YouTube, but you know, whatever. So anyway, those are water solutions. That's, you know, search a channel,
38:57 hit the thing below, you know, and search the channel, you know. Or you can also look at knfsupport.com, which, why not? We'll just do that. We'll just go here, pull up a browser, knfsupport.com, pull that up, and here there is. I gotta go through and answer this here. Marty Raspberry asking a question here. I haven't checked this recently, but Um, so, and then you can just look up, you know, BMW here and you'll find tons of, you know, I always talk about this on the office hours. It tends to be one of those things that's pretty important.
39:38 In fact, there's not that much of it, but, um, and then you can also search here and this will give you the text answers here, you know, um, natural mineral solution. So anyway, lots of resources out there. KNFsupport.com. Check it out, too. Okay, so... Yeah, and then we're getting some grazing stuff going on. Yeah, pounds per acre. Surprise, I haven't heard about Greg Judy. Man, you know, I live under a rock. I live on an island. I probably have heard of him. I just, you know, I haven't seen his page advertising his semen. Um, I start using my urine on my compost last winter to defrost it.
40:30 I then learned the pH shifts and the pathogens die if I leave it bottled for a couple weeks minimum. So I bottled six times four liter bottles. Um, yeah, there's lots of stuff on the urine. Um, I don't use it a lot because I don't need to. but now I took some from my boot tread and added it to the stinky bottle of pee and it started to eat the bad stuff and the pee has no smell. So after the nitrogen off gas, you can also add a little lactobacillus to that, create fermented urine. I have created a compost that is tuned to eat my body's biology
41:11 and when I add it to the pee, it was like dropping it into a lake of heaven. makes sense makes sense um you know in master chose older books um the he does um he does advertise um using um humanure and um let's see if i let's see if i can find that here um you know humanure you know number two or number one you know both those um both those are good um and then there's there's all these books on it you know of um you know uh you can look up you know uh what is it i don't know my um my mother-in-law is really into this um and she
42:02 your body's perfect medicine i think is one of them and they just they just talk about you know you got a problem drink your piss it's like it seems like everyone that has a problem or a solution thinks that their solution is the answer to everything similar like like i think knf is solution to most things although you know i got my own set of problems that it's not necessarily um solving um let me see um um um Um, yeah, here, let's pull up this book here. So, oh, how's that?
42:47 I pull it up and it's already set on the human excrement liquid fertilizer. So, um, well, so that means that's the last time I opened this book. That's most of what we're looking at. But here again, right before the BMW in this one where he's talking about the BMW, similar agricultural mineral water, he talks about the human waste. I think this one he's talking about taking, you know, dumps, number two in there. You know, you're going to watch out if you're taking any weird hormonal things. but um but human excrements produce excellent fruits
43:29 um but master cho did talk about it you know dig a pit in the ground or use a bucket or whatever um you know put put your poop in the pit add half water of the weight of the excrements um so if you have 600 pounds of poop you'd add 300 kilos of water, which I'm not sure how you're going to poop 600 kilos. Maybe you're going to do it over time. I'm not sure. Um, and that should only fill one third of your pit up and add 60 kilos of fermentation starter. Um, you know, and he's using yeast cultivated on a rice bran
44:10 as his starter. So you may want to consider putting yeast in your urine things or lactobacillus, in those bottles. Four to five days, fermentation will be complete. And use a stick to stir it. Unless you're really a wild man, then use your hand. Don't use your hand. Trust me, don't. And don't put that stick anywhere. Throw that stick away after you're done with it. Don't let your dog carry it around the yard, bring it into your house. Oh my gosh. After fermentation, fill the hole with more water and it will take one more week to mature. After maturity, the liquid will be dark brown and the
44:50 unfermented solids will surface. Of course, bake those into a cake and offer it to your neighbors. No, I'm giving bad advice today. Don't listen to that. And then dilute it 30 to 50 times. So he's diluting it a fair amount. You know, if you go back over this slowly and calculate all this out, you know, um, so just when you're, whenever you're using, um, you know, um, these things, you know, and they're better if you combine it with IMO or FAA. Um, and apparently the poop has lots of phosphoric acids. So if you're looking for that, um, your changeover period,
45:30 it'll be really good during that time. Um, use it accordingly. It also has minerals and salts that are good for crops. Mr. Yang, also known as Mr. Poopy, showing his HLF device. It's like, this is where Mr. Yang goes number two all the time. And it's the secret to his best quality oranges. So if you're eating his oranges, you're eating Mr. Yang's whatever he ate, right? So So anyway, Master Cho does talk about that directly, that HLF, human excrement liquid fertilizer, human liquid fertilizer. So anyway, what's up, eyewitness?
