Mosaic Virus, Banana Bunchy Top, and Making Lactic Acid Bacteria

3:00 so hey aloha good morning um good day good good wherever you are because you know that's how the internet and it works. I appreciate you guys here live. And then also all those of you watching this later, um, enjoy Korean natural farming office hours for March 12th, 2023. Um, perhaps

3:51 just before the great banking collapse, who knows, who knows what's on the horizon. The only way to get any solace these days is to appeal to some higher power. Hopefully a benevolent one. And hopefully just, you know, depends on how you are, monotheist, polytheist. But in the end, it is all one. So today, preponderance of the great. There are great pressures at work. Thank God they're at work. By meeting them with modesty and patience, you avoid misfortune and meet with success. The image of this hexagram is that of a beam under great load.

4:41 It sags in the middle and is in danger of giving way. You are in a similar situation now. The pressures of the moments are enormous, and there's a temptation to wiggle away and flee. and to resort to plotting and conniving and aggressive actions of the ego. Oh, yes. It is by resisting this temptation and holding firmly to proper principles that you survive and succeed. I mean succeed. Lol. this is in fact a moment for which you have been preparing yourself for some time unfortunately

5:29 a powerful energy has been accumulated imagine a flood pressing against a dam and it's up to you to direct its flow if you succumb to fear desire or anger and resort to incorrect behaviors the dam bursts, and the pent-up energy causes destruction and misfortune. If, on the other hand, you cling to what is correct, that's modesty, balance, patience, independence, and gentleness, then you will obtain the aid of the higher power,

6:16 and the accumulated energy will be directed towards a profound success. Thank God. What is called for now is quiet integrity. With others, no matter how they may assault you, remain modest and patient. Good luck. In your actions, seek to penetrate gently and steadily rather than forcibly and explosively. Meet the difficulties of the day cheerfully and resolutely. By taking great care now and by remaining correct in every moment, by embodying the principles of the sage, you make possible the arrival of good fortune.

7:06 And, yeah, so I just want to thank you guys, you know, and showing up again. Some of you here over the last week, you got to see a little bit of me in a frustrated state. And only if you're here live, because I took it down immediately because it was super embarrassing. So you'll notice there is no episode from March. Was it 5th, right? Yeah. And I always appreciate your love, your forgiveness, your compassion, your understanding, everything to understand that, you know, in natural farming, It's up to all of us and we all go through ups and downs. And, um, so I want to thank you for

7:48 tuning back in. I know solar gourmet Mark was here, you know, all you guys and, um, what's up Marcus in New York. It's great to see you guys, you know, really building this whole thing up. And we even got someone tuning in from Japan. BM, what's up? Um, spring is just hitting cool season plants just starting growing the last few days man that's awesome it's so great to see um you know the world and go through these changes right it goes through winter and then it comes back to spring and then the whole you know death and birth recycle

8:27 rebirth whole thing going on you know it's pretty cool to see here in hawaii you know we we don't quite get that we kind of get this always persistent um thing but at least it stopped raining um and it stopped raining kind of last week and it's been just oh i tell you you know it was a month of drought month and a half of drought and then it was a month of rain and those types of things man if you don't have it balancing back and forth it's hard And, but things to report is that, you know, even though I started to spray all the natural farming things early in January, things started to flower.

9:06 Then we got hit heavy by the rain. I think the natural farming stuff really helped the flowers stay on the plants, even though it was getting hit with so much rain. And the reason that, um, you know, flowers fall off when it rains is because the rain contains, um, nitrogen in it. So, you know, oftentimes we're all worried about getting nitrogen into the, into the ground and actually a fresh rainfall will actually have some nitrogen in it as well as oxygen and, you know, uh, other things that plants roots need and plants need for

9:46 growth. Um, but that extra excess nitrogen, when it rains real heavy, um, it's not like that it's damp and then the dampness makes the flower break off or fall. It's that extra nitrogen that falls and hits it and it forces the plant to be like, oh, like I didn't really want that right now because nitrogen makes it go back to vegetative growth, right? And so it goes, it's like just blooming, just going to puberty. And that's like, no, you're going back to vegetative growth. And it's just like, oh, it drops all its flowers, you know? And so then you

10:19 get poor fruit set. So having, you know, a month of rain after everything's flowering is not, or while during flower is really, um, not that great of a situation. So it's, you know, that, that's even more of the reason to double up and to do more natural farming during those times, even, even during the, um, even during the rain, you know, especially when it's raining and you think, well, I'm spraying this stuff and it's not going to, you know, it's not going to absorb into the plant because it's just raining. It's just going to wash it off. But, um, maybe not when

10:57 it's pouring, pouring rain, go spray, but right. You know, like if you get a little lull in it, I mean, I don't think it rains anywhere else in the world. Like it rains here. Um, you know, maybe, maybe some other places in the tropics where they get monsoon season, it just rains for like, you know, months or weeks or whatever. Um, but if you get a little lull, go spray, right because it's still obviously if it's raining it's overcast so you're not going to have it you know cause problems of even if it's midday and you're out spraying it's like it's fine if

11:26 it's overcast and the plant really absorbs all these foliar sprays that we give them within 15 minutes you know 15-20 minutes it's like it's already absorbed it it's already like brought it into its body because all the solutions are spraying the food the cleanser medicine structure, all those things are water soluble. They've already been digested. They're already ready for the, um, ready for the, the, um, you know, to absorb the, the nutrients and everything. And they, they just bring it right into their bodies and they don't even have to digest it.

