Fish & IMO Pasture Remediation, Dead Avocado Revival, Jadam Interview
Drake flies a drone around the farm to show pasture recovery. Patches remediated with buried fish plus IMO are lush and thick; untreated ground next to them is thin and weak. He's now applying about 25 gallons per acre, roughly 50 gallons total on a 1.7-acre section. A rain-and-manure catch tank off the milking barn roof feeds a 2-inch pipe that drenches the pasture below. Dairy cow Julie is rotated through banana-patch paddocks, and bananas are slowly recovering from bunchy top. On a stand of avocados marked for removal, Drake explains the trees are starving for oxygen because they were planted with amendments packed into the hole with no airspace; digging out and opening airspace is bringing them back instead of cutting them down.
Viewer questions: a transplanted gold globe squash that slumped over came back after a calcium and foliar spray. Heavy rain is generally good for crops, but fruiting tomatoes can get overmoistened, so keeping calcium up helps prevent splitting. On fencing, Drake runs a 10-mile electric fence controller with posts every 15-20 feet and two hot lines for internal paddocks, keeping only the farm's perimeter in metal. Painting the plastic fence tape helps protect it from UV so it lasts longer.
The back half covers Pure KNF Foundation member content — new micro-documentaries including John Caverly — then returns to the Jadam recipe book (slide 25-26) before playing an interview with Sung Seol Yoon (Ray) of Jadam. Ray explains Hawaiʻi's mix of traditional, plantation, and chemical farming mirrors problems seen worldwide, and that natural farming beats chemical agriculture on cost, environmental impact, and yield because farmers make their own inputs from manure, leaf mold, rock dust, and urine — buying only sulfur, caustic soda, and caustic potash for soap-based inputs. He also covers why conventional farmers struggle to switch to certified organic, and points listeners to jadam.kr (en.jadam.kr in English) where all the information is posted free.
Questions answered
- 12:37 How do you fix an overgrazed, patchy pasture? — Bury fish and apply IMO across the ground; treated patches green up fast while untreated spots next to them stay thin.
- 17:41 Can a dying avocado tree be brought back instead of cut down? — Yes — dig out the amendments packed into the planting hole and open airspace so roots get oxygen; leaf drop is usually an oxygen problem.
- 19:55 What do you do with roof runoff and manure from the milking barn? — It collects in a catch tank, then runs out a 2-inch pipe to drench the pasture below whenever the tank fills.
- 32:56 A transplanted gold globe squash wilted, and is heavy rain bad for tomatoes? — A calcium and foliar spray revived the wilted squash; rain is usually fine, but fruiting tomatoes need calcium kept up or they can split.
- 33:41 Is there video of the drone sprayer in action? — Some clips exist on the channel, but Drake can't safely film while he's flying it himself.
- 34:28 What kind of fence keeps the cattle in? — Plain electric fencing — a 10-mile fence controller, posts every 15-20 feet, and two hot lines strung between them.
- 42:14 Does painting electric fence tape help it last longer? — Yes, covering the plastic tape with paint protects it from sun damage and extends its life.
- 49:44 Why does Hawaiʻi matter so much for natural farming worldwide? — Hawaiʻi has traditional farming, plantation history, and heavy chemical use all in one place, so it mirrors agricultural problems seen across the globe.
- 53:02 What's the biggest difference between natural farming and conventional chemical farming? — It's environmentally friendly, very low cost since farmers make their own inputs, and still effective with strong roots and high yield.
- 54:41 Do you have to buy any inputs, or can farmers make everything themselves? — Almost everything comes free from on-farm materials like manure and rock dust; only sulfur, caustic soda, and caustic potash for soap are bought.
- 57:02 Why do conventional farmers struggle to switch to organic? — Certified organic inputs cost more than chemicals, the methods are hard to learn and labor-heavy, and yields often drop before it pays off.
- 1:03:33 Where can farmers find Jadam's information for free? — It's all posted at jadam.kr, with en.jadam.kr for the English site, and new videos go up most Sundays.
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In this episode
- 0:00 Welcome and I Ching: Pi hexagram
- 7:07 KNF recipe book back in stock
- 10:15 Farm drone tour begins
- 12:37 Remediating pasture with fish and IMO
- 17:41 Reviving dead avocado trees
- 19:55 Manure and rain catch tank for drenching
- 24:52 Rotational grazing the banana patch
- 32:56 Gold globe squash, calcium, and rain on tomatoes
- 34:28 Electric fencing setup for cattle
- 35:21 Pure KNF Foundation member documentaries
- 41:26 Metal perimeter vs electric interior fencing
- 43:02 Jadam recipe book, slide 25
- 49:44 Ray (Sung Seol Yoon) Jadam interview begins
- 53:02 Natural farming vs chemical farming
- 57:02 Why organic farmers struggle to switch
- 1:03:33 Where to find Jadam resources for free
- 1:06:58 Sign-off, join Pure KNF for full video
Transcript
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1:30 Hey, oha, good morning. Welcome to the Office Hours. brought to you by Peter K&F Foundation and reviewing Master Cho's Wizardry. Mastery, all those good things out there. Doing what it takes to bring life to this world. Wisdom, mastery, all these good things.
2:17 So thanks for being here. I got an hour. You can ask anything. And then I got a few things to share. So we'll get into that. Sup, Kristoff. Good to see you, man. Glad we're just going over our membership stuff. We just had a pure KNF board meeting yesterday. So thankful for all our members. Cecily, what's up? And Robert G. Mendocino in the house. Yo, I got a Humboldt hat on. No, I think exactly the same, but, you know, always enjoy going on the Aloha tour out there. Even though it's a lot of work. A lot of work. But always fun to meet people, cruise around, see what's going on.
