Pig Feed Ratios, Madag Pest Recipes, Pasture Drenching

1:00 hey good morning welcome to office hours for korean natural farming brought to you by pure knf foundation and members like cecily and all those other great people out there that are part of a growing community, of supporting good things they want to see happen in the world, and the teachings of Master Cho, and all that good stuff. So, welcome. What's up? We got Seattle in the house. Awesome. Good to see you, Rainbow Possum. And today, yeah, so you got an hour. Ask me any questions.

1:48 Otherwise, we're going to get to... Madag. And hopefully we'll finish that out because it's ultra low cost. It's super simple. You can literally do Madag in about five minutes. Well, maybe, you know, read the book and you can do it in a day type of thing, but it's taken us a whole year, which I never expected. So we've been going over that. So if you want to find past episodes, canifsupport.com, a little chock full there. Also get the book there, do all kinds of good things, all that. But today let's start off with a bit of higher wisdom, which is to decrease.

2:28 So be still, lessen the power of the ego, and misfortune will be avoided. It's a fact of life that times of decrease come upon us. Our resources are limited Difficulty surrounds us And our egos generate angry and unhappy emotions Nonetheless, such times are good for us If we respond to them by quieting our egos And turning sincerely to the higher power for help we emerge from a period of decrease

3:15 stronger, healthier, and wiser. When we discover we are unable to achieve our goals our egos become infuriated. We are tempted to harden into anger and bitterness. to lash out, to desperately and aggressively grab for control over the situation. If we do this, however, we only push our own salvation further away. The I Ching counsels us to withdraw into stillness now.

4:05 The image is that of a spring reverting inside of the mountain, during a time of drought. By returning to this quiet center during the time of decrease, it avoids evaporating and exhausting itself in vain. You would be wise to follow this example. To try to force progress by arguing, manipulating, or making excuses will only bring your own downfall. Instead, disengage from your inferior elements, however passionately they seek

4:51 expression, and turn to the sage for guidance and assistance. The hexagram sun issues a call to sacrifice negative feelings. Accept the powerlessness of the ego against the currents of life. and return to contemplation of the principles of the sage. In stillness and meditation, we enrich the higher parts of ourselves and thus bring an end to the time of decrease. So, yeah, decrease.

5:37 That's a good one. I wish it seems pretty apropos for the moment. just before the big selection, you know, decrease, let it go. It's all in God's hands now. And, uh, try not to get, you know, I don't know, a lot of people talking out there, at least things I follow where, you know, riot fences going up around the white house and, uh, you know, sound, seems like people are getting ready for some, you know, thing that would upset them for some reason. And, uh, it seems like we've been pigeonholed into this, no matter where you're

6:14 at or who you're voting for or, you know, rooting for, I guess is a better way. I don't, I don't know if your vote actually counts, but rooting for, um, you're, uh, on the track to get disappointed. So, uh, yeah, never give up. Just, uh, you know, stay grumble, pay. I mean, stay humble, pray. Um, so we got some good people in the house. It's good to see a global community gathering from around the world to do good things, to, to celebrate the natural farming. We even got Ireland in the house today. Good day, mate. I know that's probably not what they say.

6:53 Um, but, uh, yeah, good, good folks out there. Ireland, you know, I heard some, some folks are doing a KNF dairy up in Ireland, doing some amazing things. We got printer bear in the house. we got to get some shirts out printer we got to get some shirts out there i got some good ones i got one on today that i that i enjoy but it's probably not uh youtube friendly you probably can't see it but it ain't youtube friendly it's one of those things where once i quit facebook i need some place to put my memes uh you know because i violate the community standards with

7:28 their memes not that they're you know um but was not allowed so now i just print shirts one off iron-ons, you know, the deal. Um, got Stone Mason in the house. What's up, Bridget? Another member. Printer Bear's a member too. That's amazing. The Hut of Ancient Knowledge. What's up? We got Nigeria in the house. We are a global community. It's cool. Sometimes I, I, um, I talk to my wife. I'm like, you know, I don't know. Decrease is a good thing right now. Just decrease, man. let it go do the right thing focus on master cho do the natural farming it's a beautiful day

8:05 it rained here like a couple feet over the over last week and the ground was all soaked and sludgy and slow you know and rivers in the yard kind of thing and today it's nice and sunny it looks like a beautiful day it is that is a way for you helo side don't move here it sucks um yeah so um never give up cool well um yeah speaking of um and the amount of rain that's been falling it's been enabling me uh in the past week twice three times to drench 275 gallon totes so i've been i filled one i let me let me uh let me do

8:59 something real quick here i'm gonna i should move my cup here so i can reach the keyboard a bit easier let me pull up earth here and pull up google earth pull that up over here let's see Let's get rid of that. Let's bring this over. Let's bring this over like this. Let's get that there. Bring this one just slightly back. There, there, there. Okay, so over here, let's zoom in. Let's go to Hawaii for a second. And let's go, not that I'm going to dox myself, but you know, let's go to the farm here.

9:48 And yeah, look, you can see, let's see here. Let's make it just north like that. The farm fits a little bit better. We basically face straight east on the farm down the Mauna. But look at this. You can see my rotational grazing. Look at that. From space. Actually, I think it's from airplanes and stuff. But you can see the rotational grazing. So all these triangles that I sort the cows into, you can see that. The cows right now are over here. They are eating all this. This is elephant grass. See all these clumps? This grass gets like 12 feet tall. And I've left them in here for like a month.