12:02 It's like, so, so that little 15 minute lull, you get out there, you spray, it's like, now the plant has this nutrition. Now it has, it's, it's brought back to balance, right? All that rain was offsetting it, making it more nitrogen, geogynous, making it go back to more vegetative and you spray the other things, you bring it back to more balance. And now you're able to have that nutrition to hold on to those, um, you know, the, the, the flowers and keep them there, even though it's raining. And so I,

12:30 you know, I think, you know, I'm looking out and, um, you know, my mac nut trees were, um, well, it's actually my dad's mac nut trees, um, were in full flower. And, um, and now I'm looking at them and they have little mac nuts farming. So even though it was that huge rain, because I was spraying the natural farming, I believe I've gotten through the flowering into like a better fruit set. And also, um, you know, my lychee trees here, that's actually, again, my dad's lychee trees, um, but you know, you know, spraying it on the farm and, um, and they're really looking good.

13:07 They really got a good, nice fruit set. They're really, um, doing well. And that's, that's kind of the miracle of KNF. You know, that's, that's what I want to be doing is, you know, getting out there to spray at the right times, especially when you have this poor weather coming on and you may think to yourself, Oh, it's not worth it. Cause it's going to rinse, but no, it's out there do it. And it absorbs things and they get in there and it gets even better, you know? And so, yeah, we, We definitely got a global group here. We got Germany checking in and Western Australia.

13:43 What's up, Western Australia? Yeah. So if the other side is the Gold Coast, you guys must be what, like the Silver Coast on that side? I don't know. I don't know what they say in Australia about that. But envy the rain. I would be super careful. If you got this kind of rain there, it would probably be catastrophic. I was just watching the news, not the news, but just like something that showed me there's a huge flooding in California. And they're like, it rained a foot of rain and tragic flooding. And I'm like, a foot of rain regularly falls here in

14:23 a day. Like, like, it only semi starts to flood when there's like, you know, four feet of rain dropping in 24 hours. You know what? I think one time we got like, um, over six feet of rain in 24 hours. Um, and so when you, when you envy the rain, just, just be careful what you're, what you wish for, because if you got this type of rain where you're at, um, probably most of the stuff would wash away. Um, so just, just, you know, I always just, you know, anytime it's not raining, I don't pray for rain anytime it's raining I don't pray for sun I just let it do its thing

15:03 because I know it will come and it'll come at the right time and so anyway that's that's where we're at with that kind of intro bringing up to where we're at hopefully I'll get the drone out this week it's really nice today beautiful day you know and mainly myself just on the farm what I've been up to, uh, really been dealing with my cows. Um, you know, I got five cows now, got my milk cow, um, and trying to keep her on the best pastures possible and then trying to continue to, to improve my pastures. Um, and then I've been grazing my two Wagyu beef cows, um,

15:50 in the yards and where we used to just keep a nice lawn. I'm now letting it grow out a little bit and just mowing it with the cows, which is awesome because they mow it way better. And it's also interesting to see, um, the, what's happening to the yard in terms of like the cows hooves and stuff kind of, um, you know, when it's real rainy and stuff to kind of mess up those smoothness of yard, which is kind of nice to have a nice smooth yard. You don't, you know, you don't even walk in your yard and tripping kind of thing. Um, but it's interesting to see

16:24 where, um, the cows are, are urinating and, um, defecating, you know, laying fat dumps. Um, and some of it we're, we're scraping up and using for other garden beds that are nearby, but some of it, you know, um, just leaving it on the yard. And it's interesting to see where the, where the patty or the urine hit the ground. There's a nice little brown, uh, or excuse me, Brown, it's brown to my eyes, green flush around it. You can see the, as the patties kind of decompose, you can see this leaving the ground more fertile around there. The grouse is growing better where the patties were.

17:04 And that, when I was studying with Elaine Ingham back in 2012, when she was here and I took her five-day workshop, up. She was talking about, yeah, you can tell that your grass is, um, in, in fertile, you know, like you, you like here, here you think your yard is like all awesome and like as, as best as it can be. And if an animal, like a dog or, you know, a cat or you or whatever is urinating or, or taking craps in your yard, um, you'll notice those, those green spots around. And it's just proof that your entire yard, your entire grass is actually somewhat, you know, nitrogen deficient or

17:57 fertilizer deficient. It's not the microbiology in a yard tends to be some of the worst out there, right? Because I'm always cutting the grass down to, you know, what, two inches, less than two, you know, inch, whatever, two, you know, two inches, two and a half inches. I don't know, like that, that short stuff. And then there's no roots, right? Or there's very little roots. They're very shallow surface roots. It's not like I'm getting deep penetration roots down. And then how are those roots in the microorganisms? So they can only feed a very shallow

18:30 swath of microorganisms. And so then how are those microbes supposed to, you know, do nitrogen fixing? How are they supposed to do, you know, nutrient exchange? And they don't. And largely what you end up with is a kind of a sick monoculture of very shallow grass that's hanging on and nothing, you know, I guess people like that. They like the homogeny of it. Homogeny? Homogeny? I don't know. Of it, you know, similar species there and kind of a monoculture of it and they like that grass. But ultimately, it's a very unhealthy system. It's like very thin

19:17 skin. Sure, it's better than no skin where it's going to form a scab, but it's like kind of this very thin skin and it's not very fertile. And then subsequently leading you to then, if you're not taking very good care of your yard or you don't have enough water on it, it'll die very quickly. It'll, um, you know, most, most folks try to like even fertilize their yard with like, um, you know, some sort of turf builder or something, but it's just showing that anywhere those green spots are happening, that's, that's extra, you know, extra fertilizer,

19:51 but extra biology starting to, to, to, um, to bloom in that area and starting to bring more richness to that area. And so what she was saying is if you're seeing those rings, like something pees in your yard and then there's a ring around it in a week or two, and it's a nice green flush out, it's just a proof that your entire yard is in a very poor state of fertility and nutrition and life. And so it's funny for me to see these cows going around, starting to fertilize, drop these things and start to see the grass get better, thicker.

