KNF Chicken Feeder, JADAM Pesticide Recipes, Cassava Polyculture

2:00 Hey, good morning, good day, welcome to Office Hour for Korean Natural Farming for May 26th, 2024. Who be texting me? It's Geico. Wild. So, yeah, welcome. Today, Korean Natural Farming Office Hour. Whole hour, you can ask me anything. Sharing the wisdom of Master Cho. Also, all Korean Natural Farming brought to you by the Pure K&F Foundation. This year, 2024, we've

2:50 been getting into Madadj, Jadam, all that. Um, just basically spent the last hour, um, sorting through photos, old photos, found a bunch of the things I was looking for to share with you folks. Um, so hopefully I can pull that up here and, uh, get that shared with you today. Um, and, um, yeah, sorted through a couple thousand photos this morning. Wow. Um, Um, so, um, anyway, let's, uh, before we get into the goodness of this, um, let's start with the greatness of some higher wisdom for us all and, uh, see what today brings, which is the

3:33 preponderance of the great. So there are great pressures at work by meeting them with modesty and patience, you avoid misfortune and meet with success. The image of this hexagram is that of a beam under great load. It sags in the middle and is in danger of giving way. You are in a similar situation now. The pressures of the moment are enormous, and there is a temptation to wiggle away and flee, or resort to plotting, conniving, or aggressive actions of the ego.

4:18 It is by resisting this temptation and holding firmly to proper principles that you survive and succeed. It is in fact a moment which you have been preparing yourself for for some time. a powerful energy has been accumulated imagine a flood pressing against the dam and it is up to you to direct its flow if you succumb to fear desire anger resort to incorrect behaviors the dam bursts and the pent-up energy causes destruction and misfortune

5:01 If, on the other hand, you cling to what is correct, modesty, balance, patience, independence, and gentleness, then you will obtain the aid of the higher power and the accumulated energy will be directed toward creating a profound success. What is called for now is quiet integrity with others, no matter how they may assault you. Remain modest and patient in your actions. Seek to penetrate gently and steadily, rather than forcibly and explosively.

5:48 Meet the difficulties of the day cheerfully and resolutely. By taking great care now and by remaining correct in every moment, by embodying the principles of the sage, you make possible the arrival of good fortune. yeah yeah we always want to be force force and explosive and go out and make it happen and force the thing to grow but you know master cho says the exact opposite right and uh coming here being patient even if we're feeling stressed or you know into it hard it's only by uh relaxing letting nature do the things, trying to create the right environment, free ourselves from that

6:39 inner slavery, and, uh, and, you know, be of service, be a sensible person, use our words, and don't be nervous. We can do this, we got purpose, find our medicine and use it. Don't you? Um, yeah. So, hey, hey, what's up? We got Christoph coming in from Belgium, land of chocolate and uh other things cecily what's up western australia in the house cheryl coming down from idaho wow what's that three members in the house already oh my gosh wow so uh if you're not already a member of the pure knf foundation pure knf.org um brought

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8:06 Join, join, join. You know where that's from. Okay, so what's up, non-GMO Joe? Good to have members in the house. Geico on Sunday of a holiday. It's a holiday? What holiday is it? May 26th? I don't know. I missed Mother's Day the other day. I'm not good with holidays or like celebrating things. I'm an introvert. We got eyewitness in the house. What's up, Thomas? Thanks, Jonathan. Deep, yes. So Thomas said he just made a chicken feeder, although he tried a two by two for the spinning bar because that's what he had, but might replace it with a proper one by one.

8:49 not sure if my one one or if his two by two spins really enough. So if you are curious what he's talking about, um, let's see. Um, I'm going to go here and then I'll go to my channel here. I made a really good video on a chicken feeder at one point in my life. Um, so let's just go here to, so this is the channel. You can get to it by clicking on the, you know, the thing below there, go subscribe like share comment um you know whatever don't do any of that if you don't want to but uh let's search for feeder because i know i made it oh so here it is this chicken feeder

9:29 so this is when i you know um i oh oh that's gonna be copyrighted oh i've already gotten a strike i barely even started so we're gonna mute this um i already got a strike for my own video um man youtube is hard but uh he's talking about these chicken feeders right here so the whole idea behind a korean natural farming chicken feeder is that they're this they're about three feet long and um it enables the birds to get in there and eat and they are v-shaped um so that the chicken can scratch underneath and then peck inside and not spread the food everywhere

10:11 So they're really, they keep the floor nice and orderly for them. And what Thomas is talking about is this bar on top. So this bar is put there to keep the chickens from going inside the food. They have to eat from either side. They can't go in there. Let me see if you guys can see my mouse. That may get a little bit easier to see. But this bar that goes across the top. And what I do is I pin it. I basically make the bar itself. I drill out an eighth to a quarter inch hole in the bar, and then I put a screw in either