3:01 You know, spreading the good word. Yeah. Yeah, if you're in Mendocino, you should check out the Fry family. Tyler, Felicia, those guys. They're doing some good work there in the, I think it's the Grass Valley, Antelope Valley, something. One of those valleys. So today, today, today, today, it's Pi. Pi is grace inside the strength of simplicity and self-knowledge, outside the beauty of acceptance and gentleness. This hexagram encourages you to cultivate grace in your relationships and in your general way of being.
3:52 In this way, you gain a power greater than any other to open a way through obstructions in your dealings with others. Good fortune is yours if you concentrate on bringing more grace and thoughts to your actions now. It is in human nature to want to use forceful ways to try to get what we want from others. And from life. our egos encourage us to act aggressively to speak boldly to intimidate others to buffalo our way through difficult situations this false power can be momentarily satisfying to our ego
4:38 and temporary victories can be won in this way but genuine power and lasting progress come from a different strength altogether. They come from inner strength, which is characterized by steadfast devotion to the principles of humility, simplicity, equanimity, and acceptance. By gradually letting go of the vain bullying energy of the ego and accepting the quiet guidance of the higher power, one acquires the substance that makes ongoing good fortune a possibility.
5:28 This is a time to relinquish self-important maneuvering. Instead, return to stillness and contemplate the inherent wisdom of the principles of the sage. By practicing quiet strength within and gentle acceptance without, you acquire a grace that dissolves all barriers to progress. Well, isn't that nice? Yeah, well, what's up? We got Stone Mason in the house. Yo, Indiana. Got it right this time, I know it. And to put that in the brain and screw it down tight, make sure I didn't forget.
6:17 Yeah, so, yeah. It's always nice when you get a good reading. You know, sometimes life is in your favor. Other times it is absolutely not. But that's just the life. Cheers, drink some milk with y'all yeah oh oh milk a cow every day it's definitely uh it's definitely worth it some a2a2 brown uh guernsey cow there getting the goods um so so so my brazilian esteemed colleague asked for some farm updates. So this little SD card coming out of this little Mavic Mini here.
7:07 It's actually not a Mavic Mini. It's a Mavic Pro. What is it? Is it a Mavic Pro? I think it's just a Mavic, to be honest. This Mavic, DJI Mavic. So we'll put this in here. hopefully it doesn't short out put that in there and we'll get to some farm updates here and see what's going on oh and meantime also want to let you know that if you go to knfsupport.com let's see here bring this thing over like that if you go knfsupport.com
7:53 Not only do you get a great question and answer service, I still haven't answered this question about pH meters. Although, thanks. Somebody answered this. Was it Goofman? I bet it was Goofman. He's always on it. Yeah, the goof. Yeah, cool. Thanks, Goof. You're awesome. Yeah. I'll have to compliment that. so um yeah and i'll answer this one here maybe today but uh if you point is if you go to knfs support.com not only is it brought to you by pure canon foundation also if you click here and go to the recipe book um there are some recipe books in stock so if you wanted a hard copy mailed to you
8:42 that is possible and i have one idea i was trying to mail it out yesterday i was unable to make it the post office while they're open so it's hard to mail things on the weekend but I will mail that out Monday and so there are hard copies in stock which is kind of rare I don't often have hard copies in stock because it's a whole lot of work for me to go and print the labels and send them and go I mean it's not that much work but it's like more than I'm usually willing to do so but there are right now there's I think there's like 20 of them in stock so 19 at this point because
9:19 one got purchased yesterday or excuse me it got purchased I think a Friday I don't know anyway it takes me a while to get all this stuff together but I within a couple days it is on its way to you and thanks to the United States Postal Office so if you are interested in a hard copy of the book those are in stock right now and it's even though this one says it's the 22 you actually getting that January 24 edition. So brand new for this year, getting that. So, um, so yeah, that's, that's that. And that's those things. And let's, uh, let's go over here and pull up this here and
10:07 here. I think this was yesterday. So pull this up on this side and get this to fit on the screen. So do a little bit of farm updates. So farm updates. um so well i'll just yeah i guess i'll leave this right about there let's make it i don't know if you can see maybe i'll just i'll zoom in here move this out of the way and um so farm updates right here if you look right in my front yard you see that that right there that is a cow and so i this
10:52 is this is basically right out that direction right out front of me I'm just right outside the office if you've been here you know you know where this is this is a big fiti um ulu tree here this is a ma'afala ulu tree breadfruit and this is a jackfruit a black gold jackfruit and if you look at this yard let me make this like that if you look at this yard right here you will see it has just been grazed down. So summertime the grass is growing fast. It is amazing. And so I just grazed all five of my black angus slash wagyu beef through the yard.
11:37 You know they kind of like this short yard grass. They do a great job of kind of vacuuming it up. and today today they're going to move out of this little paddock right here this is right along the driveway they're going to move this direction over here and go into the other part of the yard and then eventually keep moving that direction and go down into the valley and eat all the grass that's growing down there which you probably see as we play this video so and then this this bamboo over here this is a great place to set an IMO box amazing bamboo great collections under this tree
12:12 amazing. So small farm update doing that, but let's watch and see. So I did fly the drone. I think that video is playing here. We'll see. It kind of fly it on the same autopilot course that it goes on. So my neighbors over here have finished growing sweet potatoes. Good time to shoot pigs down to about 400 meters. My other neighbor, this is what we call screaming cow ranch over here. This is a cattle aggregation thing. They bring all these cows. It is in full, let me see, can I pause it? Yeah. It's in full operation right now. Screaming cow ranch is going.
12:49 They recently built a house over here. And then right here, this is a multimillion dollar kava operation that they're starting that I don't know what the status of that is, whether they're doing well or not. I don't know, but we have been this pasture right here. This is, This is our land right here. The land we take care of, I guess, is a better way of saying it. But we've been remediating this pasture with IMO and fish recently. So as we start to fly over, you can see where we dropped fish, these kind of patches, and then fish and IMO to keep the smell down.
