Nutrient Cycle Timing, Spader vs Tiller, Tractor Size

0:30 Well, good morning, good morning. Welcome to Office Hours for July 17th, 2022. And yeah, happy you're here and getting the medicine you need. And yeah, aloha. Hey, welcome. What's up, Julia? Good to see you from around the world. And I'm glad you guys are tuning in here. It's a special day. It's Suze's birthday today. Turning, getting older and wiser and all those things. So good day for me.

1:19 but luckily she's a forgiving wife and able to we both support Korean natural farming and the work and efforts that we're doing here so she's cool with me doing this on her birthday instead of spending the whole day on Sunday with her but um thanks to her and um you know just yeah such wonderful great person in my life and um so hopefully the volume's coming through for you guys well here. I did set up my little audio interface a little bit differently. I'm going through my Zoom, and I don't know, just kind of trying to make things better here. And

2:00 happy birthday to Thomas as well. Good to see you, man. Getting older, getting wiser, getting more microbes in your life. What could be better? Hey, thank you. all right so we'll start off today with a little bit of higher wisdom and um today is the exact um hexagram we were just talking about we were just playing some board games last night some friends came over settled some katan played uh machi koro machi koro it's kind of an interesting new game but uh it's all about modesty if you kick too much butt people don't

2:43 want to play with you. So here it is. Modesty. The creative acts to empty what is full and to offer abundance to what is modest. This hexagram suggests that deepening of one's modesty now is a sure means of improving the situation. There is no power so great as modesty or compelling the assistance of the sage, nor one so hindering as immodesty. Those in high places who retain their modesty are loved by all and continually prosper. Those below who cultivate modesty inevitably rise on the strengths of their merits without making enemies along the way.

3:37 But what does modesty mean? Certainly it entails a refusal to boast or act imperiously with others, even in small ways. But beyond this steadfast humility, it also means that our effort to discern what is right and then do it is constant. We do not work against ourselves, and we do not indulge in doubts about the wisdom of correct conduct. This unwavering commitment to what is correct may be called the modesty before the sage. So, there is in modesty a component of non-action,

4:23 that is, not indulging in arrogant, ego-centered behavior, as well as a component of active effort, looking for opportunities to correct ourselves, to assist justice where there is injustice, to feed where there is hunger, and to give solace where there is pain. Finally, and most plainly, modesty means holding to innocence, sincerity, and openness in every situation. to do this is to empty yourself and make room for the blessings of the creative to take root

5:08 so for sure you know oh that's a good one i always notice that if i'm too um too proud or to think like oh you know especially when it comes to board games like oh i think i'm gonna win and you know you start taking an early lead and then you know if you've ever played settlers of Catan and everyone targets you with the robber and just messes up your things and you build a city and then it's like oh they put the robber there and then you know you can't collect anything and it just you know the best is to be subtle and sly if you're gonna play the game like

5:44 to just put your faith in higher power and be like you know I think I'm gonna win this but not going to be too proud and just going to go about it the right way. So, um, so, and also I want to thank you, thank you guys for showing up here and just, you know, continually showing up. And I hope that, um, you know, trying to be a modest leader here in, um, natural farming and, um, you know, trying to set a good example of not being like, Oh, I know all this. Um, even though I may be, I don't know, one of the more, I think the most senior person on the big

6:22 island practicing besides Dr. Park, but he doesn't really do a bunch of natural farming. He's more of a teacher and educator. He's a, he's a doctor, um, used to be a pediatrician. Now he's kind of retired. Um, and with, um, Kim Chang passing away this past year, I think, um, I think that, you know, I'm pretty sure I'm the most senior person on the island, which is kind of, kind of crazy. It's like, you know, of modesty. I don't, I don't try to like, you know, when I was writing up a bio the other day, cause I'm trying to, um,

6:53 I'm, I'm teaching a class down at Hawaiian Sanctuary. Um, so if you're on the big island, you're interested in getting in on a class. Um, I think I put it on my calendar here. Let me, let me see what it is. It's in August and, um, it will be, let's see here. It's their Thursday class. Oh, I went the wrong way. And it will be the 18th or the 11th and the 18th. So both, I'm teaching two classes. The 11th is going to be on natural farming, just making it simple, making it easy, you know, because my friend David, David Forsyth, who, who used to do the

7:42 Microbial Secret Society with me, he just taught down there and he did a bunch of stuff about natural farming. Hopefully that buzzing noise isn't coming through to you guys. It's interesting, this deal here. But I, so he just taught some natural farming classes because, you know, it's a happening thing. He's, he's, you know, he's been doing the practice, doing the education. So it's great to see other young, new teachers get out there and spread the word and share. But, but I'll also be following up. And so I didn't want to like pinch on him what he's teaching

8:18 too much. So my whole goal is to take like my, the things I've learned over time. And just like I do here with this office hour is really to try to simplify it and try to make it as easy as possible. And, you know, part of that, I get rid of the acronyms besides KNF, right? But, you know, just talking about food, medicine, cleanser, fuel, reproduction, structure, minerals, medicine, all those things in terms that people can understand. Because when, you know, when I try to teach and I only have like a two, three hour session, it's like, well, okay, I don't want to

8:56 teach you a whole bunch of new stuff. I want to instead take what you know and plug you into what you already can learn. You already know about food, right? You can tell if a plant is hungry. You already know about sickness. You can tell if a plant is sick. So calling it food and medicine. Oh, the volume's a little low. I can crank it up if you need, if it's coming in a little stronger there. I can bring it in, but it's going to pick up a little background noise that way. Um, so anyway, yeah, teaching, teaching these things, bringing them all in and trying to simplify it.