10:46 side, either a screw or a nail into either side, and this bar then is able to spin freely. Keeps the chickens from going into their food here and crapping in their food. And then also the reason the bar spins is so they can't stand on there. It'll just spin and it'll knock them off. so we can go through this video just a little bit but I think Thomas just built one of these so you know I talk about it and there's there's the oh wait let's see we could just you could just watch it on your own there's me oh my gosh this is when I thought that making good videos was a

11:21 I'd improve my YouTube but it turns out I make good videos like this I don't get any more subscribers or any more likes or any comments let's see how many people watch this video to 2400 20 or 2400 that's pretty good for two years you know that's a thousand people a year watching this i guess that's pretty good but you know you know how much time it takes me to make all these uh just i don't know youtube just has never worked out for me so but i do these lives because i support you as a person but here's here's the idea so again yeah it's the v like that you can

11:54 see this little overhanging lip to keep the food from flying out in the spinning bar and then oh and then there's that little thing in the bottom and this is from master chose plans here there's a little thing at the bottom to keep the feed from getting stuck in the crevices down there and then there's the dimensions for you right there there's the plan um hey everybody hey everybody what's up stonemason so here's what i ended up doing And, you know, these are the tools I use. Look at that. It's not sponsored by Ryobi, but it should be Home Depot, the place to go. Look at all those things.

12:32 I actually ended up using a table saw on this too, which wasn't in there, I don't think. But, oh, yeah, additional stuff. So I built it out of these pieces of wood and some plywood, I guess, I had laying around. What else? Yeah, that was me building it, measuring it. man look at that oh this lychee tree back here right now is in fruit so delicious it's the tree is about twice the size now and it's fruiting oh man go eat lychee's tell you what yeah i ended up using a table saw which wasn't on my materials list did you really need a table saw no you

13:13 probably could have ripped it with something else but i was ripping these things just perfect and look at this dangerous table saw usage no no i'm safe oh yeah i even had a push bar how's that I didn't mention a table saw, but you could rip that easily with the skill saw if you had enough skills. That table saw, man, look at that action. What's up? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. So then going through building this thing, you know, look at that, oh, precision drilling, and drilling it into that two by two that's down there. So that gives me that little crevasse there, and these

13:51 they're just kind of hanging there and get them 90 and throw on the end pieces probably talking about it oh yeah look at that skill saw action look at that oh yeah perfect oh yeah perfect you want to have these sit down and rest so the thing doesn't tip it's pretty awesome there's my old one that one was the old it was like four or five feet long and it just ate away eventually the chicken food the IMO is just because I feed them inoculated feet it just eats it all away look at that oh precision work oh man whoa yeah there you go oh yeah look at that thing

14:36 five hours later um I've been digging around for stuff measuring these things out oh getting it precise in the center yeah see make a drill hole I guess I drilled that side and then I put the the screw onto that but you want these bars that bar to rotate it's important that it's small because the chicken you know you just want to keep the chickens out and make sure they don't stand out but look at that rotation yeah that's what I was talking about rotating bar so then I talk about why I make this this way and why it's good and all those things. So if you're interested, you can

15:18 watch that video, you know. But yeah, I'm glad Thomas made it. I'm glad, you know, these chicken feeders, these ideas from Master Cho, he was just such a master when it came to this guy right here, just a master when it came to animals, understanding their psychology and everything. So anyway, if you are interested and you wanted to learn about that, I did make a video, somewhat high quality production, but I don't often do that. So, um, so just made a chicken. Yeah. Okay. We just read that. What's up Northern Thai guy. Hey man. Yeah. Um, yeah, it's been a long time. Uh, if you're

15:54 not a subscriber, check out Northern Thai guy, neither Northern Thai garden guy. He's in the, he's in the, he's in the group chat today. Uh, he has a great channel talking all about natural farming and what he's doing up there. Did some jadams, those types of things. Oh, it's Memorial Day. Oh my God. Is Memorial Day? Is it? Man. Uh, calendar. Oh, I took, is it Memorial Day? Oh, Memorial Day. Well, I guess they're doing it on Monday. maybe interesting memorial day see i don't even pay attention i'm just like in my own

16:40 introverted little small world i don't pay attention to holidays or anything i'm just like like sun rises i do stuff sunsets i go to sleep oh man tuning into the seasons the moons all those things cool well thanks for informing me it's Memorial Day. I do appreciate all the folks that died for our freedom. And then there's, you know, being a true patriot, fighting for freedom. But then there's also the whole like, you know, genocidal things and the whole politics and you get into like what we're really doing on

17:16 this earth. And it's like, oh my gosh, is Memorial Day even something we should be celebrating? And it's like, I don't know. I don't know at this point. I just know that, you know, staying true, farming, sovereignty, personal, you know, um, freedom is great. That's all I can tell you. And, uh, freedom ain't free. So yeah. Anyway, I appreciate everybody that's out there doing good things is really what I want to say, you know, Oh my gosh. Anyway, so we got big West in the house. We got, um, Canada. Yeah. We we're, we're representing the entire world today, uh, here.