13:30 And this pasture, compare this one here and the lushness. This is the result of IMOs plus fish. You can see the nice growingness of it. So we, you know, on a semi-weekly basis, put this over here, we've been working on this, but look at that versus this middle field. This pasture right here, we'll pause right there. This middle field, we have not, I haven't done very much remediation because my neighbor was complaining about the fish. but this water system over here fully functional has a water coming over from the across the
14:09 valleys from our houses to the left from this yeah and um but this pasture you know it needs a little bit more remediation this one has elephant grass growing in it a little bit uh but basically graze that over graze that and then if you look at this pasture right here we'll pause it right there. So we started to do a little fish IMOs here and it started to remediate, but then my neighbor was complaining about the smell because I didn't put enough IMOs on it. And then I don't know if you can see, but just this over here is so weak. The grass is just like, oh man,
14:46 it's not growing. I haven't done enough IMO over here, enough stuff. And this grass part of the pasture is just like not coming to life. So I moved that herd of five cows through and my neighbor looks like he cut these and he also dug out his dead fruit trees his fruit trees he just planted them in this grass and expected them to grow and he has an excavator so he just cut them out so I don't know exactly what he's doing there's his excavator nice little mini x he let my dad borrow that thing and he's putting in these fence posts I don't know what he's doing but maybe he's
15:19 gonna start grazing this I don't know but um I'm not exactly sure what he's up to maybe yeah I think maybe he's gonna put fence along this and graze cattle into here maybe i don't know he's also you got his pool he's built a whole bunch you got this whole like thing of stuff this guy just he likes putting stuff but turning the corner oh and my other neighbors let's see my other neighbors up the hill i don't know if this is like farm update for me let's go back a frame can we oh it's so hard. Can I go? Oh yeah, I can go with the keyboard. Okay. That's easier. These guys,
15:58 this is like, uh, um, these guys are some New York billionaires doing some, uh, you know, moving to Hawaii and changing Hawaii, but they're building this barn up here, uh, for them. And they've been working on this for a couple of years now and they got this barn coming in. So my upper neighbors, they, they run a bunch of sheep in this area, sheep and cattle. And then they, they just built this barn so as we turn the corner uh let's see looking down so you can see this field here this uh this i call this the kitchen pasture uh basically um i run uh
16:36 electric fence out in these kind of i divide this field into eight parts and this part right here i did not graze this time because it was easier to get the cows out of the fence without running them this quadrant here but you can see I kind of run the fence and then they'll eat this down really nice and then come in with the drone and spray it and keep it all nice and growing back really well and I try and keep a water in the center so that that way all these fields can be serviced by this eventually I'm going to build a little shed like this one here and put that in but I just you know
17:11 time is money and money is time and lacking a little bit of both so um if you want a super chat amazing that'd be fun um i was reading this book that says you have to ask for what you want so you know um but doing that running the cattle just ran the cattle through this most recently before i moved them down into the yard coming around on this field here this pasture this little segment here with this ulu tree here and this gliris cydia and this banana i have not uh grazed this recently i was going to move the cows over to here and graze this but i did i just
17:46 I mean it's the grass is growing so fast in summer I figured I'll move them down there in this here my dad's pineapples are firing this is a combo of burying some fish and putting the IMOs in and these and drone spraying them and man they are just fire these avocado trees in the back this was that we we were going to cut them down and then I was like yeah we should probably do an experiment just to bring them back to life. So can you bring back dead avocado trees? And this is an example of when you put a bunch of amendments in a hole, plant a tree, and then expect it to
18:26 grow well. You really need to amend out and create airspace. And they've been defoliated from a number of different things. But one of the main defoliation things is they're lacking oxygen. without oxygen the plant drops its leaves and cannot do it so um but the other fruit trees here this um these two lychee's just finished fruiting got a ton of fruit off those this tangelo is flowering and fruiting this orange tree is just kind of in its growth phase right now this puakene kene is firing flowers um and the mac nut over here is just loaded with mac nuts
19:06 and the cinnamon is just, you know, it's full of cinnamon, guys. But I don't know if you can see a juxtaposition between my pastures kind of coming back to life, the amount of grass here versus my neighbor that lets the cows just graze everywhere. I don't, you know, I don't know if my neighbor ever tunes into this or watches it. I don't mean to hate on them too much. It's just interesting to see a juxtaposition of knowing what you're doing versus having no idea what you're doing. and so he's just continually over grazing this and as we fly over maybe you can see the difference
19:41 of what's happening to his pasture here where it's just being grazed down versus our pastures here which are coming back to life and I set this tank up a couple actually like a month or two ago now this point but the idea is to catch water off this roof to put water into here and then use this as a JMS slash manure tank and take our manure. This is where we milk each day. So the milking stanchion here and to take this and basically when it's raining, this will fill up in like a day or two and then run two inch pipe down to drain into this field and put just more nutrients
20:22 and microbes and all those kinds of leaf fertilizers and microorganisms out into this field in a very easy, lazy way, where basically this fills and then I can run it out into this pasture and ease that up. But this is the road here. It's the road I drive up every day to go visit my pigs and chickens over here. But this grass here, our dairy cow here, Julie, doing pretty darn well, I think. I think this grass here is just so lush compared to what it was a few years ago. If I juxtaposition that, it's doing really well. So this gate here,
21:04 this little gate, I don't know if you can even see it. No, it's off the screen. Can you see it? I don't know. There's a little gate right here. Let me see if I can zoom in on that. This little gate right there. I just had to replace that. That just snapped. The pole snapped. it hangs a gate on it you know but just natural farm stuff you got to do but look the grass is getting lush and coming back to life and we're doing a huge um you know about a eight to twelve paddocks here yes thank you super chats woo yeah woo thank you thank you thank you um so just you
21:41 know this grass coming back to life this is a combo of i've increased the amount i'm playing i'm now applying 25 gallons per acre here. So this is just about 1.7 acres, something like that. So it's about roughly about 50 gallons that has to go in this area. And then the bananas over here doing fairly well. Somewhat recovering from the bunchy top. You know, it's really interesting. These ones really recovered. Some of these didn't at all. I just wasn't taking care of them well enough to really combat the virus but we also just recently as a family project my wife
