Jadam Moth Spray, Whitefly Mix, Slug and Snail Recipe
Drake pushes back on parts of Jadam's Majab book: the claim that farmers must devote eight full hours a day to farming, the idea that selling on Amazon or Alibaba will make sales soar, and the chapter on training your wife to make pesticides. He argues good soil and plant fertility from Master Cho's core methods make most pesticide-making unnecessary.
Farmer Cheryl asks about cabbage moths. Drake finds recipe seven in the back of the book, for moths in general, including cabbage moth, diamondback moth, and fruit worm moth larvae. It uses eight liters of Jadam Wetting Agent (JWA, which is just soap) and fifteen liters of Jadam Herbal Solution (JHS) made from Jerusalem artichoke, mixed into five hundred liters of water (about 132 gallons). Pokeweed, ginkgo, or Korean pasc flower root can substitute for the Jerusalem artichoke.
Recipe nine, for stink bugs, thrips, greenhouse whitefly, turnip moth, flea beetle, fruit fly, and mosquito, uses ten liters of soap plus fifteen liters of Korean pasc flower root solution in five hundred liters of water, scaled up to fifteen and twenty liters for serious infestations. Recipe ten, for slug and snail, uses three liters of soap and 1.5 kilos of caustic soda (sodium hydroxide), which must be dissolved carefully and kept off skin. Adding one to two liters of sulfur boosts germicidal effect, and a half kilo of fine red clay powder helps the spray stick.
On harvest safety, Drake says the soap breaks down in about three days, and the herbal ingredients take roughly a week to two weeks, so waiting two weeks after spraying is the safer bet.
Questions answered
- 9:17 When is the next Pure KNF Foundation meeting? — The foundation's first monthly membership meeting is coming up March 12, 2024.
- 34:01 Do KNF pesticides work on cabbage moths, and what do I apply? — Use Jadam recipe seven: 8 liters JWA soap plus 15 liters Jerusalem artichoke JHS in 500 liters of water.
- 38:57 Where is the cabbage moth recipe in the Jadam book? — It's recipe number seven in the back of the book, listed under moth, which also covers diamondback and fruit worm moth larvae.
- 42:04 What about tiny white flies on tomatoes? — That's greenhouse whitefly, handled by the stink bug and whitefly recipe covered later in the stream.
- 46:13 What is Jadam Wetting Agent (JWA)? — It's just soap, like Dr. Bronner's, used at 8 liters per 500 liters of water in the moth recipe.
- 48:23 What is the herbal ingredient in the moth recipe? — Jadam Herbal Solution (JHS) made from boiled Jerusalem artichoke, used at 15 liters per 500 liters of water.
- 54:21 Can I substitute the Jerusalem artichoke? — Yes, pokeweed, ginkgo, or Korean pasc flower root can replace it in the herbal solution.
- 58:37 How long do I wait after spraying before harvest? — The soap breaks down in about three days, but the herbs take a week or two, so wait two weeks to be safe.
- 1:00:11 How do I clear pesticide residue and surfactants from the soil? — Good IMO and a liquid IMO tea will break most of it down, but not spraying it in the first place is best.
- 1:01:43 What kills stink bugs, thrips, whitefly, and mosquitoes? — Recipe nine: 10 liters soap plus 15 liters Korean pasc flower root solution in 500 liters of water.
- 1:06:02 What is the recipe for slugs and snails? — Recipe ten: 3 liters soap plus 1.5 kilos caustic soda in 500 liters of water, handled with full PPE.
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In this episode
- 0:00 Cold open
- 3:30 Welcome, March 3 office hours
- 4:17 I Ching reading: Chen, thunder over thunder
- 7:41 Hydroelectric pipe work in the jungle
- 9:17 Pure KNF Foundation March 12 meeting
- 12:25 Miconia invasive plant history
- 18:48 Fact-checking Jadam's book on his father
- 19:33 "Devote eight hours a day" critique
- 22:34 Selling on Amazon and Alibaba, skepticism
- 24:52 The wife's role in farming, book excerpt
- 34:01 Cabbage moth question from Farmer Cheryl
- 38:57 Finding the moth recipe in the book
- 46:13 Jadam Wetting Agent (soap) explained
- 48:23 Jerusalem artichoke herbal solution
- 54:21 Substitute herbs: pasc flower root, pokeweed
- 58:37 Pre-harvest wait time after spraying
- 1:00:11 Breaking down residue with IMO
- 1:01:43 Stink bug and whitefly recipe
- 1:06:02 Slug and snail recipe with caustic soda
- 1:11:15 Sign-off
Transcript
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3:30 Hello, hello, hello. Or not, maybe. Welcome to Office Hours for March 3rd, 2024. It's March already. Well, February went by fast, even though there was an additional day. But, you know, year just keeps going. You're the dragon. Welcome. Happy New Year, everybody. What's up, Mark? Good to see you, brethren. So Office Hours is brought to you by PeerKNF Foundation. One hour where you can ask any questions about Korean natural farming.
4:17 And or if there's no questions, I will just go on and tell you more in detail depth about natural farming, Korean natural farming specifically, and other topics. So before we get into what we're doing today, get a little bit of higher wisdom here and see what's going on. So today is the arousing or shock. It's thunder over thunder. And it says, the shock of unsettling events brings fear and trembling. Move toward a higher truth and all will be well. The tendency of human beings is to rely on strategies of the ego, desiring, plotting, and striving.
5:11 When we exercise the ego, our spiritual development stops. And the universe must use shocking events to move us back onto the path. The appearance of this hexagram Chen indicates the immediate need for self-examination, self-correction, and re-devotion to following the path of the sage. In Chinese, the hexagram translates to mean thunder over thunder. A continuing series of shocks occurs until the obstruction in our attitude is removed.
5:49 It is important not to react against these shocks, but instead quiet and open your mind and accept what is happening has come to teach you a specific and necessary lesson. Look inside to see where you are resisting the will of the higher power. The sooner you return to innocence and acceptance, the sooner the shocks will subside. Those who maintain a reverence for proper principles and inner commitment to higher things are unperturbed by shocking events. They simply concentrate on deepening their understanding.