9:30 So that's, that's my goal for teaching down Hawaiian sanctuary on the 11th will be to simplify natural farming. And then on the 18th, I will be doing, um, the livestock. Cause I think that's one of the things that I sets me apart from some other folks is that I've been raising no smell pigs and chickens for, uh, over a decade now, at least I was calculating it out the other day and they're asking me how long have I been doing natural farming? And I was like, well, I think it's like 15 years or so at least I started 2007. So

10:09 I think that's like 15 years, something like that. So, so sharing, sharing the, um, sharing the, you know, animals and that livestock, the feeds, the nutrient cycle between them of when, you know, when you should use this and that and those things. Um, yeah, here, I'll turn it up for you guys and turn it down on my end, the monitoring side. Um, so bringing that in, um, so I'll be teaching a little bit here, uh, two classes. I think they're free to the public, although you should, you know, when you go, you should make a donation to at least Hawaiian

10:46 Sanctuary or whatever. I also have some books there for sale. So if you want to get a hard copy book of my recipe book, I'll have those with me. And want to give a shout out to Naylor, who I saw at Home Depot. So just being a, you know, a person cruising around in my hometown and seeing people that he's like, he saw me in the island. He's like, Drake? I was like, oh, yeah, yeah. Hey, how's it? You know? And he's like, oh, I watch your office hours. And I was like, oh, that's great, man. Like, and so somebody that's, you know, on the big island even, you

11:26 know, because this is great. It's like global community, people from Finland, Florida, New York. Where else are you from? Put it in the chat. We'll see all over the world here. Panama, you know, Um, and, but people from my own hometown see me, oh, Utah. What's up? Yeah. Utah. Yeah. Panama. I already said that now you, but, um, yeah. Um, so, but it's, it's so great to see people where they're not just like, oh, you know, like pissed off at you, you know, and when you come with modesty and it's humility, then you don't make enemies along the way. And it's a great way to, to rise up.

12:05 Oh, what's up? Seattle, Uruguay, Isle of Man. I don't even know where that is. Must have a lot of men there. New Mexico, man, this is great. This is like, you guys are all over up in here. But so anyway, back to Naylor, it's just like, you know, he tunes into this, but he said he doesn't watch it live. He watches it afterwards. So shout out to all the people that get the replays on these and check them out. Because this is, you know, it's a great archive service that we have here. And if you're not here live, you know, it's, it's always there. And, um, yeah, Florida. Yeah.

12:41 You guys, man, all over the country, this is, this is the thing. Like I was talking like, what, what do I want to do this year for natural farming? It's like, if I can empower you guys, you guys are in New York, man, you got to link up with, um, the goof man. He's up in New York too. Um, but you guys, like if you guys can start these, these, um, natural farming teachings in your areas and get people really tuned in. Um, I mean, this is what's going to change the world, especially, you know, uh, Seattle is a great, great place. I was just up there. I was just

13:14 in Bellingham. Um, you know, some, some great folks in Seattle that I know that are doing this, um, uh, you know, and, um, Mark's out there, um, and, um, or Ontario. What? Wow. Um, yeah, Canadians even. What's all this about? I love Canadians, man. We had a brethren come down, Trevor. He's from Peace River, which is way the heck up in Canada. And he brought some sweet agates that are still in our house. We keep them around our bed. And just, yeah, this global community. If you can teach these people where you're at, like, look at this. We can change the

13:59 world. So, um, so anyway, yeah, teaching some classes, doing those things. Columbia. Oh man. Yeah. All these places need natural farming, right? The deserts like Arizona, New Mexico, man, you can grow amazing stuff in the desert. I'd love to see what you guys got going, sharing back and all in those things. And, um, I do, um, you know, uh, post up media, Joel here, he sent me a video last week, let me pull it up here gotta get into my emails come on, and verify it's me yes it is, I gotta type in my password

14:47 oh I didn't type it in right. You know why? I got my... There, I typed it in right. It is me. Turns out it is me. And he sent a little seed soak solution here. So I just wanted to show this up here of what he got going. because I didn't watch this. And again, sorry, I don't have volume on this because I got a Mac Studio.

15:34 The foundation just ended up purchasing one of these and it doesn't have the deal on there. So I'm just going to pull up this video and play it here, transition this. Oh, maybe it is playing for you guys. But I'm just going to pause this video for one sec. So you notice that when he took these transplants out, everyone tries to keep the soil on them

16:24 and stuff but the korean natural farming way is actually to bare root them like this because just just to fill in a little bit of theory with this is that um when when master cho takes it it's he he you know some people say it's like sexist or racist or i don't know whatever you know cancel culture these days but but he takes it and he shakes off the soil because he says it's like when you take a woman and she goes to marry a man and this is kind of old korean values so you know, maybe you can be like, oh, it's like, you know, women marry women these days and whatever,