17:50 so it's good to see you uh so um okay so yeah and in building this chicken feeder you know he's saying he built it out of scrap wood you know you don't have to build it from brand new stuff scrap wood what this is basically what I had laying around I do a bunch of construction stuff here though I like building things so I had all this wood laying around from other projects so I basically just built it out of scraps. I may have actually bought those 1x8 common lumber. I don't know. Anyway, Marty's looking forward to making the next IMOs. Yep. I think so.

18:31 Yeah, man, Northern Thai garden guy. I appreciate it. Bigging each other up Um, and, uh, doing that, have I seen rogue gardening's plant hormone extract process? If you, uh, no, I don't think so. Um, so, uh, yeah, um, let's see here. Um, what else? Oh yeah. So I was, I was going to share, um, a little bit. Uh, I did get into the drive here. I have, I have, I was telling Suze, it's my wife. I was just like, it is what a challenge it is. Cause I have, um, I have 15 years of photos of natural farming and it's like, I'm sorting through

19:20 and I was sorting through this folder called needs sorting. But what I want to share with you is, um, into this, I was looking back and I was looking back at 2016 and, um, and I found what I was looking for, which is basically this folder here. And this is when we went to Maui. Not those. Okay, starting right here. So this was the first time Madaj Chidam came over to Maui. um and this was in 2016 after we had brought them to big island 2015 i think might have been

20:08 even 2016 but they went over to maui so this is the event here there we had this big pop-up tent uh and this farm actually has been doing some natural farming regenerative um pasture and stuff um and then sam small actually filmed these things and uh i do have like high definition nice video of this whole event that happened and then there's alika before we move into the educational part i want to bring up josh josh will share uh information of this host farm i want to say mahalo to uh okunui farm right here for their participation in hosting this event

20:54 yeah so uncle alika kind of doing introductions there and uh hokunui farm that's what it's called forgot forgot at that time but but we've been back there they kind of they're kind of property developers in disguise uh trying to do farming to make it so you want to live around there it's the new way to do it um um so um yeah what is that i don't know making something sticky oh i think we're cutting a bread fruit apart or jackfruit oh yeah his hands are all sticky on the jackfruit yeah it was a jackfruit

21:32 hanging out hanging out with the damn crew uh you can tell ray's had a little bit to drink here but uh you know hanging out with the crew after hours doing the right things and what a fun thing and then hanging out with uh uh sun young listening to some k-pop as we cruiser on my You guys can't see that. There's Sun Young listening to some K-pop. Here. Yeah, cruising around Maui. Behind the scenes. Sun Young's so funny. Cruising through Maui. The, you know, Monsanto fields of Maui as we're teaching them natural farming. Trying to bring this whole central plane back to life.

22:16 But cruising with Sona. I think we were going to Costco to get ingredients. Yeah, cruising at Costco. What a trip. Because I live in the bushes, basically. So when I go to Costco, it's like, oh my gosh. Oh, I'm going to get copyright struck for that, too. Oh my gosh. Yeah, Maui. We're finding a Korean store in Maui. So they could get special ingredients they needed. Yeah, the Oriental Mart. Anyway, back to the workshop, because we had to go on a supply run to get the things we needed for either dinner and or the next day for all the things we needed. It's not covered.

23:02 Single spaces exposed to pathogens, they are afraid that the Thomas will start to develop. So throughout the whole growth, they make sure that the whole plant is covered with fungicide. Fungicide. Otherwise, J-DOM is always about killing things. All of you are now part of the 400 people throughout all of Hawaii Day that the Imam King has shared their knowledge. Once again, applaud them for their Jesus-like attitude. You know, best child, young son, he comes through and he says, no, he carried the attitude just like Jesus. The knowledge we have, we share.

23:49 You can see the opportunity he has if you wear the hat of an economic entrepreneur. You can see that opportunity, but you also see the real opportunity that he has. I have a chance to be Jesus like you. So every one of you have been given this gift. So, yeah, cruising. And after the thing was over, there's this nice rainbow, which actually happens a lot at Hoku Nui. This is, you know, the beauty of Maui. But I think I got a picture of Ray under that. Yeah, he's at the gold at the end of the rainbow in there. Yeah, Ray, work it, buddy.

24:38 Classic Sun Young pose. What's up, Sun Young? Oh, so, okay, so these are the videos that I wanted to share with you because this is like after hours. This is like once we get into the evening, you'll notice the bottle of vodka there, the poo-poos eating cherries. But what I want you to see is under this glass right here, there is a bug right there, right? So as we're sitting around in the evening, there he's spraying his solutions on it, right? He's misting his solutions. So he's out. Young Song Cho won't stop, can't stop, always testing pesticide solutions on bugs.

25:27 Beetles are notoriously hard to kill, but there he is just spraying a few sprays on it. And look, it's still cruising. He's a piridator. He's a piridator. Oh. Yeah. Wow. Oh So he made a strong solution. It's still not killing this little Even in this pesticide solution, you know beetles are super hard to kill What is that? You can put it in there. Hold on, let's take a look. It's going to be a little bit.