6:32 If you find yourself feeling threatened by the circumstances, withdraw into stillness and meditation. The only remedy for doubt and fear is a reconnection with higher truth. Shock and as important and beneficial teacher to those who follow the path of the sage. Make good use of the new beginnings and good fortune results. So yeah, shocking beginning, starting over. but yet the continuity of the Majaj. So this year, 2024, started it off going through the Orange Book,
7:22 going through Young Sang Cho, his things, part of the Korean natural farming repertoire, got into the history, showing where it came from. You can check out past episodes, pureknf.org, Go down to the KNF support. Check out the office hours there. All the past episodes. And what's up, family? We got a stonemason in the house, Indiana. Got Cecily coming in. Oh, if I scoot around, it knocks my camera out, apparently. But I did fix that buzzing noise. I figured out what the buzzing noise was. It was this little radio antenna that was hooked into the same USB port
8:04 that was causing the buzzing on my end. Um, you know, when you put too many EMFs right around you, especially in the, you know, 915 megahertz band, microwaving myself just ever so subtly. Um, we got, uh, Mark. What's up, Mark? How you, man? Could have used, could have used your help this week, man, putting in some hydroelectric pipes. We've been slamming down at the jungle, probably walked up and down the valley 40 times this past week, 200 feet down, sliding. It's been raining like heck, slip and sliding, rappelling down cliffs, lowering down pieces of pipe that weigh hundreds of pounds.
8:51 but luckily I was trained really well thanks to the United States military and able to belay things and run ropes and do all these things and got a great Alaskan help in me a true mountain man and we're doing well but yeah, good to see you too, Cecily hopefully we can make it all to the monthly meeting which is coming up, I think March 12th Pure KNF Foundation having their first monthly membership meeting. And so, got that going on. Let's see, I got a few pictures here. Let's see what I got here. Working down at the Hydro. Well, obligatory dog photo.
9:39 Is it catching glare? Obligatory dog photo one. And dog photo two. Can you see the dog? It's catching a glare right on there. It's not even blurred out. Can you see my dog? I don't know. There's a dog there. Let's see what else we got. Yeah, here's a picture of me. Well, it's not me. It's just ropes on the ground. You can't even see these things. I don't know why. First off, I should turn the camera sideways. And then try it. But see all that rope coil? that's 250 feet of rope coiled going down a mountain. I don't know if you see the other line
10:25 right there. That one's, you know, hooked to the tractor, and then eventually I get down there and manually delay this thing. But, and here's a beautiful valley, picture of the valley, with the rope in there for context, you know, but we're working down in that valley, down in that, you know, putting all kinds of good stuff in there and doing it. Here's a, yeah, here's sort of a video. Is it a video? I don't know. Now my camera just, yeah, there's a video walking along the jungle, putting that big ass pipe in there so we can run the office hours carbon-free, right?
11:10 Except for all the carbon that was used to build these pipes. Get them here, do all this, right? But this is what, you know, I've been doing all week. Walking through this jungle, putting this pipe down there. Look at that. It's beautiful down there. Some really rich soil in certain areas. Really nice. but treacherous. You know, unfortunately, it's catching glare right where you need to see it. But, you know, it's office hours. This is live. I didn't pre-plan to show you this, but look at all those nice plants down there, the jungle. It's interesting.
11:48 I've been, you know, there's, so I've been here for, you know, over a decade. We moved to almost 20 years now. 20 years. 20 years now. at least 20 years. And I've watched the jungle go through several iterations of natural plants coming in. And then, you know, at first there was a bunch of rose apple and then the university released a disease. I think, I believe the university released a disease and it killed off all the rose apple. And then the Myconia took over, which if you're unfamiliar with Myconia, Let me see if I can pull it up over here. Myconia.
12:31 Yeah, so here, let me get this thing, that one here. Let me get that like that. So this Myconia plant took over, and it has these super dark leaves. Let's see. There's a better picture. And it puts out hundreds and thousands of seeds. And it took over. There's it. That looks like a really unhealthy one. apparently there's a bunch of different varieties let's see but here is you know the hawaii invasive species talking about this myconia but these these leaves and they're purple on the bottom i think that's purple at least and they let next to no life or no light through this purple bottom and
13:14 it says it grows quickly and close together shading out nearly all other forest plants with their large oval leaves. It also has a shallow root system and can cause an increased erosion and landslides. And that's exactly, let me make it bigger here so you can see. But that's exactly what happened to us here was that it increased the amount of landslides and the whole valley shifted where it was growing. Um, and you know, it matures quickly producing fruit, although I don't, I've never seen fruit on it. Definitely seeds, uh, several times a year,
13:56 plant produces 10 to 20 million seeds a year. Um, and so, you know, these things about the grain size of a grain of sand. And so it just spreads like wild and it took over the entire valley. um and so where does it say the big island large infestations on the windward side that's where i'm at the smaller population on the leeward side um and people try to control it but you know really you need to replant it with something better and take care of it and really maintain the jungle but anyway so um but interesting thing that's happened is the myconia then its first generation grew up
14:37 shaded out the entire forest, caused huge massive landslides, and were big trees. But then they died off, or they're starting to die off. And now the second generation of Myconia is coming up. But it's not as strong and as vigorous. So whatever nutrient or whatever, you know, it's like a monoculture disease. There's not enough IMOs down there because it kind of monocultured itself, shifted the soil biology, and now the second crop of Myconia coming up isn't as strong. And the ferns are starting to come back. And some of the
15:09 undergrowth, like Castor's Curse, is coming back under there, which definitely is non-native. Let me look up. What is it? It's not Chlamydia. Let me just look up Castor's Curse. um no plant I don't think I'm saying it right oh here it is it's uh yeah I hear a transition it's this guy I'm not sure it's a guy but caster bean no it's this one here this uh clademia Yeah, this one is coming back underneath.