46:15 Yo. So I hope that gives you a little bit more info on just how to do those things. I'm interested in hearing how you're doing it. All those things are great nutrients. DNA, RNA, all that being recycled. Hormones, enzymes, all these things that your body kind of gets rid of, you can recycle. Key is to add fermentation to the whole thing and get that together. And Cecily is saying in Western Australia, they have an iron-eating bacteria that eats our gaseous iron from our boar. We use settling pans and air spraying to help things along.
47:01 Same idea. So, yeah, so she's getting iron that's coming up, and if she's aerating it, so her well is full of iron-rich water, but then if she aerates it and puts it in a settling pond, then it'll gas off. So I guess I was correct by saying put it in the BMW. It's a kind of similar type of thing. and in the short term would something like chido sand work to negate the iron issue with the water? I'm not sure about that. Let's go look up where Master Cho was talking about the chido sand.
47:46 Where was he talking about chido sand? Yeast. oh oh and and also here's you know um let's see i'm gonna unzoom this a little bit i know you guys can't see what i'm looking at but if you're looking at the the yeast since i mentioned yeast here as well here's here's the yeast recipe um you know yeast breaks down sugars all this i'll just let's leave it you can pause this read this if you wanted to if you got high definition um but how to use yeast let's see does he say how to make yeast no does it say
48:32 it must say how to make yeast no right here right here is the recipe yeah he makes it with grapes basically um so anyway i'm trying to find the chido sand phosphoric acid i know he talks about chido sand right here chido sand so chido sand the materials how to make chido San. And then it must come down over here. How to use. He did talk about Chidosan. I remember
49:25 the other week. I don't know. So look up the office hours. It'll probably be in there. Hopefully it'll be indexed soon. Get that there. The Thai guy. Yeah, cool. I'm glad KNF community linking up um yeah it um i have your full permission to use the video i know but youtube doesn't give permission like that that's not how it works um maybe i can appeal and they will say i'll say he gave me permission um but that's not how it works so um it's their ai just washing you push-ups I should do some push-ups uh yeah no heavy metal chelator um yeah no we were I
50:12 man it was like a couple episodes ago we talked about that for something we were talking about something maybe it was the Kaido San Wikipedia page I don't know we were looking up it for something and in Kaido San was like where it was at so I know it was just a couple episodes ago I guess I already forgot. That's why I index these things, have these things, you know, happen this way. But yeah, no, you're onto something and I think you're correct. The Kaito said, oh, it was when we were talking about the Chromium. Chromium. Yeah, let me,
50:48 let me check, let me, and I know I looked up the wrong Chromium. And then we were looking up, uh that's like it's not it's not a web browser i don't want the here it's this one and we were looking up chromium and then let me see does this have uh can i i want to find chido san no it was one of these it was we were looking up chromium five or four or six or something we're looking up one of these chromium things um because chromium three chromium six i think
51:35 we're looking up yeah hexavalent chromium and then this one um let me see chitosan um here so here on the hexavalent chromium we're looking up remediation of hexavalent chromium and drinking water, right? And then it talked about, you know, these guys in Malaysia found that chidosan coated with this can effectively be employed for removal of hexavalent chromium ions from an aqueous solution. Chidosan is very cheap, economical, environmentally friendly substrate for creating this polymer. And, you know, so again, maybe this is the answer, right?