26:13 What is that? It's going to be a little bit. So they're trying a different solution there. It's a little bit. Seeing what happens. Oh, really? It's strong. It's strong. Wow. Wow. Wow. I'm not going to go here. I'm going to call you. Come. now there it looks like it went to sleep now no it's still alive still cruising more tired and we'll just skip through that a little bit How is this feeling? Oh, his expression is so weird. Oh, it's going.

26:59 His expression. I think it's just sleeping though. Because later they're spraying it, seeing... Oh, I guess maybe it died? I don't know. Anyway, I think it's just sleeping, this bug. it's just sleeping this bug. So I think they think they were successful with that. I think it was Korean passed flower root to kill this beetle and then there's a close-up of the beetle there you know um then it's you know kicking over

27:45 i don't know i'm not sure if it died there's young song cho super proud he said he developed a new pesticide right there but it's really just the combo of the things the soap the herbs and probably sulfur and maybe a little rock powder um there's the beetle let's see beetle Nice. But then a termite came out. A termite came to us as we're sitting there. So they spray around. I have no idea. So there's the beetle chilling over here. Oh, you guys can see that. You can go down. Maybe you might get on the books. Oh, he's so fast.

28:31 He's so fast. He's so fast. Any other category, bugs would not be that. If you see this moving in a desperately fast motion, it means that it's about to die. It's gonna go down the crack, get it. Wow, that one went down fast. Oh, she's already dead. This is click beetle. It's slow. It's a term. Oh, it's a click beetle. This is click beetle. And the larva of this insect destroys potatoes. Oh, it's a click beetle.

29:18 This is a trick. This is a child's wild worm. The larva of this insect is wild worm. They are larva but they are very hard. They have a very hard skin. They are feeding into the potatoes. They feed on the potatoes and root crops. You knocked on us back. Don't touch me. Fair play, do you want to play? I'm going to play right now. I'm going to play. Okay, this is fair play. Very fair right? Six humans going down the crack! Oh, good girl! I just died right now.

30:03 It's like jazz? It's becoming more slower, cumbersome, you know? I just... Oh, that pineapple farm. I got a mute it so I don't get copyright strucken. Oh look, that thing is dying. biomes they normally on the grassroots because I made the field

30:48 by removing the grass they had no more food so they all came in to attack my potatoes they were they were pretty there were many numbers in my field and I did some research so anyway I can't listen to that even though Ray is saying some interesting things oh there's them celebrating after killing a bug classic jadam style here you know we killed a bug who developed a new pesticide hanging out you know but this is what it's like if you ever hang out with the jadam team you know there's me i think that's my water you'll notice i'm drinking water

31:26 yeah can't do alcohol um but yeah they just you know i guess that was a wire beetle or something they just killed ray was saying it eats potatoes and causes a bunch of problems um but you know this is there's the beetle over there the other first beetle and uh you know somebody asked why are the beetles so hard to uh why are the beetles so hard to uh kill it's because they have um you know hydrophobic coating on them uh and they're armor plating basically you know um let's see is there anything else oh yeah so this is the loop that um you know

32:10 this is a 10 times little loop so if you're doing bug research and you're trying to kill things i definitely recommend getting a 10 times loop uh it's one of the it's one of the things in the dom kit that I went over that um that they have but that way you can actually look closely at the bugs and see you know see what they're doing measure its effectiveness and also you know once they have the bugs there they're gonna you know seal them up to make sure they don't escape to make sure that pesticide worked on them um and then what else yeah there's young song choo

32:41 looking at the bugs, making sure they're dead. Um, and, but yeah, so anyway, that's, that, that was one of the videos I wanted to share and show with you folks. Cause, um, you know, that's like only when you're sitting there and doing, you know, actual research with Yang Sang, see how he really does it. Um, you know, for him, it starts with a bottle of sky vodka. well um but you know that's that's what uh after hours that's that's what uh that's what that's what they've been up to you know now here a little bit more pictures those are the bugs the two bugs

33:20 you know and i think by that time the end of the evening uh there's there's the pesticide that he had mixed up you know just some some pesticide it might even be a different bug that landed that night um yeah might have either it is kind of like a uh i don't know yeah so so all three all these bugs ended up coming over that evening i think this might have been the next morning and or that was that evening of all these bugs came over and they just tried the pesticide on them and these different bugs just uh you know cacked over once once they were exposed to these things

33:55 you had to try different concentrations to different things to spray on there but um that's you know so there's there's some action happening and if you were to do that to your plant just make sure you spray it on your plant and it doesn't hurt your plant on like one or two leaves before you douse the whole thing but that's basically what they're doing um you know just just finding a bug spraying it with some solution and doing it so um yeah so anyway that's that was one of the things i wanted to share with you i was looking for that and i'm like i know i

34:26 made a video of it because I remember videoing it. Um, and then, but I just couldn't find it until I went through the folder that said need sorting, which was in another folder that says need sorting and sorting through, you know, just giga, uh, I think there's, uh, yeah, uh, 12, 12 terabytes of data and terabytes. Yeah. 12 terabytes of data to find that for you. So, uh, hopefully you enjoyed. I was trying to find an AI program to like go through and categorize my video, but it turns out it's going to be way too expensive to do that.