16:02 So these are coming back. They're easier. They hold the soil a bit better, grip in there a little better. But there's a nice picture of it coming back in the undergrowth. And then also there's some wild gingers that are coming back that are non-edible, I don't think. um and so um yeah so anyway it's been wild going in the in the jungle doing all that but a certain place this one place right by the waterfall um just really rich soil i was treading up it yesterday wasn't nearly as um as um as muddy in that area where the soil was better
16:41 um so it was it was cool it's cool to get in there and do that um but what else is going on yeah that oh and it's tiring i'm tired right now but it's cool um so anyway uh let's see oh yeah um did i talk talk about the monthly meeting yeah anyway um monthly meeting coming up for pure knf foundation uh march 12th i reckon doing that um getting ready for that getting those things i gotta get the tech set up for that make sure everyone gets knows how to get there that are members um so more than just this youtube we're actually doing you know membership through
17:26 you can join be an associate member go to pure knf.org i gotta put a few of those things work on that. We got a technology committee now, so get that all formalized on how to work on the website, make it so it's not just, uh, you know, making random edits and changes. We're actually doing things as a whole foundation and making it better for you, me and everybody out there. But, um, with that, you know, no questions. It's good. We got some nice, good regulars in the house. It's good to see you guys all um and really appreciate you tuning in it's amazing i watch my youtube
18:04 subscription thing go down and down and down you know but this has been really consistent and um good so hopefully i'm not sure what shocking event i need to get it uh going again maybe i need to make some youtube videos i need to like put some pizzazz out there i don't know i just i just figure, people tune into what they like. It's hard to compete into. I don't want to be a slave to it, like pushing it. I want to just do what's right. So anyway, trying to do what's right every day. But let's continue with my dad, Jadam. Last week, we went over the website, right?
18:48 And I just want to clarify, you know, again, I said it like I'm not hating or anything. I was just kind of fact checking, going through, trying to tame the ego a bit, trying to find, you know, sort truth from fiction. Because Abe Lincoln once said, never trust anything you read on the internet. And, you know, so going through some of his claims was interesting that he has no reference to his dad at all. Um, but, um, and even in this whole book, I don't think, is there a message or mention of his father at all? I don't know. I don't think so. Has anyone read this book?
19:33 does anyone know it better than I do I don't know if there's any mansion of Master Cho in here is there? does anyone know? how's this one? devote and commit 8 full hours per day to farming so you definitely have to be a full time farmer here Traditional farmers went out to work when it was still dark before sunrise. They worked in the fields eating small breakfast and big lunch. They came home only after sunset and it became dark again. Farmers nowadays are also busy, but not with farming.
20:18 They are busy attending meetings, tours, seminars, workshops, trainings, gatherings, parties, and other unnecessary events. The remaining time they spend on their cell phones. If you are a farmer, devote yourself to farming at least eight hours per day. Yeah, quit your day job. Yeah, right. From sunrise to 4 p.m. You only have to work from sunrise to 4 p.m. After 4 p.m., you can then work your regular job that makes your real money. Work at least eight hours a day focusing on farming. Work hard and think innovatively.
21:01 seek improvements, and develop new methods. Always experiment, study, and learn. If you're not devoted, your family may not respect you. I'm pretty sure my family respects me. Your customers will not be impressed with the products you grow. Man, he's saying like hobby people, people aren't going to be... All right, anyway, devote and commit. That is the only way to produce the best quality and high yield. I beg to differ. I think a whole bunch of like hobby people produce great things. And in fact, I, one of my main promulgations, one of my main things is I don't think everybody should be a
21:43 farmer and a full-time farmer, but everyone should farm a little bit. And if everyone farmed a little bit, our whole world would be much better. I really don't advocate for people doing full-time farming. I mean, I do, you know, if you really love it and that's your passion, then do it. But I think everybody just does a little bit. We're going to be way better off than a few people doing a whole lot of it. Anyway, so I strongly disagree with this. Times have changed. A company can market its product to markets of the world. It is now same for individual farmers.
22:20 Global internet shopping malls like Amazon and Alibaba are coming into Korea. once you start selling through those malls your sales will soar i i find it hard to believe that i could sell my bananas on amazon and that my sales would soar i think what would happen is it would rot in the mail um or cost me a fortune in shipping maybe i could do dry bananas and i will once i get this hydro in get more power but i don't think my sales are gonna soar especially if I market on Alibaba or Amazon it's like Amazon bananas it's like who the heck
23:01 I don't know maybe in some big city somewhere and maybe in Korea because it's more like cities and quicker to get things but me shipping my bananas from Hawaii to you I don't think my sales are gonna soar maybe China will become the largest organic market in the world So one of the most toxic places on earth is going to become the organic market of the world with probably the lowest standards. Maybe. Okay. Korea can access this market with the greatest ease and speed. Yeah, because they're right across the Yellow Sea.
23:39 To change risk into opportunity, what the farmer needs to do is to secure certification of quality and low price. for me, it's been word of mouth, you know, um, sure you can get a certification and, uh, you know, know what you're doing, but, um, usually it's like that guy has the stuff, get it from him. For well-prepared farmers, the future will open up immense opportunity. So anyway, just a little sample of this here. Um, devote and commit eight hours to farming a day. what do you think? Do you think you're going to be better off if you commit eight hours a day to
24:21 farming and that your sales are going to soar from Amazon and Alibaba? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe, uh, you know, maybe you do. Don't think so. I think locally produced closer things and not giving, uh, Jeff Bezos clause, a cut of your sales or Jack Ma, a cut of your sales is probably going to be better. Not that I advocate going to a farmer's market, but maybe you could make your own direct consumer sales and not going through their marketplace and having them take a cut of your valuable production. I don't know. What do you think?
25:01 I'll read this other thing because I agree with this heading here. Your wife plays a central role. I'll agree with that for sure. I don't think I could do anything of what I'm doing without my wife. Um, I mean, I could do parts of it. I've done parts of it. I've done things, but I couldn't expand to the level we are. And I wouldn't have the support. Oh, and thanks though, Mesa for that super chat. You awesome. I know. Thank you. The support, the support, supporting the channel, supporting the work. It's great. So I definitely couldn't do it without these, uh, my subscribers,
25:33 without my dedicated fans out here, without, you know, the dedicated natural farmers around the world because I'm trying to teach natural farming. So if you don't learn and then teach and go and spread, that's my whole mission. So also couldn't do it without you, but let's read this little bit about the wife here. If you are a husband, which I guess this is like, you know, we won't get into the gender argument here, but the changes that occur, if you are the husband, the changes that are occurring is not simple. It cannot be handled by yourself alone. I'll agree with that because
26:05 man, it takes more than one person. I mean, I guess, you know, it's not like you need a wife. It could be a partner, right? It doesn't matter, uh, sex or gender on this. You need someone else that's as dedicated and that you have that level of commitment of a husband wife. It doesn't necessarily have to be that way though. Um, you know, you could have a great bro on your farm that it's like, you know, you just bro down and it works well. Um, you need the participation and support from your wife. Yeah. Okay. Partner. Your wife will actually be playing a central role
26:44 in your farming. Of course, of course, any person you're going to be committed to, especially you're farming eight hours a day. Cause they're thinking that how you're going to wash your laundry, how you're going to clean the dishes, how you're going to keep the house. Hello. And if you're both out there working eight hours a day. It's like, you know, um, without her, you would probably have to hire a worker for 40,000 per year to do all the things she is doing. If you think your wife is only worth $40,000, you must be tripping, bro. It's like 120,000. I guess maybe this was
27:17 written. I don't know before inflation was so bad. I mean, it's always been bad, right? The federal reserve, you learn about the federal reserve. They've been stealing our money by devaluing currency since forever. That's their main goal. Um, yeah, way more than that per year to do all the things she's doing without your wife or life mate. There, you know, life mate, it is impossible to break into the post 2020 era, which is funny. He's saying this, uh, without a life mate because divorce rates are up huge. So what that, you know, but maybe people aren't
27:55 farming. Maybe they're not both on the farm. And, you know, you want to have a stable marriage, you want to have a stable life mate, maybe you should start farming. Divide and give out your wife's household chores to your children. So, enslave your children, yes. And maybe not enslave, but, you know, give them duties, responsibilities, make them earn their food. Wait, is that slavery? you. I don't know. Um, if that is not enough, you yourself should actively help her with her chores. Yeah. Cause otherwise you're going to get a divorce. Um, your wife is your best partner.