10:26 And I didn't do rotational grazing. but this light, this lower one here, this pasture, um, man, is this beautiful. We dropped fish and IMOs into this, like literal barrels of fish guts and IMOs in here. And this pasture has just gotten so beautiful. This one really not that great, but there's biochar in there from a guy who did farming like years ago and it grew all this elephant grass, which gets about 12 feet tall. So I left the cows in here for about a month to just hammer that stuff down. Cause if I don't, man, it just gets too unwieldy. You can't even walk through the field, but the cows,

11:01 they just eat their way through it. And then this field is also pretty darn weak. And this is a drainage right here. And it comes down and there's actually a natural spring right here. So this is probably my weakest pasture. And it's because I can't really get in there with the fish and, or I guess I can put IMOs out there, but it's because my neighbor is right here in his compound and all his children are right here and um i try not to gas them out by dropping fish right here even though the imos really help to cut down the smell i do that so um but what i

11:41 wanted to show you it's not that it's over here this is the pig barn here and this is the milking stanchion and so i put a 275 gallon tote right there where i catch this much rain off here fill that up and in a day it refilled so often you know you could calculate this you could measure the distance and see how big that roof is but it collected you know almost 300 gallons of water in a day so that's how much it's been raining and this one is set up to a drench tank where we are taking manure from when we milk here and putting that into this tank and then running

12:23 manure plus lactobacillus out in a two inch pipe and drenching into this field. So the pipe, the collection tank's about right there, runs down, goes over and is drenching here. So speaking, but it is kind of a wash through here. Like this, the, the, this is actually, and this side over here, this is actually fairly steep. The grass is probably the worst over here, but you can see we're kind of running our field and our, our, anyway, this is where a dairy cow operates. So I've been doing a whole bunch of drenches off this building. This is where I

12:57 drenched a couple times this week. And then right over here off this building, I have another tank. You can actually see the tank right there. That's the tank right there. And I then ran pipe from here out to this pasture. So right about here. And this one, because the manure is not over here, I'm drenching the fish amino acids out of this tank because I have a bunch of fish aminos stored right here on this shelf although here i am doxing myself you're gonna come over here and get my like 12 year old fish amino acids kind of sewer stuff um but drenching out into this

13:36 pasture and then here it kind of flows out down this way because the hill goes that way so i don't know if i could actually how do you no that's just moving it how do i make the thing no um oh yeah here okay if I go like that like that I don't know and let's spin around okay like this spin it around let's see oh will it do it okay yeah you can kind of see how this is it I guess I don't know can you see that but basically it all flows down here this whole pasture. So I'm basically drenching out onto this hill and making it flow down.

14:23 And then these piles out here are actually old fish piles. Those are the bones left over. So we put bones and IMOs. But if you look at this, you look how steep this is. I'm right next to this huge ravine. This is about 200 feet down here. Think it down there. And so my barn right next to this huge cliff, it's steep right here. The map's kind of deceiving, but um but collecting water off here and then drenching out here so this is like i'm putting you know not only this year am i talking about the madadge i'm actually like really literally

14:54 putting it into action and having those things in these pastures bringing them back to life because my dairy cow very important to me and um as it gets winter the grass is changing it is less nutritious and all those things so trying to feed you know this side of the pasture and then this side of the pasture. And if I need, I probably got to go by like four or five more lengths, 20 foot lengths of two inch pipe. But then that enables me to, um, you know, nourish both sides of these pastures and just using the drench of going down. So that's, that's what I've been up

15:30 to. You know, there's the rotational grazing. There's me in the office right now. I'm right there, actually right there. Um, and these pastures over here, this, this one's my worst pasture and I'm not, you know, because my neighbors right here, I just don't, I don't, you know, anyway, trying not to, trying to be a nice neighbor, even though, you know, whatever. Um, but yeah, so anyhow, moving the cows, doing the thing, making it, bringing the life, the land back to life. That is my mission. That's what we're up to. And all these bananas in here,

16:02 you know, haven't been doing much with those lately, but, uh, yeah. So anyway, that's, uh, you know, figured I would just decrease a bit, show you what I've been doing, the natural farming in there. Um, so there is a question here. Yeah. WWF wrestling. Um, yeah, it reminds me of wrestling. All politics does actually these days. It is just like pre-scripted selection. Okay. So there's a question here from the Hut of Ancient Knowledge. Oh, coming all the way from Nigeria. That's amazing. We can connect around the world.

16:44 Please, what is the size of ratio of IMO, LABs, and corn stalks in making feeds for pigs? Making feeds for pigs. So I haven't gotten into this for quite some time. quite some time. But shoot, I guess I can just jump into it. Let's where were the animal feed? Let's pull up a book real quick here. Let's pull up Master Cho's book and let's just get into that to answer the question about the feeds real quick because it's probably worth going deeper into it. Let me see here. I'm going to pull up a book.

17:30 This one here. Oh, let's see. Janam. This one. Yeah, we'll pull up this one. This book here. And let's pull this over here. Drop it there. Hang on. I'm going to make it bigger. Make it bigger. And then give you guys access to seeing what I'm seeing. Here you go. So here's this book here. And let's go look at animal feed. So how to use, we were talking about, I guess last time I was in this book, I was talking about manures, but let's go down to the animal feeds. Let's just head on down there. Animal feed, animal feed, animal feed.

18:17 Natural farming in practice. Let's see. Animal feeds. Crops. Past crops. livestock there we go chapter six livestock so we're into the livestock session section and um let's see poultry no let's go down to the feed feed feed feed feed i mean i know you know basically basically 10 to 20 percent of your stuff can be imos swine keeping here we go sweet swine you know do not clean the feces the you know all this good stuff let's see true true true true true true okay here we go pig feed

19:07 give inedible food to or give give food inedible to human convert to resource so So natural farming, you only feed, you know, you're feeding them a lot less. You're feeding them about 100 kilos less to get them to the same weight because it's fermented and it's in there. Train the intestines. Put on muscle. Okay, but like where is the actual feed mix? Let's see here. feed less, increase feed efficiency. Um, yeah, and the idea is that they, um, they just don't

19:52 poop out as much because it's pre-digested. They can absorb more. Okay. Use homemade feed. Okay. Natural farming, uh, makes full use of local nature. Much of the feeds are homemade, including green grass, uh, kimchi, grass, kimchi farming byproducts, straw, soil, leaf mold, IMO, FPJ, LAB, etc. We dislike commercial feed because it has too little fiber, sea salt, and natural vitamins. You should take into account that even if the nutrition requirement standards developed by scientists may be right, and the mixed feed has the right composition, the pigs nowadays do not