35:02 So I just have to rely on my memory and where it's sorted and those things. So Northern Thai guy was saying that I think Preston got a process to just take plant material and put a weight on it and get the material, get the hormones out. and I think that is a not so good idea. I mean it'll work. You can smash things out with just a weight and let it kind of come out but with no other ingredients. But that's more along the Jadam lines and there's a reason to put the sugar and salt to get the osmotic pressure to get the

35:40 liquids to come out instead of just putting a weight and smashing it. I don't know how much pressure he's putting. I should probably watch his process before I comment on it. But my guess is that he's misunderstanding. Like, Master Cho really figured it out of making fermented plant juice and like adding the sugar and there's reasons for it. And then when people think they're going to innovate by just using weight and plant material and thinking, I'm helping. You may or may not be, just to let you know. So I don't know. I haven't checked in with Preston

36:09 for a long time. He, you know, we did see it on the other day, a thumbnail of his IMO process, which was like C to D grade and sharing. So I don't know. I haven't checked in with Preston. No, no, no offense against him. He's trying his best. He learned here in Hawaii. And then, you know, we also traveled up to Humboldt where he was with James one time taught a class there. So he's been studying KNF for a long time. It was part of the Humboldt natural farming group. But having access to Master Cho, spending time with him, really learning.

36:42 uh i don't think preston i don't know did he take my class i'm not sure if he did it was when it was super big and a whole bunch of folks um but um yeah teaching teaching things and having them do right and thinking you know i'm not sure the plant hormones i'm not saying it doesn't work right you can go do it and you can use it but thinking you're going to innovate on master cho maybe it's cheaper maybe it's easier i don't know anyway i'm commenting on a lot of that not reading the chat live but um anyway i'm not uh i'm not sold on it um so um and then um non-gmo joe looks like he

37:23 had something going on here uh once you have your liquid from your faa you can use that um yep yep yep okay um yeah fish hydrolysate ready to okay yeah yeah once once your fuel is liquefied you can you can look at the book here and i talk about it um where um let's see here pull this up if you're taught if you're curious about the fuel um can pull up the book and look at this here. The fuel recipe is right here. And I talk about it where when it's

38:08 ready. It says somewhere on here, the longer it ferments, the better it'll get. And it continues to improve for like three years but as soon as it's liquid you can use it um it's what master cho's original text says so anyway um making fish aminos sometimes it takes a long time connect we got connecticut in the house what's up um the beetles are so hard to kill because they're armored we think we've covered that um okay anyway folks trying to share things that's Great.

38:54 Okay. Okay. Yeah. When you use fuel, it really makes your plants go green. That's for sure. Fuel is an amazing thing. Just be careful not to overdo it. A lot of people over nitrogen their plant, cause overgrowth, causes other problems, makes them more susceptible to pests, all kinds of things. People love nitrogen because it's, it's so, it's like, it's like explosives. It really does a lot of work quickly, but you can overdo it. You know, you're fighting, you're playing with fuel and fire. And so when you add a lot of fuel to a fire, it can be extremely dangerous. So I'm just letting you

39:37 know, be careful with that. Cool. You guys doing all that? Okay. I use, okay. Yeah, cool. Cool. So the fuel, all that. Um, so let's see what else, um, if we can get into more Madag, I was going to share out, man, I got real inspired today. I was just, as I was going through these photos, you know, sometimes, uh, you know, it's, it's a, it's a thing. Sometimes I go through and I'm like, am I doing everything I can be doing for the world? And I'm, I'm like questioning it. And then other times I'm like, yeah, you know, I mean,

40:18 I just look back at what I've been doing, you know, back when I was working with these kids here, you know, Klonon-only school, working with the kids. Oh, is it? No, it's going to go over here. You know. It's video. It's video. You're showing the better finger. Yeah, but doing these things with the kids, making grown bananas. look at those bananas my gosh my gosh um yeah so anyway it's just it's it's always fun to go through these old uh old photos see you know look at that glennonaly school garden man this place this was fun this

41:10 was a fun project that i worked on for a couple years working with kids growing things like we We did a greenhouse, sugar cane. I was seeing pictures earlier. I worked with Abigail. Look at that soil. Look at that soil. We took this soil from being just dead yard into like being this fertile stuff with just, oh man, it was so fun. Although working in the school system is challenging, let me tell you. Public school system, watch out. but um finding the saprophytic fungi breaking down we put enough wood chips but the saprophytes

41:50 break this down bring it down but look at that soil that's just like a dig up of our soil you know in a year or two we were able to build what is that four or five inches of soil that you can get down into that's just amazing you know it's a combination of mulching plus the imos plus having the kids go out with all the solutions all the time um okay uh but yeah all these flowers just you know look at that like the microbes the wood chips and microbes and especially here in the tropics man is it good you know people tell me to be careful of the um of you know the back to eden

42:32 type of gardening. But one thing is, if you look at this, we did a lot less mowing. We would mow. We would do some mowing and stuff, but we just let the place get so full of life that once you do this, all the mycelium connects to itself and connects to each other. And like this mountain apple tree surrounded by these sweet potatoes. And then, you know, this basil with the flowers, with the papaya, just poly permaculture, you know, always putting bananas every so often so we could put our compost piles around the bananas, having the sugar cane tie in.

