GMO Soil Microbes, Dog Ear Infections, Jadam Origins

5:00 Hey, good morning, good day, good. whenever you're watching this, which is the cool part about technology and this platform, is that you may not even be watching it right now. You may be watching it later, which is awesome.

5:45 So, welcome, welcome, welcome to Korean Natural Farming Office Hours, brought to you by the Pure KNF Foundation for January 7th, 2024. We made it into January. We made it to 2024. Pretty fantastic, if you ask me. And so, yeah, welcome to the office hours. And let's start today. Start off 2024, our first gathering here, with a bit of higher wisdom, as always. People like consistency. At least I do.

6:32 You know, always the same. So, today's is pih. Hey, some good folks here. Which is standstill and or stagnation. In times of stagnation, attend to your attitude. It is an unavoidable fact of life that inferior influences sometimes prevail. Improperly motivated people ascend to power. There is injustice and conflict and poverty. and spiritual life in general descends into darkness and decay.

7:19 While these times are inevitable, and the arrival of this hexagram indicates that this is such a time, this does not mean we have to stagnate personally as well. By turning inward and realigning ourselves with proper principles, we initiate the return to light, truth, light, truth, and progress. The image of Pi is of heaven moving away from earth. When this happens, the inferior qualities in ourselves and others come to the surface and seek expression.

8:09 It is unlikely now you can affect what others do or say or that your activities will bear much fruit. While it is natural to feel anxious and disappointed about this state of affairs, it is essential to disengage from these inferior emotions now. To indulge them is to abandon your superior self and plunge into a state of disintegration. it is wise now to accept that external progress is unlikely turn your attention inward and examine

8:57 your own thoughts and attitudes for inferior influences and departures from the principles of the sage. By withdrawing into solitude and refining your higher nature, you continue to grow while all else around you stagnates. Sweet. It's a good one to start the year off with. and it's kind of like that so welcome glad you're here hopefully if you are stagnating as well that you can find solace and at least that wisdom that perhaps you

9:45 can turn yourself into a better person while everything else seems to be as it is and just accept that. So cool. Cool. Cool. Well, we got at least we got some good folks here showing up consistently. It's amazing to see you guys. We got Mark in the house and he has some questions about some GMOs and things and then Rainbow Possum Farm. What's up, Washington? Good to see happy 2024 to you too we got cheryl in idaho i know you know that's that's great i'm glad what's up cheryl glad you're out and about it must be cold is up there right now a bit idaho

10:39 man i lived in montana for a while i know how cold it gets um although yeah it's january it's It's probably the coldest part of the year. I always remember like January 16th, right around then, is the most cold part of the year up there. It's where your car won't even start. And we got Eyewitness down in Florida. He ain't cold. I mean, maybe he's chilly, but he ain't cold. And Stone Mason, what's up, Indiana? Yo. and yeah it's good good to see you guys stowed a bunch snowed a bunch but yeah yeah it's good to see to see

11:27 Thomas is sweating oh it's good to see the community good to see you know what we got going here just snowed here you know yep you know actually actually there is snow still here. It hasn't snowed recently, but it snowed, what, November? December? I don't know. It snowed, maybe it wasn't December. It snowed here, and there's still snow. It's not right here, but 13 miles that way, 13,000 feet up in the air, almost 14,000 feet in the air, there is snow. So even though, you know, here I am in Hawaii, there's snow on the ground real near.

12:13 13 miles up the hill. So, yeah, I don't think we're expecting any snow. I hope not because that means it's going to be more rain. And my class, my class starts next week. Oh, my gosh. We've got some good folks coming in. Got two folks coming from Portland. Got folks coming from Kona. Folks coming from Kau. Ooh, folks coming from right across the river. It's going to be a good, good course coming up. I got to start getting ready for it this week. Get all the preps, get all the things so we can make all the solutions. Do everything from zero to finish.

12:58 And also do some teacher training and get folks certified so they can be good teachers with good accreditation and good things. from the pure knf so looking forward to another batch of good folks coming through speaking of that thomas i did not send you the picture yet oh but all those things i always remember and uh yeah and also big shout out to heather and last week i was like what and i kind of stalling the names but it's good oh and stonemason's gonna go snowboarding awesome i still have a burton snowboard in my

13:42 like i have a house very similar to this house and it's up there in my attic there's a burton snowboard and some drake bindings i should probably sell those and or give them away because i don't think i'm gonna go snowboarding again anytime soon but who knows who knows um hopefully you sharpened your edge so you can carve those sick carves or maybe it's powder who knows oh ski this the cold smoke of bozeman oh i just stagnated tweak my neck i have no idea how that just happened um but wanted to get into it with you guys um well we'll start with mark's

14:29 question here before we get into what I had. Um, but he's asking, um, well, first off he's wishing everyone an Epic 24 and I hope so. I hope so. But he just heard that they're genetically modifying soil microbes. Anybody else catch when, when does this catch wind of this, catch wind of this, anyone else catch wind of this um well just so you know um they've been genetically microbes for a long time soil microbes um i you know they don't even know uh what soil microbes

15:15 are out there like of the amount of microbes there are they know maybe a small sliver percentage 1%, 2%? I mean, 2% if we're arrogant, 1% if we're arrogant, probably 0%, you know, close, it could round down to 0% if we were more humble of how many soil microbes we can identify, family, classify. We don't even know that much about the microbes from, you know, they're polymorphic, meaning they can take many shapes based on the environment. So you think you're seeing one microbe, but then maybe you're seeing the same one just changed. And the microbial world,

15:59 because it's so small, it's mysterious. And so first off, let's just start with that as a basis of if they're GMOing these soil microbes, they haven't even identified them to know vast majority of where they are. So they're not, um, you know, they're not modifying them to any appreciable degree. Um, but however, uh, you know, one of the most genetically modified microbes out there is E. coli. I'm pretty sure I'm correct on that. I don't know. We could, we could, uh, you could, someone, someone out there could fact check me, but, but E. coli has

16:38 been, um, modified since forever. They modify it. They'll often, um, like, like a lot of the insulin that's produced out there. I think like, um, you know, people, people inject insulin when they got diabetes and, um, and the, um, and that's produced by E. coli's. And so the GMO, the E. coli, They splice this stuff in, and then instead of crapping out whatever it craps out, it craps out insulin. And then they bottle that up and sell it to folks to inject into them. And they make a bunch of different antibiotics this way by GMOing bacterias, mostly E. coli.