20:30 have proper intestines to fully absorb what is given. So even if you're buying commercial feed, it's just they're not absorbing at all, even though it's there and you're paying for it. They're just pooping that out. That's why it stinks. So even if the mixed feed might be nutritious, the pigs are still in a malnutrition state. Oh gosh. So, um, for example, here's a simple method to feed 10% of the feed with green grass. One kilo of green grass is equivalent to 150 grams of mixed feed. So, um, that is if the pig eats three kilos of mixed feed,

21:07 reduce it to 2.7 kilograms and feed two kilograms of green grass so right there you can just take your your feed and reduce it and just feed them more grass okay um okay it's always best to make homemade mixed feed so i think he's going to go into it is he no this is guilt management first pregnancy at 90 kilos weaning let's see come on uh is it not he's not even going to talk about it oh my gosh, here's this whole thing. And he didn't even talk about it. I've scrolled all the way down here for nothing. Well, something, but, um, let's see. Okay. Oh, let's see. Okay.

21:49 Let's try a different book. I know. And I know this stuff. I just, I mean, I just haven't been basically, I mean, you're, you're making the mix, man. It's, it's pro, uh, you know, carbs and protein and standard mix. I should just, you know, be doing this. I haven't made their feed for a while though. It's pretty much the same as a chicken feed though. Let's pull up, let's see this book here, this one. No, that's not that one. Let's see. Not that one, not that one, not that one. This book, let's try this book. Let's try this book and see what we get. Okay.

22:26 we will try this one here and see does this one talk about the feed let's go down to the livestock section highest quality pork okay principles of organic breeding here we go pig um so to feed okay here this they're very similar books these two um the older one's actually better than the one I was looking at previous, but maybe not on animals. Um, strengthen the intestines of the pigs. They talk about this. Um, let's see. Uh, recycle the pig manure. Yeah. And there's something wrong with my finger right then when

23:14 I was taking pictures. Um, let's see. Is, are they going to talk about the feed? Um, here we go. Reality of pig breeding. No. Okay, let's see. Come on. Feed, feed, feed, feed. The fattening house. No, this is just talking about how to set up the pen. Mm-hmm. No, wait, is this it? Ground? Oh, no. So they're eating some of the ground, right? They're eating some of the ground. Let's see. Does he talk about the feed specifically? No, does he? Come on.

24:00 Come on. Management. Management of the mother pig. I should just search, right? You know. develop muscular mother pigs by feeding them roughage and green grass so again he talks about that um is it he's talking about the different things for the pig Oh, is it? Oh, here we go. Is it? No, no. He's talking about roughage and green grass assorted

24:45 feeds, fed pigs. Okay, here, maybe this is it. Maybe. Dried milk. He's feeding them dried milk with green feed. No, I don't know. It's not really a recipe. It's just like a strategy. Oh, man. Oh, standard way to the fact. Hmm. Okay. Here we are. Man-made powdered milk helped develop weaker capacity.

25:31 okay he's just talking about how they absorb it better he's not actually talking about the feed itself um cultivated feed um a little salt content make sure they're getting enough salt um i have all lep man i wish i could answer this question better instead i'm just like scrolling through stuff. How fun is this? Well, we decrease a little bit. Don't worry. Just ask the higher power. But, you know, supplement 10% of the assorted feed with green grass. You know, so just you can at least save 10% there.

26:13 epilogue okay so he doesn't actually give a feed recipe unless it's in the chicken section which it might be you know the chicken section has the feed in here where's this chickens chickens chickens chickens um let's see is there a feed recipe i don't know man you know also i do have the whole pig series on the YouTube. Um, structure. Oh, anyway, I'll just decrease and I'll pretend like this didn't happen. Um, yeah. Um, well,

27:06 livestock. Anyway, we'll just pretend like that didn't happen. Okay. Decrease that one. Sorry. What is the size ratio of the IMO and LAB? Well, I can just tell you the IMO can be 10, 10 to 20% of their feed can be IMO. The LAB, you just, you know, kind of moistening it there. You don't, you know, it's just kind of there. Corn stalks, you can obviously feed 10% of their diet, just straight up corn stalks, if not more. If you ferment them better, they could be better. I wish I could give you a more precise recipe here. I just haven't done it with corn stalks

27:46 for a while. I was doing it with banana stalks and I was making about 30 to 40% of their diet banana stalks. And I just cut the banana stalks yay big and cut them in half and then was soaking them in fermented plant juice and just, uh, using, you know, submerging them with stones on top and soaking the banana stalks and about 40% of their diet was that, but I have not done that for a while because I found a source of bread and milk that, um, I get, and I just haven't been fermenting their feed. I've been pretty lazy on it, to be honest. Um, and, uh, yeah, so, but ferment, but

28:24 there's IMOs, there's fermentation, all that stuff in there. They're healthy, they're happy, they're doing it. So, um, you know, um, anyway, I hope, you know, anyway, just, uh, whatever, probably, you know, maybe after the Madag, I could go over animals and we could just go through this animal part. Cause I don't know if I've ever done KNF animals and I don't know if that's applicable to most people, but, um, you know, it seems pretty good. So we got Thomas in the house now. Cool. um yeah you know um just grow food and decrease the amount of uh political stuff we have out there

29:03 yeah we just got our alpacas I'm trying to figure out the best rotational grazing path for them um so you know uh learning about rotational grazing basically you want to graze them and then you don't want to you want to graze them just quickly on something and then move them to the next and don't move them back until the grasses you want have seeded and grown in that area and or you know you only want your animals to eat the top third of something so if the grass was this tall you only want them to eat the top third and then move them and there's there's a