16:56 you know, you can get all PC if you want to do. But the idea is that you shake off the dirt because that's like your baggage and you don't want to bring that to your new marriage, which is like the transplant going into the new soil. So if you take the old soil with it and bring it into the new soil, it's like bringing all these, you know, baggage and things that it's better off just to give her a dowry, which is like what he's doing here. He's soaking it in this plant juice and this mixture that's up on the screen here, which is the seed soak solution. And he's putting

17:32 it into here and then they're powering up with this. So he's not bringing the old baggage, which is that potting soil. He's powering this up. And as soon as you plant these into prep soil, now the microbes are going to be like, Hey, that was what I wanted. And they're going to join it and go. So it's kind of interesting because natural farming, it's like you give them this hard knock life when you're transplanting them. You bare root them. And most people would be like, oh, don't do that. Like, especially with darians or different trees, they're like, oh no,

18:00 the roots are so sensitive. But I'll tell you what, you do this, you bare root them, you transplant them, you soak them in here in the seed soak solution, put them into the ground, and you get even better results. So I mean, just a little pause there to fill in for some theory on what he's doing here, but he's doing it right. That's awesome to see, Joel. So can them look like these are like coffees it looks like. Not sure. Oh and he's transplanting them up to a bigger... Oh and newspaper pots man. No it's not newspaper pots. Thought you were going to go 100% sustainable but plastic.

18:43 nah oh that's hilarious to kind of um what do you call hassle each other on like it's like you're using plastic still it's like yeah man it's like it's 2022 man you know you got to do what makes sense right so yeah that's that's cool man that's i love your little short videos they're so cool and and to see these things happening what's what's up how they're going um okay and um yeah hey uh hjs divine hands man you know if people don't want to listen to you because of your ethnic background man don't worry about it it's the modesty it's this modesty of

19:28 just continue to do it and when your crops are outperforming everybody and when you're growing better and you're using less money less water and you're you know you're growing better things with less pest damage and more robust, delicious food, people will listen to you. So it's about modesty. It's not, you know, like just because you're ethnic or whatever, man, don't worry, man. It's all one people. We're all one people in this land and people of earth, God's children, all of us, you know. And so don't worry about it, man. Just keep persistent, keep modest,

20:04 keep doing it and you'll you'll you'll persevere and thrive and it'll it'll work out really well for you so um and you guys are in yeah i hope you guys link up you guys cooper's down all that you know it says it's kind of funny when you first join the youtube i think it gives you a warning like don't divulge personal details but here we are diverging personal details in the chat but um yeah it's good people to link up in here you guys are in long island no rain for a month and I never watered due to heavy chemicals in the municipal water yet plants doing great those

20:39 roots must be deep down microbes did that yeah yeah yeah you know the microbes you don't need to water it you know the funny thing is there's plenty of water in the air there's plenty of water in the air right and so if you get the soil in it it's just like how you get condensation on a cup and if you can get the soil deep and cool then the water the air penetrates down and the water then condensates out so it'll actually pull water out of the air just similar like dew at night but like happening underground and the actual air is full of water and it lets it out underground so

21:14 thinking it needs to rain for for a bunch of water is not necessarily true there's you know with great microbes good good biochar good microbes in the soil it's it's amazing so yeah so yeah cool the metaphor of of the planting in that you know and it's kind of a weird metaphor you know some people some people when master cho came some people would complain like oh you know it's like but he's from a different era of old school and and those those metaphors still make sense especially if you're really thinking about you know you bring back uh gender roles into

21:51 farming of like man has strength, women has caring and these things. Like, I feel like one of the reasons we get upset about those today is we're so disconnected from nature and things that it becomes hard to understand how genders really fit into like what, you know, how it builds stable families, how it builds stable farms, how it builds stable communities. And I don't really want to go out on that, that, um, that one here, I'll just be modest on it and just say, you know, it's up to each person to find their happiness. And I think that through nature, the way we've been designed

22:24 of, you know, it really works well. So if you can find your niche and get in, it's great. So no sound broke your heart, man, I can hear the music. Maybe it's just looping back for me. And or maybe it's not playing for you. But I'll figure I'll figure out the the the sound. In fact, I can buy a program for $100 called Loopback, which will do it for me. So I'll get the sound working here in the next little bit here. I just, I was reluctant to like spend $100 to buy this Loopback somewhere for the thing because they canceled Soundflower. It doesn't, doesn't work

23:04 on the M1 hardware. So anyway, it's the, the bane of buying a new architecture computer that's faster and better and whatever, but, um, but at least this is running smooth, right? And, um, yeah. Oh, and I'll, I'll link the thing. So if you do want to check out his, his videos there with all the sound and Western Australia, K and F in the desert, we're now on a rainy season. So you guys that are all in the desert doing, doing all that, I hope you take the time to check out the Microbial Secret Society. And, you know, I might set it up so that you can just get a

23:43 single episode. But if you go here to Microbial Secret Society, which is microbialsecret.org, and then you go under micro celebrities, you look up Sam Bevins here. He has, because he's in the desert, right? He was, he was up in Israel. I'm not, not sure where he's at these days. I haven't checked in with Sam for a little while, but he has the, um, you know, he's, he's farming in the Israel, Israeli desert. I don't, well, I don't know if it's, you know, out in the, the, the Middle East. Um, you know, it's, it's, it's dry there. I mean, that's like, it's like, you know,