17:28 Because E. coli is one of the most well-known, well-studied families of microbes. because it's so easy to culture in anaerobic lab conditions. So that, you know, when you GMO things, it has to grow well in a lab because you have to do these things. You have to see it. And when you're genetically modifying those things, and then that brings me up to the second bit of that, which is, you know, the GMO technology. Like, just because I GMO one thing and then I put it in nature, it doesn't mean it's going to take over nature. Nature, similar to like when they bioengineered that virus, when was it?

18:14 2020? They put it out there and they thought it was going to be a worldwide pandemic and people are going to die in the streets. And it turned out to be mostly just existing on the news. I mean, not to say that it wasn't in the world, but it did not turn into like a drop dead pandemic type of thing where tons of people were dying. Some people died, mostly old people, mostly unhealthy people. But, you know, they made him, you know, so they and that was done through GMO into like viruses. So it's not the same as like GMOing a a bacteria.

18:54 but you know um and you can fact check me on that too and sample as shit but whatever um doesn't matter uh but those things um you know like when you put into the real world it doesn't always perform the way you think it would um and furthermore um bacterias are constantly doing horizontal gene transfer, meaning they're swapping their DNA out and putting it into other organisms and they're pulling their DNA out of other organisms into them. So technically they're also kind of GMOing, genetically modifying themselves on a fairly regular basis. And so if I inject

19:40 certain genes into certain thing, then it may swap or push those things in and out and do those things. And, um, yeah, let me, you know, so whether my GMOs are going to stick or not is, is a different thing, you know? Um, so genetic modification in soil bacteria, I would not be that worried about, um, because it, when it gets to the real world, the soil microbiome, if it's not strong, it's going to have its butt kicked in nature. And the other point I bring up about GMOs is that your DNA is like this complex spiral thing

20:26 that's spiral within a spiral within a spiral. It's like a lot of rainbow gathering people sing about this, you know, sacred circle turn into a spiral. Take me home, right? But, you know, as those things spiral around, they're not actually genetically modifying in a fractal basis. They're like just stripping it out into a line and saying, I'm going to replace this chunk. But there's a bunch of error checking and fractal checking, like harmonics, throughout the DNA. And if you modify this part but not the other parts in correct harmonic waves, then your GMO is not going to stick.

21:08 and it's going to decay and the natural biome is going to eliminate that air, that poison, that pollution that you've put into the biome because you didn't put it in in a natural manner. So GMOs have multiple problems against them, multiple things going against them. But also So on the GMO story, that's one thing that I learned from Elaine Ingham was that they were, somebody was GMOing some bacteria to digest corn stalks left over that they could just spray this bacteria and it would dissolve all the residue and turn it into alcohol.

21:58 and they thought that it would just work on dead things. But she was like, right before the bacteria was about to be, this genetically modified bacteria was about to be released, she was like, hey, this may get nuts and attack plants that are not, what do you call, like living still and not just the dead ones. And she did a test in her lab and turns out it did. and she was like hey don't do this and then um got famous from that from you know some arrogant scientists thinking that they could they had this thing and um could put it out there and

22:38 she was like that's actually a big problem and may have ruined your entire crop um so then they after that they outlawed GMO experimentation um in mainland America and sent it all here to Hawaii and the Hawaiian islands are now the GMO experimental test bed of the world because they figured, ah, if something bad happens, we'll just, um, we'll just burn Hawaii and kill everyone. I'm not sure that's what they said, but they probably thought that, um, and that way it wouldn't get out there. So, um, so as much as I want to GMO things and pretend like that technology

23:17 is awesome. There's a lot to be known about it, and I don't think that it's something to be worried about. You're better off, like Thomas said, going with more IMO4 and doing those things. So, and yeah, so the horizontal gene transfer is what happens in IMO3 and 4 piles, sure. So when you make an IMO3 and 4 pile, you are doing a bunch of GMOing without maybe knowing it, um, and natural selection and natural reproduction and all that stuff's happening, which is why it's such a powerful process and pretty amazing. So we got two Brazilians in the

23:58 house. What's up? So, and Pedro, yo, my, uh, my dudes, my dudes, like that's what the thing is hip to say, right? Yeah. It's been so long. Good to see you, man. Hopefully your family's doing well. Always think about you. And it's good, man. It's amazing. It's like a whole year since you've been here. A lot has changed, man. So, yeah. So anyway, those GMOs, all those things. And yeah, I don't know if you'd see a bunch of gene transfer in IMO3 or IMO4. I imagine the more microbes you get together, the more you feed them, the more they are going to do these things.

24:42 Um, and, um, the other thing we were talking about the other day is the, um, the microbes, the, the endophytes, endophytes and all those things. I still think that's a great idea. And I think a lot of our GMO technology is obsolete. Um, because it's like, you think you can do it, but it's like, um, it's like saying you're going to write better Shakespeare by just inserting random sentences into it. And you lose a lot of the original bits and maybe you make it slightly better, but it's definitely different and it's

25:23 probably not the same and you're probably not going to reach the same amount of fame. So anyway, a lot of stuff wrapped up in that. um so yeah that's what makes this text so powerful is we are working with the natural biological processes to do these modifications so i always you know my friend uh steven cornett has a channel called nature is always right and i'm pretty sure he's on to something um you know so appreciate that guy and uh yeah good good fond memories of the class man i'm just about to start my next one uh actually i moved it back a week it's starting on the 13th so

26:10 six days from now i'll be doing that um and that'll be fun get that together um so um so this year this year you know last year started off and i was doing uh master cho's presentation that was fun that took up a bunch of time it was like cool to go through really a great um great series to go through i hope hope more people look back on that of course you can always find the old office hours at knfsupport.com, which let me just switch this up here. Why is that? Okay, hang on. Let's do that. And let's, why is this? Oh, my screens are messed up.

