Jadam Sulfur for Disease, Flea Beetles, Seed Soak Solution

0:30 the aloha natural farmers welcome to korean natural farming office hours brought to you by the pure knf foundation and i want to thank you here november 27th 2022 thanks for tuning in thanks for getting yourself here and being part of the global community and sharing the knf love coming all around um

1:16 I want to start off today, like I usually start off every office hour, with a little bit of higher inspiration. And today is the creative. So if you are alert to the creative, you will meet with good fortune now. This hexagram signals a time when the fundamental creative power of the universe is available to you. An unrestricted outpouring of benevolent energy from the heavens makes possible profound progress for those who are conscientiously following proper principles.

2:05 Frantic activity is not in order. your responsibility instead is to be open and receptive to the higher power allowing it to guide your actions by allowing inferior thoughts and habits to pass away you make room for the expansion of your superior qualities which leads inevitably to good fortune In your conduct with others, embody tolerance, reticence, and gentleness. Strive to meet others halfway in every situation.

2:51 To overextend yourself or require that of another is to create an undesirable imbalance. Your attitude towards the sage is the most important. Alertness and receptiveness are paramount. To receive the powerful assistance of the creative, remain humble, patient, and accepting. And responsive. Careful attention to truth brings vast rewards. at this time. So again, that's one of the most fundamental hexagrams there

3:36 of heaven over heaven, or yang over yang, I guess, is the way of saying it. And I also heard it before said as like sun over sun, the sun versus the moon. and interesting different translations of what these things mean, but it's the fundamental like power. That's why there's double the power. It's like right now is a really good time for a lot of things. So hope you guys had a great Thanksgiving if you're an American and or just around the world. Really a time as we head into fall, winter's coming on. I know it's already

4:26 been snowing in places that you're really able to give thanks and, you know, just appreciate the seasons, everything rolling through. You know, here in Hawaii, we don't quite get the seasons the same way, but already had our first winter swell, had about 30 foot waves rolling in down Bayfront and just huge waves breaking over the breakwater and just amazing. So winter, winter's officially here makahiki it's wet it's raining i was i watched um julia's video the other day uh she built a sauna um and and her natural farm and already looks like it was snowing there

5:09 so finland getting cold i know up there and um all that so i want to thank you guys for tuning in hope you enjoyed you know black friday and uh i bought a bunch of stuff but not on purpose i had to buy it anyway um about to about to install a hydroelectric system down in our river so i had to buy like a rotary hammer and all kinds of stuff and it was the craziest day i've ever seen at home depot in my life um i usually don't go out on black friday um but you know it's cyber monday coming up, who knows what's happening, you know, get those deals or whatever, right? No.

5:49 You know what? The microbes are free. They're always on sale. Um, you know, I, I, you know, deal with the, uh, nature, nature gives, right? You know, it's great. So, all right. So yeah, welcome you guys here, but also got, it looks like we got some good questions. Um, and uh joe doozy up in new york long island what's up you gotta say hi to a long island audit just just watch one of his uh one of his videos i love that first amendment auditing guy from new york long island um just spread he says he just spread a new imo4 application made with 10 imo

6:35 seed collections before the rain hopefully it will do its thing all winter and have a great next season that's awesome man really cool i'm glad you're able to bring all those collections together propagate them up make some great seed you know great activated imo with your soil put those out before winter it's the best time even though winter um you know it's like lower microbial activity, if you can get the microbes out before winter, all is that's like hibernating and decomposing. The microbes are still active and there's tons of moisture happening.

7:11 And I always think of it as, you know, the microbial activity that's the best activity is similar to what the I Ching talks about. It's like slow and steady instead of this rapid, like make all the IMOs, they'll work all winter crafting your soil, you know, and really making it great. So that's cool. That's really nice to hear that you are able to do that. And Dabajit Goswami is asking, what do I think about the effectiveness of Jadam sulfur for controlling disease? It's pretty darn effective. Jadam Sulfur JS, the, you know, it, sulfur, just so you know, sulfur is like one of the

8:02 longest lived pesticide, disease controlling, like anti-fungal. And, you know, it really eats away the bad fungal. But here, I'm just going to pull up here and share this with you. And this is, you know, the Jadam sulfur is nothing special other than you can make it water-soluble, or is it water-soluble? I don't know. You can make it liquid and easy to apply using Young Sang Cho's recipe. He's a chemist by trade, and so one thing he's really good at

8:47 is chemistry and um he he figured out how to make this you know um liquid at a lower temperature you know so he as a chemist he he tells the story of how he got super blitz drunk on vodka and then he had this idea of wow why not use um potassium hydroxide or no, I think it's sodium hydroxide, use sodium hydroxide, which heats up to this hot temperature and make sulfur. So here's sulfur. It's really good. And, you know, it's, it's a, it occurs, it just comes out of the ground, you know, here on the big island, we have a natural

9:30 lava vent that's constantly putting out sulfur all the time, you know, so I could go grab some from the national park if it was allowed. And it says right here, sulfur is used in matches, insecticides, and fungicides. So right there, you know, that's, you know, right on the Wikipedia page, which I'm not saying Wikipedia is a good source, but it's saying right there, insecticides and fungicides. So, and then if we do scroll down here a little bit, I'm just going to skip down and go into application here and go to a fertilizer. So it itself, sulfur, is not only

10:16 that, it's an essential element for life. So sulfur is necessary in there. You can read all about it. It's an antioxidant, glutamine. It helps protect against free radicals, oxidization, stress, all these, all these things that you need. Um, and hang on one sec, I'll make this thing bigger. And so it helps, you know, all these things it's already in onions and garlic, which is why, you know, garlic's used, um, in can of medicine. It's one of the things of it. Um, and uh you know if you add too much of it um which yeah this this live eggs minimum thing

11:05 it's it's not a limiting nutrient so you can apply as much as you want and it's not gonna limit other nutrients it's just gonna kill other things and be too gnarly if you apply too much so but doesn't limit other things so that's nice um and you know it's in gypsum it's all it's all in these things of where you find it. So, and then here's an interesting paragraph for us. Over time, oxidization, abiotic processes with atmospheric oxygen and soil bacteria can oxidize and convert elemental sulfur to soluble derivatives, which then can be used by microorganism and plants.