43:13 You know, even raised bed gardens, we'd put the IMOs, some nasturtiums popping off, pineapples in there. These pineapples are so delicious, white pineapples, bananas and just just letting the earth kind of work itself and then like you know here here's where there was a compost pile but then you can just take that and very easily clear it and then plant wood chip that and then keep planting and we just man i mean working down at the clonamaly school garden oh these coconuts now are huge which is kind of funny because they're

43:45 under these power lines. Lull. And yeah, just letting nature, working with nature, I guess, is what, you know, is beautiful. And then composting. Anytime we'd compost, we'd put it on these banana trees because they can tolerate being buried. I'm not saying this is going to work everywhere, but if you're in the tropics, this is how to do it. And look at these cassava roots. What is this? One root is weighing 13 pounds. Oh my girl. 13 pound root right there, pulling it out of the ground. You know, so yeah, almost 13 pounds for one root. And then here's

44:25 one that's seven pounds. Um, wow. We were, you know, we were just, we were doing what, and there's a whole bucket of it. That was 18 pounds of cassava coming in. You know, look at these roots. That's just starch for days. So yeah, look at these bananas, taros, polyculture, pigeon peas. Oh my gosh, cassavas. And so then when you, you know, when you get a polyculture like this going and then you dig under it, it's just like, look at those banana racks. And then you get so much cassava coming out of there. And to some people it would look

45:06 like this is just like oh it's a heap of weeds or whatever but no this is a polyculture in action and the wild grass fertilizer you know come in occasionally and knock the grass back so it doesn't smother the plants but man we were doing so good stuff down at the garden and we would just continue these down and do this and grow so much cassava taros the cassava and taro working together the bananas are huge you know oh we even had strawberries in growing more pigeon pea we'd grow them in these tubes so they're easy to transplant out and then put pigeon pea borders

45:45 pigeon pea and lemongrass borders around everything and then wow yeah the greenhouse I don't know why they were going to put pietrine in greenhouse go figure but the kids I let them do what they wanted to do that's what they wanted to do and our seed bench mostly pigeon peas at that point that's how much it rains around here this is probably one night sweet potatoes, papayas taros, tea leaves talk about polyculture heaven strawberries, peppers next to it look at those strawberries though my gosh anyway and then we'd mulch the garden path so that we could have places to walk through but

46:36 all these sweet potatoes holding it down the pineapples and just mulch mulch the pathways and continue to feed that mycelial mess no it did get kind of wild at one point but you know the kids it's hard to get them to want to be motivated to do stuff they mostly want to play so you have to incorporate play. And the chaya spinach. Whoa. You have to teach him, trick him into playing. Oh, on these lemongrass borders. So, so we also designed the garden so that wouldn't be a whole lot of work. So putting the lemongrass borders around the, um, like banana patches and keep our

47:14 grass pathways going. And then we had this ulu tree. This thing got huge and then they chopped it, the top off of it. Ah, my gosh. That's what happens when you leave a garden project. someone else doesn't know what they're doing. That's the classroom. What are we doing? Teaching the kids about the I Ching. Oh, transplanting a bunch of kales and probably some chard. I don't know. Bok choy maybe. These little kales coming up. Garden beds. And then the kids, man. What's more rewarding than going in the garden and having them create their own fresh sugar cane juice. They get to make that,

47:58 have fun, hang out, make sugar cane juice. I don't know what Anaheo's doing. Yeah. They'll film each other's butts. Yeah, but making sugar cane juice with the kids, you know. Food, they can take it home. Brother Mason teaching them about permaculture. Yeah, we weed whacked down this area. This used to be an old aquaponics thing. and oh my gosh looks so much cassava for days the kids harvesting it pulling it up cleaning it shredding it bringing it home to you know making sure it's clean bringing it home for their parents feeding their families so much cassava

48:54 right here i want to see put it put it on the scale i want to see that one yeah look at that 20 pounds cassava no 16 15 pounds of cassava food for days anyway yeah a little nostalgia going through through these photos and seeing you know these kids are now like 18 year olds or 20 year olds i don't know they're old now gotta watch out um yeah this was a fun project though working that year with abby that was good yeah so anyway you know natural farming success with kids this is like yeah look at this this

49:43 greenhouse went nuts this spinach so nuts in there um anyway okay we'll go away from that right now oh why did I go back to this screen though I wanted to go to this one yeah there we go go back to that one that one that one okay okay so anyway um what are the questions we got here. We love, love Sona, Sonam, Sona. Um, even the soil under my first composter when I didn't know what I was doing, just rotting stuff is amazing. Lose my balance when I step there because it's so spongy. Oh yeah. No, when you get microbes in the soil, they make it spongy. The air,