20:28 I mean, I, I don't know, like for me where I'm grazing, it maybe makes sense. I really want it to be rich and fertile. And maybe in most cases, people's case where they're just mowing their lawn just to keep it mowed because they're, um, you know, they have too much money and they don't know what to, you know, they don't know how to plant a garden, um, that, um, or, you know, places for kids to play and all that, but you know, I'm not just totally hating on yards. Um, uh, well maybe, but, um, but that if I took like a compost tea, um, and I take these KNF solutions

21:03 and I just spray them on my grass, um, I, I would probably see benefit. I would probably see the grass get better. I'd probably see, um, you know, uh, just more fertile, quicker growing, better everything. So, um, so yeah, on my, on my weekly spray trip around, I am now, um, you know, now thinking of just doing my, doing my lawn and, um, you know, really trying to get that fertility up because I know that, you know, if, if the grass is unhealthy, that means disease is coming near me, right. You know, and any kind of whatever illness disease, it's just like, if it's not

21:42 healthy and it doesn't have an immune system and it's not a healthy microorganisms moving, then it's, um, it's, you know, it's, it's unhealthy basically. So why am I continuing to perpetuate this unhealthy thing surrounding my house, my home, where I live? Um, why am I, you know, just like neglecting that basically. And it's like, I don't think I will anymore. I really think, Trying to ubiquitously get the solutions out there, spreading even IMO in my yard may make a huge difference. So really trying to get into that and to do those things.

22:24 And then BM is saying maybe if you hit those pies with a mower or a flare mower, your dad wouldn't even know they're there. Aside from pie. pugging if it's too wet and they tear up the sod. Yeah. Well, yeah, yeah. Hitting, you know, and I'm not worried about the piles and those things. I'm just leaving them. I mean, they're, it's kind of a cool thing. I mean, if you look at our, our land, I lease majority of this land from my dad. So, um, you know, it's, it's, it's mine to do with, I do what I want within the

22:58 terms of the lease. Right. So he doesn't have much say on that. Um, and he, you know, he's all into natural farming and he thinks, you know, he, I'm grazing the cows and he's like, cool, man, that's awesome. You know, it's not like he's telling me not to do that. So, um, but yeah, just getting those things out there and letting it go, you know, um, but I think the ultimate way to do it is more, you know, compost tea, um, and I M O T, you know, growing, growing the biology, but then also putting the, the nutrients and the nutrition out there. Um, so we got a question here from the budget.

23:38 Goswami. What's up, man? Sounds like in Indian, India. Yeah. Awesome, man. He's asking what's causing mosaic virus disease? Well, mosaic virus disease is caused by the mosaic virus. and then the disease typically is like at least when i get mosaic virus on my taro my my kalo like uh i don't know what you call it um but but you know taro it's the hawaiian staple um you know it'll form these big splotches like and then the leaf will then rot out there and all these splotches it looks kind of like it got big chicken pox type of thing um and so what causes

24:24 mosaic virus is mosaic virus. Um, but what causes mosaic virus dis ease? That's a different question, right? Because things can have viruses and not express them, right? For instance, like I could have herpes and then like herpes in the mouth, whatever that, I don't even know what that is. And I don't have it, but I could have it, right? And there's people that, and they don't always have it, right? It's not always like they always have cold sores and they're always having cold sores.

25:02 The cold sores appear when they get stressed or when they eat the wrong food and that causes internal stress, right? And they have some sort of thing that takes them and brings their immune system down, right? And so, um, so what causes the virus is a virus, right? But what causes the disease disease and what causes the symptoms is a breakdown of the immune system of the plant or the animal or whatever is infected. Um, and so one way to keep, say, say I have mosaic disease around here and I, or excuse

25:46 me, mosaic virus around here. And clearly I do, right? Because my plants will on occasion express this and it's a virus. And every single tarot is a, besides, besides a few that you can do from seed, which I'm never, I've never done it from seed. I've always done it from just breaking off a bud and then cloning it. You know, it's like, that's a clone and then planting that. So the original parent has the, has the virus. That means it's child that comes off has the virus. So I'm constantly planting virus ridden, um, you know, material out there. Like I have no,

26:29 I have no way to get rid of it. I can't like go in and genetically go in and get rid of it. Um, It's there. But what I can do is I can build the immune system of that taro up so well that it won't express that mosaic virus in it. And so it's sure it's a carrier. Sure, it's infected. Sure, if I bring it somewhere else, it'll infect other things, especially if they have low immune system. But it's about getting the immune system of the plant as robust as possible. and how to do that is by bringing the plant into balance and giving it a balanced everything it

27:10 needs not too much of anything but exactly as much of it everything it needs and then it will have a better immune system it will grow it won't express this dis-ease it will continue to grow and and so for me what happens with the tarot is when it rains a lot when it rains a lot a lot a lot it causes stress on the plant even though taro was supposed to be this water loving thing um you know because i do dry land cultivation um it still stresses it out when it rains a whole lot and maybe it's not enough sunlight maybe it's you know whatever it's a multiple things of what

27:52 what i don't know what ultimately causes it i just know that when it rains a lot it does that And so if I put IMOs in the taro bed when I'm first doing it, a lot less mosaic virus. If I spray during adverse weather conditions, next to no mosaic virus. And I think you can walk around my farm right now and you won't even find any mosaic virus. And sure, it's here, but none of my plants are symptomatically showing this. They're just going ahead and continuing to grow. And it's pretty awesome. And then the other virus I'm, you know, really struggling with here is, you know, banana bunchy top.