24:23 when you think of a desert, I usually think of those areas, you know, the Sahara and like Israel and, you know, I'm sure it's nice out there too, but he's, you know, this episode here, Irrigation Without Water, you know, Polymorphism, Bechamp, if you're not familiar with Bechamp, it's amazing. We got into that, talking about, you know, these theories of life. And then again, Desert, K&F, Israel, Farming Without Water. So both these episodes. I mean, look at the, look at the cover art here. I mean, it was just like, yeah, you know, there's camels,

24:58 there's cacti, pyramids, you know, because he was doing a bunch of stuff down in Egypt too. And so, you know, look at these palm trees and these things, but look, his stuff's thriving. There's a pile there. He's putting, look at the mycelium reaching out, making his flowers grow nice. Maybe it's some kava, you know, and spraying his stuff, his solutions. Like the cover art has all the secrets in it, right? And so, so it's all there. And don't spend a hundred dollars. Yeah, well, you know, I probably could run the volume, the thing out and then back into,

25:39 because I, because I do have this Zoom H6 sitting in front of me, which is what I'm running my audio through today, because I used to do the podcast, right? So the Zoom H6 is my, H6 is my podcast rig where I'd go around and just interview folks with the pod, you know, for the podcast on this thing. It's a great little tool. If you're into podcasting and stuff, I highly recommend Zoom H6. But spend a hundred bucks for it. Yeah, well, we'll see. Okay. So what's the biggest size tractor you feel comfortable using that won't damage the

26:16 structure microbes of the soil. And from what I understand, like, and this, I'm kind of out there on this, but I don't think that tractors really damage the soil too much. You know, I have a New Holland 1510. And so I'll pull this up here and get some images of it and show you what I got. So I'm rolling one of these bad boys here. It's similar to this Ford tractor, but it's this New Holland here. I got the same bucket on it. Mine's definitely not a 2010 or 2009. It's an older one, but it's not a huge tractor. It's not like this one here. I don't think that's still a 1510. I

27:05 think that's a little bit bigger, but it's one of these here. And let's see, these other ones, These are not the same ones I have, but I got one like this with a bucket on it. And, um, let's see what are, I don't know what the weight is on this thing. Do they say a weight? No, it doesn't say a weight, but, um, but it's not these tires, the way they spread out the weight, it's not that they're compressing. It's more of like the, the tillage that you do when you destroy the soil structure and then you drive over it.

27:38 And, and the thing is like, you know, if you're putting protectors behind you, the the lactic acid bacteria is behind you. And the IMOs, they'll break through that compaction. And I wouldn't really worry about tractors compressing the land. It's more like after you till and then it rains, it makes this pan. And like hard pan happens under the plow layer because you till and then it rains and that really compacts it versus like the machine itself compacting it. I think the whole idea of the machine itself compacting because like tracks and treads and

28:09 the way it spreads out the weight, it's not that much weight on the soil. I mean, sure, sure, if you drive over something, it will compress it, right? I'm not trying to say it's not that, but I'm saying in terms of compaction factor, the tractor isn't one of the main things I think that compacts the soil. I think it's other poor practices that happen that compact the soil in a way than rather than the tractor itself. So what's the biggest machine? I would get the smallest machine you can, you can, you know, work with because getting a huge machine, it doesn't,

28:42 doesn't, you know, odds are your tractor will sit idle most of the time. If it's just you, unless you have a cooperative that you're sharing the tractor with and, um, getting something small because the smaller it is, the easier it is to fit within things. You know, a big tractor, you think you can pull a whole bunch and do a big, big area and you can, but you know, it depends. It depends. If you're doing like thousands of acres, big tractor makes sense. But if you're doing like, you know, on the, on the, our 25 acres, the biggest thing for

29:11 me is the bucket because I'm able to lift up heavy stuff and carry it around the farm and, and move things, uh, more than, more than I use implements for, for tilling and, you know, mashing. I'm, I'm mostly like carrying materials with it and burying things and lifting things up. That's primarily what I'm using the tractor for. And then also we got our sprayer, which we're just going to buy a three point hitch for the back, a forklift three-point hitch, so we can pick up, and our spray tank's kind of broken,

29:42 so we're going to do that and put out a boom and make these things go. So anyway, hopefully that answers, you know, what's the biggest tractor. I'd get as small as possible and get the right implements and get these. What's up, Tyler? Hey, man. So Tyler, he visited the farm here and made a sweet video about the farm. And so what's up? For spray and foliar, are there any specific combo of solutions you don't want to mix in the same sprayer? And I'd say no, no. I mean, you potentially, potentially if you were a super wild man and you were just like, you know, not,

30:28 not heeding any of the recommendations and you just wanted to ignore everything and just like go for it. You could potentially go and take all the nine core solutions, all of these here and put them in your sprayer and spray them all. And it wouldn't, it wouldn't be good. It wouldn't be bad, it would just be okay. You know, you could put all nine of these, the microbes, protectors, food, cleanser, medicine, structure, fuel, reproduction, and minerals, and they don't really, you know, they would all work, right? But what's recommended is to follow these,

31:04 where you have a maintenance formula, a soil formula, seed formula, leaf, bloom, fruit, and harvest, and then matching those, which these are then in this table here. So if you wanted to make some maintenance, you'd add food, cleanser, medicine, and structure and add a maintenance. And that's just for general maintenance. Or if you wanted to do a, you know, your plants are coming into bloom, you'd go with a food, cleanser, medicine, structure, fuel, protectors, and minerals, because those are going to support blooming at that period where you're