27:04 Well, let's bring this one over here. This isn't going to work very well. and let's just do this and then let's do this so you can see that so this is uh kind of support you know you can find this on the internet and you can find all the old office hours including that great show presentation including all why can't i make it smaller make it smaller so i can't let me just switch this over here so i can see what the heck i'm doing i don't know why my monitors flipped i was messing around with it the other day and they

27:45 flipped on me but yeah find all the old office hour episodes here office hours click there you see them all uh you can see this one right now we can watch our own um and all the old episodes majority of the older ones here also have table of contents with them which is beautiful so if you're looking for something specific such you know you can go here and search the office hours and search for IMO and JMS something like that and search all these and some of these need table of contents and or the table of contents is not showing because I searched two words apparently

28:29 I still bugged, but you can search JMS. Anyway, you guys know if you're long-term viewers, if you're not, smash the subscribe. I don't know, or just push it gently or whatever. It's supposed to say that, I guess, on YouTube. You can search all this. So all past episodes there, and really, you know, the good ones, Master Cho's presentations there. getting into it. So let's see here and do that back. Now I have my screen over here to look at it, but let's see. So let's swap this back because I prefer it this way. Hey, thank you,

29:17 stonemason it's always good get some donations get some super chats dropping um and appreciate that man it's always nice so what i what i wanted to do this year you know reminiscing last year of that hey how's it cecily good to see you good to good day oh cecily called me the other day just like I just tell you like you know here being um you know like my numbers out there you can find it if you look around and uh she called me from Australia and I was just like whoa and she wished me a Merry Christmas and then we ended up chatting talking story for like

30:02 what like 45 minutes half hours more than that like almost an hour and it was like so nice to hear to talk to you guys you know because here I am and I'm doing this uh but then you know chatting and actually like getting to know you a bit because otherwise it's just one way out right i'm doing these things but i really you know the people that show up here to the class i really enjoy that and then you know when you reach out send me an email send me pictures call me it's like wow it's cool it's so cool to connect um and that's just building this community it's it's been

30:36 it's been rewarding that's why i keep showing up um even though yeah the pure kf foundation also appreciates me showing up, which is good because we make this real for everybody. Um, so that's fun. Um, so just to let you know, um, yeah, so, um, well, before I get into what I was going to get into, what a couple of drops sheet, sheet truck is asking what a couple drops of LAB directly into the ear, be a good treatment for a dog that has an ear infection. Um, yeah, yeah. I would think that a few drops into the ear would help, uh, with that. I would also use some garlic oil,

31:18 perhaps, perhaps a little bit of the OHN, um, you know, dilute it a bit. Don't, don't just put that straight in there. It might, might kind of burn. Um, and, um, yeah, dilute it and put it into warm water. Like, like Mark's saying, like one, one to two 50, like he's saying, both those, the, um, yeah, the, the OHN, cause it has the garlic in it or garlic oil. You can just take, um, heat up, like heat up a little olive oil and put some crushed garlic into it and then make, take that, you know, just, just warm it up. So the oil, uh, the garlic permeates the oil and then

31:52 put a few, a few drops of that plus the LAB to keep it from reinfecting and to get in there to eat out any, um, bad, uh, you know, crap that that bacteria made in the dog's ear infection. But, you know, those two things, garlic oil or the medicine, the OHN, and the lactobacillus, which are the protectors, are great for ear infections for sure. And, in fact, if you look on KNF support, there is ear infection. Let me just type ear, though. Oh, shoot. Let me go to KNF support and type in ear. because that topic was talked about.

32:39 Dogs seem to get ear infections quite regularly. And let's see if I can find it. Potty, why is it pulling up ears and nose implants? I know you're not looking at what I'm looking at, but that's okay. I wish I could search for two words. Oh, here. Yeah, so treat. So, yeah, so it was actually on July 23rd, 2023. Let me bring this over here and then hit this like that and then like that. So here, July 23rd, 2023, this office hour here,

33:28 we're talking about treat dog's ear infection with LAB or sulfur. I guess I recommended sulfur at that time, but garlic is probably slightly better, but sulfur will definitely get it out. If it's a bad infection, sulfur would definitely deal with it. So, um, so again, it's worth searching here, July 23rd, 2023. Um, we talked about treating dogs ear infections at the 21 minute mark. So, um, yep. So, um, so another reason to check that out. Um, so what I wanted to get into here this year, something that I was teasing about last year is I wanted to get into, um,

34:17 what I call disgustingly cheap microbes or, um, Jadam is another way of talking about it. Um, and let's see here. So in my book, I wish, I wish this wasn't, um, doing this where I have to go on the same screen and do this, but here in the book, if you downloaded the book and you're able to see this. Now you're kind of getting like a multi-thing right here. It's kind of wild. I wish I had this on the other side, but in the book, in the back, you get into a section where it is three core solutions of Yongsan Cho. Cho Yongsan is what I call them. Do not taste. These

35:06 recipes may save the world as they enable anyone to create near immediate soil fertility with almost no cost hey thank you bird thank you appreciate super chats thank you yes it is good it is good keeps me functional um but you know i talk about um disgustingly cheap microbes um these are the um way i call it disgustingly cheap because it a it's disgustingly cheap meaning that it's it's so cheap. You can't even believe it. It's like disgustingly cheap, right? But it's also disgusting and it's also cheap. So it's like a super wordplay there. Um, but basically you take

35:48 water, microbes, food, minerals, put them together in this ratio and put it in a bucket and then, um, let it do its thing. And I think, uh, I had some pictures the other week, um, on what it was, and you can get further into this. This is just a one-page recipe. It's really, I should have some photos of what it looks like. But it starts off, you know, you put it in and all of a sudden it starts bubbling. It'll peak bubble and these bubbles are corresponding to this timetable here, although it's maybe not clear. And then the rings collapse at the end

36:29 and it's basically when rings are at the peak is right when your good microbes, these are, We're going to call these the worker microbes. They're at a peak here. And then your fertilizer microbes, which are like the zombie anaerobes, anaerobes are coming back up. So you want to get it when the worker microbes are out to do for soil foundation, building soil, or you can let it go longer and turn it into a fertilizer. The timetable is based on temperature. And that's what you end up with.