28:35 And it's where the top just bunches together. And instead of growing out where, you know, a leaf comes out and the next leaf comes out, it's all like coming out like this. And it's all like trying to come out and all the leaves are cut and they bunch up and then the fruit can't even come out of there. And if you cut into the top of this and you just cut through there, you'll find it's just the most gross like horse butt smell of rot. And the aphids that are in there are all rotting in the top and causing this rot. And sure, it's a virus that caused that rot and this aphids that transferred it.

29:12 But the only the solution is I spray the maintenance solution plus lactic acid bacteria into there. So I hit the top, you know, I'm taking my little spray gun as I'm driving around the tractor and I'm hitting every single banana as I cruise through, you know, and if I hit that, then all of a sudden the plant will stop exhibiting that symptom. And after about a week, two weeks, three weeks of treatment, you'll start to see the next leaf. Instead of that bunching, it starts to come up. The next leaf, instead of that bunching, it starts to come up.

29:44 The next leaf, instead of that bunching, it starts to come up. And it basically grows through the disease. So it grows out of the disease, even though it still has the virus, right? And everyone else's solution, like the university, they come and they just inject your plant with Roundup and try to kill it and just kill it and be like, kill this death.

30:15 There's nothing recovering from this virus. It's over and it's dead and we want to contain the spread. So we're going to kill it. And that just then kills your banana, right? Your banana that was there. And instead of, you know, because, oh, it's viral material. It's like, well, just because, you know, someone has herpes, do you go kill them? No, you try to contain and control and minimize the symptoms and, you know, create conditions that don't cause them to be symptomatic and all these things like you try to avoid these things.

30:48 But that's, you know, I guess I'm sort of fringe on that of like thinking outside the box on this. And I've seen it time and time again on my land. If I have the time and energy to get out there and to spray, you know, and if it's really bad, you know, twice a week, get out there and spray. But once a week's pretty much good enough for it to grow out of that and not be symptomatic and to come through, you know, and not have disease, even though it has a viral presence. so anyway that's you know on on viruses on those that's you know a virus is just a small little

31:25 like um software patch update you know maybe it's a corrupt one and it causes bad things but it's also just changing the genome and um trying to select for plants that are in a healthy situation you know if the environment's unhealthy then that update is to kill that plant so that something else can grow so that it can restore and get that area healthy again. Like even though it seems like nature is sometimes pretty cruel towards us, it's actually fairly benevolent in terms of, sure, it's culling the weak and getting rid of the sick, but that's only to make room for

31:59 the healthy or to make room for something that's more compatible for that area. And that's kind of what viruses are and what they're doing here with us. So to understand that and to you know, just be like, well, if it wants to make the environment better, if I just make the environment better, then the virus doesn't have to be there to do this and the symptoms don't have to come. And I can just correct ahead of time. So again, this is why natural farming is all about getting in tune with nature. You know, some people will say harmony. I don't really like that word.

32:34 I'd rather say getting in balance with it so that everything, you know, goes this way, goes that way. It's all balanced, you know, because if you're talking about harmony, well, then where's the melody, you know, and you're still unbalanced, right? But balance implies balance. So it's that's why I like to say that. So anyway. And Braden up in here's up in Michigan. Check out Mowgli, Chaverna. You can Chaverna Farms. um i wish i had his his last name is kind of hard i'm not exactly sure i'm saying it right i'm just

33:12 remembering from what it was but mogli up there he does hemp stuff he's a cool dude check him out in michigan um he knows about knf and stuff he's trying to get it in and trying to get the hemp herd into things and he's a cool dude you'll like him um and so yeah yeah um so is there as b car rosa b car rosa car rosa yeah he's saying uh is there a scaled down version of the knf chicken coop um sure i mean uh you know around here folks do what

34:00 they call the Hubble bubble. Let me just, um, let me just pull this up. Natural farming, Hawaii.net. And then let me pull this up here. Wait for the internet. Wait for the internet. Let me just, uh, what you call it here to get this over here, go like this and show you. So natural farming, Hawaii.net, my website here. if you go up here to livestock and then you check out chickens and then you go to chickens here's the chickens and then plans and blueprints there's those there's somewhere on here

34:49 oh yeah that chicken okay it's not there Well, that's part of it is that, oh gosh, you know, organizing information and all this, you know. But the other place is, let's see here, trying to find this. So down here, let's see. well they're actually the University of Hawaii publications so sorry here even I'm trying to find it and I can't find it and it's not my stuff but I do believe

35:36 that here maybe Pure KMF has it here in this research let's see indigenous organisms livestock Oh, yeah. So I don't blame you guys for not being able to find information. Here it is, though. An introduction to natural farming poultry production in Hawaii. A wave of the future. And how would you know that's where it is and what it is? But that's the one. And this PDF here talks about the housing. And this is a Hubble Bubble coop design of kind of showing this small little mini coop. This is for, I'm not sure how many birds they're looking at here.

36:24 But they basically show you how to create one of these little Hubble Bubble. Chicken coops. There's a picture of it, you know, little mini thing there. It's not really the best picture of it, but anyway, there's a University of Hawaii document by Keala. She was Mike DuPont's intern for a while. And Lehua, yeah, both those girls, amazing women. um yeah basically iron roof over the thing little small thing you know two by four coming across two by six there you know um these are just small two by fours one by threes you know whatever

37:08 and this thing here small little small deal for you to uh see so hopefully this document would show you how to you know do a smaller scale one and uh do that um but yeah i don't i don't blame you guys for not being able to find information. I'm not even able to find that much of it. Maybe I should spend some time organizing. I don't know. I, I kind of go up and down in natural farming of like times I feel real passionate about it. And then other times I just feel like and so it's hard, you know, it's a lot, a lot of stuff. And, um, you know, it's, it's easier,

37:46 it's easier for me to make products that people can buy because then when I'm getting, I'm getting some money back and it's nice. Then I'm like, yeah, all right, cool. It really makes it so I'm getting, you know, that flow happening. Otherwise it's like, you know, I don't know. I really put a lot of time and charity into this, which I'm not, you know, it's like, I love it. And that's what we're doing, you know, but, uh, so, um, and then BM is saying, did I get the Android KNF dilution app patched yet?