28:36 No doubt. Um, you know, whatever. Train her to be an expert in farming who can manage the farm without your help. Yeah. Cause if you break your leg or you die, uh, your wife's going to be screwed, right? Um, happen to have, you know, I'm teaching my wife how to drive the tractor, how to tie knots, how to, you know, do everything. She's super capable this whole week. I've been just slamming down in the river, working eight hours a day, at least more than that, like 12, 14 hours a day down there. And she's been able to feed the animals, uh, take care of most things.
29:12 I did have to refill the cow's water the other day because it was empty, but, you know, but we're working together. We're really, it's a solid team. I wholly, wholly agree with this, that life mate, life partner is essential for a successful farm because you will break down one way or another being, you know, in sickness and in health. And you both need to be redundant pieces of equipment that know how to do it, but then do what you do to make it happen. and so pesticides are probably the most expensive part of your farming
29:49 not for me i tell you what i don't i spend zero on pesticides and so um it's really not that expensive so he must be tripping here make your wife into a damn pesticide expert who can make natural cheap and effective pesticides by herself it's like okay so train your wife how to inhale freaking sulfur fumes and stuff. No, no, no, no. Like I'm not going to let my wife make the sulfur, man. That's like, um, that's like a, there's, there's gender roles for a reason. That's as a man's job, I will do that for her and keep her nice and pretty and fair.
30:29 And I will breathe in the gross fumes and do that. And you know, sodium hydroxide, I mean, she can make soap sodium hydroxide awesome but i'm this is wild man and then in and this paragraph ends by saying she will be a treasure to your farm and that's definitely true man the wife is the best treasure um you know so don't be put making your treasure make the sulfur come on jung song and also yeah anyway yeah kids so cecily saying here you know um kids certifications seem to be an exclusionary mechanism for sure you know maybe you want to
31:13 get into that exclusive method um exclusionary market and um yeah pressure the other people out who don't have time and energy to get in there it can also certain certifications can be a level like a set of standards and levels that are certain you know methods knowing they're happening but it's best to know your farmer. It's best to go visit your farms that you're getting your food from. Either that or just realize you're eating toxins. If you're not doing that, if you haven't been to the farm you're eating food from, you're probably eating toxins. You just got to accept
31:48 that in today's world because, you know, there it is in plastic. It's getting heated by the sun. My scrotum is moving towards my anus. You know, it's just so it is, right? This is just, you know, modern 2024 life of plastic poisoning and everything. So, um, you know, you're never going to escape these toxins. Um, we're just breeding it. Um, but you can at least try better in your own farming and growing your personal food this ways. Um, but certain certifications can be good, can be bad. Um, you know, the exclusionary principle I agree with,
32:26 Sometimes it's good to exclude certain things, you know, um, but otherwise it's not. And kids nowadays seem to be having a free ride in some families. It's absolutely for sure. I, my neighbor's right up the way. Um, you know, I wish I would see those kids. They have, you know, 25 acres of land and, um, I, I barely see the kids leave the house. They're addicted to the screens, the TVs, all those things. you know, but what you, what you're going to do, there's fire ants out here, there's semi slugs, there's, you know, there's always been danger in the world. I think they need to go out
33:03 and do all that, those things. The produce I work with only comes from farmers. I know wish more people would appreciate quality over price. And I think, I think you will find people that do appreciate quality over price. It's just getting it to the right people. And, um, you'll always find someone that'll value quality over price, someone that's willing to pay for good stuff. It's just a matter of time marketing, you know, getting it out in front of them to be like, Hey, but there are always people out there because money is just a flow. Um, you know,
33:41 and unfortunately it's issued from a central bank that, that is like, that's a vacuum. It's a, it's a vortex sucking on that flow. Um, but you know, it's just a flow so you can find, you know, and if you're putting out good stuff, there's, you're always going to earn more money because it is a flow, even though there's that sucking vortex or anyway, you can tell I don't necessarily like the central banks and all that whole idea of, um, them vampires. Um, so farmer Cheryl is asking, do KNF pesticides work on cabbage moths? What should I apply and how? I am using a site
34:18 that has lots of them. So wondering what approach to take. I taught lots of people before I got certified February 22nd. I'm just way better at it. Yeah. So we'll get to the cabbage moth question here in a moment. That's a good segue to get into what I was going to talk about today anyway. and we'll finish up with Mark's comment there of, so Mark did come to Canna Farm here and learn, and it's just, I take my, my, what is it? It's been doing this since 2007. Was it like 15, 16, 20, I don't know, more than four and 15 years of doing this. And I condense it down to a week
34:59 and give it to you. And if you can slurp it up as fast as you can from the fire hose, you will learn so much and level up so quick because there's nothing like learning with someone that knows what they're doing versus just learning through the internet. So I don't have any classes listed. People keep asking me. I've been like, I guess I want to list classes. I guess I want to do this again. I mean, it's what I do, but I'm always like, man, I don't know if I really want to do this, but I guess I do. I'll put classes up again soon. I was thinking of doing one in
35:30 July. I should really list that if I'm going to do it in July, because otherwise I'm not going to have anybody sign up and then I'm going to, that's nothing worse than teaching a class with hardly anyone there except for it's super fun. And that person gets a huge value, but then I'm like, it's a ton of effort for me, ton of effort to go and give these great classes out. So anyway, I'm not complaining. I'm just, uh, restrained restraining myself. I should probably do that. Anyway, I will list them because people keep asking and then I'm just like, oh man, I'm so,
36:00 I have so many other things I want to do in my life, but this is one of them. And the thing is, when I teach you and you go out and you learn and you do it better, that brings joy to my heart and serves Master Cho, even though he's blurry, but he's right there, you know, should really make him non-blurry. Um, so anyway, just trying to find the way. Yeah. We are all just trying to find the way. The way is through the lactobacillus. I'm just, I'm just stuck in the curds, man. why aren't we all on the way? because we're stuck in the curds alright enough rambling enough rambling enough going
36:38 let's get into some meat and crackers or just meat just meat let's be carnivorous today okay so there is asking about a cabbage moth so in the back of the Madag book because he talks about spending so much on pesticides which I believe is false If you do Korean natural farming for Master Cho and you get great soil and you have great plant fertility, most of this is irrelevant and you won't even need to do this. Why does he talk to you spend so much on pesticides? Because he doesn't understand his father's methods. And he has these other cheap ways of going about it and they're just not as good.