36:59 So this recipe here is in the book, as well as this disgustingly cheap food, which they call liquid fertilizer. And but it's a stinky but extremely affordable way to feed soil and plants. Basic, simple recipe. And and then the last one was the soap. And this recipe is really not that great. So anyway, I guess I have more work to do on the book. I always think of that. Um, and, um, so why? Um, so, um, would LAB be useful against scabies?

37:45 Maybe. Um, I would definitely use garlic against scabies and, um, sulfur against scabies for sure. those things. Um, so, so in my book, you know, I talk about Young Song Cho. He lived in this building for about a month while he was here. Um, I've taken over like 14 of his seminars. I've sat through the same seminar for, you know, which is like a one or two day seminar. Depends on, you know, how long he's there, but sat through it, uh, you know, 14 times, spent time with him fully. You know, I think I grok his system to the max. I may,

38:22 I, as an arrogant statement, understand it better than he does. In terms of he's a chemist, not a biologist, I tend to come at it with a biology sense. And I am more open to listening to other people. So when I listen, I hear more things. Some people that think they know what they're talking about shut off their ability to listen and learn. And that's something I always try to keep open no matter how well I think I know something and how foolish someone else may seem, I am always willing to at least listen, to hear, to understand, especially, you know,

38:58 one of the first questions is who do you listen to? And especially, you know, listen to pretty much everyone, but I also, you know, will incorporate what they're saying if I think they have good standing versus, you know, I'm just not going to not listen to people just because I think they're foolish. I'm still going to listen to them, but I may not heed what they're saying. I just, but I was listening. Anyway, long story short is that, um, um, I want to show you basically the roots of where these recipes came from and not just be on some high horse being like, I know all

39:33 this stuff. Cause I really don't, I am a student and I am learning all the time. And that is what makes the best, um, people is people that are always willing to learn. So in this book, one of original this is the og um master cho manual this was published prior to 2008 somewhere 2005 maybe this is this was this book came out um this is like the og book the cover i've had this book so long the cover is actually in here it fell off it is now um this here's the cover of the book it's actually ripped in half oh my gosh but i've had this thing so long that it is

40:20 well busted but if you look in here and you look in the last bit of this recipe number 17 which is here which i probably if why is my monitors messed up i wish i wish they weren't messed up today because i there's stuff i want to show you i may be able to quickly change this if you hang with me here, of that I need to, um, is it this one? I don't know if I can change this. oh you know what it's this here and

41:07 I don't want to change this live it's like oh it's so hard all right anyway I would pull up the book here as well let's see here yeah here I'll pull this up here and then I'll bring it over here. And even though I don't like this, I'm going to go for it anyway. And go for it anyway. There. So there you go. Now you're looking at the same book I'm looking at, but you're seeing a digital copy of it. There's a cover before it got ripped off and it was actually intact. But this book's been with me for a long time. So I'm going to go all the way down here to the last

41:49 recipe, which is not the ferment and mix. Oh, I guess ferment and mix compost is the last one. but you can, if you start to look at these last recipes, you see this soap water and hot pepper water. This soap water and hot pepper water are kind of the origins of the jadam, right? Because he's using soap water, which is soapy water, right? Soap is one of his recipes. He teaches you how to make soap. And then hot pepper water is also the origin of, um, his natural pesticides, right? Um, and which I don't, I pest aside, I'm not saying pesticide, um, just, just so,

42:35 you know, I'm not violating any, um, FDA rules here. Um, but these are the origins of Jadam here, starting with the, you know, soap, soap water and hot pepper water. Those are those two recipes. site. I guess I didn't talk about the herbs. And then the other one here is the origin of Jadam is this green grass liquid fertilizer. And green grass liquid fertilizer is what became, it's kind of his liquid fertilizer, which is the, you know, he calls it JLF Jadam liquid fertilizer. or I call it disgustingly cheap plant food because it's disgusting. It's cheap. But these

43:20 are the origins of Jadam. They're here in Master Cho's book. And this is when Master Cho and Young Song were working together prior to Young Song having a blowout with his dad some early time prior 2007 some 2006 maybe and they separated like a great korean drama um but in master cho's literature right here you can see here are the origins of jadam um named differently and intermixed with you know im04 let me zoom out a bit so you can see im04 lose powder um mineral liquid sea seawater, you know, so all these are master chose recipes, right? Water, water soluble potassium,

44:10 water soluble for phosphoric acid. These are, you know, Calphos, you know, food, medicine, cleanser, all those things are in this book, right? So you can see these things are here, and they're unified. However, they had a blowout. And I believe the main reason, like, you know, There's probably multiple reasons why you'd get angry at your dad and basically divorce him. But I believe a lot of that had to do with the daughter and also, why the heck can I find this? Okay, that's only one page. That's why I thought that was the end of the book.

44:53 But he also wanted to help people that were ultra cheap. and Joo Young, his daughter, wanted to make a lot of money. So Young Song wanted to help like the poor help people that can't afford natural farming and Joo Young wanted to make a lot of money. And so they had a rift and I believe they separated and, you know, they did separate, for years. And it wasn't until a trip in 2016 that we went to Korea with Dr. Park and we went with Master Cho. We were on a bus and we went to Ta-Jeon where Young Song lives and we brought

45:35 Master Cho and Young Song together. And Dr. Park's goal was to reunite father and son, you know, because he's a loving Christian, a great person, great man, love Dr. Park. And his goal was to reunite them. And so we did. And then subsequently, we brought Young Song to Master Cho and Young Sung to Hawaii in 2017 or 2016, later that year in 2016, and then introduced Jadam to the Western world because largely that stuff, like if you look at Master Cho's next recipe book, it was not, it was not, these recipes got edited out, right? Because

46:23 they're too cheap. They're too easy. You don't need, um, for a minute, mixed compost is still good. Um, that's, that's still Master Cho's recipe, but, um, but you don't need, um, you know, consultation to do the disgustingly cheap stuff. So the origins of Jadam are in this book here, which you're looking at right there. Um, but then they had a rift, right? And so they separated for years. And then Young Song kind of went out on his own path, did his own thing and really established himself. And when we reunited Master Cho and Young Song, Master Cho was just in tears.