38:14 I don't know what you mean by that. It's correct. Both apps are correct. I know some people say my app's wrong. It's not. It's based on MasterCho's Direct, you know, his exact stuff. You know, if I go here to, you know, MasterCho's original, let's see, I have it around here somewhere. but if I go to his stuff let's see, is it here yeah, it is let's see yeah, anyway, it's basically

39:07 it's a verbatim um natural or verbatim master chose recommendations is is what it is you know it's just so there's nothing wrong with the app so if you're asking if i patched it i don't i'm not sure what i was supposed to patch on it but that's just um yeah it's as far as i know it's it's correct um so that the Android app with the last Android patch kind of had a problem with the new Android patch. Compatibility. I'm pretty sure it is working. I did. I think it's back on the store. It was off the store for a little bit because of, you know, like they have you sign all these agreements

39:55 and stuff and basically sign your, you know, your soul away to these companies that are clearly not that ethical. Um, and so it's, but yeah, um, but it's there. It should be. It's KNF Solution Calculator on the Android store. I don't know. Let me just, let me see. Is it on there? Um, let me see. I'll just look up the Play Store here and see, and say KNF calculator. Spell that right. Search the Play Store. Let's see. Is it there? Well, it ain't in the first search results. That's for sure.

40:43 Maybe it's not on there. Can if solution. Calculator. It ain't in the... Oh, no, it's right there. It's right there. It's showing right there. That right there. It won't focus, but it's right there. That one right there. Yeah, it's on the store. So it's there. So I guess I'm glad I fixed that. All right. And so, um, Juan Santa is saying, I've been using liquid IMO and compost tea, but my sprayer clogs completely.

41:30 So I just drenched the soil with it. If I filter the tea, am I removing the microbes, specifically the fungal strands? No, no. I, you know, I would run your thing through a, I would run your T through a filter. And in fact, you know, I end up using these, they're called bubble hash bags here on Amazon, which, you know, I'm not really promoting Amazon, but I just search for hash bag here. And then these are, you know, like a 220 micron filter zip bag, like something like this,

42:19 where, you know, 220 microns, all the microbes are going to go through this, but it's going to pull out your, your things you don't want to clog up, you know, and so you can get, you know, here a two gallon bag. I probably should have some affiliate link for this, but it's like, you know, these, these bags here, you can get a 20 gallon one. Reason I like these is they're really, um, they're really, uh, sturdy. And so, you know, you can use them again and again and again, and just pour your tea through, you know, some sort of filter, like a 220 micron would be

42:56 fine. Um, you know, the things you don't worry about it for the other things, you know? Um, but yeah those those things um people people use them for you know making ash but i use them just for compost tea filters and filter bags they're great for that um and so yeah always always filter your tea before you put it into your sprayer you know otherwise yeah it's gonna clog right yeah so um then Aaron saying his hens started laying this week asparagus is popping alliums are jamming and honeysuckle buds burst in mad uh in Indiana one love cool man well Indiana man you should

43:50 check out stonemason you guys probably could be good friends up there of just you guys have both it sounds like great gardens and just growing the right crops and that's cool. I'm great. Yeah. Um, and yeah, thanks. You know, I do what I do because I really care about natural farming. I got someone here, my, my, um, it's actually my, my dad just turned 70 a couple of days ago. And so one of his friends is visiting and, you know, so we're turning an IMO pile with him, trying to show him about that. And it's funny, I just, I just love teaching natural farming and

44:25 stuff. And I end up going and just, you know, really put it in easy terms for him. He comes from kind of a conventional landscaping, um, NPK type background and able to take all the, you know, what we're doing and put it into his language and be like, look, this is what we're doing. He's like, ah, this is really cool. And he's like, this is a, you know, it's a completely different paradigm, but I totally see, you know, what's happening, why you're doing these things, you know, and everyone wants to grow more biologically friendly. And he was just talking

44:57 about the price of fertilizer just skyrocketing. And, you know, I mean, everything's skyrocketing in terms of, you know, what's what happens when you print $10 trillion or, you know, whatever globally, it's probably even more of what we've done. But when you inject 40% new money into the money supply, everything's going to go up by 40% at least, if not more. Right. So, um, but understanding that and understanding natural farming gives you the hedge against inflation, because, you know, it's meant, you know, if you're just, especially if you're doing the

45:28 disgustingly cheap methods where you're not using sugar, it's just like, it's, it's, um, you know, it's getting cheaper year over year and your food's worth more. So you're actually making more money as a farmer. So, uh, inflation should be good if you're doing, um, you know, Korean natural farming, um, you know, especially a disgustingly cheap parts of it. Um, and it just snowed a blanket too. So that's amazing. You guys are going asparagus pops through the snow. It's a hardcore plant, man. Um, what's up tons in tent Tanzania, Tanzania,

46:05 Tanzania. Tanzania. And then I had this this past week, too, I had a had a brethren call me from he's living in California, but then he's going back to Kenya and Lake Victoria, and he's making natural farming there. And he wants to, he was interested in Elaine Ingham's course trying to understand soil biology and bring that back to the great folks of Africa, because, you know, they're all great agriculturalists over there, but they don't know much about, you know, regenerative agriculture on a broad scale. And they're being targeted by these large American