37:15 So he spends most of his cost on pesticides, most of his time making pesticides. Why? Because he doesn't understand the full fertility of his father's methods of getting these things there. So JS is as cheap as is JWA. Yeah, both these things are cheap, but you will nuke your biology by using them. So anyway, let's dive in. Let's get to some cabbage moth stuff. I'm going to go to flip to the back of the book here, because if you don't understand Master Cho and his methods, then you will have to use these. So let's go back to the
37:54 back of the book and let's look up a cabbage moth one because I'm sure he put it in here. He starts with rice bacchané disease, goes through water rice weevil, pest control solution for rice, powdery mildew, downy mildew, fungal diseases. We'll get into some of these. Yeah. Um, yeah. Canker, black spot, paraspon, botch, aphid, and mite. Let's keep going. Moth. Here we go. Moth. I think this is what you're talking about. Cabbage moth. Gotta be one of these. He's saying moth. Tobacco moth, beet army, worm, scale, slug moth, diamondback moth,
38:37 oriental fruit moth etc it gotta be moth right this is the moth solution here moth so if you have the same edition of the book that i have i have an old one i'm not sure it's page 316 if you want to follow along let's just go and before i get back to this i will come back and read this recipe out let's just go through the rest of this the pest he says here number eight is citrus flat flatted, plant hopper, leaf hopper, mulberry sucker, spot cloth, waxing, cicada. And he has a recipe for stink bug, thrift, greenhouse, white fly, turnip moth. Oh,
39:18 there's a turnip moth. This might, we'll read this one too then because it has a moth reference. Flea beetle, pear sucker, fruit fly, onion fly, mosquito, grasshopper, et cetera. and then there's slug and snail number 10 here so slug and snail because uh goofman was talking about that we'll get to that one too then there is jms pesticide um the microbial solution for prevention of pests and disease and then there's an all-purpose pesticide for both pests and diseases which again if you're doing good soil and good soil foundation good plant nutrition This should be extraneous to you.
40:00 But then there is fruit trees, winter pest control. Then there is soil foundation, which says it's effective against soil nematodes. Verticillium wilt, viral virus diseases. And that's it. Oh, and there's an herbal smoker. What's up, herbal smoker? um i don't think it's the herbal smoker we're thinking of but i'll show well maybe we'll get into this um yeah man we killed the disease by just smoking the herb um yeah yeah i and i um okay well those are those are the recipes he gives us here in the back
40:46 um not so much year three killing pests man you know yeah uh you know in in killing pests if you're doing like heavy commercial stuff and you need perfect produce jaw down oh yeah that's a great one christoph jaw down um burn down babylon so we're gonna burn down cabbage moths i you guys can you see this here i'm gonna put it closer so that's this is what i'm gonna read I'm gonna go over this. I'm gonna bust out an herbal kit, man. I got an herbal kit behind me. And, um, I do have that. I like that. Yeah. I don't think that's the same kind of herbal
41:30 smoker they're talking about, though. Just because you smoke herb doesn't mean the pests are gonna die. all right well let's go let's go over this one here um let's go over this hey thanks bird what's up thank you thank you thank you oh second super chat of the day oh yeah you're making the um making the movement move and the office hours stay live thank you thank you appreciate it appreciate it it's a look at that you're amazing look at that little peanut looking thing dancing. Oh yeah. Um, yeah. Cool. All right. So yeah, yeah. Thank you.
42:13 Thank you. Thank you to everyone who supports the show and all these things. What about tiny white flies on the tomatoes? We'll get to that one. Those are called, um, those are called white fly. Um, is it? Yeah. Greenhouse white fly number nine. So we'll get to that. We'll go through a few of these recipes today. We're going to go through seven, recipe seven here. We'll go through recipe nine and 10 at least. So I can't do them all at once because then why would you tune in next week? Well, I mean, because it's a, you know, yeah, you know, you know how you tune in.
42:53 It's more than this. So we're going to go through recipe number seven here in the, this edition of the book. This was the first edition of this orange majab book here. So this one, number seven is for moth. And then in parentheses, it just says moth in general. And in parentheses, it says tobacco moth, beet army worm, scale, slug moth, diamondback moth, oriental fruit moth, et cetera, which I was unaware that scale was a moth, but maybe it's not. Then down in the pictures down below, just so you know, down in the pictures here,
43:37 these pictures here. I don't know if you can see it. Can you see it? Yeah. So, and then I'm going to read the captions of these pictures, right? Because anytime you read a scientific book, you should read the figures first and then go back and read the chapter, right? You all went to, what is that? It's the ninth grade science class, whatever, eighth grade science class. so it says uh under the pictures here the first one is right here citrus mealy bug it treats which is plant planocus citri arrowhead scale which is you you you know No, I'm going to try to read that a little better.