11:46 So, the microbes themselves will oxidize the sulfur out over time and actually create sulfur in just from breaking down other compounds in your soil. So the, you know, there you go. That's like, so if you just, instead of applying the sulfur, you just increase your soil bacteria, more sulfur will be available and you'll get this natural system happening. So that's one way to think of it. And it says sulfur improves the efficiency of other essential plant nutrients, particularly nitrogen and phosphorus. so you know it can help improve your your um uptake of nitrogen and phosphorus which is you

12:32 know so it's essential but you don't want to apply too much like the jadam sulfur is like straight up like a way too heavy of a dose that what you would get naturally um and biologically produced sulfur particles are hydrophilic due to their biopolymer coating which are easy to disperse over the land and spray in a diluted slurry, resulting in faster uptake by plants. And then plant requirements for sulfur equals or exceeds the requirements for phosphorus, an essential nutrient for growing plant growth. And it also helps make root node formations in legumes to bring in more nitrogen

13:19 and immunity and defense systems. And it says sulfur deficiency has become widespread in many countries in Europe. Interesting. So maybe you guys do need to amend it. I don't know why, but yeah. Okay. And then here as a pesticide, this is what you're kind of asking about. Can it control disease? so dusting sulfur um but dusting it is not as good they do dust it out but you're better off to make the jadam sulfur meaning that you dissolve this um sulfur into with um sodium hydroxide and a little bit of dirt and um what else is in that recipe i think that's pretty much it

14:07 and you it boils and then when it boils it becomes water soluble and then um you know it It was used, the only fungicide used organically farmed apple production against apple scab under colder conditions. And so, and it, you know, it says here it also has a wide range of powdery mildew diseases as well as black spot. And in organic production, sulfur is the most important fungicide. fungicide. However, I always recommend, you know, lactobacillus, the KNF protectors, putting those out, putting good IMO. If you're using sulfur, it means that you probably are lacking the good

14:52 biology. Because otherwise there would be natural sulfur uptake, unless maybe you're in Europe where it said you guys have deficiencies. In which case, you know, go head over to Iceland and just borrow some sulfur from them or wherever they're doing, um, you know, petroleum refinement, you'll find a bunch of sulfur as a, as a by-product. Um, so, and then, and then they're, they're saying the standard formulation is dusting it. Dusting is not as effective. Wettable sulfur, um, you know, but, but even better is the, um, is the way that Young Song's

15:33 making it. It's better than wettable sulfur. Um, and, um, yeah, and you can also, if you're doing, um, farming, it's also good against ticks and mites. Um, yeah, and, you know, and it's not really that harmful to humans. Um, so you can just dust it on yourself. Um, yeah, and it'll destroy ringworm fungus, mange, dermatitis, and other parasites. And another way to do it is sulfur candles, like burning it in your, if you're doing it in a greenhouse, burning it and fumigating your greenhouse if you're having problems. But again, good IMOs and good things. And after you

16:23 use sulfur, as soon as you're done using sulfur, you want to come back with good IMOs and good microbes to put those back in there. You don't want to have the, you know, just use the sulfur. It's kind of like nuking everything out and then you want to restore the good fungus back. But I've heard really thick fungus with a good cell wall is immune to fungus, or is, excuse me, is immune to sulfur. So that if you're having a, you know, using sulfur is not going to harm your really good fungus it'll just take out those lower

16:59 thinner less developed cell wall funguses so um so hey yeah super chats woo thanksgiving thank you thanks for thanks for being given those i really appreciate it thank you bird amazing here um so anyway that's that's sulfur in a nutshell jadam sulfur a really effective way of getting it out using it uh doing it and making it happen um and let's see here how would i kill flea nettles i don't know i'm not sure what a flea nettle is but sulfur seems like a good candidate again right here it kills ticks and mites but what is a flea nettle let's ask duck duck go I don't know what a flea nettle is.

17:47 Is it a nettle itself? Or is it stinging nettles? Flea beetles? I don't know. You've confused even the search engine. But I don't know what a flea nettle is. But if you're going to kill bugs, you know, Young Sang Cho has a lot of bug-killing recipes. A lot of it combines with soap. Soap breaks the surface tension, gets hit against the pest, and then the sulfur gets in there and penetrate and kill. It'll kill pretty much any pest besides beetles. Beetles are really hard to kill. They have all this armor plating. They're designed like they're ancient warriors from the pest world.