52:19 this chido sand, um, cause it works for this. I, I'm not sure if it works for iron, right? Um, yeah, the, the plus six ions it's, it's this one where it was doing it. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks George, um, for remembering this. Cause he was talking about this as well and we were looking it up. Um, yeah. So, so I, I don't know. I mean, I think there's a lot of these solutions. Um, yeah, Aaron Brockovich, right? This is Aaron Brockovich. And we were trying to get, when, when this episode came, we were talking about this, I was like trying to get Aaron
52:54 Brockovich to become a natural farmer and asked if anyone had connection to her and we could talk to her about this. Um, but yeah, so I, this is, this is where I saw, uh, Kaido-sen, um, you know, cleaning up heavy metals of some sort, right? Um, and, and you say it does so much. I, you know, I, I don't know that much about chitosan, even though I went to Korea specifically to learn about, um, uh, um, gelatinase and, and, uh, chitinase, right? These two things that these enzymes that they were brewing, um, but it's effects. The guy, we were there with
53:32 Kilion Kim and it was just like, this stuff works. It's amazing. And, and, but he never really got into the science, even though he was like a professor. Um, so, um, but, but that could be cool. So I'm thinking, um, the stick tech, oops, oh, Cheryl. Um, yeah, so, so I, I don't know. I mean, I think there's huge potential. So thanks. Thanks Richard for bringing that up. Um, made you under a stink free yeah yeah so uh let's see why isn't this thing not scrolling anymore okay there
54:18 there you can scroll with this a little bit um yeah what's up brayden um moved to michigan and the farming is great. Cool, cool. Yeah, that's the system and masterly shed. He does have one of those BMWs in there, Robert, for sure. I'm just reading back on the chat here a little bit. Time is different from California. Okay, if you're on the farm. Yep, okay, okay. okay so yeah I mean just you know anytime you're using human waste make sure you ferment it make sure you you know do these things fermented you know the microbes can break down these toxins
55:06 and sterilize or sanitize is a better way of saying the waste okay so we're getting through that um on banana trees once the older leaves have yellowed and complete completely should i clip them off just seems like once they're yellow completely it doesn't matter what i do but they'll brown wondering um you know some people do trim their bananas and keep them nice and trimmed it helps with the airflow to come through um the reason your banana leaves are yellowing more often i mean not not to say it's just natural and it happens but also if you add
55:49 more potassium to your bananas you will have less of the yellowing because typically what the banana does is it will take the potassium from this move it out especially when you're having fruit form and then the leaves start dying off early it's moving the potassium so if you amend with more potassium to the bananas you can avoid the yellowing on the bananas a little bit more and you can also take those banana leaves that you've um that you've taken off and then um burn them and then mix the ash with water and then put that water back out on your bananas
56:31 to get that um get that you know the rest of that ash make more potassium ash and put it back to your bananas. So if you are farming bananas, you know, and you trim the leaves, you can burn them, collect the ash, and then make an ash water solution. I don't think vinegar is necessary for that. I'm pretty sure it's not just water and ash will work just well. And take that water, it'll be potassium and put that back on there. So anyway, bananas, always good. So, yeah, so, yeah, I'd let them brown out, your banana.
57:20 Instead of clipping them when they're yellow, I'd let them brown out completely, because then the nutrients have moved to the other place, and that way you can light them on fire easier. I think I got a sneeze. that was an early warning system that came on pretty early and then i did sneeze last time i thought i didn't sneeze and i didn't sneeze wild um um so so kite uh i think northern thai guy is saying that um it wipes out I think chitinase wipes out the bad guys and it's safe and it works with the good guys. I'm pretty sure.
58:04 I think chitinase also breaks down fungal walls because there's chitin in fungal. So I'm not entirely sure it's completely benign to the good, um, fungus. So you're going to do got to watch out a little bit if you over, you know, again, you overdo anything and it's like, it's wild. I feel like I had to sneeze again, but I don't think so. Wild. so only the ones without chitin in it yeah I'm not entirely sure what okay so hang on I got a couple more questions here yeah I'm not sure on the kite maze and all that like I don't know
58:55 I don't know. I haven't done enough experimentation with it. I have like concentrated chitinase and gelatinase like enzyme that I just boil with water and not boil, but like cook with hot water and make it. And I just, I just never did. I was never into that technology. I just thought that the natural farming thing, and then maybe get some crab shells, shrimp shells, uh, insect frass, and just make chitinase that way. I thought, I always thought that was better than brewing these other hot microbes. I don't know. I just didn't get that into that tech. I always thought, you
59:26 know, the KNF one was a little bit better. Plus the other one, you know, you always have to buy the inoculum from this one guy instead of just collecting it. But there are ways to collect IMOs to get more chitin in there. I've talked about it a whole bunch on the office hours and all these things. So if you look up chitin on KNF support, I'm pretty sure. Let's just try that and let's see what happens if I type in chitin nothing. Chitinase nothing. So maybe it was just spelled wrong. I'm not sure, but I'm certain I've talked about it. So maybe it just wasn't indexed.