46:44 and, you know, European agrochemical corporations, which are, you know, telling them the only way to grow is by buying these chemicals and these seed, treated seeds and these genetic modifications. And really they're, you know, if you knew regenerative agriculture and you're a great agriculturalists, there's no need for that stuff. You can grow and make better yields with just, um, you know, power of nature using, you know, disgustingly cheap methods and then working up to the whole, you know, uh, pure K and F methods of really what master Cho was teaching of really

47:17 getting into, um, high quality natural farming. So love, love the African folks and, uh, those guys. um yeah and yeah yeah he's talking about the app uh the goofman's talking about the app actually being more precise because the app doesn't actually round um i mean sure it rounds a little bit but it doesn't do a rounding error to begin with whereas most calculations if i tell you it's four milliliters per gallon you're going to be wrong as that scales are you going to be extremely wrong? Probably not. Is it still going to work? Most likely. But as you get the app,

47:58 you get even closer to your correct dilutions for what's recommended for Master Cho. And so that app is actually the most, um, the most accurate way of, of calculating out how much KNF solutions to make. Um, so, um, and willie what's up my new zealand friend aroha um he's saying what's the shelf life for the leaf bloom and fruit mixtures um i have yet to try this over time um the shelf life for him is you know about three months or so once you mix everything sure it can go longer um sure it can go less but uh you know three months is about what master cho

48:47 says. Where's the science? Where's the proof? Where's the actual side-by-side trials? I don't know, but that's what he says because basically all those things start interacting with each other, right? This one starts interacting with that one and these things. And of those solutions and the concentrates, I'm just, I'm going to pull up my book here and just go to those solutions real quick because let's see my group there we go um let's see right here and then let me switch it over let's see we'll go with we'll go with the side by side

49:25 okay so this is these are the this is what he's talking about leaf solution would be food cleanser medicine structure fuel and protectors all put together bloom would be food cleanser medicine structure fuel protectors and minerals and fruit would be food cleanser medicine structure fuel minerals reproduction together and so if you're gonna mix kia ora yeah there you go there you go it's not a roha it's uh pure life i guess is what you're saying right if i was to translate that across to my island i think that's what i'm doing you know kia ora means like it's like pure life right

50:04 something like that pure life of god i think something like that kia ola because it'd be an l ola life right kia kia would be like ki pure uh god so anyway but um so anyway if you're if you're gonna mix all these together yeah cool awesome that's kind of funny it's like i speak new zealand um i'm sure it wasn't called new zealand it's probably called you know, Maori, Maori, Moku, or I don't know something, but, um, um, so, so these, if, if you're going to mix this in a concentrate, don't include the protectors. Okay. So you could,

50:46 you could mix the food cleansers, medicine, structure, fuel altogether in a concentrate in these, um, similar to how you make maintenance solution, but don't put in the protectors. The protectors are going to freaking start dying and interacting with these other things. And, um, you're not going to get their full benefit when you use them. They're, they're, they're, you know, they're alive, they're living, they're not going to be happy with that. Um, similar to the bloom, don't put in the protectors again. And then also, you know, and then in the fruit, there is no

51:21 of those. So, you know, you can combine these all together and keep them in concentrate form and then later dilute them. However, what I really, really, really just ultimately recommend is that you just make a maintenance formula as a concentrate, and then say I'm going to use it, and I want to do it for leaf, then I just add in fuel and protectors right at the end, right when I'm about to mix it into my diluted, right? So then I don't have to carry out these four bottles, I just carried in my maintenance bottle, put in 25 milliliters per gallon, and then drop in fuel

51:51 and protectors and now I got my leaf solution you know just for my bloom my maintenance solution because it's covered here then just add in a tiny bit of fuel a little bit of protectors some minerals and I'm good to go with my bloom you know um my fruit you know just same thing keep this concentrate and then just add a little bit of fuel a little bit of minerals a little bit of reproduction boom got my fruit so it um you know because if you're going to combine these don't put the protectors in them. I just, I really, um, just everything I know about it. It's like

52:26 those, those guys, um, they're really finicky. They're, you know, they're powerful. They're, they'd corrupt your solution, but they'd also themselves suffer from the solution and those concentrates. It's like, it's like putting little things with a bunch of salt and things. It really kind of, um, really kind of messes them up. Yeah. And the app, the app's fun. It's, it's easy. It's like, it's, you know, and even I use it all the time, right? I'm going to go dilute different things and I'm like, uh, and my mind, I forget. And it's like, uh, and then I'm like, oh yeah,

52:57 you know, it's this many milliliters. I'm like, okay, it gets me so much closer to do it. Um, yeah. Yeah. And so pre, pre-mixing, yeah. Pre-mixing. I mean, if you're going to use it a whole bunch, pre-mix it, right. I just, I just say, you know, just add the protectors, protectors at the end, right. You don't want that lactobacillus in there. And if you, if you do, I mean, it's not it's not the end of the world. It's just like I think in my mind, I would always think you would get higher performance by not having it in a solution of other concentrates for many months before I try to use it.

53:31 So that's that's what I'm thinking on those things. Yeah, thanks. Thanks. And thanks. Yeah, I do. I do. I do like teaching. um although sometimes it's it's it's kind of this thing for me of like I like it and then I'm like but um that's why I keep showing up every Sunday for this and I hope you're enjoying and all this and um it's good so um do have about 10 more minutes here and um because it's something I've been doing I may as well continue doing it and I think I will where is it it's this one and put this here like that and then I'll bring this down

54:16 can I bring that down bring it down like that and we will go continue to go over the Master Cho's recipes and his original thing so I hope you guys have been enjoying this series it's been sporadically in and out through the office hour basically you know maybe I should start with it But I end up typically end up ending with it. So if you check out the past few episodes, the endings of them, you'll always pretty much find that I was going over these this presentation. And I still yeah, Josh, I still do certification series at my farm.