47:00 And I actually, I have that video. If you go, you know, you click on my channel and you go check it out, you can actually see, let me, let me just, let me just pull this up. why here and pull this up it's really a bummer these things got switched it's like so hard for me to do this at the same time so here um in in my in my channel you can look and then down here scrolling down um can't have demo farms here i reckon maybe it's 2015 that we reunited them but in this one, in this playlist here, this trip, I actually was this trip. So it was 2015.

47:47 So sorry, I was a little bit, um, off on that, but this playlist, you click on this here, you come down and then here, this episode right here, cheap K and F edible pesticides, ultra low cost. This, this episode right here is the first time we went to the Jadam headquarters here and um and then watched um you know so this you know master cho hadn't seen his son for you know i don't know a decade at this point almost a decade i think something close to that and then here's here's young song explaining it here's dr park translating it um and then like a good

48:29 person i should always watch it two times but here's his solutions you know the the pesticide the soap, the herbal solution, all these things. And he was talking about all this. And then, you know, he gave us a full, what is this, 45, 50, an hour lecture that he gave to us. Maybe a little bit longer than that. I'm going to go skip to the end here, because this is the important part that I wanted to share with you, is that right at the end, so he told us this entire system, he explained the whole thing to us. And then I don't know what happened to the camera

49:02 right there, dropped it. But then here is Master Cho, and he was in the back of the classroom, just sitting there silently. And here he is being reunited with his son. He hadn't seen his son since, you know, 10 years. And this man right here brought him back together. And then here he is for the first time in like 10 years with his son. You know, this is a powerful moment. And that's his grandson, Robbie, there and reuniting the Cho family. So this was like a powerful, powerful moment, all thanks to Dr. Park. But bringing that back. And if you notice here,

49:40 you'll see it says ultra low agriculture. It's ULA. That's what Young Song had named his stuff was ultra low cost agriculture, ULA. I don't think they had fully taken the Jadam name, although did it say Jadam in the very beginning? It might have. They might have been, which means basically it's Korean for hippies or people that like nature, which is like hippies, right? So this, but here's the reunification of them back together, you know, Chayu, and then, oh, we went to the chemistry lab, but I want to go back. Did it say Jadam? Oh, it did say Jadam. So they were,

50:22 they were doing they were kind of rebranding to jadam right then but largely it's eco agri you know ecological agriculture is his main thing that he's trying to get out there and doing those things and then at this point in his um in his what he was doing is he had this book here and this is ula ultra low cost agriculture and this was his book that i was able to get on that trip and this book is all in Korean. Um, and also I'm told that this book is not very good. It's, it has a lot of good content, but it's just poorly written and not very well organized.

51:04 I can't, I don't know. I can't read it, but that's what I was told, but this is what he was branding before. And then he went and he started to put out like this pamphlet here, which this one is Jadam. And so starting to see into Jadam, and this was the booklet that he gave us while we were at that presentation to kind of go along with him, was this, which is basically all his slides from that presentation that he gave us. So it's talking about, you know, Jadam oil, the wedding agent, all these things, you know, how to make the fertilizer,

51:48 how to make all these things. So these are basically his slides that he shared during that presentation. And this book, you know, even talks about his dad, there's his dad, he mentions him. But he also, then when he talks about his dad, he's like, well, you know, I mean, I'm sure when he's there, he's a bit nicer, but he's usually like, his stuff sucks, just do this. And it's like, well, stuff's actually really cool. And what you're doing is for a different audience, for a different thing, and probably not food safe.

52:16 So, you know, there's a lot of merits to the Jadam system and to what's happening. But there's also, you know, learning Master Cho's recipes and understanding Korean natural farming, both of these, and how they both are Korean natural farming. Most people are like, that's Jadam, this is KNF. It's like, no, KNF is a superset that contains all these farmings of Master Cho's methods and Jadam's methods. Jadam's methods are just cheap ways of doing Master Cho's methods because they're accomplishing the same thing. One is just cost you pennies. The other is like, it's the difference

52:51 between, you know, Ferrari and a Toyota truck. Sometimes the Toyota truck works. Sometimes the Ferrari is good. It depends on who your audience is, how much money you want to make, who you're selling to all these things so which path to travel depends on you and your audience and your situation but jadam was developed for extremely impoverished folks and that's what it is so so from this book you know well well basically from this book the original recipe book to this book which was the ultra low cost agriculture and many of my certificates that

53:29 I got from them actually say ULA or they changed like ultra low agriculture. It's ultra low cost agriculture. Um, I only have like one or two certificates. They say Jadam, they didn't fully finish their brand change. Um, but ULA Korea, right. To this book, which is a presentation of the slides finally getting to oh getting to this book here which is the jadam organic fertilizer and this here is the korean edition so i figured i would hold up the korean edition however this book is really well written and you will understand why it is so well written

54:14 when you understand that Ray Yoon, one of the wizards of the world, translated it and made it really good. So this one, I don't, you know, he helped to basically, what do you call it? When you help someone like edit it, edit it. He's an editor of this one and helped it to be more clear, but he really shone shined when he did this one here which this is the English translation so you know many people have this book you can you can actually find it on um Jeff Jeff Bezos website but this is the English edition so again talking about you know like the soaps um the um

55:01 the fertilizers and the microbes, you know, looking and then just crop theory, right? Soil management, all these things. And so, but really, you know, here's the book, it's this thick. When you can look at this book, it's this thin. And basically, you know, the origins are in here. And if you look at these books and you look at these recipes, that's really all you need. A bunch of this stuff is just verbose. So you can learn about it. And there's a lot of words in there that may or may not be necessary, but you know, you got to make a thick enough book. So people think they're getting value

55:41 and there's a lot of stuff in here, but you know, you can really go back to the origins and it's all contained in here. Um, and you know, and, and, and then it went through all these iterations after decades to, to come and to be, um, you know, applicable. And that's, you know, basically I'm kind of going through, you know, the history, how the heck did this get to us? How do we get this ultra low cost way? Why do I call it disgustingly cheap? Mainly because I was upset at young song cho because he can, he can be a fiery guy. He's a dragon. And you know, if you,

56:20 if you step on a dragon wrong, man. And I'm also, I also have, you know, the Chinese sign of dragon in my deal. So two dragons are either their best friends or their worst enemies. And it's like, and so, you know, a lot of times I'm his good friend, sometimes I'm his worst enemy. And lately we're on a good path, good foundation. I love him, his family. And, you know, regardless of differences, it's like, I think at this point I'm just, you know, and be friendly regardless. I'm still going to call this stuff disgustingly cheap because it is

56:52 multiple word plays into that of why it works and really understanding the English mind and putting those things in. And I also call it disgustingly cheap because I'm somewhat trying to discourage people from using it because I think that learning master chose methods and getting those are like the better, but not everyone can, um, can do that. And it's depends on your, you know, how much money you have, what resources you have. And he cuts out a lot of the cruft that Master Cho says, you know, like medicine and all this. He's like, you don't need that.