22:18 my dad and I we cleared around the barn so this barn was getting pretty overgrown so to say and or like fallow and rusted and really microbially rich but we just cleared out a whole bunch around the barn. And now we're planting this plant called pele, bele, whatever. I don't know. It's the wrinkly leaf tree spinach. And the chickens that are right in this sector right here, they love it. So I'm going to focus more on chickens. My pig, who you can't see here because he now lives in Kau. I traded to my friend in Kau for nothing. I just, I wanted to give him a pig,
22:58 help him out. My, my amazing boar. He's, he's so nice. Papa Lalo. I don't know if you've met him. He's, he's just, oh, he's such a wonderful pig. Had a hard time getting rid of him. It took me several months to almost a half a year, a year to get rid of him. Cause I just, I loved him so much. It's just hard for me to let go of him. But finally I did. And my friends are happy. I think he's, he's, um, putting protein injections into their pigs, which should help their fertility. you know you all need protein to to get pregnant um and then this right here if you look right here
23:30 this is some elder elderberry flowering in with the bananas and this is a deep pit that's now been covered over it's filled with a fence and all just kind of random farm shit that accumulates if you've ever had a farm you know you got a pit of stuff somewhere and this is ours um but cruising around looking at this bananas look pretty healthy i don't know why the drone panned up but my neighbor just mowing. This is standard what you do. You just mow for no reason because you don't, you hate the earth and you're just making it less fertile, right? I don't know. Maybe people like it.
24:02 Maybe they feel good about mowing things, but I don't know what they're doing. Um, but pan out a little bit. Okay. The drone came back. Maybe it was just missing its signal. Water tank coming out here. I think that's been there a long time. That's been good. I've been trying to keep the roof clean. I really need to, you know, pay someone to power wash this and paint it. So again, those super chats, you know, they're going towards keeping my farm alive to send. And then this sector down here, this part of the banana patch, I've stopped mowing it. And I've
24:33 basically, we moved Julie, the dairy cow into here. And so we run, we just ran her through this section, this section, and then this section. And she's just been grazing. And this grass in here has been really fertile because it's, we've been just letting it grow. And, uh, so she really enjoys that. She mows, keeps all the grass out of the bananas. Um, and, um, you know, so, so extending my pat, my dairy paddock besides just this field into this field as well has been super helpful. Plus keeping all the grass down, it's just, you know, why mow when you can graze,
25:11 uh, I mean, in rotationally graze and enrich the land and make it all better. It's like, I, I, you know, I'm sold on that. It's something I'm going to do for the rest of my life. The jungle out here, not much going on besides fire ants. Um, I have been working down at the river a whole lot on a, um, sustainable energy project, but the bananas, you know, for the most part, been able to keep the bungee top at bay. If not, you know, stop it from spreading. Um, they're doing well it's you know pasture I think you know I just I literally haven't been out there
25:46 to harvest the bananas um I harvest the ones that are near here but just the fire ants and all that just kills me the river nice down there it's flowing it's nice it's summer it's a little bit down but consistent you can see here maybe a little bit better of our pasture just the richness coming in all the spots are where we drop fish and put microbes heavily over time um my dairy cow doing really well you know we just extend that pasture out you can see it right here we just basically come off this and put these these pie slices out here and extend her so we can get her
26:25 to the milking barn fairly easily got a water system that drench tank i'm talking about so if you can see from this angle that drench tank getting the water off this roof and then i can run it all out into this field where it's a huge field. I mean, it's, it's big. And so being able to bring the richness and just spread more microbes, more manures, more nutrients out here in a way that, you know, I'm not going to toxify the land by overmanuring it, but I'm going to bring it to life by just adding, you know, um, the right stuff out there. But I just think,
26:58 you know, in the couple of years since basically 2020, 2021, somewhere in there, we really started focusing on rotational grazing and then getting a cow, you know, a dairy cow in 2022. I don't know, I've been doing that for quite some time. It's been great and it's just, it's enough to sustain her. We still supplement her a bit with a bit of alfalfa, but most of the nutrition coming as we improve our pasture, coming off our pasture alone. And then right here, I don't know if you can see your drench tank. This is what I get the water to fill up to then fly the drone from this location
27:35 right here to fly these fields over here. And then panning across my parents' zone, what they got going. You know, this area kind of abandoned right now, letting it go fallow, but still a lot of pineapples in there. The fruit trees coming down. I hate this palm tree right here. I'm going to cut this thing down, eat its heart. Um, but the taro, the pineapples all here, um, coconuts really kicking butt, um, you know, a combination of the fish plus the IMOs out there on them, this ulu tree in full form doing its thing. These bananas right down here, recovering from bunchy top doing their
28:14 thing. Um, you know, flying over to my place, my neighbor just did his, um, what you call, um, just tilled this whole thing and it's going to let it go follow again for a couple years. Our garage coming over to the drone storage area. This area I'm about to graze. So the cows just went here, here, here, here. You can see their turds out there. If you look carefully, you can zoom in on their turds. Look at those turds. They just crapped all over this yard, which is great because it you know otherwise it's just a yard but but they just ate all this down you can see
28:55 them eating this grass versus I'm about to move them right into this today they're going to go into this yard this lawn right here and then after I'm probably going to leave them there about three days it takes them about three days to eat all this down to where it looks like you just mowed it besides that they don't need everything but they you know 99 of it and then I'm going to move them into this paddock here take care of all this grass and then after that then I'm going to move them into this area here and then I'll move them down into this area here and then I will move them
29:30 into this valley and kind of put a fence through here up like that and along there and let them eat out all the grass and everything in there and just you know recycle the nutrients around but coming around. This is where, you know, when you come for to the KNF farm to do training, you get to stay in one of these nice cottages back here, enjoy the kitchen, kick it on the couches, have a good time. You know, some sugar cane down here. You can juice some sugar cane, sugar cane press here going around. But the grass is just, it's amazing. I've been really focused on the cattle.