44:26 Unaspisianonensis. Then kills tobacco moth larvae. Larva. Then it kills cabbage moth larva. Cabbage moth larva. Oh, you were asking about cabbage moth. Oh yeah, it kills cabbage moth. It wasn't listed in the top, but it's listed down here. It killed a larva. fruit worm moth larva so this might work for um those things eating the um kabocha squashes around here perilla leaf moth larva right there slug moth larva never heard of slug moth larva before but i'm sure i've seen that it looks like it's a spiky little thing i don't know if you can you
45:07 see it i don't even have good lighting in here but uh that thing this all it's a it's a spiky looking guy kills diamondback moth larva right there and diamondback moth larva again which there's two of those for some reason i'm not sure why but there's two of those maybe he meant to put something else there i'm not sure so so what is for killing all these moths all these things here What is the recipe? What is the thing? The recipe is using Jadam wedding agent. So let me hang on one sec. Let me pull these things out behind me.
46:03 So, number one, you need Jadam Wedding Agent. I know it's backwards and it looks like AWL, but it's actually JWA. It's because I mirror the camera for some reason, because I don't know. I like looking at a mirrored camera versus the non-mirrored. I don't know. Anyway, you need soap. This is soap. You can use Dr. Bronner's. You can use Dawn soap. This is soap. It's soap concentrate. It is, uh, sorry, I'm opening it here. It is, I don't know if you can see the suds in there. You can't, I can't see the suds. I don't want to pour it on my keyboard, but yeah,
46:42 this is just soap. It's, uh, he makes his own. You can make your own super easy to make. Um, it's, uh, you know, we'll go over the soap recipe maybe next time, something like that. So, um, so soap, it says you need, uh, eight liters of it. So how much are you actually going to make? I think he's making a 500 liter batch, which is 132 gallons. So if you're not going to make 132 gallons or 500 liters, you're going to need to scale this, right? So, um, so 500 liters, eight. So to make 500 liters of this, you're going to need eight liters of soap.
47:22 So I'll leave the math up to you because, you know, hopefully you passed high school algebra and you can do this type of math. If not, look for the updated version of the app. No, I haven't made an app for this, but I should. I should, I should, I should. I have the pests in here. So you need, again, to make 500 liters of water, you're going to need eight liters of the soap, the Jadam wedding agent, also known as just soap. We talked about how egoic he was saying that he invented this, even though Dr. Bronner invented it in the sixties and he only
47:59 invented in the nineties. So prior invention, that's why it's not patented. Yeah. Okay. But let's not, let's, uh, let's humble ourselves. Let's have a new beginning here. Let's just pretend like, um, this is good. And then other thing you're going to need. So there's only two ingredients besides water. First one is the soap, the wetting agent. The second one is Jerusalem artichoke JHS, which JHS stands for JADAM herbal solution. JADAM herbal solution. And you're going to need 15 liters of that. So this is again into that 500 liters of water,
48:40 you're going to need 15 liters. So if you can do some algebra, you can figure out how to dose this. If you can't, just wait and I'll make an app for that. So let's look at my kit here and find the JA one. It's not in my kit. It's not in my kit. I don't have Jerusalem artichoke unless he used a different acronym. Hang on, let me look one more time. How would he not have this in the kit? We're just going to use PA and say it's Jerusalem
49:33 artichoke. I don't know. Anyway, you make these herbal solutions. I talked about it there in the book, how to make these herbal solutions. You basically take a whole bunch of Jerusalem artichoke Let me pull up the book while I'm talking about it, because I have it in the book here. It is, it's actually in the new edition. So going down here to make these herbal pest solutions. Herbal pest solutions. And we'll go swap this over there. Transition that over. There you go. And this is the herbal pest solution. It's terribly low cost.
50:10 and you basically gather the plant. In this case, it would be Jerusalem artichoke. Fill the pot with the plant material and cover it with water and then boil that sucker until half the water remains and then filter out into small bottles with liquid while it's still hot and turn the bottles on their sides. And when I'm talking about small bottles, I'm talking about small bottles like this. In your case, maybe you want to do 15 liters of this if you're going to make 500 liters, you know, because that's what it's going to take. Um, so maybe you want to get a big,
50:41 uh, what is that? That's like, uh, that's like four gallons, four gallons. So you're going to have to get an eight gallon fricking thing and boil it to get it down to be that. Um, but then you get that Jerusalem artichoke and then put it in a, you know, or just dump it straight in raw, whatever. It doesn't matter if you're going to store it, put it in small bottles and turn them on their sides. These are just small bottles for the kit, right? So you can go test things out and do things. But once you open the bottle, it's going to rot and then it's going to explode and detonate.
51:11 It happened to a few of my things where I opened them from that kit and then they detonated. But this is how you make a Jadam herbal solution right here. Take a screenshot, do it, or, you know, get the book, new edition coming out soon, I guess, and do that. And then now you have the solution. So I'll read what he says to do. So it says, mix the above ingredients. So again, that's the soap at eight liters and the Jerusalem artichoke at 15 liters, which is four gallons. Mix the above ingredients into water, 132 gallons. If infestation is serious, increase the Jadam wetting agent to 10 liters.
51:55 So more soap, which isn't that much different, but yeah. or apply at sunset followed by another application early next morning. You can replace Jerusalem artichoke with pokeweed, ginkgo, Korean pasc flower root. Number seven is stronger than number six. I didn't read number six for you. To add germicidal effects, control diseases, add 1 to 2 liters of the sulfur. We didn't talk about that yet. Pesticide becomes very strong if you increase both the soap and the herbs. The herbs.
52:41 You can apply repeatedly if the sulfur is not used. So if you use sulfur, just do it once. If you don't use sulfur, you can do it multiple times, I guess. For hairy pests like slug moth larvae, yeah, that spiky looking guy, thosa, thosa sinensis, repeatedly apply and wet them thoroughly. If you add a half kilo of very fine red clay powder, it increases the effectiveness. So the red clay powder kind of magnetically sticks to the things and brings and draws these chemicals closer to the thing. That's why he adds red clay powder.
53:27 It was also in his fire ant recipe. He used red clay powder. Very, very essential in that. You can replace it with very fine rock powder, but the type of rock might not mix well in the pesticide. do a mixture test prior to make sure it is safe. So this is the, you know, in general, what I just read there is his general way of doing it. And that's how to mix their own pesticides. Like I said, how to do these, that's basic recipe ratios that should mess up all those things. So if you don't have Jerusalem artichoke, you can use like Korean pasc flour.
54:12 So, Korean pasc flower root, I do have that one, K-P-F-R, right? So this is in my kit, so if I don't have the Jerusalem artichoke, I got this in my kit. This is super toxic, watch out. And what else did they say? You could also use ginkgo and pokeweed. Here's some pokeweed. You see how this bottle is expanded? I don't know if you can see that at the bottom. But this is because I opened it and I closed it. But this is the pokeweed here. PW, pokeweed. And GF.