57:24 Fermentation with sugar, you don't need that. Do you need it? Yeah. If you fully, truly understand what's going on, the exudates, the endophytes, the plant secondary metabolites, all these things that putrefaction without using sugar does not contain. So when you truly understand the recipes, sugar makes sense, right? And Master Cho's methods make a lot of sense. They're just not cheap. They're just not, but comparatively to like conventional egg, they're extremely affordable, but it's not as affordable as just water and dirt, right? Water and dirt's like next to free,

58:05 And that's what you get with Young Song Cho here is like, essentially, it's like, you're going to spend your most money on a sprayer. The rest is like buckets and just rotting things. And you're getting the rest just, you know, free. So, essentially, it's free agriculture. Whereas, Master Cho is like extremely cheap, extremely effective, and more effective if you can get there. um so i always you know people ask about this stuff i get you know get into the the jadam what is it you know what are those things it's it can trace its roots all the way back to

58:44 green grass liquid fertilizer to hot pepper water to soapy water and all of those things are in the original book but what jadam has done well is they brought this to the world here is even the Japanese edition. So they went, they translated it. I think it is in Spanish. I don't know if it's in Portuguese, but Young Sang Cho was like, yeah, I'm going to make some money too, not by charging people for consultation and for things, but just writing a good book and charging people to buy a good book. And to me, it's a better, higher philosophy than what

59:28 Ju Young was after, which was just like hamstring the books, make them worse so that people have to call you for consultation so that they're, and you never fully give them the information so that they are always having to reach out to you and always having to get stuff from you. And that's why, that's the way she tried to monetize it. Like, like for instance, if you, if you read into some of the, the information, there's like, you know, the minerals, right? mineral ABCD. And you can't just make those. They don't just open source the recipe.

59:59 They actually are like, well, you got to call, you got to buy, you got to consult, you know, only our customers can have this. And I find that way of making business was just really bad, really, really bad of, and that's, that's why, you know, she eventually peaced out, moved to Spain, haven't heard from her since. That's probably why Master Cho and Yungsong are back together. You know, once Grimmel Wormtongue is gone, then the king returns, and then they actually can advance natural farming. Although I do believe that, you know, there's some

1:00:36 suppression of Master Cho, especially in the last few years, especially now, where you can't even get in contact with him, and it's because his family is preventing him. And I do believe a bit of that is in the jealousy of wanting to make, like, Jadam the new thing to replace the, you know, my, yeah, my, my dad, you know, master Cho presented stuff, but we're better. And it's like, bro, just let it go. You guys are back in the same book and the OG thing, like reunify, understand that his thing has a place and it's a really great place. Your thing has a place and

1:01:07 it's a really great place. And together you're going to be even more powerful, but you know, what, what can I do here in Hawaii? Um, besides, you know, and I, and I'm unable to return to Korea at this point, it's like, bro, you know, like I would love to go back there with Dr. Park and sit down with Young Song and Master Cho and be like, look, guys, let's let's let's work this out. You know, let's let's let's actually spread natural farming to the world. And so that's what here I'm doing is since I've had these great teachers, since I've spent so much time with

1:01:40 them, I'm trying to just take what I know, put it out there, office hours, bring it to you, build a community, teach teachers, show them all these things. If you tuned into this office hour, you know more about the origins of Jidam than anyone else probably. Because I've lived it, I've been there. I was there, you know, I wasn't there when Young Sung and Master Cho were together originally, but I met him right after that when he was with Ju Young, when they were doing the thing. I went to their, you know, first advanced training in the United States, got teacher

1:02:13 certified 2011, you know, been just practicing and practicing and practicing and doing this made it my life's mission. Cause I really care about the ocean. Um, and you know, and so, and then spent time with young song, spent time with Ray, spent time with Sona, Ju Young, um, uh, Sun Young, Robbie, you know, they're my core, my core homies, you know, maybe not Ju Young, But, um, but these folks, you know, so I just, you know, there's a lot of confusion out there. A lot of people probably won't see this, won't tune in. They don't take the time.

1:02:52 So, but you can be an emissary that can point them here to say, Hey, look, you didn't want the history to go here. And I am as close to a primary source as you can get. I mean, I'm not obviously them, so I'm not the source, but, uh, I guess maybe it's a secondary source. I don't know, but I've been there. I've lived it. I've seen it. Um, I actually probably, you know, I have young songs, uh, kit his, when he brought it here, when we first brought them here in 2017, um, you know, I did a huge, uh, huge, um, what do you call like propaganda campaign to promote him to get in. And I even,

1:03:34 I rent the first time we had young song come, I thought he was going to be so popular that I rented the civic center in, in Hilo and it can seat like 400 people and about 250 people ended up showing up. And it's like, you know, got them an audience of like 250 people by promoting them and just talking about how he had to cure for fire ants and stuff. And it's like, yeah, I mean, I kind of, you know, you gotta be a little superfluous when you want people to come out to something, you gotta be like, this is the greatest. It'll be something life-changing. And

1:04:04 It is, but it's also super simple. And if you look at it, you'll find the origins way back in the day. And it's all one. It's all Korean natural farming. And the proof that it's all one when people are like, Jadam's different than KNF, is no, it's not. It's all in this book. This is the oldest book, and this is the most unifying book. And so anyone that's like, it's different, is probably doesn't have a copy of this or doesn't realize the significance of this book is that that's the grand unifying theory. It's all right here. It all has the same roots. It's