29:38 bunch of resources on that but um but also then throw IMOs down a couple days before they get there the grass will be even better spray with LAB plant juice all those things make all those things great. Um, I put 20% char in my chicken feed. That sounds like a fair amount of charcoal. I would probably make that 5%. I don't know. Maybe if the 20% is working for you, can't argue with it. Sure. Go for it. But 5% sounds a little bit more, uh, in the, in the realm of like what, what makes more sense to me, but Hey, I could be wrong. Uh, you know, I go for it. If it's

30:17 working for you keep doing it um uh yeah so protect pet squirrels yeah uh pray for peanut bro let's have a moment of silence for peanut i mean man i would i mean people come confiscate your dang squirrel and your raccoon it's like bruh bruh okay anyway um anything you put in animal feed comes out that much more refined calcium char whatever you add comes out as a in the fertilizer pile yes but you also gotta worry about malnutritioning your animals and just because they eat it it doesn't mean it's working

30:57 for them so just be careful monitor them you know use you know tune in your eyes be that person uh but just you know don't just think i can feed them whatever because um you know man you gotta take good care of your animals they are the the chief of your farm so big west yo we got we got some green green gulf fields there grass grass is the best okay let's see here we're coming down coming down we got um drake would you be open to doing a podcast with dr shane simenson zero impact agricultural podcast heck yeah why not zero input agriculture heck yeah

31:40 why not? I I'd podcast anybody. If he wants to be on my podcast, we'd do it. I just haven't published episodes since 2021. Um, or I'd go on his, whatever. It's cool. You can interview me. I like talking about stuff. Um, I believe one of the ingredients for chicken feed is IMO four. Absolutely. Yeah. Um, yeah, it's about 10, 10 to 15 to 20% somewhere in there of IMO four. um i love one straw revolution so far yeah that's why i stopped stopped pruning my trees go masunobu fukuuka for the win um okay okay so so even though nathaniel is putting in 20

32:24 biochar they're picking through it and eating what they want the rest goes in the compost ring and becomes high quality biochar compost. Okay. We would like to Young Song or Han Kyu. Han Kyu is not available. Young Song, I don't know. He only speaks Korean, so it's a challenge. Just to get out of that angle sphere. Yeah. Yeah, you know. Yeah, you can try it. Young Song is going to be hard to talk to because he doesn't speak English. You can use a text translator. Sure. Sure. You know, we could just talk into the thing and it would talk to you and go through AI. That'd be awesome.

33:10 Maybe I'd hallucinate some mushrooms up in there. Okay. Waiting for the morning glory seeds. I'll build next year's tomato plants, four legal plants. Yeah. Yes. Morning glories. have the questions ahead of time, but then what kind of podcast is that? I don't know. I'm not in a, I'm not a fan of the questions ahead of time kind of guy, to be honest. I mean, it's like freestyling, but go for it and give me the questions ahead. I'm just not going to read them or you can give it to them ahead of time. And then it's like,

33:42 why not just watch a video of them? Why have it a coast talk with them? Young son. Yeah. Yeah. you know um sure sure you could do that um i just you know um yeah cool well yeah all right well um so sorry i botched all those questions um well it's just a question about animal feed and i was didn't i gotta get into it and really go deep into that because uh just thinking in the moment I just haven't done it for so long. I've been like, too, you know, anyway, here we go. Okay, well, let's, let's, let's shift gears. Let's go medag. It's about that time. We got to get through

34:23 this. We really do. We got to get through this. I'm not going to do a whole nother year of medag, nor any, I got to get through this in 2024. It's like, I got to, I got to. So last time we ended up getting on spraying all these pests, killing them. It was basically soap. The idea was coat that crap out of them and then they turn into raisins. So if you didn't catch last week's, you know, like, subscribe, share, all those funny things they always request you to do. And or super chat. You should probably just super chat.

34:55 But rice baccanae. So basically this here, these recipes are in the back of this book right here. And he goes through about 14 different ways to contain these things. We've already covered this. This is in fact pretty much where I started this year. But, you know, basically he deals with rice bacchanal disease, which is a fungus that gets stuck in the seeds. And then each time you plant, it just doesn't germinate well and doesn't do well. So what does he do? He takes the rice seed, puts them in a small bag here. Then he puts them in, leave in cold water with sulfur for 48 hours.

35:38 So he soaks them in sulfur for 48 hours. A white film forms on the surface. That's probably some sort of yeast. I don't know. Maybe it's the yeast dying off from the sulfur killing it. I don't know. Then he rinses it very thoroughly with water and starts sprouting. He grows the rice on a tray. And then the rice bacchané has been completely eliminated. So if you are dealing with seeds that have residual seed effects and things that are in your seeds, you can soak them in sulfur for 48 hours or maybe,

36:13 maybe less for different things, but the rice for 48 hours, a little less than that, soak them in there and then, um, it will get rid of seed and multi-generational disease. And that was just the sulfur. There was no soap involved in this. It was just the sulfur. So, um, that's what he's doing. that is recipe number one. Uh, if you got seed disease, soak it in sulfur. Okay. Pretty simple, straightforward. Um, the next is number two, number two. What is number two? Well, we all know what number two is. Um, so this is, he has damage done by rice water weevil.

36:53 so if you have weevils eating your thing then you can add soap to water add the sulfur in stir it in add canola oil stir it in and the surface spreading agent is complete and then he sprinkles this in the water so i think the oil was to make all this stuff float right the soap the sulfur the oil it then floats on the surface of his rice patty so and then the pesticides start to spread out on the surface. Pesticides spread over a wide area and pesticide has formed a film on the surface. So basically you have covered your entire rice patty or your entire lo'i or whatever.