30:06 I still have my permaculture garden here slash whatever it is. I'm growing more taro in this region recently. Been wanting to do that. Got some jackfruits, lilykois there. Coming around, looking at that. Nice. These fruit trees, we just got a bunch of light cheese off this. This grass, look how tall it is though. It's ready to be grazed. Move the cow into here. And look at these Inga beans. They are just huge. So nitrogen fixing, what do they call it? Ice green bean, inga bean. I need to cut them down and chip them really is what it comes down to.
30:46 They're getting too big. But again, a little bit more elderberry here that's just firing off. It throws out so many berries and all that. So yeah, so that's, you know, it's Surinam cherries over here. We're just firing the mulberry tree we got in our front yard, just tons of mulberries. um what else i don't i don't know you know oh i'm also gonna if you see this this is another uh 275 gallon tank right here in front of my 10 000 gallon water tank gonna gonna set that up to do a little bit of either drone refill slash drench fill down you know drench flooding down here
31:26 all that um but basically farm farm's been doing good you know sometimes i feel better about it Sometimes I feel worse about it, you know, trying my best to keep things going, spread microbes, build fertility, build the land back, you know, it's been abused for so long and just trying to, um, you know, bring back life. It takes a long time to heal damaged land. It can be faster with Korean natural farming, but you got to have methods that are simple, quick, easy, affordable that you can put out, you can do, especially when you're doing, um, you know, large acreage like this.
32:02 I mean as if you know someone's like I do 10,000 acres that ain't big but I tell you what you know for just um fairly non-mechanized and what we're doing and it's kind of part-time thing it's not like my full-time deal I you know I do a lot of other things so um so yeah so that's you know farm update that's what we've been doing you know just sort of an overview with the drone um and uh yeah been uh been doing that so hopefully that that satisfies that craving of seeing what's what's happening here um let's see got some questions here thanks for the super chat again
32:44 that's just you know farming ain't cheap and i know you know doing it and sharing it together and inspiring each other making it work thank you appreciate it um and big west translate transplanted some gold globes. And let's see, three days later, one of them is slumped over, sprayed it with calcium and BRV. Everything stood up and prayed. We'll see how it recovers. Yeah, you know, KNF can bring dead crops back to life, things you thought were out of balance. It's so absorbable, it goes in, hopefully, you know, you can bring them back to life. So
33:24 and pounding rain is actually fairly good for crops not necessarily tomatoes while they're fruiting can get overmoistered but you know as long as you're putting lab out there you shouldn't have too many problems and as long as you're playing reproduction you know the calciums to keep it from splitting you know you can handle a lot of diverse weather conditions so um yeah get those tomatoes out there drone sprayer video cool to see that in action um there there is some on the channel um i just it's hard for me to film while i'm flying it's it's not it's
34:03 not safe so um but other people have taken some video and that's they don't share it back with me so whatever um what's up we got mark coming in from oregon how are you bergerin um grass is wonderful. But who wants to mow that? Yeah, graze it, graze it up. So yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. Mark and I moved that water tank over. Yeah, that was fun. Yeah, yeah. Good. So cool. Invisible fence for cows. Have you ever heard of invisible fencing? No, I use electric fencing. I use a 10 mile fence controller and that's what I do. It's fairly easy. I just stick poles in the ground every 15-20
34:52 feet and I just run the electric line two lines across and it does everything I need and it's pretty amazing. I roll them back up on extension cord things. They're extension cord rollers, which they're great, but they age in the sun. They only last about a year or two years before have to replace them. I probably should buy more hardcore stuff from premier one only if they would sponsor me though. Um, I've got to work on those sponsorships and, uh, anyway, hopefully you enjoyed that. Um, I also, you know, I've been digging around, uh, I don't know. I kind of mentioned
35:35 it to the, um, to the members of the peer KNF foundation, but I've been digging around here and I found all these interviews here. So, um, and we got Alika, David Wong, Joe McGinn, James Simpliciano, Hogan, Ginger John, Kiai, Kim Chang, Mike and Liz, Mike DuPont, Ray, Sam Small, Simon Russell, and the Trump. Um, we got all those folks that I found all these interviews and you know them this was filmed at a um the first time we brought young song cho to the big island and i rented out a whole um a whole auditorium i rented out a auditorium that could
36:20 hold about 10 000 people if you look at it here let's see if i can bring uh let's see how should i do this i'll just bring this window over so right like that so i rented out this whole auditorium for people. We could seat like 10,000 people or something. Let's turn the volume off on that. How do I mute this? Oh no, I'm soloing those. I want to mute it. Anyway, let's see. I just go to, well, anyway, just, you know, this was the first time we brought them. We had them down on a basketball court. Let's see if we can, we can show it from this side, this, this clip here.