18:32 But 10 centimeters of snow already in Finland. Oh my gosh. You guys, no wonder you built that sauna. Hope you are in there getting warm right now. Get a waterproof computer, get in there and enjoy. It sounds cold to me. Yeah, and Print Bear, Printer Bear, is talking to Joe here about being in Connecticut and wasn't sure if it made sense to apply IMO in fall. if you can apply some in fall let it kind of hibernate all winter do its thing and then apply a new coat right in spring and grow out IMO indoors totally do it indoors you know a couple weeks ago let's see here let

19:28 me get this up here and get this over here I got to switch which account it's using get to my foundation email here and um just show you you know if you're gonna do it indoors um where where was it yeah here so this is this is stonemason in indiana um doing this here where he's doing it indoors and let me switch this over or just slide this over a bit um so he's doing it indoors um and he's up in a little wood box type of thing that he's made and he's turning his pile indoors so if you're gonna make IMO in the winter it's easier because there's less um temp you know

20:18 it's easier to keep it under 120 degrees and he's putting this straw on top and it looks like it's mixing in a little bit but look at that nice IMO 4 steaming um and he's getting great you know my mycelium grow out in this as he's looking through it. Um, so, um, so it's better to not collect it in winter cause it's just hard, but like master Cho was saying, collect in all seasons and yeah, seeing this where you're doing it, man, that's, that's awesome. Um, and yeah, grow out the IMOs indoors like he's doing. That's awesome, man. It's a great way to spend your winter time where you can

20:59 have a little bit more time to be here and maintain it. You got this nice little square shovel to turn it. And yeah, I even use like here, you know, here in Hawaii, I use like a big snow shovel to turn it, right? And great, great use. Go out, shovel the snow off the sidewalk, come in, shovel the IMOs inside, right? Freeze your butt off outside and then come in and jump into your IMO pile, get a warm sauna, and enjoy that. So, flea beetles, let me see here. Flea beetles. Flea beetle. Flea beetle, here we go. This is what he's talking about, transition these.

21:50 flea beetles these ones look pretty easy to kill um classic recipe is to take you know um soap it looks like even soap might kill these bad boys um but soap and a little sulfur um both those like the the soap dilute about one to two hundred ish and dilute the sulfur one to five or one to a thousand. Spray it on these guys and try and get it soapy and sudsy and spray gunning on there and you'll probably kill those. They don't look too hardcore. Let's see. And especially easy to kill them in this stage when they're in a larva. This is the time when there's breeding out there

22:32 on the leaves. Spray it on these, you'll kill those guys, no problem. They do look a little bit more armored once they grow up. But they may be beneficial species. They may be beneficial or may be pests depending on the species. So make sure you're not killing the beneficial guys. You know, check that out. And it looks like you can also discourage them by companion planting you know cropped you know thyme catnip mint uh kind of and and all these things for example where they're talking about thyme catnip and mint um those are great things to

23:18 boil down so take a bunch of mint put it in a pot and add water so you're covering the material and boil it down till you've reduced half the water then pour that water off and use that thick like mint water, thyme water, catnip water, and then include that with sulfur, with the soap in your spray and spray it on these beetles and you will mess them up, right? Because these things here, the mint, the catnip, the thyme, they already don't like those. So if you spray it on them, you'll mess them up. So think of that, use, you know, the herbal solution as well as the sulfur,

23:56 as well as the soap, right? Combine all three of those and spray that on there, you know, and I'm just doing, you know, basic Wikipedia research here, man. I'm not, you know, I'm just taking these natural farming things, trying to understand what it is. Um, and yeah, you know, um, so anyway, those, those are good things to do there. Get those things together. Um, yeah so flea beetles um and what is the major difference between um the IMO and the the disgustingly cheap microbes known as Jadam microbe solution

24:38 one is that IMOs is very sophisticated it's it's it's tuned to your soil it's what you want the Jadam Microbe Solution. I've talked about this a bunch of times, so feel free to go to knfsupport.com and support. Let me pull this up here. So if you're curious, I've talked about this a whole bunch. You can go to knfsupport.com. Click on, you can even search here, IMOJMS, and see if there's any answers here. Did anyone ask this? I'm pretty sure. No, looks like there wasn't a direct question on this, so maybe you could ask that.

25:22 But you could also go to the office hours and search these past episodes and go IMO, JMS, and search these. And you will find that if then I got to, I really should set this up so it'll highlight what you've talked about. But go through and find here, you know, for instance, on this episode, I talked about it. You know, that one, all about disgustingly cheap microbes on this episode here, June 5th, right? So you can go search these past episodes. I've talked about this a whole bunch. I know I have. It's a commonly asked question. So go search.

26:06 But the basic idea is that JMS is disgustingly cheap microbes, whereas IMO is very sophisticated, very time-consuming. And IMO, when you make proper IMO, it's so much more effective in so many ways. But JMS is just quick, dirty, get started, and go for it. Um, so, um, and if you're asking about how to collect indoors, again, this is like a common thing here, but if you go to my channel, you click down below, right? Um, and you go to my channel, you'll come to this page similar to this here. Uh, let me transition over so you can see what

26:56 I'm seeing. So you come, you know, click on that channel. You'd come to this thing here. You'd see this and, um, you can search here, which for some reason, the search moved way over here. Uh, can I actually search here? Search. And I'd look for IMO endure. And here's how to collect IMOs indoors. And so watch, watch this video here. But basically what you'll find is it's not just a handful of leaf litter. It is a whole, um, a whole lot of leaf litter. Like, uh, and here we are moistening it up, um, with a hose. Let me just mute this.