37:37 If you're doing waterborne things, maybe this would even work for those aquaponics folks that are so crazy out there. Although I don't know how this would affect your fish, but you can put this on the top and, or if you're doing hydroponics, this would probably work. Aquaponics, I don't know, this might affect your fish, but, uh, puts this film out there and then it's easier than spraying each of these. Just put a surface film to let the things float out there. Right? So this is seeming a pretty simple thing. So this was, you know, if you've got to do number two, this is how,

38:09 um then pests and diseases you can control with number three so um you can control black stink bugs rice blast i don't know what that is it looks like a fungus to me right rice sheath blight so i imagine this would also work for taro um leaf blight or any blight i imagine it would work um larva of rice moth so if you have larva of things out there if you have an earth mite or if you have a rice leaf roller so this would probably also work for banana leaf rollers smut got to get rid of that smut man although i heard that's actually pretty

38:53 tasty um rice blast and black brown plat hopper so number three kills that oh but they do they not give us recipe for number three let's see hang on let me scroll down for just a sec is he going to give us a recipe? Is he going to? No, these are just like what it kills. Oh man. So, so they're in the book, what the actual recipe is. So I can read what those recipes are, I guess, because I have the book here. So let me just read. So these are the things number three will control. And what is number three? Number three is basically soap. So all these are 500

39:34 liter batches. So all these, every recipe I give is going to be 500 liters. So it's five liters of soap, two liters of sulfur, five liters of Jerusalem artichoke herb, and five liters of Korean pasc flower root. And these are the things that, you know, obviously mix that all together and spray it out there. And then he'll always say you can increase these things. But that's what number three is, is soap, sulfur, Jerusalem artichoke, and Korean pasc flower. That's what it does. So these are just pictures of the things that will kill,

40:14 not the actual recipes, but I'll just give you the recipe. Number four, if you have to go number four. You know, you got powdery mildew, downy mildew, gold, gray mold on strawberries. I get that sometimes. I should do this. Powdery mildew, leaf fungus on tomato. Look at that. Green mold on tangerines and black spot on tangerines or black spot on tangerine leaf. If you have any these things happening is basically their powdery mildew recipe or your, um, you know, mold issues, um, happening. It looks like bacterial overgrowths happening. You can kill this with,

41:04 again, one to 500 of water. You mix in three liters of wetting agent, the soap, and 1.2 liters of sulfur. So any powdery mildew, soap and sulfur. Again, that's three liters and 1.2 liters of sulfur. So add that in and that should kill that. So that's great. Disease number five. We're getting number five. So number five is like canker, black spot, pear rust, brown, blotch diseases. So cankers, these look more like yeasty problems. This black spot, more of a fungal thing going on here. So what you're going to do is it's just a step up from number four, because

41:53 this is like bacterial type stuff. These are more like yeast and or fungal issues happening to you. Although he does have powdery mildew on rose in this one. So, and white rot on mulberry. I've never seen this happen, but I'm sure it could happen. Basically means you, you know, your, your ultimate solution is to put more microbes out there, more microbes out there, ultimate solution. But if you're just panicking and you don't know what to do and you just want to kill things because that's your jam, then your solution for these number five is 500 liters of water.

42:28 it had five liters of soap and 1.5 liters of sulfur so if you juxtapose that to the one before it's a little more soap and a little more sulfur and again this entire time i've been talking to you so goof that was a bridge um been talking to you the entire time about just if you know concentration test. Just up your thing until it treats what you want and spray it on a small area. Make sure it doesn't kill your plant or, you know, yeah. And then just increase these things. But don't do this at home. Again, don't do this at home. But this gives you an example. So if you

43:15 have these problems, now you just have the recipe. Oh, yeah, yeah. Time change. Oh, yeah. Happy daylight savings. I didn't know it kicked in already. Um, but, uh, yeah. Oh man. Daylight savings. We don't do that here. We don't do that here. Um, so it's always the same time for me. Um, pests you can control with number six. So if you, again, what do you, what do you think he's going to do? He's just going to increase things. It's, it's just, it's, it's like, and then he makes footnotes in these that says, if it doesn't work, just increase it. It's like, yeah, that's

43:50 the entire thing it's not like there's anything any special like perfect recipe it's like you just increase it yeah change all your alarms now from the time change we don't do that in hawaii we don't do it so it's like it's weird for everyone else because everyone else we don't do that we don't believe in time time changing hawaiians ahead of the curve um so here you got so number six number six this is number six we're gonna get through this i guarantee we got enough we have 15 more minutes to get through this we're gonna get through it today

44:23 thank heavens we'll just decrease a little bit here so number six is it's gonna kill mites on tangerines that probably kills mites on other things besides tangerines but these tangerine mites goodbye um silver leaf white fly goodbye aphids goodbye um cotton aphids hello So, turnip aphids, spider mites, mealy plum aphid. Look at those things. These cute little mealy plum aphids. Why would you want to kill those? Just increase the health of your plants. Alcupus lycopsy, whatever, Latin something.

45:10 And earth mites. Deaths of the earth mites. So, what do they do with number six? How do you make number six? Um, well, again, 500 liters of water and you can scale all these things. Just, just, you know, a little bit of algebra and you'll be there. Um, just use more. Yeah. Um, uh, so they, so number, number six is 500 liters of water, five liters of soap and five liters of Jerusalem artichoke herbs. Oh, of course, boil down. You've got to watch the previous episodes if you don't know how to make it. You're not just putting in five liters. You're making the recipes, right?