54:58 The ginkgo flower, I think. Is that what it's saying? Ginkgo. I believe this is ginkgo. GF. I don't know. Maybe it's something else. I should. I don't know. But GF. yeah so having a kit having all these herbs ready to go knowing when to use what to use how to use it um very essential so again you mix these things up it doesn't talk about the amount you need to spray, believe it or not here. Um, so I guess just soak it down, just soak it down like Aaron Brown.
55:43 Uh, yeah. Um, so yeah, just soak it down, put it on there. Uh, if you have a foam gun, uh, he does talk about it in the very back here about a foam gun, the more you can foam it and get it directly on those pests. Spram should take them to heaven or hell, depending on how you believe in things. Or, you know, maybe they'll reincarnate or, you know, maybe they just get absorbed into the matrix and become food for the next generation, which is probably more correct. But that's how you mess up these things. Just soak it down. Make sure you get it all over the leaves,
56:22 get it all over the pest and make sure you do a test to make sure you're not going to burn your plants before you put it on right and you can lower or raise the dilutions to get it to be effective it's best if you take some of those pests like i said put them in a petri dish spray this directly on them spritz it on them make sure they die because otherwise you're going to go out there spray your whole field and maybe it wasn't even effective so get some of the pests bring them in spray them on a small petri dish find your effective dose go spray what you thought was your
56:49 your minimum effective dose on some of your plants make sure it doesn't burn your plants then go out and do the rest right um how long do you have to wait after applying the solution to harvest the leaves do you have to wait days weeks um i don't know i don't know it's in this book somewhere um you know they'll tell you it's all you got to go then get a chemical analysis That's why I don't use these pesticides. They're, they're, they're like, you're, you're putting poison on it to kill something and then you're going to eat it. And it's like, okay, um, sure.
57:25 Why not just eat the one that the bugs on it? I don't, I don't know. Anyway, but I do, I do want to answer your question properly. How long do you have to wait? Um, the soap, the soap itself breaks down in three days, three days. You should have a 98% of it should be gone. Uh, just so it breaks down really fast. The soap is gone in three days. the herbs how fast did they break down um i would say a week is probably good i don't uh i don't know you'd have to try to see it depends on what herb you're going to use right
57:58 if you're going to use um you know pokeweed might be different than ginkgo might be different than korean pasc flower root is different than maybe um the jerusalem artichoke but i would assume it's an ask you me um that about a week uh it should be pretty much broken down two weeks for sure uh would probably be absolutely safe um and these things however you know every time they're doing the jadam lecture he'll he'll like spray it in rayun's mouth and like the whole idea is that these are edible pesticides it'll kill the bugs but it won't kill you so i don't think you have
58:37 to worry about human toxicity. Maybe the Korean past flower root, you do have to worry about human toxicity. You know, there are gnarlier herbs than others. And you want to be very smart on this and, you know, try to spray it before, knock your pest back before you're near your harvest, right? You don't want to just spray it on and then harvest it. I cannot definitively answer you because there are too many variables here and I'm not sure how fast it rains where you're at and what's happening and how things are going and your harvest procedures and do you wash it after you
59:13 harvest it I have no idea so um so I um anyway with that uh small amount of tests um you know feed it to your neighbor that you're not so keen on if they don't die then assume maybe it's safe Either that or they are very robust and or I'm not advocating for any, you know, just take that as a joke. So days, weeks, I would say, you know, the longer you wait, the better because these things are going to break down quicker. So with that, I did want to get to these other two recipes here. let's just go through here and I will just give you the very basics of these
1:00:00 because we only got a few more minutes so if you are dealing with the white flies here white flies, greenhouse white flies maybe I should take more time for this I don't know, we'll go into a little bit over time for you because I got a few more minutes here so we'll see can I suggest a ways to remove digest non-ionic surfactants from the soil from pre-emergent applications microorganisms they're going to break down the vast majority of everything so go make good IMO make a liquid IMO tea put that out there hopefully that will break things down but the best way to do it is to not
1:00:43 spray those things in the first place but if you have it the microbes they might do their work so getting on to stink bugs thrips greenhouse whitefly turnip moth flea beetle pear sucker fruit fly onion fly mosquito grasshopper etc um this one also deals with bean bugs silver whitefly turnip moth larvae pear piscillia, greenhouse whitefly, tangerine thrips, winter cherry bugs, mosquitoes, and fruit flies, all those things that we hate, right? Kill them all. Actually, they're part of nature, and you probably just need to balance it. But anyway, if you do want to kill everything,
1:01:26 because that's, you know, it's definitely the American way, you can go by mixing 10 liters of Jadam Wedding Agent, the soap. It's just soap. I'm not going to call it JWA. It's like he didn't invent it. Dr. Browners. We'll just call it Dr. Browners. 10 liters of Dr. Browners. It's just soap. Okay. It's liquid soap. Then 15 liters of the Korean pasc flower root. So I've already mentioned that one prior, right? I know it's blurry. You can't see it. I got this like portrait mode thing going on. um so into again 132 gallons because that's all his things are 500 liter things i don't know why
1:02:11 who the heck makes 500 liters it's like you i mean i guess if you're a serious farmer and you're doing it eight hours a day 500 liters probably makes sense for you but then if you're talking about making your wife do this like how the hell is my wife going to lift 132 gallons ain't gonna happen um maybe with she's getting better driving the tractor maybe that's how um so mix those above ingredients okay so again for for all these things that i just mentioned uh you know you can go back uh 10 liters of soap 15 liters of the korean past flower or herbal
1:02:50 solution and then into 500 liters of water. This is the strongest of all Jadam pesticides. Korean pasc flower root can control almost all insects. If serious, increase the soap up to 15 liters and the Korean pasc flower root solution to 20 liters. So again, you kind of got a scale here. You can increase it. If sulfur is not used, you can apply this twice a day or between one to two days. Number nine, which is this is number nine, includes the effect of all number six, seven, and eight. This can be used to kill pests in the soil, reduce the volume of ingredients by
1:03:38 half. So if you're killing them in the soil, make it half that. To add germicidal effect and control disease, add one to two liters of the sulfur. Pesticide becomes very strong if you increase both the soap and the herbal solution. Do not repeatedly use at strong concentrations of the soap being over 10 liters. It can damage white powder on some fruits and cause growth problems. So here's talking about overdosing. Be super careful. You can apply repeatedly if the sulfur is not used. If you add a half kilo of very fine red clay powder, it increases the effectiveness.