27:39 But you know, it's a whole lot of leaf litter and here he is moistening this up, right? So it's not just a handful that you want to collect from. It's enough that has good mycelium in it growing. in fact I'd recommend you grab a decent amount of the soil coming from there and um where is it where's him moistening it up let's see yeah here spraying it with water is he going to spray it with water we can actually see him spraying it with water but he's moistening it up to get it moist and then here then we're taking the IMOs and burying them in um you know making sure the

28:18 rice is all good and everything, uh, really making sure that rice is good, then actually burying them into this pile and doing it indoors. So if you're going to do it indoors, you can do it like this, but it's not just a handful of leaf litter. It's a lot, right? It's a whole big ton of it that you want to bring in there. So, um, so yeah, do it indoors that way. If you're to do it in winter. That way we're insulated inside and doing that. And don't mix the leaf mold into your rice. Well, that's not how you want to do it. You want to actually bury it into this

28:56 leaf mold. And Rainbow Possum Farm is adding a good comment here that killing too much of the pest population can cause the species that would normally eat them to leave the area too. Absolutely true. That's why the sulfur is really a gnarly thing to use because it doesn't just kill your target species. It kills all your species around there. And so you really got to be careful with what you're doing. That's why, again, I recommend you go a probiotic route. And instead of trying to kill some species, typically what happens is why there's pests is because a plant is stressed.

29:38 And it's like screaming out. You ever seen the, let me, since I'm on YouTube, this clip from Predator where, let me see here, Predator. Let me just get this right here. And this is basically what happens with your pests here, is this one. Come on. Do it. Do it! Come on. Come on. Kill me! I'm here! Kill me!

30:24 I'm here! Kill me! Come on! Kill me! I'm here! Come on! Do it now! Kill me! So basically, that's what's happening. That's what's happening in your soil, right? The plant is just yelling at the pest. Come on, kill me, kill me now. You know, so if you got a whole bunch of pests and they're eating your plants, that's what's happening. Your plant's stressed, it's sick, it's injured, it's yelling, kill me, kill me now. Those pests are coming as janitors to help clean out that thing, eat it, get to the chopper. I'm not going to do that clip because

31:07 There's only so many clips you can watch for educational fair use before they demonetize you. But basically the pest, you know, the plant is just yelling, kill me now. And the pests are just coming to kill them. And if you got a whole bunch of pests that are eating it, you may as well strengthen your plant, right? You may as well make it strong and fix the roots and have them naturally uptake sulfur and really fix the root of your problem, right? They would say the root of your problem, right? It's probably your roots are probably having problems, right?

31:36 If you got weak roots, you got bad soil, then you're going to have pests. You're going to have problems above. And trying to fix those problems above when you didn't fix your foundation crumbling below, you're not going to really end up with good things. I mean, just ask Stonemason about that. I'm sure he can tell you that, you know, you can't really build on a poor foundation. So that's why he's making IMO. That's why we're doing the right things. And, you know, that's the good thing. So, um, so anyway, here, um, Drake, I had some cucumber plant juice turn to a chocolate

32:15 milk looking solution all the way through the jar. What happened? Super saturated and cooled. Um, is it still smell good? I don't know. If you had a plant juice turn bad on you like that, the cucumber is super watery, super liquidy. So it is somewhat hard to super saturate it just because there's so much water in it. But does it, I mean, does it still smell good? I don't know. I mean, like, if it churned at chocolate milk, I've never seen that happen on my things. Not sure. um but okay um

33:02 yeah if you have a new invasive pest wipe it out you know ask the pilgrims about that one um the native americans like should have taken care of that pest the first time um yeah um it all works out okay cool and you guys talking about that stuff yeah store it yeah okay okay so yeah okay okay yeah so so these ways of doing it culturing IMOs making all these things happen

33:50 And it looks like I've kind of caught up to most of the questions here. I appreciate it from you guys. It's good. That's what the office hours are for. Again, you want to catch the past episodes, knfsupport.com. Check it out. Check these things out. And let's see, where am I on the office hours? Looks like November 13th. Looks like I've got to upload the last two here, make sure they're linked here. and also want to just take a quick shout out right now um to the crew that is putting in the table of

34:23 contents although it looks like i need to upload a few of them but check this out we're back we're at october 2nd already and i know there's more in the queue for me to upload but check this out the table of contents right you can go through here and um jennifer as well as suzanna and i think mitchell's going to help with this too coming on here that we're getting these table of contents where it's like you can just look through here and understand what this episode is all about. Like right here, you can find out about the IMO bath, you know, doing an IMO pile on a smaller scale,

34:56 Professor Kim teaching in Korea, all these things, you know. So it's really about all these things, you know, is a still backpack sprayer good, all these things. So the table of contents are coming up and really appreciate the crew, the whole, you know, time, energy, effort, everything that goes into this. You know, people that do it tell me they really enjoy doing this. Yeah, and yeah, I got to get you coordinated with the other folks doing it, actually, Mitchell. So thanks. I appreciate it.

35:28 And, you know, so all these things here, getting these table of contents going, you know, and they're happening. And so it's cool to see, you know, having this happen. So that way when you search here and you search for, you know, I don't know, pests. Let's just try, you know, search for anything. And it's like, oh, look at all these results that came back with pests, you know. And maybe I should set this up so it'll just filter out just the answer. But there's three episodes that talk significantly about pests, obviously.