45:54 We covered the recipes. So that's what you do. Just spray it on. And remember, the more you can foam it onto these bugs, the more you can saturate. You actually have to hit the bugs. You can't just lightly spray the leaves and think it's going to get them. If they're on the underside, you've got to get them on the underside. You've got to hit them directly. You don't hit them directly, it ain't going to kill them. it's best to like foam this stuff up on them get a foam nozzle for your sprayer and foam these bad

46:25 boys and then again it's better to just you know have a healthier garden so um the tea is so amazing yes teas go that way um just and thomas just made his first imo tea from his chicken floor from his bananas and native persimmons yes do it do it that's gonna be awesome Um, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Listen to Nathaniel. He says, I would say if you have an acute issue that you can lose your crop, use JS, but understand you need to improve your soil for long-term. Yes, that is, that is, that's what I've been saying this entire time, this entire year,

47:09 I've been just ragging on this thing. Cause it's like, if you're trying to fix these problems this way. It's like, oh man, what are you doing? And then Thomas is saying, just use more mentality seems on point out that it's lacking a fundamental principle causing the disease, which I think we agree will come back to the microbiome, microbes, diversity, and health. Yes. Yes. If you don't have microbes, you're going to get disease. It's straight up. And if you have the wrong microbes out of balance, you're also going to get disease. And it's dis-ease. Just slow down

47:44 when you're saying it. Dis-ease. It's less easy. If your mindset is to kill the pest, your ecosystem will never be able to achieve dynamic equilibrium. You guys are so on it. I'm just going over this for thoroughness and completeness because these are tools that you have at your disposal. It's just like there's tools in your, you know, that you just don't buy, right? You don't go to Home Depot and buy every tool. It's like, I don't do that. I don't need those tools. Just leave them there and don't do this at home. How many days should the animal feed be fermented for? It

48:17 depends. Master Cho, so the animal feed, I'll go over the animal feed after this, okay? How about that? We'll get into an animal feed thing because it's important. And I can't cover that right now, but I'll go into it and I'll actually have all the stuff and all the data and I'll go through my notes and I'll have it all compiled and I'll have pictures and I'll have videos and I'll have all that stuff. But let's get into that. Um, cause I, you know, middle of killing bugs here right now, man, I'm killing bugs. I can't talk about making life better. Um, yeah, just right. Um,

48:53 okay. So number seven, number seven, what do you think is going to happen for number seven? He's going up the scale in terms of difficulty. So what do you think? He's just going to add more right so number seven number seven is for moths basically but he has what citrus mealybug arrowhead scale moth larva cabbage moth larva fruit worm moth larva look at those cuties oh that one has cancer perilla leaf moth moth larva slug moth larva oh and when those hairs are on there uh you gotta up your um your soap because the hairs make it harder for the

49:33 thing to penetrate just so you know they're hydrophobic they're designed to keep stuff from going on there so the hairs more equals more soap just as a general rule of thumb um diamondback moth larva how cute diamondback moth larva why are there two of them i don't know but anyway if you hate these things and you want to kill them and you have your thing unbalanced Then the recipe for you is, again, don't do this at home, 500 liters of water, 8 liters of soap, right? And 15 liters of the Jerusalem artitoke herbs. So again, like I said, he's just increasing the dosage, right?

50:15 Now, instead of 5 liters, he's now up to 8 liters, right? And these ones are a little bit more repellent. they have things on them to prevent this, the, the pesticides from getting right on them. So you just got to improve, increase the soap to improve the, um, what do you call the surfactant properties, the, the, you know, the ability to break hydrophobic things. These all have more defenses on them. So just increase your soap and then increase your herbs, right? Again, it's not, um it's not that hard um yeah yeah so um

50:59 scaly mold yeah so marty marty raspberry out there um made uh soap herbs and sulfur for three year infestation of scaly mold on magnolia hasn't returned right so once in a while you know you are justifying the fact that once in a while, knocking it back is a good thing. And it's just like, you know, sometimes, sometimes you have to take an antibiotic. I'm not, you know, no matter how many probiotics are out there, sometimes you got to take an antibiotic, but as soon as you do probiotics, right? You know, it's the same with these pests. If you

51:34 really can't kill them, you know, naturally, then go and kill them. There's a place for all this, but don't do this at home. I know, increased predators, right? I know, I know, I know all this. I, that's why it's been painful for me to go over the medag each time. Cause I really think that doing the right thing is better, but you know, there's a, there's a time and place. And so just, it's like denying people knowledge when, you know, it's, it's, it's a tool. You don't have to use this. It's just a tool knowing when and where it fits in is important. So number eight,

52:09 number eight. Yeah. Making the soap is good. There's, it's good for so many different things. um so number eight what is number eight it is citrus flatted plant hoppers leaf hoppers mulberry suckers spot clothing wax cicadas so if you hate these bugs and you hate them you're like get away from my plants well then just kill them um because you know probably fix the underlying thing but again what do you think the recipe is what do you think the recipe is he just increased the soap instead of eight liters like the previous recipe you're now using

52:45 10 liters i can't believe he put this on each page like these different things like you need this and that it's like bro we get it just increase it until it kills your pest right but um and then he used the same amount of herbs as prior he used 15 liters so getting into 500 gallons you're putting 10 liters of soap and 15 liters of oh ginkgo this time instead of jerusalem artichoke he's using ginkgo so he did up the herbs to a more toxic type of herb as well so again he's increasing it killing these things these cute little things that make they'll like electrically shock you

53:23 remember this as a kid these things would shock you um but you can kill these spot cicadas these clothing wax cicadas look at those things those cute little things just kill them woody apple aphids that's a pretty bad infection there just spray it on soak it foam them kill them slog marth marth larva mulberry suckers uh wow look at this thing this uh weird it's like the peacock of the insect world uh it's a cut recanonded plant hopper wow rice green tail hopper citrus flaccid plant hopper nymph um yeah you can kill all those

54:09 just blast them with a BB gun yeah awesome oh oh oh oh oh yeah yeah yeah yeah people always want to they just want to kill things I think it's the American way we're just violent by nature um and also that other group of people you can't talk about. Um, control with number nine bean bugs. So, so number nine, we're not number nine. I think there's only 15 of these. So we're getting close. We're getting close. Are we going to finish today? Oh, let's please let's finish today. Please, please, please let's finish today. Okay. So number nine, number nine, um, is stink bugs, thrips,

54:53 greenhouse whitefly turnip moth flea beetle pear sucker fruit fly onion fly mosquito grasshopper now killing mosquitoes i'm down for mosquitoes man i don't know what maybe that maybe they fly around and swap dna and stuff and give you you know maybe they upgrade your microbiome i don't know what they really do they seem just what a bane of the earth man um so this recipe number nine what do you do to kill the bean bugs oh my gosh my bean bug um silver leaf white fly turnip mouth larva pears phycelia greenhouse white fly oh those guys man they can get out of hand