50:23 the water, everything meshes. Like you bring the earth to life, life. It's not supposed to be hard desertified ground it's supposed to be amazing um yeah so uh big west is using jack and the beanstalk to get his grandson into the garden he sprouted a seed at school what was the first lesson he wanted to give it to told him to grow the beanstalk and climb it yeah you know so getting kids into the food and farming and all that it's good stuff good stuff good stuff um so you know to finish out i wanted to you know we we gotta this year going through madadge

51:04 doing our madadge you know i basically you know these pesticides in the back we're doing these we're starting through it and basically all the recipes were pretty much the same they were just increasing the concentration of herbal solution and then uh putting them out there uh you know Soap, herbal solution, sulfur. So if you don't know, go to pure KNF, go to knfsupport.com. Watch the past episodes, get up to speed, because there's a bunch of stuff that we've covered already this year. We're already five months into it. Almost six months in. Oh my gosh, June is just around the corner.

51:42 But last week we covered slug and snails, and that was a slightly different one. They were killing it with soap and sodium hydroxide, which is caustic soda which is super gnarly so be careful exercise extreme caution using these things full respiratory eye skin protection everything the whole nine yards because these things are nuts caustic soda will burn you like nobody's business if it gets wet or moist on you and you don't want to breathe it in or get it in your eyes because it'll burn that and the only way to stop it is to pour an acid on it so be super careful um so

52:20 um uh yeah anyway is that really getting the whole thing here I guess so okay so um so I did we're now on recipe number 11 uh out of these and again it's a this is a JMS pesticide and I did talk with Stephen Cornett the other day. We interviewed him for our peer KNF membership meeting. And man, he was talking about Young Song. He's been tuning into their meetings. And he said that now he's been researching the microbial solution. So if you go to the book here

53:07 in the book that I've written here and down at the bottom, I call it disgustingly cheap microbes. It's disgustingly cheap microbes. This is what he calls, uh, MMS, Madag microbe solution or Jadam microbe solution. However you want to say it. Um, cause it's open source, right? Non-pop, non-copyrighted, non-patented. Here it is. Um, so, um, so he's been using this more as a pesticide, which is what I've been saying this entire series as I've been going through all these pesticides with Medaj is like, just improve your microbes and improve your plant nutrition and you won't

53:44 need pesticides. I've been saying it this entire time, right? Um, so, um, so what he's talking about is number 11 here is the, um, let me, let me make this go like that and do that so you can see um so what he's talking about is using the microbe solution as a pesticide so i'm going to read this one because this one's definitely different than the other ones i was reading about and this one says that he's using 20 20 liters of the disgustingly cheap microbes he's using five liters of jerusalem artichoke herbal solution he's using five liters of ginkgo

54:29 and he's using three liters of soap so microbe solution two herbs and a soap and he's mixing all that into 500 gallons or excuse me 500 liters 132 gallons of water okay and he says use this regularly for prevention before diseases or pests break out foliar application of the disgustingly cheap microbes increases microbial diversity and prevents the dominance of a particular pathogen. If disease breaks out, replace the disgustingly cheap microbes with sulfur. If pests occur, replace the disgustingly cheap microbes and ginkgo solution with the Korean

55:19 pasc flower root so a stronger herb you can dilute or you can use both the disgusting or the the herbs or just use one so you can use both herbs or just one increase the soap and herbs to strengthen the pesticidal effect okay so he's basically he's just every single recipe he's telling you how to modify it why doesn't you just stick to one recipe and stick with it he just continually says how to modify it which is basically if you have pest problems go to a stronger herb if you have fungal problems put in a little bit of sulfur if you're using microbes early and often and in this

56:03 case he's combining it with a couple herbs that are that are mild and just preventatively spraying this out with soap so it gets good penetration he's then able to keep majority of stuff at bay and this is this is one of the first number 11 in this book it's one of the first ones i really truly agree with which is just if you're putting herbs out or excuse me if you're putting microbes out on your plants you're probably not going to have the same disease pressure and the same problems because the microorganism the microbiome that diversity that is is intact that's what

56:41 master cho advocates that's what's the truth get the microbes out get them out early get them out often get them all over your plants get them all over the soil bring the earth to life bring your plants to life and then you won't have problems with death causing microbes the fact that he's putting in a bit of these herbal solutions i don't know um you know these are the herb solutions i think including plant juices cleansers these other things you're probably going to benefit even more just diluted pests you don't need the herbs on there i mean this is just my opinion

57:16 he says to do it you know adding a few herbs boiled down herbs in there why not you know it may work for you so this here first recipe i can truly honestly agree with besides the soaking the seeds with sulfur to kill um kill pathogens that are in the seeds so recipe number one the rice bachanine disease but this one number 11 where he's going into showing how to use the the microbes early and often yes this is great and so he says with number 11 it stops powdery mildew on strawberries leaf fungus on tomatoes powdery mildew on cucumbers moth larva cotton