36:02 and um it's so nice to see these um you know these episodes come up this way and be here and be indexable and really appreciate it you know we've been doing this for over a year to make it happen it's so much information happening and looks like i need to get up on this knf support and answer some of these questions here um ish ice shack 99 has been asking a whole bunch so i gotta get up there and get on it. Sometimes, you know, Thanksgiving and all this happening, it was hard for me to do it. But also want to let you know, before, I'm going to get into this presentation

36:43 here that we've been covering, and I'm going to jump into this, which, you know, we've made it through IMO 1, 2, 3, 4. What slide are we on here even? What page is this? I don't know. Let me see here. Did we look at these? No, we didn't. Did we look at that? No, we didn't. Did we look at this? I think this is, no, where'd we go? We were here. We were here, number 57. So we finished how to utilize IMO, right? We finished this. So, but before I jump into that, I just wanted to, um, I wanted to read this to you guys, cause this was super inspiring

37:29 to me that we had two, two entries come in for the merit contest of, um, of the, the contest that Pure KNF Foundation was sponsoring for getting the all-access pass to the HFUU convention happening December 1st through the 4th, I reckon. But you can check out full details at hfuu.org. And if you're on Maui, check them out. Come there. We're going to... Pure KNF Foundation will be there with an IMO pile and all kinds of solutions going off. And it's only, it's a couple of days away. It's like, oh man, I got to get ready. My wife just came back yesterday

38:14 and now we got to get ready to travel again. So getting the farm all secured for that. But I want to just read these to you. And this one was our number one entry, but unfortunately this person could not attend the conference or the convention, but I want to just read it to you. So the question was, How has Korean natural farming influenced your approach to regenerative agriculture? So her answer is, KNF has danced around the peripheral edges of my knowing and understanding until the time was right. Now I see it as a key to wholeness and healing, beginning with self and expanding outward.

38:57 It goes deeper and higher, and in this knowing, we now envision native restoration on the land we steward. KNF has influenced our why, our how, and our when. It has also helped us understand who we are. In this quantum world of possibilities, we have a true modality of modern, yet ancient origin to heal our world. There is time. And IMO's exponential rate of healing and growth and expansion are our healing co-conspirators. So that's pretty cool.

39:43 And then our number one that ended up winning is Sherry here. And Sherry goes by the alias. Let me see here. Is it? Okay. Anyway, her winning entry was this one. It was, before I knew about KNF, farming was a science project devoid of living microorganisms that gives our soil the essence of life. I learned how to work with the land, feeding it effective and indigenous microorganisms to heal the microbiome of the land and use the same microorganisms to eat up the stinkiness in my chicken coop.

40:38 with the help of wood chips, which I all learned from Korean natural farming. So that's our winning entry and really, you know, an approach to changing the approach to regenerative agriculture, right? And influencing that and bring in just this hope, you know, this sense of like, you know, if you think about it and it's like, it's kind of like regenerative agriculture, what are you doing? it may be devoid of this life, but once you understand these microbes and you understand this depth, it's like, dang, I'm tending little, little guys that are helping me build a better,

41:16 um, better soil, everything. So, um, so yeah. So, um, yeah, get the, get the person on the show. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe, maybe, um, we, you know, I'm not sure where she's, she's at in the state. I actually got to email her back and find out about that. I've been just, I've been busy and building the shed. I'm actually plumbing it out right now, getting it so that I have two sinks, two big sinks to wash produce and clean things and keep it all nice and all like that. So, so without further ado, let me get to the,

41:58 back to this presentation so dropping this presentation from master cho here um trying to translate it into the english that i can and give you this presentation been covering this over the past i don't know four or five weeks and it's really cool for me because i feel like tapping into this older knowledge the wisdom of master cho all these things and but bringing it to the forefront for you guys in English of showing, you know, like this dude before IMO, you know, had hard soil. Now look, he's taking a grounding rod and just shoving it into the ground. So

42:34 anybody who's an electrician, you know, and pounds these rods in, hey man, just inoculate them with IMOs for a season and come back and be like, you know what, we'll ground this house next season. And then just drive it in with hand and be like, watch this and just sink that rod in, right? Wow. How would that be? I don't think that'll be safer to code, but hey, you could do it. So, you know, this was ending up last week, you know, basically talking about how to apply the IMO. If you have, you know, without disorder, you can just put IMO one week before and then put the

43:15 the liquids, right? You know, I talked about this last week. And then if you have problems in your field two weeks before planting, put down the IMO and then do again, put the liquids down one week before you plant. Um, sometimes you can even do that for a month and it really is helpful. But this week, um, want to get into crops, cultivation, environment recovery. so you can you can figure out what master chow means by that one on your own but um crops cultivation environment recovery for some reason i think that's a direct

43:53 kringlish translation um but again he revisits this which we've already covered in here where he compares that rice is carbon, oxygen, hydrogen, which is Cho times sunlight, right? So God plus Cho is very similar to flesh. So we as human beings are not much different of this, right? We're Cho plus nitrogen. You know, that's the one difference, right? We have nitrogen and that's what makes amino acids and is the basis of all those, you know, which makes RNA, which makes, you know, widgets, which builds our structure, right? So DNA, RNA, you know, there is some nitrogen in the

44:41 rice, obviously, and it's DNA. But really, we're flesh with the nitrogen, we're this living, more proteinaceous type of thing. So again, he's just making this similarity that human health And plant health is pretty darn related, just chemically, looking at it that way. And so he's saying that in natural farming, there's three kind of prerequisites of things you got to do. One is your soil groundwork, which is what I was talking about earlier. Making good soil, putting the IMOs down, making sure your soil is ready to receive your seeds.

45:26 Number two is the seed groundwork. So this is like a seed soak solution and really getting good, you know, making sure their seeds are healthy and able to be in there and then developing the crops potential, meaning that the more I sow seeds, the seeds will naturalize to an area. so if I get seeds and I order them off the internet and I go to Johnny Seeds which if you're an HFUU farm member member of the Hawaii Farmers Union you get 10% off at Johnny Seeds and Territorial Seeds and all these seed companies that are great out there so if you want to save some money join the Hawaii Farmers Union

46:09 jump in on that I advertise for them I used to be president of the East Hawaii chapter I'm no longer, but I still like the farmer's union. It's a great thing. So developing your seed over time. This means like, you know, selective breeding, getting things better, picking the stronger crops, getting the seeds from your best crop, resewing those, right? So these are the three basic things you can do to improve your crop year over year. Better genetics, making sure you're soaking your seeds well, and then also improving your

46:47 soil over time and more IMOs, more everything, right? Although don't be a more on, right? The less on is not to be a more on. So here again, going into the soil groundwork, what does that mean? Like, how am I going to make this soil better for this power lifting baby seed here? Number one with the soil is stop tilling, right? If you stop tilling, your soil starts to develop more texture, more airspace, more water retention. It holds water better.