1:04:27 You can replace it with a very fine rock powder, but the type of rock may not mix well with the pesticide. Do a mixture test prior to make sure it is safe. So basically this is the dynamite of all the recipes. You want to go with the weaker stuff first, but if you can't kill things with that, then go with this one here and kill it all. Or just improve your soil health, your plant fertility, you know, your, your, your plant, uh, maybe you won't have these problems. Um, but if not nuke them with this, this is the, uh, the Jadam, right. Which is kind of funny
1:05:08 because Jadam, isn't it, isn't it, uh, isn't the Jadam like the, the mother of all bombs or Moab or I don't know. Jadam is like a bunker buster bomb, right? So it's kind of funny. It's called Jadam. Um, but this one with the Korean past flower and I, and obviously if you go back and listen to this, maybe you will find that I included these different things of how to mix them up differently. Um, but you will kill stink bugs, throeps, greenhouse, whitefly, turnip moth, flea beetle, pear sucker, fruit, fruit fly, onion, mosquito, grasshopper, all these things.
1:05:39 Dead. Um, how much to spray? Again, you just soak it down. Just make sure you're soaking it. Make sure you're getting it where the pests are. You can't just spray it where they're not. You really got to go in there and get it exactly where they are. Um, I don't know. It doesn't say how much per acre to spray. I mean, I'm not reading the whole book, obviously. You know, you got it. There's a whole book ahead of this. I'm just reading the very back and giving you kind of these recipes. I'm sure it lists it somewhere in there. Maybe we'll get to that.
1:06:06 Maybe not. It's kind of fun to cover this stuff. And the last one I want to give you is for the slug and snail for today. We'll go a little bonus, little bonus. I've been watching a lot of John Levi, if you can't tell. And there's a new John Levi today. It comes out Sunday, every Sunday, just like the office hours. Wow. So the last one here, number 10, number 10 is slug and snail. So this one is three liters of the soap and then 1.5 kilos of sodium hydroxide, which is caustic soda, which be super careful mixing this caustic soda and water because it's
1:06:45 going to heat up. Although you're only mixing 1.5 kilos into 500 liters of water. So again, all these recipes are for 500 liters. So three liters of soap, one and a half kilos of caustic soda or sodium hydroxide. And it says dissolve caustic soda in a small quantity of water first and be careful. It's going to get really hot. Wear freaking PPE, eye protection gloves. Don't let this stuff get on your skin. It will burn holes in you. If you've ever seen Fight Club where he kisses his hand and puts this on him, it's like it'll burn you. It's super gnarly. Be super careful.
1:07:27 And, you know, don't even do this at home. I'm not advising you to do this. You know, be warned. All those usual disclaimers, don't do this. But here's the recipe. mix the above quantity of soap and water to make 500 liters if you add an herbal solution it can control aphids mites and moths make sure it does not touch the skin when spraying yes because this stuff is caustic soda so don't get it on you be super careful do a concentration test in prior nice spelling error there, transolution error. To add germicidal effects, control diseases, add one to two liters of the sulfur.
1:08:13 You can increase the soap and add the herbal solution to achieve pesticidal and germicidal effects. If you add a half kilo of very fine red clay powder, it increases the effectiveness. So maybe you're seeing a trend here of all these recipes. They're all kind of similar. you can replace it with a very fine rock powder but i guess you know you know what i'm going to say next is the type of rock might not mix well with the pesticide right because i said that about the same with every single one of these they're all very basic very similar just throw some dirt
1:08:46 in there make sure it's super fine do a mixture test prior to make sure it's safe caustic soda can be mixed to strengthen pesticidal effect, but be very, very careful. And it says very, very twice. So be very, very, very, very, very, very careful never to contact the skin. Do a concentration test in this case too, right? So the pest you can control, it says slugs and snails you can control acusta dispecta slug winged mite tobacco aphid hayharista atriplicus swallow aphid aphys furinosa azalea white mite velvet mite aphid which is
1:09:36 is rolyucontoragicola. So all these in this picture here, you can control all these things and mess them up with adding caustic soda in there, but be extremely careful. I did not tell you to do this. Yeah. You know, I just, it's just a recipe out there. Don't do it yourself. Okay. So again, don't do this. Just, you know, be super clear. Don't ever do any of this. Don't ever do any of this. But now you know, and if you want to do it yourself, yeah, whatever. I didn't tell you to do it. So anyway, it's kind of fun going through
1:10:19 Madag, going through this. I hope you're enjoying office hours doing these things. Yeah, so be careful. Don't ever eat any of these things. Even though I've seen it being done, uh, don't ever eat any of it. Don't ever sell any of this produce. Uh, but make sure you farm eight hours a day apparently, and you have a good wife. And for all the ladies out there, I would assume that translates over to having a good husband. You must also teach your husband how to do this. And for all the people that are into the, you know, same sex stuff, make sure whatever gender you want to pick for your, uh, your
1:10:56 friends, make sure that they're safe to do it. So, um, you know, you didn't hear it here. Don't tell your friends about the office hours. Don't like, or subscribe and see you next week. Oh, oh, oh. Okay. Well, anyway, it's raining again and I'm about to strap on my, uh, my jungle boots go down to the river. Have a great time. I hope whatever you're doing this week is amazing. Enjoy March. Um, what, what is it? Uh, March 4th tomorrow, March 4th. Well, uh, and then, uh, may the 5th be with you. It's coming up soon. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks,
1:11:45 Nate. Good to see you. Thanks to everybody for tuning in, especially, you know, the members, We got Cecily out here. We got, you know, Stone Mason. We got Bird. We got all these things on here. You know, you didn't hear it here. Don't tell people about this. Keep it secret. Keep it safe. Make sure my new subscribers goes down to zero. Oh, we'll see if the reverse technology works. We'll see. I don't know. It doesn't, you know, whatever. I do this for you. if you're here this was just for you don't share it all right anyway love you thank you i'm gonna
1:12:25 get out of here before i keep making jokes about this um and again i'm just gonna cut out i'm gonna make sure it's on this thing first because sometimes i try and cut out and then i get to the other one all right ready i'm gone see you peace love uh long love the natural farmer aloha bye