57:59 aphids, moth larva, daikon leaf beetle, tobacco moth, and beet army worm. And so my guess is why it defeats these leaf eaters is because it makes your leaf so strong and so diverse with its microbes that those bugs will eat it and they'll just be sicked out and they won't want to eat your plant. So it's not that it contains these herbs and it's a pesticidal or that effect. It's just that you make it so strong that the bricks level changes and the microbes and the whole microbiome is functioning and then they don't the bugs don't have anything to genitize it's already

58:36 clean they can't clean it any further they don't feel like they have to remove diseased and in rotten uh pests and things so so i'm going to cover one more today um number 12 and um this one is the all-purpose pesticide so this one can so it says for both pests and diseases so i bet you can guess what this is i before i even read it it's probably going to be herbs sulfur and soap i guarantee it right because that's that's all these things are and just changing the concentrations and i know i'm going to read what that originally says and then he's going to

59:14 say you can make it stronger to cure more things and it's like yeah you just make a test and you do it until it works for you. So before I even get into it, you already know what probably is going to be. So let's get into it. It's going to be sulfur, 1.5 liters, soap, six liters, Jerusalem artichoke herbs, five liters, Korean pasc flower root herbs, 10 liters, all that into 500 liters of water, right? So yeah, that's exactly what I said. It's going to be sulfur, soap, and herbs. Yep, that's what it is. But you could also include microbes in that.

59:53 And you know, he's just going to, watch, now he's just going to modify it, okay? So he says, if pest infestation is serious, increase the amount of Korean pascou flower root herb to 15 liters. Of course, he knew what that was going to be. As for the sulfur, start from 0.5 liters and gradually increase for greenhouses from one liter for open fields. So you got to start with a little bit of sulfur, even though he's already recommended to put in 1.5 liters, you should start with a half liter in your, if you're in a greenhouse or one liter, if you're in a field,

1:00:26 of course, start with a minimum dilution and then work your way up. Why is this a different recipe? I don't know. Apply every seven days or so. I do not recommend supplying sulfur every seven days, unless you really want to shoot yourself in the foot. Anyway, grapes, persimmons, walnuts, and perilla are also sensitive to sulfur. Take caution. Yeah, everything's sensitive to sulfur. Shouldn't be using it every seven days. It is okay to use only Korean past flower root herbal solution. Okay, so you don't even need the Jerusalem artichoke. You can only just use the past flower.

1:01:06 Why make a recipe and then change it? if you increase the soap and the herbal solution, you get a stronger pesticide. That's what I've been saying this whole time. And he's saying it again. If you add a half kilo of very fine red clay powder, it increases the effectiveness. You can replace it with a very fine rock powder, but the type of rock may not mix well with the pesticide. Do a mixture test prior to make sure it's safe. So again, sulfur soap herbs is all his thing and just change start with the minimum and work your way up until you see it kills your pests

1:01:41 and or treats your plants and then it doesn't burn your plants and then go spray the larger area if you really want to go this way or just go with the herbal solutions excuse me the the microbe solutions and avoid this problem in the first place so he says this recipe number 12 prevents Stink bug, thrips, paracilla, stink bug of a different type, onion fly maggot, turnip moth eggs, aphid, cucumber moth, and a different type of stink bug. So, there you go. That's the Jadam for today. Getting through this.

1:02:20 hopefully we're going to finish because you're probably tired of me whinging about this where I just talk about how everything's the same and it's all the same and just all this stuff you're probably tired of this so we will move on uh off to them as soon as we're done with this we're on number 12 there's 13 there's 14 which we already covered it's the herbal smoker and then we're done okay so and then we can go over kind of the sulfur and the herbal solution and the soap and how those are made because I don't think we cover those in its entirety.

1:02:52 And those are, you know, maybe I should have started there before I got into the combinations of how to kill things, but whatever, we're a little out of order. So that's what I got for today. That is the medag for you. Getting deeper into it, almost done with it. I hope you enjoyed today's episode, checking out, seeing it in action, you know, knowing what it's like to be with Young Song, to, you know, uh, sit at the table and hear the Korean going and not understand what the hell is being said. And, um, hopefully all this was good. Uh,

1:03:26 I think it's funny. I see the comments here. Cheryl's laughing at the sky vodka. She's hung out with Young Song. She knows what's up. Um, you know, he has all about that sky vodka. Um, anyway. Um, so yeah, I want to thank you for tuning in even Northern Thai guy. We got the whole world watching. I'm excited. Go out, um, share with your friends, your neighbors, your garden, your microbes, all these things working on it. Um, appreciate you tuning in, like, share, subscribe, whatever, you know, post this to your favorite social medias and, or don't, you know,

1:04:03 you maybe just be the lucky few that, that tune in to understand that, uh, you know, life's worth living. So, um, yeah, appreciate you all. Uh, again, you know, brought to you by pure KNF foundation, pure KNF.org. If you're not already a member, why aren't you? Um, so, and appreciate all those members out there and everyone else for tuning in. I'm going to get out of here before I talk myself wild and it's not raining anymore. Yeah. You get to go move my cows, but not in the rain. Woo. Okay, cool. I'll see you next week. Thanks. Love you. Aloha. Bye.