47:32 You're not breaking up your mycelial networks, you know, so it's counterintuitive because we always think to amend and till till and amend right that's the classic like market gardener and he's saying stop tilling like don't do it don't and don't amend that way but actually make stronger plants make better soil make things better so what he's saying is and this is this is totally applicable for right now you know while while before it's snowing while it's snowing is stop tilling the ground but then using rice straw or fallen leaves for mulching so again i

48:06 I was watching a YouTube of this guy, like using a blower and this thing to suck up leaves, which, you know, you end up watching crazy stuff on YouTube. If you, you know, don't have children, I guess. And, or even your kids maybe watch this, but it's like all those leaves and he's sucking them up into a truck. He's taking them off someone's yard and sucking them into a truck and then probably taking them to the dump or something. It's like, what are you doing, man? So find your neighbors, tell them, Hey, I'll get all your leaves.

48:35 Go get, suck them all up for your neighbor's yard, bring them over to your yard, put your IMO down and use these fallen leaves. Like pile those things like a foot tall on there. And over winter, they'll all break down and you'll have the richest soil, right? And you're building up, you're building soil work. So, you know, in my case here, you know, what's really effective for me is to drop piles of wood chips. You know, I drop, I drop down some fish first and then I drop some wood chips on top of that.

49:03 and man is that effective it's just like because because in the tropics leaves break down so fast right so i gotta actually go to wood chips where i get that the um the you know more um higher lignin type of content otherwise the leaves just they're gone so fast the grass it's just it's gone um so it depends on what i'm growing but um but building soil by putting down mulch right and building up. Don't incorporate this into the soil, build up. And then using IMO4 for rebuilding the microorganism balance in the soil, right? So it's not about just getting microbes,

49:42 it's about getting soil microbes that are very diverse and balanced, right? As you add in all these different microbes that you took from your area, you culture them through the IMO1 through four process of like bulking them up, taking those guys, training them. It's like sending them to school and you bring them back to your land. You put them down, they will balance and rebuild with what you have there. Yeah, Mitchell right on getting, taking, doing yard work like, like, you know, a great, great job during the fall. Go work and break people's leaves, pay, have them pay

50:20 you to get their leaves and then bring them home and build the biggest garden and then sell them the vegetables next season. Like, man, talk about cycle and permaculture and like modern Babylonian permaculture, man. Get paid to pick up their leaves. Like, yes. Like, instead of paying to buy mulch, get paid to actually get the mulch, right? That's, you know, putting your thinking cap on, you know. But yeah, putting the IMO4 down. So all these, you know, stop tilling, put the microbes, put the mulch. This is really, that's your main thing to build soil, right?

50:58 So we can look at this here. It's a little picture that thanks to the Japanese folks that drew these nice little pictures here. You know, look at that nice apple tree. And most people think that there's not supposed to be grass in the orchard. That's what this guy is saying. Like, There's not supposed to be tall grass, right? You're supposed to keep it all bare. You know, you look at people and they think that this grass is competing for water or nutrients. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no. This grass is actually keeping your microbes there. It's photosynthesizing.

51:28 It's bringing more carbon, more life into it. Insects live in the grass so then they don't climb up into your tree, right? If this was bare beneath it, what would go in there, you know? So if you look at like the orange groves in Florida or like the almond groves in California and stuff where they're growing these things, it's always bare underneath. It's like they sprayed a whole bunch of Roundup and just killed everything and then they're trying to get their trees to grow. It's like, no, let the grass happen. The thing you don't want is the grass to grow up into your canopy, right?

52:01 If your grass, you get tall grass and it grows up like it does here and it gets up into your canopy, that's when it electrically shorts it out, right? so you're you know it's all electricity and your tree can't do what it needs to do if it's being shorted out by the grass so if it's growing into the canopy and it's getting into your leaves then cut it but leaving grass and leaving a natural ground cover underneath we you know again last last week we were looking at um at the um you know actually i'm not gonna pull it up but but

52:36 we were looking at the persimmon farm with all wild grass under there, right? And then furthermore here, he's saying that instead of just let, you know, you can let wild grass grow, but you can also sow rye for the fall and spring and the rye grass will grow down nice deep rooted and then put in seed clover for the spring and fall so that these plants pop up in the spring and fall, these and then the rye pops up for the through fall through spring right and so you always have this ground cover happening down below and the more you can seed into this wild grass these

53:13 specific um these specific types of plants now you're like cover cropping intentionally and the rye and the clover where it's more temperate is like the winner right there's also like hairy vetch and there's a few other things like that you can seed in here intentionally but throw a bunch of seed in there and let it sprout let it come up and so instead of tilling and trying to get it all down intentionally put in good things and the rye the roots stretch more deeply which enables the microorganisms to go deeply so that you know they can self-cultivate

53:51 and then start to pioneer deep down and insects live in the grass and they don't climb into the tree because the grass is, you know, the tree is taller than the grass. So they stay down here. And then he's talking about the clover, that it's leguminous. So it provides more, more nitrogen, which is going to be beneficial from your spring to fall, right over that summertime period that you have this more nitrogen, more access for more growth. It's going to happen during that time when there's more sunlight. And then, and he also says rice,