54:59 I don't have any scheduled right now, but if you get in touch with me, if you want to do it, we can set something up, figure it out. Like, that's what I do. I have Airbnb. You can basically just stay here and do it. You know, my teaching, all that. It's like, you know, I, I just, the one, I just tell you one, one straight up issue is sometimes I put a class out and then nobody signs up and then I'm like, oh, and then sometimes I, you know, and then sometimes I do put a class out and tons of people sign up and it's like, and so if you,

55:28 if you really want this, come get it, man, here I am, like, come get it, you know? Um, so, you know because i just like i'm doing this every day like i just do it you know i don't always i'm not making all the solutions every day but if someone was here that was like really avid and wanted to learn it's like bro let's do the solutions right it's like it's like that's i think that's what i'm supposed to do and i will be i will be headed across the state of hawaii this year i got something uh planned for maui in march and i guess it's march already shit that's coming

55:59 up soon. Oops. Um, but it's coming up real soon of doing this. And, um, yeah, so I've been doing this. So yeah, it's worth staying on the fire. It's really beautiful. I mean, the two people that are staying here right now, I just was like, Hey, how's it going, man? He's like, this place is epic. I don't want to leave. And I'm like, well, if you got enough money, you can stay forever, you know, but, um, but yeah, just people love it here. It's so beautiful. it's so great um you know um so yeah anyway uh so gonna give it back to this recipes and uh so

56:31 today's one that we're getting into we finished up last week brown rice vinegar and the best way to contact me uh email just drake at pure knf or drake w at gmail either one gets to me or through the you know even this you can message me through i think youtube um you know my account like below down there, you click on it, you can message me. I'm pretty sure YouTube lets you send messages, whatever. However, you know, call me, I don't care, whatever. You know, knffarm.com, I think, lists all that stuff. So whatever, people very rarely call me. It's kind of funny when people

57:06 do call me. It's like, you know, I always think that's funny. It's like you put it out there. Yeah, no, it's all good, man. So lactic acid bacteria, the lab, the most powerful microbe in the Milky Way. So let's see what Master Cho has to say on it. Looks like it's a short presentation. Looks like we'll be able to cover that in these few minutes here. And let's get into it. Yeah, if you guys don't subscribe to Long Island Audit, you probably should. Lactic acid bacteria, how to make LAB. Looks like you take rice wash water, and then look at that

57:43 cute little microbe hello and this other guy you cover it with a paper and you put the pot in the shade and then 15 centimeters in depth even on a large pot is good for aeration in the liquid and then you end up with liquid with labs and for some reason there's rice bran on top i don't know where the rice bran came from here and liquid with labs it's um you know that's That to me seems pretty darn confusing. But the basic idea is that you're getting starchy water here, which is the whole reason to get rice wash water. You get that milky, starchy water. That's the starch.

58:25 Oh, you are too kind, bird. You are too kind. It's always nice to get a super chat, especially from the love. And the rice wash water is starchy water. So lactobacillus, it's not very rich starchy water, but it's just starchy enough that microbes will land in the starchy water and they will start to grow. If you leave this pot in the shade for five to seven days, you will get some nasty stuff growing besides just lactobacillus. And it depends on your temperature.

59:03 However, you know, like right now, you know, this time of year from for most folks in America or whatever, five to seven days would actually probably be appropriate. appropriate, but summertime, any other time, it's going to be way too long. I recommend about 24 to 36 hours, something about that to leave it out. And you will notice that this water will change, um, consistency. It'll, that smell will change. It'll start to smell a little bit like sourdough and all those things. Um, yeah, yeah, man. Flights are cheap right now. Come on, come on over. Um,

59:39 Yeah, and you mix that in, and basically you're catching the lactobacillus out of the air. They're all in the air. They're everywhere. That's the reason mammals are the dominant species on the planet, is the lactobacillus. And they land in the race wash water. So covering it with a paper, I do not cover it with a paper. And in fact, I put it in a shallow dish. So this is definitely counter to what Master Cho is saying. But then he's saying, here's kind of what it looks like when it finished. You know, you got the curds and the whey separated. So he's taking the stuff from here.

1:00:13 So this stuff, this liquid from this step, and he's adding that to milk at a ratio of 10 to 1. And then he's letting it sit, pour the milk with the LAS, lactic acid serum, maybe. And now it's went from LAB to LAS. After five to seven days, the fats will separate up to the top. the curds will rise the whey will stick at the bottom the whey is your lactobacillus and then he uses this same he kind of filters it out from the bottom which i don't i just pour it pour it off and separate the curds out with a filter and then he adds crude sugar which is very important

1:00:55 it's not molasses it's actually brown sugar and this is to super saturate it and keep it at keep it at room temperature, to keep it at room temperature. So I guess if you keep it in the fridge, you don't need to do that. So this is his step of pouring that in with the milk, 10 to 1, you get that. And how to use it, he's saying, you know, 0.3 concoction of LAS. I don't know how it got to LAS from LAB, but if you dilute it 0.3, you can put it in compost and you can put it on your plant leaves. It's actually typically usually 1 to 1,000. So I'm not sure how they got a 0.3