1:04:41 all K and F, you know, which, which is a terrible name. We need to rebrand that of the name, but it's here, right? So all the whingers can whinge, cry, whatever, but there it is. That's the truth. That's the, uh, you know, it's the proof it's right there. You know, facts, facts don't matter. It's just opinions and beliefs. So I hope my opinion and my belief become your opinion, your belief, and the mind control is complete. No, whatever. Do, do what you want. Make your own thoughts up. Um, as long as they're, you know, the ones I've given to you. Oh, anyway. So, um,

1:05:19 that's, that's what I wanted to get into today. You know, I think maybe, maybe as we go on, I can go over the recipes a bit, spend some time doing that. I wanted to give you a foundation of, you know, showing who and what and why. And if you look at, um, my book here, um, now I'm gonna oh shoot I'm gonna put oh why I'm gonna pull it up here just quick um the book here if you look at the book when I talk about my sources for learning here's my lineage I always mention Master Cho I always mention Dr. Park Kim John these are these are the cores but then

1:06:03 Young Song Cho right and Gil and they Gil and Young Song Cho basically came to the same conclusions he was in the Philippines, he was in Korea, and Ray and these folks decided the ultimate ultra low agriculture was the way that really inexpensive stuff. But it's all all this is one deal. All these folks are in the same lineage doing the same thing. And, you know, if there's one thing I'm trying to do, it's trying to unify a community, you know, build something great and do things well. So I know there's some questions here and I didn't get to them. I'm over time.

1:06:47 I just go through these, I guess, quickly before I'm out here. And by quickly, I usually end up talking a whole bunch because I like to answer thoroughly. So let's just go over these thoroughly. um so let's see here um in urban water how do we mitigate fluoride um i don't know don't drink your your water um run it through a carbon filter i think carbon filters will pull out fluoride hopefully i'm not sure someone fact check me on that one um okay IMO1 collections are now alerted word files very sloppy equal parts sugar your IMO2 should be a slurry

1:07:33 once you mix it with sugar so that's correct um hit the like button to boost the signal yeah sure um uh okay and she made it with she had to actually, Cecily had to moisten her IMO collection. Cool. That's good. Um, and the stinky stuff. Yeah. The barrels everywhere. You know, if you're going to start somewhere, I recommend you start with, um, young songs, ultra cheap, you know, green grass, liquid fertilizer, those things before trying to go into IMO four anyway. Um, and Thomas is saying he wishes he could go to Korea to meet them. What an opportunity I had. Yes. Right time, right place,

1:08:17 right amount, right things. God bless. I don't know how I was able to do it, but I video recorded it. So if you want to go on the same trip I went on, just watch those videos. I basically just ran it and didn't edit it and just kept those things going. So if you want to go to Korea, check out my YouTube channel and just explore those trips because I've been there and I share it and it's there, right? So hit it. Um, you know, and you can always super thanks those things. You can say thanks and put money on those things. And I get it. And I appreciate that because if you went there,

1:08:47 it's a lot cheaper than going there is just watching the videos. Anyway, I don't want to bitch too much about money, but I have new kind of converts just learning the entire system. Love it. The Jadam book. Yeah, start there. And the OHN for personal care. Absolutely. Great idea. Great way to start, Cecily. Highly recommend that. and talking about the simplicity what about the Hawaiian OHN you made with just garlic turmeric ginger it's actually from gil karang dang is the garlic and ginger the turmeric adding that's just something I talked about there's multiple reasons for using turmeric

1:09:24 but I can get into that later it's not as you know more complex um yep so if you're poor use can't use the jenom methods the knf of the jenom lineage and um um how long will a nutrient mix and la be with water and stay good after mixing if i kept it in the fridge probably i'll probably a long time um uh you keep it in the fridge i would imagine that last a week, perhaps a month. I don't know. Um, your nose, nose, smell it. If it smells good, go for it. It smells like it's putrefying. It's putrefied, you know, then you got to understand

1:10:06 the difference between aerobic and putrefaction or fermentation, putrefaction, what's happening in there. Putrefaction isn't always the best. So toss it. Um, you must have a large fridge. my friends are very small um yep and if yeah i know the the um the turmeric ginger garlic are 40 kilos each in western australia it's lucky you only need one kilo and once you make it you're gonna get five gallons of stuff so it may be worth the cost and have a great time teaching the course george man i wish you were here i wish you would have asked for the money you needed

1:10:39 because we might have been able to help you but um and i haven't replied back to your email but It's okay. Next time, I think maybe we'll set up some crowdfunding for you. Make sure you get here for the next class. My wife and I were talking about it and it's like, man, if he can make it out anytime this year, we'll just teach you a class whenever you can get here. So think about it, do it, get out here. Love to get you out here because then you could be in Latvia and helping all those folks even better. I know you're already doing it, helping folks, but even better.

1:11:10 So, and then turmeric ginger, yep, yep, lucky to be in the tropics, so for sure. More, if I don't like, okay, you know the point before the clay soils, I'm pointing out to the, clay soils, go to knfsupport.com and search for clay in the office hours. I've probably talked about clay a whole bunch. So just search clay on KNF support in where it says search the office hour videos. Just type clay in there. You'll probably find it. And then I wanted to let you guys know, since you guys took the time to stay this long, you must like KNF.

1:11:55 There is something available to you right now that is here. if I go here and go to this at pureknf.com or excuse me, pureknf.org. I think .com also redirects there. If it doesn't, it should. But you can now go and get a membership. So we now have a possibility for folks to join, to become associate members, which means that you can associate with each other. And that's the whole point is we are trying to provide, uh, you know, an association for folks that are genuinely interested. And right now, really your main

1:12:42 benefit is you get access to these four micro documentaries, um, showcasing the wonders of indigenous microbes. There are more member benefits to come right now. Uh, we suggest that you sign up for $120 a year because that's $10 a month that goes to helping us actually develop this out further. Things that are in the pipeline are monthly meeting, membership cards, community forum, maps to help you identify each other, and a page so you can help advertise the things you're doing. Those are all in the pipeline. They're not mentioned here as benefits because I can't

1:13:25 put a timeline on them yet, but we're working on this. I've been working on this for over a year with the Certification and Membership Committee through the Pure KNF Foundation, but you can become an associate member. We suggest $120. At a minimum, $60, which is $5 a month, is the minimum cost we can offer this at the current time. But you could also join for $2,000 a month if you are some sort of baller and that type of money coming in would help us even further to make this thing. We really need to expand and hire another person to help with everything going on.