31:36 adding in the, you know, like a little bit of fuel, the extra minerals, the extra protectors to help it in this period. You can even increase this structure a little bit here because that really helps that bloom. But these are just general guidelines of like how and when to use things. Are there any things you don't want to add? Maybe like, you know, if you're going to spray the Jadam pesticides, for instance, spray those, then come back with the KNF stuff. But really, you know, and if you're worried about your sprayer having contamination, just pour protectors in

32:14 there, dilute it like 1 to 20, 1 to 30, 1 to 40, you know, 1 to 50 maybe, and leave those in there and the lactobacillus will eat out any contamination. So really, I wouldn't worry too much about it for what you, you know, you not want to mix things in the same sprayer. I mean, even And even if you use like herbicides, chemical herbicides or whatever, just put lactobacillus in there and leave it for five days with water and it'll eat out those chemicals and should clean everything up so it should be clear. They're the protectors, right? They protect you from these poisons and everything.

32:52 So, you know, even if you bought a new sprayer used from somebody, you don't know what they sprayed, just put lactobacillus in there. so um sorry you're late you're not late you're here right on time um yeah any dads will understand okay and so i got way back here on the chat here so if i'm growing a ton of lettuce and cabbage but also tomatoes eggplants etc that are starting to fruit do i need to apply two different maintenance solutions um so oftentimes like this is a great question. Oftentimes in this maintenance solution here, where you see, I'll

33:30 zoom it in a little bit more here and see, but in this maintenance solution, you know, it's calling for one food, one cleanser, one medicine, one structure, all of these ratios into one gallon. So eight milliliters, eight milliliter, four, four into one gallon. However, what you can do here is you can put up to three foods in there and not change these ratios. So even though it seems a little bit counterintuitive, like you're adding more sugar, more, more of these things. It's not, you're really just adding these diverse enzymes. So if you're growing all three of those things,

34:00 you could add in, uh, you know, uh, um, something from growing tips, a can of food from growing tips, and then a can of food from like fermented eggplant or something. So you get those fruits plus the tips. And then maybe a third one, which would be, I don't know, um, maybe some bamboo to help accelerate the growth. And now you put those three foods in there, all those are eight milliliters. So now you've added way more than I've said here, but it's not enough to like over kick it over. It's once you go past three, say I added four of these in, now I got to add less

34:34 than eight milliliters of each to get down, to keep it under that ratio. But you can mix in multiple foods. That's what's nice about this. And if you have multiple crops, you can mix many of these in here. So, and that goes for any of these where you're adding these food. Anytime it calls for food, feel free to add three of them in and it's going to be more than you, you know, than it says here. But, but that's just like in general, that's a recommendation that Master Cho has passed down and it's totally legit to do. So don't worry about that. Just add

35:04 a few more in there and that way you'll get that combo that you're looking for in those great growths. Yeah, you use a device called a spader. That's what I do, too. I have this device right here, which is probably the same one you have. So this spader here, where it's not really a good picture of it from right there, but if you look at it, it just has a bunch of shovels that spin versus tilling. And so as opposed to like a tiller like this, where you're going to actually spin the soil and grind it up and grind it instead, what a spader does, let's see if we can get a picture of

35:45 it. It's this one. It's a pretty good one. It's these shovels. And the basic way it works is the shovel goes down and then pops up, goes down and pops up, goes down and pops up. And it's as a bunch of people that spaded your land. And so it's different than tilling because it's not going to, it's not going to really spin the land and take the top and bury it to the bottom. It's just going break up your top layer. And so I also run an Italian spader, just like this one right here in this picture. I run this same machine on my tractor. So key is to put it in super low horsepower,

36:17 almost idling, and just run it across the land. And it's like, I always say, it's like, it's like 20 kanakas behind you digging, you know, it's like, it's amazing how fast and what you can do with this machine. So the right machines, I'm all about that, getting the right things, the right places. Um, so let's see here. Yeah. The maintenance solutions, common denominator. You guys are good doing these things here. You guys are on it. Um, yeah. Um, per the solution app, there are different ratios for leaf stage fruit. And that's what I mean. Oh, um,

37:00 it's if the app's different than my thing man ah I don't yeah anyway I gotta check in on those things it's it's like I haven't updated the software since forever and I'm pretty sure it's still correct because I did that off Master Cho's spreadsheet like with him to be like hey is this correct he's like yeah so um yeah okay so yeah getting the right machines here the spader it's well worth an investment, especially if you have a big, big, you know, tractor like that to drive it. Yeah, so I think I kind of answered that one about the different things.