1:00:07 Not everything's indexed here or properly, but I'm certain I've talked about it. um so you will have to find it another way um so you can make a cup of tea with your remediated water and taste reasonably good you're probably going in the right direction nature amazes me but i'm not a scientist really an economist yeah i mean um uh you know actually um economist if if I don't know if anyone else here is into, let's see here, I'll bring this up, but etymology of eco, let's say define eco.
1:00:55 And let's see. So, but let's see, how do I, maybe I got to put a colon here. I know it works with the Google okay yeah if I put a colon there and then can we see the etymology come on word nick let's see I would just pull up Merriam-Webster which you know they always change the definition of words these days but here's the etymology German from Oco, Eco, Eco, shoot um uh uh
1:01:42 what's it's the number eco eco ah shoot why is it looking up ecology I wanted to just look up anyway um shoot what was I trying to do anyway I was trying to look up the etymology of these things but oko it doesn't even tell me what the meaning is. First known since one, since one. Anyway, ah, anyway, I just, economy, it's like, it's like the earth and the house. Um, you know, uh, ecology is the study of a house and economy is like the numbers of a house. Like eco means house. I'm pretty sure if you look back at
1:02:25 the etymology, anyway, I, you can't even use the dictionary anymore. They've completely, you know, they don't want you to like know things and have taken those things away. It's like, come on. Um, I really wanted just these, uh, you know, that's why I have a dictionary from an old dictionary. It's like, you can look that stuff up still where they haven't edited it, you know, the Mandela effect, whatever. That's even worse is the web effect where they just change the web and you're like, what? That's not what this was. But anyway, okay. Economists. I always think that
1:03:03 economy is number one. Ecology, you know, those two. Ecology, economy. Those are the two things you got to be. So anyway, I'm not sure where I was going with that. Besides, I wanted to... my cake had some corn in Utah not sure what that means so let's see how many gallons do you spray with my drone on all of the farm and how long does that take including the fermentation of the liquid in indigenous microbes so again again I did show this here. I'll just bring it up one more time because why not? I have it here. So, um, of,
1:03:47 of the whole farm, I can show you we're spraying 92 acres, 92 gallons, or excuse me, 92 gallons on 6.7 acres. This is, and this is, and you can look at this here is the flight route. So, um, you know, if you zoom in on this, you know, you can see like, this is 2.16 acres, all this pasture over here. This pasture here is one acre up here, you know, and so it's just making these passes. And over here, it's spraying 12 gallons per acre. So usually the drone has to come and, you know, it takes 2.1 times a landing here to do this. And then over here, I'm spraying 25 gallons per acre,
1:04:32 which is, it's not a pasture, it's where the bananas are. And that's 1.15 acres. And this is 1.1 and a half acres here. So you can kind of see, you know, you can add all those up at 6.7 acres total. And I'm spraying out 92 gallons. And it takes about an hour of flight time. And I have to land and refill the drone about 17 times to do that. So that's what it, you know, it just keeps all this data for me of the way it's going. But and then how long does it take prep time to get all that together. Um, you know, some of the things we're just, um, we're just filling them
1:05:11 right away. We're just filling 55 gallon drum and then, um, adding the solutions to it and giving it a stir and then using it. And we're not letting it like mix and ferment. Uh, and other times I will, the day before start a liquid IMO in my mini, um, my mini BMW machine. And I will create, um, create that. And so that takes about an hour or, you know, I run it for about six hours of, of stirring and then I sit for another 12 hours. So I oxygenated for six hours and I sit for 12 hours and then that is added to the tank along with the other solutions just before we
1:05:53 spray. So if you factor all that in, I mean, in terms of time, it takes me, it probably takes me about 20 minutes to set up the brewer and get that going. Probably takes me about, you know, five minutes to fill a tank with water and mix those solutions in. Although my wife's been doing it. She's the mix master while I get the drone set up and all that other thing. So we work together, you know, and she's, you know, refills the drone each time it lands and I deal with the battery, swapping the batteries in and out, you know. So how long does it, but, you know, that's how long
1:06:28 it takes about an hour flight time you could probably double that for ground time although i don't think it's quite that much usually we start at about i would say we start at about one o'clock two o'clock and we finish at about four four thirty five i don't know it takes a while takes a while because there's also cleanup for the drone we're gonna clean that thing up gotta set it up gotta make sure all the things are you know you know it's overhead it's a machine You can't just like, you know, yeah, there's a fair amount of overhead. So, okay. Okay.