37:04 We just had Choke Plenty people come out, you know, brought Young Song into America, thanks to Dr. Park and what we're doing. But look at all those people tuning into his lecture. We got the beautiful Steve Lund right here in the front. Shout out to Steve Lund. What's up, Virgin? We got Uncle David Fertes there. Yeah, some good folks, some really good folks in this crowd. Lou and Karen here. and YWAM folks in the back. Everybody's sitting on these hard benches trying to learn. Yeah, so anyway, been sharing that footage
37:50 with members of the Pure KNF Foundation. So if you're not a member, consider it. It's well worth it. But let's see here. If I go back on this thing and go here, you know, your KNF foundation here. If you're not a member, you should be pureknf.org. Sign up now. It's well worth it. And also, just so you know, I think we're going to drop an email about this. But in terms of the micro documentaries here, there is now John Caverly available. So John talking about his experience from those interviews that I put him up.
38:30 I got this together for everybody so you can see the wonderful John Caverly talking about how it's brought so much value to him. So continuing to make micro documentaries for our members, that's something we want to do in addition to our monthly meetings, which is just like so much more information coming from folks, so much more than just me kind of rambling at you. but people that are really in the thick of it doing it right and loving it. And so, so grateful for our members. It's really, you make it happen. And, um, you know, all these
39:04 other documentaries you can watch as well. Cab Baber on his EM stuff, this dude, fricking legend right here. And, uh, if you're into growing herb, we got KNF ganja with Reverend Logan Silsley, you know, just what an epic, uh, documentary that was and what a great time hanging out with him. and Mike DuPont talking about the no smell pigs and Moose and Mimi talking about how they completely eliminated the disease in their kava operation orchard. You know, um, this is just, you know, what could be more inspiring than this stuff? So, um, yeah, so those, you know,
39:40 those things coming out for members, doing those things, getting those together. Let's see here. um what else do you got you know all this so i i may throw together this lecture for you as well put put this up so you get some yit madadge not just from me but from the man himself mr vodka i mean young sung cho um and um and then also with that that was where we were kind of going over the, um, where is it in the bin? Let's see. Let's go up. Let's go up. Also our hands-on that we had, this is how I found all this stuff I was looking. Cause I knew we had this stuff recorded
40:20 where we did a whole lot of, um, hands-on thing of having, you know, young song. Let's see. Where is it? Oh, there's me. Look at me. I'm up there. I'm talking to folks. Facilitating. Facilitating. Introducing them, making it happen, doing this stuff. But yeah, who else we got? But hands on, you know, here's, is there a clip of it? There gotta be somewhere. I don't know. Never demonstrate anything is the key, right? Oh, here we go. This is it. right here, demonstrating, you know, doing some hands-on stuff, stirring some sulfur,
41:06 making some soap, having live experiments happening. Oh, there's me again. Is that me? Where's that? Where's me? Oh, there's, there's me filming it from the back. Yep. As always, hanging out in the back, filming, doing, getting my own perspective, even though we hired some professionals to film from this angle and they did a heck of a lot better job. you know so anyway um there's me there's me filming yeah ipad those were the days before you know um anyway um yeah big west liked watching the reverend yeah okay so
41:50 yeah so yeah so anyway on my farm all the all the outside fences all the outside fences are metal because my perimeter is metal but all my internal fencing is just electric fence it doesn't make sense to fence your inside with metal it's just too expensive plus it's easy to throw up the electric and take it down and then graze where you want set up custom fences all those things. Yeah. Painting your electrical tape for fencing. Oh, um, yeah, yeah, yeah. Painting, yeah. Covering, covering plastic with paint probably makes sense to keep it alive
42:36 and going for sure. So thanks for that. So, um, so I don't know if there's any other questions, We're going through the Madag. We're getting up to that. It might be worth it. It might be worth it today to go through and watch this interview here. I've never watched this. I don't know what Ray's going to say. Is it going to be cool? I don't know. It might be worth it. Let's see. What should I do? I should pop this out. Let's see. Yeah, let me pop this window out. Can I just pop it out? come on there we go and then we'll see here we'll transition over this maybe we'll just watch one of
43:17 these and see what he has to say for a little bit I don't know how long is this 16 minutes that'll take up the rest of our time we could do that and or we could continue to go over the um madadge recipes here I was going through this madadge presentation we're on slide 25 of learning about my dadge. And basically this is a quick overview of their book. I think this is the top half and this is the bottom half of that book. And, uh, you know, learning how he learned from Master Cho and all this, this is what we went over last week. We can do either. I probably, yeah, maybe we'll do
43:57 either. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe we'll just beat Medicare together. Um, let's see here. so we were on slide 25 ask nature about microorganisms what do you want to get into make a vote drop a comment a like a subscribe do your thing right um either way it's a medaggy type of day you know we're getting into the medag um but Ray Ray has been influential in the whole medag movement because it would not be in English without him At least it would be not very good translation in English without him. He's the main man. And then he got later thrown under the bus for various things.
44:43 It's a Korean drama. We love it. But yeah, we'll just stick with this. This is what's up. No one's voting live. I don't know. Maybe we're all just watching it through some other way or whatever. But we'll just go through the medag. We'll finish this up. Maybe by live request or Ray. Okay, Ray. You want Ray? It's spelled R-E-I, Ray. um um watch ray okay i definitely know watching ray would be easier for me because i just gotta hit play on something versus this i gotta like comment and make talk some crap you know just
45:18 take it bro take it um this must be the korean way to say take it i can't i used to be able to read hungoo and i just i lost that ability because i didn't practice it um who can read hungoo um yeah well since we got one vote for ray that's more than more than my vote and talking about this we know we'll go through one slide that way we'll do both we'll just go to slide 26 because that sounds good to me so ask nature about the secret of optimal fertility yeah okay we'll watch ray we got two votes for ray we'll go through one slide here that way we can say we did both
45:54 so ask nature about the secret of optimum fertility so you know submit your emails to nature at earth.com and ask about optimum fertility. All your crop residues should be given back to the soil, right? That's just what happens, right? Tree grows in the forest, it falls in the forest, it feeds the forest, right? Where does the extra energy come from? From the sun, right? Carbon comes in, carbon goes into the soil, feeds the microbes, does the thing. Oh, so you got to go back to the beginning, bro. I did the whole half hour first for you.