37:43 So Jerome is asking, does the flowers you can't mention on YouTube follow the same fat skinny schedule as in your feed schedule. And I want to go, maybe now is a good time just to talk a little bit about nutrient cycle. Let me zoom out here. And I don't really show it here. Okay. Basically, basically what I, so, so before I get into this, basically I want to, I want you to notice, okay, so I'm just going to explain this here with just a little bit of hand waving stuff. So, you can see my hand waving, right? Ooh, yeah. So, basically you have three main phases. You have a

38:31 childhood, a teenager, and a adulthood, or when you're able to get pregnant, okay? So, those are your three phases. So in this side of your, but then within that, it goes chubby, skinny, chubby, skinny, puberty, puberty, chubby, skinny, chubby, skinny, chubby, skinny harvest. And that's the same thing as if you have a baby and it's still a baby, but it comes out skinny, right? But then it immediately starts to get chubby. So you start to give it a chubby thing. Then the baby starts to get skinny again as it starts to toddle around. Then it goes and it gets chubby again because

39:08 you know, as you go through this phase, you know, Thomas with an actual kid, I don't have a kid yet, so I haven't actually observed this. I've only heard Master Toe talk about it, and I've seen it, and I know it happens. But, you know, right before you go into sixth grade, you know, you're getting chubby, and then you're going skinny, and then you go into puberty. And so, basically, you got to understand there's two of these things. There's one big one, which is going like this, like one big phase, which only goes three times, like three oscillate, you know, like one, two, three,

39:38 like childhood, teenager, pregnancy, right? One, two, three. But then there's this other one that's going up and down, vibrating back and forth. And this one's oscillating back and forth. And so there's two phases. There's a big wave, which is slow. And then there's this high frequency wave, you know, especially since I'm doing more radio stuff these days, this high frequency wave is coming through. And so it's a combo of knowing this and adjusting your spray sprays. And this is where it's like the most advanced natural farming gets into where it's complex and all

40:10 these things because each crop is different how it does this. Some have multiple puberty stages and it's very hard to explain just in a general way. But and I say that, but it's actually fairly easy because the basic thing is that in these childhood ones, the food that I want to use in each of these is a food from leaf tips. The food I want to use in this one is from unripe fruits and flowers. The food I want to use in this one is from fruits. Okay. So hopefully you guys can see that. Maybe I make my cursor bigger. Let's see here. Can I do that real quick? I don't know

40:57 if it's inaccessibility. I shouldn't try to do this while I'm live. Okay. Hopefully you guys can see my mouse here. But it's going, so that's your main thing. But then you're going to put a chubby, skinny, chubby, skinny. So you're going from a leaf to a fruit, a leaf to a fruit, like these sprays and you're oscillating between these and then you go into the bloom bloom and then leaf fruit leaf fruit leaf fruit but the food that's in these is changing so if I go from here back up to this table here in this case if I'm doing a leaf and a fruit spray for the early stage the food

41:35 that I'm going to have in here is going to be a food from growth tips. Okay, so both these are going to be a food from growth tips. The food that I have in this one is going to be a food, so then as I go into the puberty phase here, then the food that I want to have in this one, here in the puberty formula, bloom formula here, is going to be from unripe fruits and flowers, right then as i head over to here and i get into this phase of the plant like after their blooms flowers are starting to set fruits are starting to grow into this phase the same leaf and fruit

42:16 i'm going to change so that the food that goes into the same leaf and fruit is now going to be from ripe fruits and so that's the way you're matching these up is is is for optimal growth Like say you're in a greenhouse, you're doing monocultures, you're able to do these things where you're not polyculture and you're able to just concentrate these nutrients in. That's how you're going to modify these foods that are in there. And that's why when it's translated through my translation of it, I don't have the acronyms of FPJ and FFJ because that kind of confuses folks of when you use it.

42:52 You would think you'd use FFJ here and FPJ there. It's not true. It's these different foods used at different times. That's why I call it all food here. So if you've learned from someone else and they've, you know, they've made it unclear that way, here's the clarification right here. Nutrient cycle. Early stage, these foods are made from growth tips. Puberty, they're made from unripe fruits and flowers. And then later, once you're past that and you're into the reproductive thing, you make these foods from ripe fruits. So hopefully that clarifies that and it's all good.

43:28 there. Um, cause that's, that's how you follow the schedule for, for what's happening. Um, yeah. Yeah. And I like what Thomas said about alternating one week and then the other week of what you're doing. It's really hard when you're polyculturing. I mean, the thing is I can, you know, when we're in Korea, it's, it's like a completely different thing. I mean, Here, I'm going to show you, you know, like when I'm in Korea, let's see here, my channel, and then I'm going to go down here. So at my channel here, and then I'm going to scroll down

44:10 to where, you know, we're in Korea doing a tour. Where is that? It's got to be on this. really okay well that's that's these are the things nothing like learning from yourself when you go to your channel to show something and it's not there um I only have one didn't I don't I oh here here okay it's right here so these are these are like when I, you know, when I go to Korea, right? So like, let's look at this here and, you know, here, let's see here. Let's see which one, which one, which one. Looks like this trip was mostly politics.