55:33 tangerine thrips fruit fly mosquito oh yeah look at that mosquito um winter cherry bug what is number nine it is 10 liters of soap and 15 liters of korean pasc flower root into 500 gallons of water or not 500 gallons, 500 liters, liters. I'm giving it all in liters. I ain't touching gallons right now. Um, so again, he just increased same amount of soap as the prior one, right? It was, that was 10 liters, 10 liters. Yeah. 10 liters of soap. So he's keeping the soap the same. He is making the poison stronger. He's using a stronger herb to kill these things,

56:11 right so again it's just um it's going through um i don't know man i don't know man so again now we're at number 10 if you're going number 10 you got problems um but this is slug and snail right how do you kill this acoustic dysbrick a slug that look like a nice semi-slug it's bringing rat lung to your kale here winged mite tobacco aphids hyrificis alticabitia sallow aphids azalea white mites velvet mite oh look at that you velvet nice make a make a pants out of this one aphids how do you kill these suckers well what do you guess well actually

57:02 this one's slightly different. This one's slightly different. So into that 500 liters of water, you're going to mix in three liters of soap. So now he's into something slightly different, three liters of soap, and then 1.5 kilos of sodium hydroxide. So be extremely careful with this. And this recipe, do not do this. Do not do this. Sodium hydroxide, extremely dangerous. do not do this, but that's how you do it. Okay. So you just, you just spray it on them, kill them. Be careful never to contact the skin, you know, super PPE with this one. It is gnarly

57:42 as all get out sodium hydroxide, but that'll just basically burn these things alive. You can also just use salt on the slugs. I mean, just straight salt, you know, whatever. Okay. And then let's see, it's down to number 11. So now this is something I believe in, which is using the microbe solution for prevention of disease. So diseases and pests you can prevent with number 11. So if you want to prevent this in the first place, and instead of trying to treat it after it's there, you want to prevent it. What do you do? You take 500 liters of water. You add in 20

58:22 liters of the microbe solution. So this could be an IMO4T or his microbe solution while it's still good and not rotten. You can add in Jerusalem artichoke, five liters, add in ginkgo herbs, five liters, and add in soap at three liters. So again, when we're going back to that triangle a couple of days ago, a couple of things ago, this up here, this triangle right here, we are using herbs plus the soap plus the water this side of the triangle. And we are getting pesticide plus germicide and pesticide, all these things on this side of the triangle.

59:08 And we are now preventing it. So not only can you add things to kill, you can also add things to heal at the same time, but don't include the microbes of the sulfur. That was the other side of the triangle, and that's not compatible. Yeah, the state bird. That's funny, goof. Love bug issue, yeah. Cover yourself in soap so people can't cuddle with you. You can slip away easier. um so anyway this this is something i do recommend and this is putting the herbs with the thing but you could just even use plant juice i don't think young song cho truly understands plant juice

59:52 to be honest i mean in all my interactions with him i don't think he gets it but just using the herbs plus these things you can do this so if any of these are your problems i would use this recipe is something I recommend you do at home is this recipe right here. Number 12, number 12, this is an all-purpose pesticide. All-purpose. And so what does he do with an all-purpose? If you don't know what to do, the all-purpose one, you know, just kill the onion fly maggots, kill the moths, kill the stink bugs, kill the turnip moths, kill the pear, sphilia,

1:00:27 the thrips the stink bug the stink bug and the aphid just you know you don't know what to do just do this but don't do this and that is 500 liters of water 1.5 liters of sulfur six liters of soap five liters of jerusalem artichoke herbs and 10 liters of korean pasc flower root herb solution. So that sounds like pretty darn potent. This is probably going to kill pretty much everything. And this may be too much for everything else. He says, watch out, putting this on grapes, persimmons and walnuts and perilla. They're sensitive to the sulfur,

1:01:12 you know, so, um, take caution, of course, take caution on all this. This is crazy. Don't do this. but you know there you go number 13 okay come on we're gonna get through this we're gonna get through this 10 we'll just we'll go slight over time because there's only two more of these and then we'll get through this okay we'll just finish these up and then next time we'll do a little midage we still gotta go through midage my gosh i did not expect this to take a whole year to be honest i thought okay this will take a few weeks but we'll get into the animal feed next it'll be

1:01:45 great. And then we got to go through poop to poopology, man. That's going to be great. We got a lot of more topics coming at you. So it's like subscribe, share, become a member, do all those good things, but, um, or don't, you know, whatever doesn't really matter. I mean, it does matter. It doesn't matter. Don't let me tell you. It doesn't matter. It's just like when I'm saying, don't do it at home. It's more like, you know, it's a whatever it does matter. It does matter because coming here, being part of this community, it really does matter. It really does. You know,

1:02:11 people talk it's like we built something really good so don't don't let my uh pessimism get in the way it really does matter it does but i'm just decreasing my ego out of it by saying it doesn't matter but really my ego does matter you know it it's there for a reason right um anyway okay let's let's uh let's get out of my own head and get back to this this is fruit tree winter pest control so as winter is coming and you want to control the pests over winter take some fine red clay powder, measure out two kilos and dissolve into water. How much water? Probably 500 liters.

1:02:46 Filter out the large particles. Use an air pump so that the clay will not sink down. Airate that clay. And then put this out on your trees and just kind of put it so thick that it creates a little layer. This is very similar to the Mayan recipe where they're using different clays to do this. Um, what are they using? Like whatever, I don't know. It's a clay out there and you can also put EM in this. Yeah. Um, put LABs in this too. Um, yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah. And you could add minerals to all this. Um, um, kaolin clay. Yeah. Kaolin. That's the

1:03:34 thing i was thinking i think you get yeah you guys are awesome this is so great we built a community yeah thank you because i don't know everything and clearly when i'm like stumbling over the animal feed i just haven't i mean my brain starting to rot i don't get out enough okay so anyway you want to kill these you want to build a winter pest control it's this one here it is again 500 liters of water you're going to mix in 10 liters of soap five liters of sulfur and the two kilos of clay powder and mix that in. And then just kind of put that as a thick slurry over your things.