46:29 you got to go back to the beginning but I'm glad you're here brethren did the whole first half hour for you so thanks for that request it was good to see the farm did an overview from the sky um yeah so um so you know that's just what happens right so if you ask nature I think he's just saying copy nature right and that's the way it works things grow they fall they go they go back to the earth, right? Back to the soils. And they just rot. They just ferment, they rot, they putrefy, and it gets recycled, reused, all the great things, regurgitated. So add extra nutrients by
47:12 providing the soil with wild grass and minerals, right? So that's what's happening out there. And, you know, you can accumulate certain areas by grabbing more nutrients from one area. you can and can add it to your other area right so harvest one area feed the other area it's just copying what nature is doing but making it a bit more concentrated and um wild grass and minerals right bring the seawater back up because it's flown from the earth into the ocean or from the soil into the ocean bring it back up he says in nature leaves fall under the tree grass dies where
47:48 its sprouts follow nature follow that must be the hungoo way of saying follow follow i wish i could read the hungoo i should probably learn that again at one point i thought i'm gonna learn korean so i can talk to master cho and then i was like you know maybe i'm not probably not gonna do that um but it would be cool right that you know the classic joke what do you call someone that speaks three languages trilingual what do you call someone that speaks two language bilingual what do you call someone that speaks one language american
48:22 okay yeah my own joke okay it's not my own joke i read that somewhere else so america um but follow nature right follow nature that's what jadam means it means hippie nature follower um it's not an acronym as much as people think it is it just means that you follow people that follow nature so jadam maybe that even says jadam i don't know um but um so anyway yeah this makes sense right you're just doing what it what happens out there so without further ado without further ado and maybe a bit of overtime let's get to the star of today's show mr yun mr
49:03 Sung Seol Yoon. Sung Seol Yoon. And why not just go full full screen because you don't need to see me. I don't need to be in here. How do I go to the, yeah, there we go. This one. We'll transition this over and we'll just go full full screen. Why not? Why not? Oh, will it not? Okay, there we go. We'll just make them full full screen. and we'll go see what Ray has to say okay ready ready ready let's go okay so yeah you can talk to me so you know you can ask me
49:49 yeah there's so much but we'll try and keep it straight forward not too much detail One of the things that was said several times in the workshop was that Hawaii is experiencing all of the different problems that are experienced across the entire globe. That makes Hawaii a very important place. Yes, yes. If you could speak to that. Yeah, from the limited amount of time we had,
50:36 and we tried to look into how farming was done in Hawaii and how it had been done in the past, and we found that it had a history of traditional farming, and it also had the history of plantation, and then it's got a few commercial crops, and now there are a lot of seed companies operating here. And all these kind of diverse activities contributed to the development of agriculture, but it also brought in the problems of agriculture as well. By that, which we mean that the practice of conventional chemical agriculture has used too much chemicals on this land,
51:23 so that the pesticides, herbicides, and the chemical fertilizers that were used have contaminated the soil for a very long time. So we are looking at the question of pollution, and also when we say that Hawaii has got all kinds of problems that the world is experiencing, is that we are talking about the problem of difficulty and high cost of farming. So it is because the farming method becomes more and more complicated and the cost keeps rising because we have to buy all these fertilizers and pesticides from the market that fundamentally farming becomes more difficult
52:10 and the whole agricultural industry would decline. And we thought that all those problems... If Hawaiian farmers practice our method, which can teach them how to go low cost and environment friendly, but still have the good yield and high quality, it could help the revival of Hawaiian agriculture. And so, what's so different about natural farming from conventional chemical?
53:02 The biggest difference would be that it is environmentally friendly. So if you practice natural environment, whereas if you use chemicals, toxins, and poisons to kill the creatures that are living there, or get rid of the grass, or fertilize the land with chemicals, that actually destroys the environment and the soil. And the resulting crop, the harvest you get, also is not as good quality as you would get from an organic agriculture.
53:52 So I would say environmentally friendliness is very, very low cost. Because we do not promote the buying of farming inputs. We promote the making of the farming inputs by the farmers themselves. so what we do is we go around teach the farmers how to make their own fertilizers make their own yeah it's reading from my hard drive which is why the audio is dropping out and the video is stuttering because it's reading over a network but that's the reason you gotta usda regulations
54:41 and when we tell them and i mean when the farmers are able to make the inputs for themselves what that actually does is it dramatically lowers the cost of farming because all they need they do not buy it all they need they make it and they make it from ingredients so if you want the full without the audio dropping out it's just it's naturally happening but be a pure knf member and you'll get this video shortly so it's good it's helping me tantalize or just uh leaf mold from the from the trees or just rock dust or like a human species or urine or animal manure.
55:27 Those kind of things are freely available but are very useful in farming. Some of the chemicals that we do need, we do say that you need to buy are the sulfur, caustic soda and caustic potash, which are so yeah if you want the full without the skips then you gotta you know wait for me to cut it into a video and join peer canons there are materials used for making soap so if you practice our method you can go ultra low cost and then the third thing I would like to mention is that it is it is low cost it is organic
56:14 and it is still effective. It would be useless if you develop a technology that is not workable. If you practice our method on the field, it will work, and the roots will be very vigorous, and you will have high yield and high quality. It is very, very easy. very easy. So it is because it is easy it is possible to tell the farmers to make those inputs by themselves. If it was difficult you cannot do that. So we have made a detailed manual on how to make these fertilizers, pesticides, mineral inputs, microorganism inputs by yourself. And it is we have written a detailed book
57:02 on it is going up on the Amazon as an e-book. And this knowledge, we believe, has a great potential to bring hope to many places that have been collapsed in agriculture. Four points. Four points. Farmers who are already conscious and are practicing organic, many are finding it's just too expensive, too much labor. How does natural farming compare and what can natural farming do for those farmers?