45:00 Let's see that 25th. That wasn't the best tour to click on. let's see this 2016 tour I don't think this one was nearly as much politics yeah this one we went to the Jadam stuff and did all this shoot are they even good yeah so like here's an example of a farm where it's like if you look at it like they're just growing apples right in pairs they're not doing a whole bunch of polycultures like permaculture they don't they don't necessarily even know and believe in that. And here we are, you know, we're just, we're just

45:37 looking at just one crop and they're all in the same phase, right? So it's not like I have to like mix my sprays up because I got different crops and different things. Like when I'm learning with those guys, it's like they got all one thing and all these pairs are going to come ripe like on the same day kind of thing. It's not like there's different things and different seasons and different things. So you got to adapt what you're learning here to your situation. If you have a polyculture and you're doing it differently than this. You know, it's different. Here's another

46:08 grape farm that we're at, you know, where it's just grapes and they're all at one phase of growth in one area. I guess, let's see, most of the grapes here. You know, like, look, all the grapes, they're all coming ripe at the same time. It's not like there's a bunch. So he just makes one thing and puts it out there. And that's like, that's how they're using this stuff. So anyway, just, just to kind of clarify that it's like, you know, adapted to what you're at getting those things. Um, so yeah. So, um, so sweeter than anything saying, I don't like to include herbal

46:50 germicides besides conventional, the, the KNF medicine and other simple things like chili peppers. Yeah. You know, it makes sense. Keep it clean. Um, yeah. And adding cleanser for every food to keep it balanced. That's yeah. Great. Great. Michael. It's great. Great advice here. Mitchell, Mitchell. Sorry, Mitchell. I gotta, oh, gotta see. I'm sitting a few feet away from my monitor here. So, um, okay. So yeah. Catabolic versus anabolic kind of, yeah, probably those are probably the scientific terms I'm looking for that I just don't have. Um, but yeah, totally.

47:37 These things, they all, they all work together. Um, in expansion, yeah, vertical skinny getting tall, chubby, getting wide, you know, skinny, chubby, skinny, chubby. Like we all go through those phases. BJ Penn for governor 2022. Yeah. Getting the fight for the cakeys, right? Yeah. I don't know. I've watched him on Joe Rogan. I'm not sure he's quite up to being the governor. yeah oxens and cytokines yeah these are the these are the these are the scientific names um greg man you're you're getting in here weird man no keep the politics out of it so

48:26 um so the food you know every every politician if they if they embrace natural farming they'd have a stronger platform than whatever they're running on. I'd like to see the KNF candidate, you know, I don't think I'm going to run for office again, did it twice already finished pretty good in both times. It wasn't too bad. Um, and, and, uh, so partita is asking as, so the foods steer the plant between growth and reproduction. And it's, it's not, it's not that the foods steer it because, because you can feed it the wrong food at the wrong time and it's not

49:00 going to force it into the other behavior. It's what it needs. Like the whole point of putting in, um, you know, um, let's see the whole point of where I kind of trying to scroll around on this thing while I'm doing two things at once. Um, the whole point of putting in, um, fruits, like, like the whole point, I'm going to go back to the nutrient cycle here. The whole point of putting in fruits at this period, our fruits tend to be higher in the potassium and then unripe fruit happens to be higher in phosphorus and the leaf tips happen to be higher in nitrogen. And so if

49:39 you look at it from just like a simple NPK basis, you want more nitrogen here, you want more phosphorus here, and you want more potassium here. And it's just like they're already balanced though because if it's in the plant when it needs it like because you're getting it from the fruit when it needs it so you're going to just take that and balance it back to that exact time it already has the nutrient combos it needs so one one like simple way to like convince university folks is to be like well there's n p or n k and p and um and that's how n k p is is how it's going and that's

50:17 what you're going to get. And then, you know, there's also more calciums in this period that's happening. And, um, you're always getting Cal Foss and you're getting the soil formula, you know, like it's just balancing out and you're giving it back. So it's not going to, just cause I eat this certain food, isn't going to force me into a certain behavior, but if I ate the right food at the right time, that's, what's going to give me the nutrition I'm craving at that time. So it's more of giving it what it needs when it needs it versus forcing it into something by

50:47 saying, oh, I'm going to feed it this and then it's going to make it fruit. No, it's more like if it's fruiting and you give it food from fruits, it's going to be like, oh, that's the nourishment I need. It's like eating right for your diet, for your age. You know, babies need different nutrition than adults, all these different things, right? So it's understanding that and not, you're not using the solutions that guide something some way. You're more knowing it's going to go that way. So if I provide these nutrients right now, it's going to ease my plant

51:16 into this, um, into this phase that it's going to head into, right? So it's, it's not, you're not forcing, you're more like supporting as a way to think of it. So, um, and shoot, I'll, right after this, I'll send out the latest recipe book to all you guys that, that bought the, um, the other one. Cause I, I know I've been dragging my feet on that. I'm apologize. It's, oh man, I tell you, it's like, you know, when you get older in life, you have these projects and then they start hanging on you and it's like, oh, I gotta stay up to my people and show respect to

51:53 the people that support and nourish them back. And it's a two-way street. And then when that happens, that's better. But sometimes, man, it's like, oh, like I'll get texts and I'll read them and I don't reply. It's like, oh man, you know, it's like, I just gotta get onto that thing of doing it. So, um, and so, uh, Greg, when you say in Dr. Bugbee at Utah state once said that a hungry root has more vigor than an overfed one, and you're not overfeeding these things. You're feeding the plants foliarly and the, they're going to reach out into the soil for microorganisms. And that's

52:30 why you're not amending into the whole. And it's, you know, I mean, I don't know. I, your, your Gratitude is kind of negative here, so I'm just going to ignore that. Let's see here. Oh, thanks, Tyler. What's up? I'll give some of that to Sue as it's her birthday. Thanks. Appreciate super chats keeping me going. If I get five more or four more $20 ones, man, I can afford the loopback thing, even though Joel doesn't want me to buy it. But hey. Feeding bolt. That's why I assumed I am starting to have decent collection feeding bolted mint