1:07:06 And then a northern Thai guy apparently did a video on chitin. Let's see. Let's see if we can go to YouTube and find that. Let's see the northern Thai guy here. We, you know, so I just clicked. Here, I'll show you what I did. I was at his video. I just clicked on his thing here. That's how you go to channels and then we can look up his videos or we can go here and we can search and we can see chitin. And see, here you go. He's talking about chitin here and pre and post compost tea treatment. So this looks quite interesting.
1:07:44 I'm not sure I watched that one, but always cool to see these things and find, you know, another channel out here. So give him a subscribe. man he he looks like he you know could use it a thousand we see if we can double that up get him two thousand here as if i have that many subscribers but um you know he's doing good things up in northern thailand and um so yeah and cecily awesome one of the front runners since since the 60s doing this. Um, and the drone, the drone I'm using, um, is it's, um, if you go to
1:08:25 DJI Ag, let's just see DJI Ag. I'm just going to see, oh, they're losing money. No, it's the Dow Jones Industrial. It's losing money. DJI is making money, but ag.dji.com is the one, um, let's see their products we are using an agris t40 right here so um so this is the one it looks like that it's huge it can have it can carry 50 kilos spreading uh spraying spreading and 40 kilos spraying payload folds out like that this like thing is a radar it has binocular vision so it doesn't run into things has little spotlight so you can run it at night um has double double
1:09:10 thing it flies just like that it's crazy i mean it's it's it's cool it really really works well has this spraying system where it doesn't magnetic so it doesn't actually and then these discs spread it out and you know it can spread 12 liters a minute um magnetic drive impeller dual atomized sprinkler um and all these sensors to keep it from um fast i don't want to subscribe i already own these. And the spreader spreads the material, you know, it weighs the thing and does it in real direction. And it's actually really good. It hasn't run into anything so far. You know, it'll
1:09:50 map things and know and it does really well. You know, and it does this mapping feature too, where it can actually build a map. I haven't been able to get it to work because I got a tree that's too tall. And it only flies at 90 feet, but has this nice controller and you can map things in real time um and then it'll do your field autonomously just like this with its eight core processor um but yeah that's you know it's as if i'm a dji salesman here i'm not you know if you are maybe mention me so maybe i get some discounts next time but batteries you swap them
1:10:23 in and out cools them run i have this generator as well to charge it in the field so i'll just run off that mine has less chinese writing on it but um swap the batteries in and out it'll do the thing, smart, you know, but anyway, that's, that's what we have. We have a Agaris T40. It was well, you know, it was worth it. It was cool. It's well worth it. Um, so anyway, yeah, uh, we are over time and I am happy to be here with you guys. Uh, gals, um, folks, folks is a better word. It's just all encompassing. I don't think anyone's offended by saying folks. Thanks folks.
1:11:00 if you're here and you last this long you must really be into natural farming so special love to you and your whole family and everyone out there keep doing natural farming keep making the world great thank you to the pure canna foundation making this possible thanks to master cho for everything i don't know where i'd be without him i always say that because i really don't know probably still be here but probably way dumber uh or slept slept ef so yeah thanks what's up linda thank you thanks eyewitness love you man hope florida's doing well hope uh yeah thanks
1:11:46 andrew thanks everybody um if you're interested in the class again knffarm.com come in chris what's up from socal yo oh all these people saying what's up at the end papa bless yo um peace may peace prevail may we all find uh you know use drones for peaceful things and all that and i guess i could just keep going on but i just want to yeah i just anyway i i appreciate this this brings hope to my life and these sundays are worth it so let's see i'm gonna go to this stream finished and thank you all aloha love you thanks i'm gonna do a slow curtain close
1:12:24 actually you know i'm gonna do a fast slide okay bye