57:52 The big dilemma is that many conventional farmers who are aware of these environmental problems, they want to go back to natural way of farming. They want to go organic. But the problem is, If you do go to organic farming, the problem is that first you have to buy organically certified inputs like fertilizers or organic pesticides. And you have to buy them for use. And in many cases, they are more expensive than the chemical counterparts.
58:39 Chemical fertilizers, organic fertilizers are... In many cases, it's more expensive. So when they transition to organic farming, they find that the farming cost actually increases. And then they have the hope that they can sell it at a higher price because it's organic. But the problem of marketing is not that easy. And another thing is that the method of practicing organic farming is too difficult. So even if you want to go organic, it is very difficult to do. It's difficult to learn, the theories are confusing, the practice is very difficult,
59:18 turning the compost is back-breaking, and it's hard to go large-scale. That and also there's a problem of effectiveness. Even when you start going organic and you stop using chemical fertilizers, then your crops might not grow as well. And then if you're a farmer, you have to make a living. And that is a very hard decision to take. You go organic, you go less sealed, and you can even go less quality. That means less money for your family. So those are some of the barriers that actually block farmers, conventional farmers, going organic.
59:56 And the solution we have is that for the first one about the issue relating to cost, I think I've explained it fully. Second one, about the effectiveness, I also said that our method is very effective. It's been ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... Provincial Best Tasting Food Award. So, yeah. What was the third one I said?
1:00:43 I put... You mean in Korea? Or elsewhere in the world, in China. and give us a short list of who's embracing this. The Korean ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
1:01:30 Mean lag. It's just right there. You'd think a gigabit connection would be better. However, as the number of people grew who practiced could be a really beneficial thing. So now the Ministry of Agriculture, they actually... I like the suspense that this is generating. Maybe it'll encourage us to all join the Pure K&F Foundation. It is very well received and established in Korea. And Mr. Joe's father, Master Joe, has been traveling all
1:02:23 that his knowledge has flown into. So it is quite a lot. In many places, they are having results, but in many places, some places don't have results. Yeah. Yeah, there you go, John. You know, you can watch Ginger John today and hopefully do your research. So what we want to do in the future is we want to help people all around the world who want to practice this kind of farming and help them establish. Yeah, maybe, you know, put this railing up eventually. We'll see. Got the go-ahead. So we will see. It's just a matter of me.
1:03:06 We ultimately even think that this can actually help mitigate the problem of poverty in developing countries. And so how can people access the information? Can't have office hours, baby. Woo! Yeah. everything so all information we have we upload it in our website uh jadam.kr jadam.kr you put en en.jadam.kr for english homepage and also we upload all the every sunday 9 a.m in the keyword jadam organic bombing and then you'll find videos not so many right now but we will continue to upload it and you'll be able to see millions
1:03:56 and millions of it because not only us but all the farmers around the world who practice just like you upload your videos tag them so our policy is to open everything and then we share share everything. This farming, all the findings and the experience that they reach, they will be shared by everybody, including us. So this is a collective knowledge, and because it is collective, it will evolve extremely fast and spread very fast. But it's up to you. Well, you know, sometimes it looks kind of bleak.
1:04:42 Of course, of course. The corporations, the level of chemical dependency. Is there resistance from the chemical companies? You know, what the world is, is what the world is. Whether you despair or whether you hope is your choice. The world was never despair or hope. It's your choice. Because of the things that we do, because of the things we promote, such as we want the farmers to make their own fertilizer, their own pesticides, their own minerals, their own wetting agents, surfactants, everything is made by themselves.
1:05:26 which means the companies that want to sell those have experienced a decrease in the profit. And it is never our intention to harm or damage any business people. But what we want is the farmers to benefit, and we would like a coexisting and mutually beneficial relations between farmers and the business. Okay. Perfect. Well said. Okay. Anything else that you want to, that we should include? Okay. Just fun? Yeah, Hawaii is a paradise. We stayed here for two weeks. We love the paradise.
1:06:14 And we really, really want this paradise to be left as a paradise. And I learned this from our Hawaiian friends, Imua. Thanks. Yeah, so there you go. That's Ray talking, you know, Jadam right after the whole, what you call, they just gave that workshop. And then you could hear people sweeping, cleaning up, cleaning up the area, doing all that stuff after their workshop. and uh you know so thanks uh no thanks for tuning in we got some medag in the house we got at least one slide down plus some ray some good interviews keep this spirit of korean natural farming alive
1:07:03 you know that that that excuse me that video was kind of jittery so if you wanted the whole thing join just like all one and the same did you know be part of it uh pureknf.org you can join the membership there and these documentaries will be you know 1080p with no stuttering because it's buffered off my drive here it's always fun having a slow ass nas slow ass nas that should be dot com um but anyway thanks for tuning in well i appreciate you especially stone mason throwing down some super chats uh you know you can always hit up super thanks in the thing boost up my my
1:07:41 you know, monetary incentive to be here. Loving you guys. Thanks to Pure Can F Foundation. Thanks to Master Joe. None of this would be here without them. And who knows what I would be doing without that. So thanks for tuning in. Thanks this week. I'll see you in July. And we'll be back doing the same thing. Continuing on. Continuing on. Oh my gosh. Yes. long live the natural farmer love you thanks peace um out