1:01:30 concoction here. But definitely in compost and livestock, you can put at 0.3. And if you're putting on plant leaves and you have a problem, 3% concentration sounds good. But if you don't have any problems, 3% concentration could probably be less than that because the lactic acid bacteria will eat more of your things and outcompete your IMO. So be careful on that. And then there, he's done. So that's, that's what you got from Master Cho for lactic acid bacteria. Um, you know, these, these four slides here and, um, five slides, but two of them were actually introduction and

1:02:10 thank you. So it was really just three slides on how to do it. Um, and I, you know, I encourage you get the book here because I also talk about the lactic acid bacteria and here's the recipe that I show folks on how to do is this one, you know, the KNF protectors, the lactic acid bacteria. And I say step one, put it into here, put it into a shallow dish, leave it out, go to step two, mix in with the milk, end up getting curds and whey separating like this. Then you add an equal volume of brown sugar and you stir that in really well. And that's how you get shelf stable

1:02:50 protection, you know, protection, and the most powerful microbe in the world. It's, it's essentially, you know, effective microorganisms for, you know, the cost of some rice wash water and some, some milk and stops food poisoning in an hour or less. Yep, absolutely. All these things. Um, and, um, you know, and I say use when protection is needed, like the police, they're effective, but expensive, be sure to pay them with food. So they don't rob you. Same with our police, right? You don't pay the police. They actually become the most well-funded, um, criminal organization.

1:03:33 Um, so just, you know, to keep them in the right place, you pay them well, meaning there's enough food around, they'll, they'll do really well for you. So that's basically, you know, my, my thing on it too. just one page there and um and of course when you look at this and you go back to the applications of here they are you know here's the protector column they're used in the bloom the leaf and the soil formula primarily those are when they're used and they really help you can also think of them as emergency workers they really help when things are emerging or you have a disaster

1:04:09 emergency. Either way, you have something emergent happening. Lactobacillus is your friend on that one. So yeah, so and there's tons I could talk about LAB all day. Sometimes I do, especially if you come here for a class, I just love to talk about lactobacillus and all that. It's just man, And that is like, it's one of my favorite things. And let's see here. So we'll finish up here where it says, Sadly, Indiana has been devastated by chemical ag. Eli Lilly's home base, national headquarters for future farmers of America. I have a neighbor who works for Bayer Dow Agro Ground Zero.

1:04:55 So, yeah, well, you know, I mean, I think those people, you know, I don't know, maybe in the very top echelons, they may be wicked. But I think vast majority of the people throughout those echelons are really good people trying to do their best for the world. And they're trying to just feed. And it's a really kind of impossible situation. And if you go to an ag school, they're just going to tell you about chemical ag and what to what to do. So it's you have to reach outside and be kind of like a outside the box hippie thinker. And it's it's always kind of a challenge to get out of that.

1:05:36 And then and then, you know, natural farming, it's I'm not offering people, you know, hundred thousand dollars salaries to to, you know, do research for me or do anything. So, you know, you go where the money's at, which is this large industrial ag. So it's this whole thing to dismantle this and to get back to the earth. But it really comes down to that as those people start to get more sick and dying because we've polluted our planet, they'll probably realize that Korean natural farming, all edible things, solutions like this are the way to go. But I think there are good people out there.

1:06:12 They just need to know that there's another solution, another paradigm. And a lot of people look at natural farming like it's a joke or whatever. Um, but the, but the few people that do try it, you know, are like, Whoa, this is amazing. And they realize, wow. And it also, it scales, it could scale to that and do the whole thing. So, um, yeah. And, and here, here's Mickey as a graduate of a big ag university program would definitely recommend KNF over any of that stuff. And she, you know, um, they think it'll find its way there eventually. And I think, I think it will. I really do think it will.

1:06:50 um you know it's to me it's scientifically checks out every way shape and form and it comes in and it's like it's as scientifically sound as anything and understanding biological agriculture and understanding like what i'm doing i mean we you know um when we were in korea we were able to talk to a major professor there at kong kuk university which is like a high level korean university and he was like well this is the stuff and you know you have to have someone good to teach you that would have the precision you can't just like you know throw stuff in a bucket and be

1:07:24 like oh it didn't work it's like you didn't do it right you gotta have like you know correct solutions in to get the correct product out and so a lot of people just you know they'll get i'm gonna study knf and they get some grant money and they just don't know what they're doing and they do some stuff and then then their paper is like knf didn't work and it's like it's almost as if they're being paid shills for the chemical ag industry or something, or I don't know, maybe those people have good hearts too. I mean, I always believe that somewhere deep inside

1:07:55 everyone, there's a, there's, there's goodness, right? Because God is, is amongst us all and within us and without us. And, um, you know, even though he's omnipresent or it, you know, is omnipresent, it's just like, sometimes it's like, I'm pretty sure we're in here right now, but so it is. But anyway, I could go on a whole rant on this, but if you really, if you do enjoy that topic and you do want to hear more on that, um, check out the microbial secret society podcast and check out the episode with feet, Felix Goble. And we talked all about that of

1:08:28 just the corruption of the ag universities and these things. So, um, yeah, yeah. So anyway, it's it's good i hope these things make it in there i hope we are able to change the world in a good way um i want to thank you guys for tuning in from all over the world and if you're here again last week i i you know ask for sincere forgiveness if you weren't here just pretend like everything's great and it continues to be because it will be um and i just want to thank you guys for tuning in making the world a better place we're a global group we really can make a huge

1:09:03 difference. Um, it's about doing it. It's about being that example. It's about showing people what you're doing. It's about, you know, whatever it is doing it right. So thank you for tuning in. Thanks for spreading the love. Thanks for sharing it. Thanks for being all great. Um, and I'll be back next week again. Um, you know, pretty much love doing this, love connecting with you guys. So please thank you. Um, I love you and, um, really, yeah, Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Aloha.