53:14 juice to basil transplants later. Yeah. I think all this is good. Yeah. Is there any plants that would be beneficial? Exudates you can use for universal food sprays that would help balance out monocrops. Hey, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. What's up, Tomato33? You know, yeah beneficial exudates

54:00 bamboo is always a good choice comfrey is always a good choice what's another general purpose plant that grows horsetail because of the silica in it the weeds there thrive thriving in your area. You can always plant comfrey. It'll grow pretty much anywhere in America, I think, even around the world. But yeah, I'd say that's the most general purpose, or bamboos. They grow pretty diverse as well. And they might not agree in Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka is not practicing Korean natural farming. And if anything, the recipes they need in Sri Lanka,

54:39 If anyone has contacts in Sri Lanka, you need to get them this recipe right here, these two, because I've been following that and they've been destroyed by, you know, they just expected people to go organic. What does organic even mean? It's like they don't even know. And you can't just expect people to change over in one year of like going, but they need this to put the microbes, this boiled starch, put this out. It'll start to get the, you know, break up the fertilizer they did use. And then after this recipe, they need this one here.

55:14 Just take the leaves, put them into the bucket, rot them, and then put this juice out after two weeks and dilute at least one to a hundred and water it in. And this will fulfill your, your, um, nutrients. But yeah, they, they need this heavily and the whole world's going to go the way of Sri Lanka pretty soon. if you tuned into last week and you understood exponential theory, you really need these two recipes more than anything else. The others are fun, great. You know, you can, if you can afford sugar, you're, you're good. But those are like first world type of things versus this is third

55:47 world. This is what they need in Sri Lanka. So if you have Sri Lankan contacts and you can translate this into Sri Lankan or whatever language they speak there, get them this. You know, you have my permission to give it to them because they need it right now and go for it. So take these, translate into Sri Lankan, get it to those folks. These two recipes only. The rest, you know, they don't need because this is really what they need right here. So, yeah. Cool thing. Yeah. The enzymes, the hormones, all these things, life cycles.

56:26 so when flour starts feed through drippers no just feed them feed them foliarly you know i'd watch out for folks that are over educated um but humility man it's all about humility and just feeding feeding foliar is fine the whole way through um uh yes uh grause who has lactobacillus in the refrigerator for a couple of years there's green mold growing on the side of the jar should i throw it out absolutely it only lasts so long in the um in the deal here um so Oh, man.

57:15 Okay. Yeah, Greg's talking himself up. Modesty, man. You weren't here for the beginning. Yeah. Okay, so anyway, getting back down into these things. Coming down. Yeah, almost done with time too. Yeah, what's up, Paul from South Africa? Hey, yeah, you guys global here. Yeah, any advice for heavy clay soils? Very low in organic matter. The goof man has great advice on that.

58:03 He's working in heavy clays. Just IMOs, man, it works. Yeah, borage is a good one too, Tyler. Thanks for that, sweeter than anything. yeah i always i'm always skeptical of universities though for some reason they're good for knowledge but they're uh you know they're always it's who's funding them what are they doing um i just yeah sorry and just you know modesty i'm sure they got great things going i'm not going to talk any take a non-action active non-action heavy clay yeah exactly add organic matter don't add gypsum and a little biochar. But yeah, these natural farming things, man,

58:45 they'll go in great. Mint food. Okay. So, let's see here. I'm going to go into this one here. Okay, perfect. Okay, so let's see here. So we'll answer a couple more questions here before I go get it back to my wife here.

59:39 yeah, IMO, yeah, you guys, you guys got it, man, like, it's great, side note, do you know anything about agriculture land, and the Mormon church owns the United States of the world, wondering any thoughts you have in any of those, I don't know, but I got a Mormon guy that lives right up the road from me, and he is definitely not doing natural farming, but I think it would be great if they taught it in their church, it'd probably go great with their religion, and that kind of stuff, the leadership. We have a problem with the leadership class not being able to comprehend

1:00:13 complex systems from synthetic to organic. Yeah, yeah. And pepper leaf here. Okay, cool. Those are great advices. Sweeter than anything, the pepper leaf food, and for all their other peppers, and dark purple leaves, hopefully promote sun resistance. That's a cool idea. yeah I would love to see some of your IMO LMO under the scope yeah yeah cool so yeah okay well thanks guys

1:01:00 getting here with the time here what can I do for my microgreens what would be a great foliar feed I mean you know that the the solution you really want to put on microgreens is again the leaf solution because you're really getting you just want to have it grow a whole bunch of leaves so this solution here of where you're just doing this one here, the leaf. It has food, make those foods from other sprouts, cleanser, medicine, structure, fuel, protectors, because as they emerge, you want to keep the molds and stuff away. The protectors will help with that. The fuel will really help them grow

1:01:48 fast. The structure will keep them firm so they don't melt. The medicine will help improve their immune system. The cleanser will keep them clean and the food will give them the nutrition they need. So microgreens, some of the easiest with this recipe right here, you can't go wrong. They already have enough minerals from the seed and they don't need reproduction because, you know, they're not, you're not going to reproduce with them, but, but all those things there are great. And yeah. So yeah, appreciate you guys tuning in this Sunday.

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