1:14:06 Otherwise, it ends up being into our committees and we are a very small team working to provide this. But once you start to join and we get associate members and we get some of this flowing, we get the energy going, then more of this can happen. So right now, I believe this all works. If for some reason it doesn't work, email me drake at purekingandaff.org. But you can put all this in, you can join, you can become a member. Here's, you know, terms of service, some things that you got to agree to. Basically, it's like, you know, we're not liable. We don't, you know,

1:14:43 We want to do these things, provide these services, what you're getting. But this is a way that you can join. Once you are there, let me just quickly go here and do this. I'm going to go here and log in. You can see here's my membership details, all these things. I'm an associate member. But once you are a member, going into the micro documentaries, these are available to you. here's the four micro documentaries that we have um we built we made these with the foundation in 2020 they're great films um and if you are interested in watching them you know like here's

1:15:25 here's logan's one i know someone the other day was interested my overall goal with with cannabis at this point i've been doing it for 20 years and uh you know right here the same tent legend legend logan talking to us naturally grown products talking about the goods part of the ecosystem, you know, and bring in all this. So that's, that's what we have right now available is these micro documentaries, these things available for you, um, and more things to come. But if you're interested, you want to do this, you want to get into it. Uh, that's the backend.

1:15:57 I don't really want to go to the backend right now. Um, so obviously I get to see a little bit more than everyone else, but here, you know, joining, becoming an associate member, um, and doing that. Uh, so if you, if you made it this far into, um, the office hours, you're probably interested in that. Um, and you know, if hopefully 60, you can afford $60, uh, a year, uh, it's $5 a month. It's there. It's pure knf.org. I'll put it right here right now. Pure knf.org. um that's the the foundation's website um and uh hopefully to bring you a whole bunch more

1:16:42 especially if once we get momentum going there um it costs a fair amount to hire the web developer to do this and to get everything together and once we can get these things up and going um you know and we can then get some operational money come in and we can make things better and we've been trying our best. We've been putting out the office hours for over two years as a pure KNF foundation. Big thanks to them. Big thanks for this overtime here. Um, and at this present moment, you cannot join with a monthly payment. I'm sorry. Uh, it's actually written into our bylaws

1:17:19 that you need to pay annually and that you need to pay the full dues. So it is a bylaw issue. and then it's also hard to, anyway, there's multiple issues why you can't pay monthly right now. So if you're thinking about paying monthly, just start putting that $5 a month away and next year join and or the $10 a month or the $200 a month away. That way when you join, you can do it. Um, either that or crowdfund from somebody or, you know, I don't know, um, you know, 60 bucks. Um, yeah, uh, I don't know. Um, with inflation and everything that what that's like, you know, two things and groceries

1:18:07 at the store. I don't, I don't know. I'm not saying like forego eating twice, but, um, you know, take, uh, PayPal is not accepted at the current moment. Uh, it goes through Stripe, uh, is our payment processor. So you do need a credit card to do it. Uh, we could maybe like anytime, anytime more features are asked for like PayPal, I will note it down, but, um, it takes us a fair amount of time to do this because it's, it's an organization. There's a whole lot of things. There's a whole board. There's a committee. The committee mainly does it, but the board, there's all kinds of things.

1:18:40 So especially when it gets to financial, we have to be careful on these things, but we do have a system set up that way. And there's a way through PayPal to actually create a credit card. And then from that credit card, you can sign up through our Stripe. So you can use PayPal to do it. We just don't have PayPal as a payment processor, primarily because also I don't like Peter Thiel and the whole Palantir and all that stuff too, which, you know, when we're thinking of who we're going to work with, you know, who you are and what you're doing is also important to us.

1:19:13 and we don't want to work with sketchy folks like Peter Thiel and the whole PayPal team, which are sketchy as all get out. So if you're using PayPal or eBay or the Midyard Network, I mean, I guess you could say Jeff Bezos is also sketchy and I still work with him, but, um, you know, integrity is key. So, um, anyway, um, yeah, one and a half kilograms of garlic or ginger in Western Australia. Yeah. So grow some garlic or grow some ginger, sell that stuff and make a commitment to joining. And, um, that's, um, so anyway,

1:19:54 if you made it this long, we're 15 minutes over. I got some things I got to do today. I'm sure you do too, but I want to appreciate you for tuning in. Thank you. If you become a member, that's great. We can build this. We can get this momentum. I really appreciate it. Um, and the other thing that I'm thinking of actually for this is that we may be able to have gift certificates, meaning that if you are a baller, shot caller, 20 inch blade on the Impala, then you can maybe buy a gift certificate for someone else to join. So we may have a pool of people that are really,

1:20:27 really in need that can't afford $5 a month that can get those things. But really just go and tell someone, hey, I'm going to help you out and go over to their house and contract for $60 to spray some microbes, use the Jadam stuff, make it cheap, do it, be an entrepreneur, don't fall into poverty consciousness that you can't afford things, go out and make it, you've got the tools, you've got the things, or tell someone I'm going to teach you this stuff for this much money, and be an entrepreneur, make the money, do it, you can do it, we can do it

1:21:00 together, even with stagnation it feels like maybe the outside world's hard, make yourself better, use these skills earn that money make that make that skrill that uh cheddar i think that's what it's called in the modern world yeah cheddar um so anyway your ginger doesn't grow well grow it in bags i'll give you another tip on how to grow ginger really easily that's um what i talked to steve about while he was here because he was also complaining about it but thank you pedro i will send the word on to suz and all that love you guys thank you the world's longest outro i think

1:21:35 I'm always guilty of that. But I'm out. I'm going to switch to this screen right over there and see you later. Aloha. We'll go with a slide out of here. Ready? Bye. Love you. Bye.