54:26 you know he's always talking about rice rice and corn and these things but rice will grow in here as well and it makes it so other grasses can't grow as well if you have the rye and the clover right um and again when he's talking about this um you see this ring around this tree this is where he's talking about amending here um and it says in fall spraying mixed fermented fertilizer soil which is you know soil the the can of fuel which is amino acids and a can of food which is a plant juice in a donut and covering it with rice straw and grass around each tree if you

55:07 do this donut and amend it with IMO the fuel and the food right in this area now your roots are going to reach into this right in fall and really pick all that up all winter and decompose so next spring your plant will just take off and go and so if you're in an orchard it's not like you have to ubiquitously cover everything with nutrients you really want to do this donut type tech where you're really amending right here out at where the where the drip zone is and it helps also prevent evaporation and moisture. So this is where you're going to mulch, you know, don't spread your mulch

55:47 just ubiquitously ever kind of pilot right in the root zone and plant seed, seed cover crops and all those things in there. Um, I think, I don't think this is to scale Aaron, but, but anyway, yeah, good, good, good observation on that. I don't think he drew this to scale because it would be hard to show all in one, one picture. I don't think this dude is also too like an inch tall. I don't think it's to scale because this dude is as tall as this tree maybe maybe but it is Japanese so maybe it's a bonsai maybe that's what's happening is it's all bonsai and this is like a

56:22 you know a regular sized guy or maybe it's just you know a short vertically challenged guy that's chilling I don't know but anyway this is how it goes that's what he's talking about there's a nice little cartoon for you and then here it is where we're talking about insects before it's like there's you know there's no harmful insects because your your system's rich right and there's like the like the virus you know like like they're going to be good your disease are going to be good and the microbes here will will prevent you know once you got good microbes living

57:02 in here they prevent things from happening right they keep they keep the bad guys at bay they'll eat them the beneficial guys will eat them the richer your scenario is the more it's self-managing right um and yeah and it enables it says here each of the microorganisms exercise their power meaning like you let the microbes express themselves and actually do their work like this is how a natural forest comes to life stays healthy you know as it's cycling all the leaves are falling, the IMOs are growing, you know, you think of it in fall, right? All the leaves fall

57:39 and they pile up and like, this is the way it's supposed to be, you know? Um, and in it, and it says here, the only thing we can do is rediscovery and making environment. So, you know, that's kind of cringlish here, but it's saying, you know, don't try to like juice the plant and give it all this stuff. It's like, you're just copying what naturally happens, right? And fall, the leaves fall, they fall right in the root zone and you're just copying that the microbes grow they do this right so you're just you're making the environment by copying what's happening you know rich soil like that

58:12 versus you know a plant that's struggling where it's been tilled and it doesn't have what it needs right look at this guy with this happy little plant there look at how happy that dude is right and so you got to be like that guy you know and stop tilling and do these things so here again here's here's the ideas for you know if you're doing more row crops like this um this is what uh master cho is doing where every other row is rye right so he's cultivating the rye and in the area where he's gonna plant his plants he brings these um this you know i think this is

58:49 like a mesh that lets sunlight in but keeps bugs off because i think this is zucchini or something that he's doing here. But basically what he's doing here is going, you know, step one, like make your row, right? Mow the row that you're going to cultivate. Step two, kind of shade it out and plant your plants under it. Now you get your plants growing here. You still got your tall rye on either side, right? The bugs are going to be happy there. Then number four, you come back with your, your, uh, you know, um, sickle, uh, you know, one, one of the best tools I have,

59:24 let me, let me just, let me just pull this up and, uh, go to this. Um, and, uh, one of the best, uh, hang on, I think I'm going to put an attachment on there because this, I can tell you one of the best tools I have on my, um, on my um on my my my weed whackers instead of using line trimmer i use this thing here man this thing where where this is this one isn't articulating this is the straight hedger but man the articulating one this one right here this one looks like it's ryobi i use a still um but this thing here, ah, this is, this is still the straight one. Let me see this other one, the,

1:00:15 the Ryobi one that I had, right? This one, this one is articulating, but this here, man, this little attachment where you have this thing articulated out and you can get right down. And instead of whipping all the grass, you just cut it. And it's like a power side to go right through. This was one of the best tools I, I, uh, I've ever had here. Um, but, but bring that tool and just cut through all this grass, right? So he's just dropping all of this right next to this plant. So he's keeping, you know, he's keeping this row back. And then you can take this and mulch into here

1:00:49 and or just chop and drop it right here. So you're bringing all this soil. So, and then here again, you know, this is just, he takes this cover off. The plants are big enough to grow out at this point. And then they grow into this hedge place. So maybe this is watermelons. It looks like a watermelon, maybe. Maybe it wasn't zucchini. I'm not sure exactly what he's growing but this type of system where you can grow and you grow your cover crop next to it and you cut it down this is like in situ doing this so um

1:01:18 yeah and then uh you know leaf mold like this again you know uh mulching mulching in between with all this and then here again the rice straw with his irrigation lines looks like that's lettuce or some leafy green that he's growing, but putting the rice straw down or, you know, wild grass straw or something that's not going to, you know, cause too many problems. But this type of stuff, man, this is how to really, really grow and get it great for you. And then, you know, as you start to do this, look into the soil. You'll see it's aggregating. You'll see it's like

1:01:56 You pull out the roots and they're covered in mycelial connections. Look at those nice worms. This soil looks so rich. As you're walking out there, you're mulching it. You're doing your thing. Now you don't have to till this. You don't have to worry about disease. The roots are reaching out there. They're doing their thing. That's where it's at. And this is the whole core of natural farming, right? Good soil, making it happen, right? and um here again there's this dude again he loves this picture but dude is able to take a

1:02:32 grounding rod and shove it in and look he's he's kind of old it's not like this guy works out you know how much can he lift not that much well maybe maybe he's just like a sleeper right just like super muscular under there and it's like dude's really like it's a young guy just wearing like an old man haircut he's just like oh this young guy or or maybe it's really an old dude doing this They were like, look, you know, he's able to drive this through, you know? And so that's how to do soil, right?