1:04:14 And hopefully that'll get rid of all these things because the clay will also mineralize your trees, which is good. So, okay. And then there's one more recipe we'll cover today, which is number 14 and this is soil foundation oh open the window it's hot here okay so soil foundation is effective against soil nematodes verticulum wilt virus diseases um so what is the recipe again this is one that i would suggest you do. And this is you're using into a 500 liters, I believe. It doesn't say it,

1:05:01 does it? Yes. Into 500 liters of water. Oh, you're just actually going to use 500 liters of microbe solution. So I guess that's your base. Then you're going to add in a half kilo of sea salt. This is for 0.1 hectares. Oh man, I don't know what the hell. I'm confused on this. Anyway, mix your sea salt in as recommended in my book. It's a lot clearer. Then use 20 liters of phylite. This is for a quarter acre here. And then wild grass crop residue of the leaf, the disgustingly cheap uh foods here so again so man okay i really should this recipe needs its own

1:05:52 thing but basically i'm confusing right at the end but make a tea make these things but basically 500 liters of water but he says that does eight acres and then he's saying these other things do a quarter acre so this recipe is not very good so anyway don't pay attention to this but make a tea out of microbes with sea salt with minerals with food of course this is just like this is just standard knf practices microbes food minerals you know you can't go wrong those are the things that everything needs and then in addition you can add other things you know in there but uh he says this

1:06:29 you know this will take care of phytophthora canker root knot nematodes uh virus diseases wilt of course all this microbes we already know this and he's like saying right at the end after killing everything he's like maybe you should just do this and it's like yeah the whole time that's what I've been saying we should just do this so anyway anyway anyway anyway let's see what's next it's just talking about him we'll go through this and I'll put put further resources out there because we're already over time and we'll go through we'll show you some stuff

1:07:01 and we'll go through, but we'll finish it up. We're darn close. We got four more slides. We can cover that next time. Guaranteed. Easy. We'll do that. More resources, other things to share. Thanks for hanging in there. We've almost gotten through Madag. Almost. We're that close. We're a microbe meter away. So Himalayan pink salt, a good wide mineral complex. Sure. Himalayan pink salt is, it is more expensive than just sea salt. Uh, but, um, go with it. Pink Himalayan salt, you can't go wrong. Um, and you know, if you're looking for a commercial product,

1:07:39 getting like C90, those types of things. Um, and, but also if you're near the ocean, just go get seawater and just use straight up seawater. It's probably your better, better bet in terms of cheapness and those things. But, um, Himalayan salt is good. Um, Okay, so I'll be on with Leighton tomorrow at 2 p.m. Pacific, all about the biology YouTube channel. Cool. Like, subscribe, and share, bro. Good to see you, Nathaniel. And, yeah, six continent supply chain. Yes, cool. So, cool. All these things are out there. Yeah, Lake Ontario. Well, I don't know if that's very salty, but, you know, yeah.

1:08:23 um getting sea salt is um one way to do it also if you're up in lake ontario i would imagine you can get um mineral like uh glacial dust glacial rock dust and just mineralize that way with glacial rock dust so if you can if you're not near the sun the sea you can get usually great glacial rock dust and those types of things and try some of that you know rock powders those are also good sources of, um, things. So yeah. Yeah. Hey, Cecily, thank you. Thanks everyone for tuning in. Thanks for being there. Um, hopefully I'll see you next week. I don't know what's going to

1:09:01 happen. I don't know what's going to happen. It's going to be wild. Um, yeah. And Lee, I did get your email at my private email and I just didn't get back to you, man. I've had a busy, busy week. Yeah. Azomite's good. All those things. Uh, yeah. Go to the beach. Yes. Western Australia. Okay. anyway um how's it i grow multiple plants sugar cane tarot bananas for maintenance spray what do i use for my fpj use the bananas they're the easiest have mint fpj and that is what i'm using on my maintenance solution for my tarot i just planted use the bananas bro they're the easiest

1:09:33 my email is drake d-r-a-k-e at pureknf.org uh i'll just i'll put it in there and slam it into the chat. Hopefully it pops up there. You can see it there. That's one way to reach me for sure. And Lee, I got to get back to you. I got to get that book out there. I will try. You know, I've been a little bit behind on a few things. I did ship out a book this week and I didn't make it to the post office while it was open. So I just jammed it in the box. But next time it goes, I will do it because I got an international ship. So I got to go into the post office because I

1:10:04 don't know what that's going to cost. So anyway, I will be there hopefully when the post office open. Hopefully I will do that on Thursday this week because that's when I go out to do things in town and all those things. So anyway, I appreciate y'all tuning in. Talk about decrease. Well, maybe we increase the vibes. Maybe we decrease the vibes. I don't know. Flat Eric's still over my shoulder doing good. Appreciate y'all do good regardless of what happens, you know, get an HF radio so you can communicate, get the ghost net, tune into S2 underground,

1:10:33 be part of the people taking accountability for themselves and all that. Love you. Enjoy. um i'll see you hopefully next week we'll see what happens i think it'll i think we'll be there hey thanks for the five bucks yay thank you thank you thank you rainbow possum awesome thank you thank you thank you okay all right i'll see you i gotta get out of here i gotta go gotta go gotta go okay i'm gonna close the curtain slowly ready oh hey hey lee thank you oh thank you thank you thank you okay i could stay for more super chats no anyway i gotta go i gotta go i gotta go i Appreciate it.

1:11:05 I appreciate it. Love, love. Master Chill. Everybody, you know, the whole people that make it happen. Dr. Park. Everybody, everybody involved. Okay, I'm going to go slow curtain. Bye. Slow curtain, slow curtain, slow curtain. Yay, yay, yay, yay. Bye. Love you.