1:03:02 When you can take a rod like this and jam it all the way down, then you probably won't have pest pressure. You probably won't have all these things. And you've achieved, right? This is like getting the gold medal of KNF. Like, how do you know when you've done enough microbes when you can jam it all the way through? So let me see here. Yeah, okay. I just got a little two more little slides here and we'll finish this up because I'm getting there. But seed groundwork. What do you do? Modern seeds. Modern seeds are weak, right?

1:03:32 You know, maybe the parents had fungus on them and there's actual bad microbes in there. Maybe they're addicted to drugs, you know, alcohol. They're boozing up. The seeds are weak today. It just is. Maybe you're getting them from somewhere off the Internet. Maybe, you know, you have no idea. So what do you do? you make a seed treatment solution right and it says soak four to eight hours the slower seeds germinate the longer they should be soaked so you take your seeds put them in some gauze like this

1:04:03 a strainer thing and you put them into the seed treatment liquid liquid right here right what is the seed treatment liquid it is in the book here all right let me see here and if you don't have the book knfsupport.com get the book here it is the seed formula right here it is food cleanser medicine structure fuel and minerals all those combined in that ratio like this and you mix that dilute it up and then make enough to soak your seeds into here and soak them between 48 hours sometimes it's a little bit a little bit less than four hours because some seeds germinate really

1:04:47 fast so if your seeds are germinating very fast four hours maybe too long you don't want them to sprout in this you just want to soak them in soak them they'll absorb it into their tissue they'll also you can make a liquid IMO and put that in there and they'll absorb all that in there and then you can dry your seeds out to then load them in a seeder or manually seed them wet however you're going to do it you can actually dry them out after this which I find to be helpful a lot of times. So this is what you want to do to give your seeds all the benefit they need.

1:05:22 So again, here's the liquid treatment. They pull out the seeds after soaking, and it says sow before getting dried. And it's not good for a sower, but you can dry them out again. It's really not a big deal. They sow them in, and they say they're more vigorous, right? The untreated seed is small versus the treated seed will have a thick cotylin. It has really good root development, and it's also more resilient to disease like dampening off or, you know, all these seedling problems we have because it comes out and it just has better roots and better cotylin.

1:06:04 So it can get that sunlight in there better before it puts out its first real leaves, right? so um so that's how to improve your seeds and then the last one uh seedling groundwork um you know same thing you can take your um your like say i'm going to transplant this i take the transplants i soak them in this same seedling treatment solution for 15 seconds it says i usually do it about a couple minutes because i'm just i put the whole tray in and then by the time i'm planting out i'm not that fast at it um so i just soak them as long as

1:06:39 I'm soaking them and they they'll absorb all this liquid and then transplant them and then again it says apply the liquid this treatment liquid whatever is left over on there after transplanting them right you don't want to water them a whole bunch with a whole bunch of water instead you want to put on the transplant solution so that's basically in a nutshell how to summarize this again of going where you know we're doing the three things of where is it we're developing crops potential that's on you but the seed groundwork and the soil groundwork here to do

1:07:16 basically what he's saying crops cultivation environment recovery so that was today's um today's bit it looks like next week the next slide after this one we are getting into what Master Cho calls Oriental Herbal Nutrient, which we call KNF Medicine. So I want to thank you guys for tuning in. I want to thank, hopefully you're out there teaching people, doing natural farming. Really want to shout out Master Cho, all his work. You know, I wouldn't be here doing this today if it weren't for him. Korean Natural Farming, the Pure KNF Foundation,

1:07:55 making this office hours happen, trying to make the world a better place. Hope you guys can do the same. Um, I will not be here next week. Next week is the HFU convention and I will be on Maui doing the HFUU convention. Um, so next week you'll have to figure out, uh, you know, maybe go do KNF and get it together and be out there because I won't be here next week. And then I will be here the following week, though. I will be here the 11th, and then I am taking the 18th off. I am going to a handgun course, and I'm getting a pistol.

1:08:42 You know, keep pigs away and make sure that my natural farm stays natural. So I won't be here. So December is going to be kind of spotty. I'll be here the 11th and then the 18th. I won't be here. And the 25th, I won't be here either because it's Christmas. And then I'm not sure if I will make it here for New Year's. Looks like all these fall and Sunday. So it's going to be a little sparse coming up of office hours and things. But I'll be back on the 11th. And if you're in Maui, check me out. The HFU convention. Love to see you there. and hope you guys all have a wonderful time.

1:09:25 See you in December 11th and enjoy. So yeah, I want to thank you for tuning in. Again, KNF support, peer KNF, all those things. And I also do still have a course coming up January, starting soon. So if you're into that and you want to get a Christmas gift, there's still one more cottage available. And otherwise there's openings in the class and stay somewhere else nearby. We live in the Paiko area of Hilo and come through. So I have all those things. I always forget to pitch my own things. It's like I'm more interested in just you guys getting out there and learning and doing all this.

1:10:04 So anyway, I want to thank you for tuning in. Long live the natural farmer. Much love to you, your whole family, everybody involved. Aloha. I'll see you soon. Bye.