120-Acre Land Restoration, IMO4 Rates, Cheap Microbe Recipe
After the I Ching reading on peace, Drake reads a listener email from German in Mexico, who has 120 acres, half forest and half meadow, wrecked by decades of tilling and chemical grain farming. Drake walks through turning it around: pick a bottom-line cash crop first (wild blackberries, apple cider and vinegar), then drench the land with the cheap microbe recipe, five gallons of water, a half cup of rich soil, a half cup of boiled potato, and five tablespoons of salt, to make fifty gallons of solution, backed by IMO4 at roughly 1,300 pounds per acre and biochar.
He covers turning crop waste into inputs: ferment fruit and plant scraps with brown sugar for a plant juice, then turn the leftover pulp into vinegar. For German's rundown chicken coop, he recommends ensiling feed onsite, moving birds in a pastured chicken wagon with IMO4 sprayed ahead of it, and trapping predators hard at the perimeter. He explains IMO4 (adapted IMO, for soil foundation) versus IMO5 (fermented mixed compost, for feeding plants once they're growing), and recommends bubbling IMO into a liquid tea for treating large acreage fast.
Other topics: where to mulch pine around a tree (at the drip line, not the trunk), how microbes mine sand, silt, and clay for minerals once fed soil solution, using a machine and tarps for a one-time groundbreaking before going no-till, and using seawater and calcium with a chisel plow to help flocculate hardpan soil.
Listener questions cover East Coast KNF instructor recommendations (Mike Hobbs in Pennsylvania, Aaron Englander in Maine), whether IMO4 soil foundation can cure bacterial wilt, and foliar spraying all the way through flowering using the KNF growth-cycle chart. Drake closes with updates on remote certification and the Pure KNF Foundation archive at knfsupport.com.
Questions answered
- 23:32 How do I restore 120 exploited acres, half forest half meadow, back to health? — Get a bottom line crop first, then drench the whole property with the cheap microbe recipe and build with IMO4 and biochar.
- 33:20 What do I do with crop waste from cash crops like apples and blackberries? — Ferment fruit and plant waste with brown sugar into a plant juice, then turn the leftover pulp into vinegar.
- 34:06 My chicken coop has a concrete floor, bad protection, and no production. How do I fix it? — Ferment or ensile feed onsite, move chickens in a pastured wagon spraying IMO4 ahead of it, and trap predators hard on the perimeter.
- 43:03 How much IMO4 should I apply per acre? — About 1,300 pounds per acre; his 800 pounds is close to right for a 0.75-acre blackberry patch.
- 44:37 When is a good time to apply IMO4 before planting a blackberry orchard? — Spread IMO4 on the bare ground and water it in with soil solution before laying cardboard, corn straw, and pine needles on top.
- 46:09 Should I add IMO5 instead of IMO4 to enrich the soil? — No, use IMO4 to build soil foundation first; save IMO5, fermented mixed compost, for after the plants sprout and start growing.
- 47:39 Is it better to make liquid IMO for large-scale acreage? — Yes, bubble IMO with maintenance solution and LAB into a liquid tea so it covers ground fast on a big property.
- 49:18 When is the best time to transplant berries, before or after the rainy season? — Plant right before the rains start so the soil foundation work lines up with the moisture the transplants need.
- 58:51 Do you foliar spray all the way through flowering, and which formulas? — Yes, foliar spray straight through flowering, matching the formula to the plant's stage on the KNF growth-cycle chart.
- 1:02:00 Would juniper wood work in a deep litter, no-smell pig pen floor? — Use big juniper logs for the bottom two-foot layer, but don't shred juniper into the top wood-chip layer, its resin is too strong.
- 1:03:29 Do microbes really mine sand, silt, and clay for minerals? — Yes, IMO4 fed with soil solution cracks sand, silt, and clay apart over time and releases the minerals inside.
- 1:06:59 Is it okay to do a mild groundbreaking with a machine and tarps before going no-till? — Yes, break the ground once to shape beds, then come right back with IMO4 and mulch and stay no-till from there on.
- 1:11:26 Are there any KNF instructors on the East Coast? — Check out Mike Hobbs in Pennsylvania and Aaron Englander up in Maine.
- 1:14:13 Can IMO4 soil foundation cure soil affected by bacterial wilt? — It won't guarantee elimination, but feeding the soil with LAB and IMO4 brings it back into balance so the wilt stops causing damage.
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In this episode
- 0:00 Intro and Welcome
- 1:49 I Ching Reading: Tài / Peace
- 3:37 Cho Philosophy: Sun, Water, Wind
- 7:23 Converting 120 Wasted Acres to KNF
- 11:56 Every Farm Needs a Bottom Line
- 17:22 KNF E-Book and Crop Waste Ferments
- 18:49 KNF Chickens: Feed, Wagon, Predators
- 21:38 Cheap Microbe Recipe for 120 Acres
- 24:06 Nine Vital KNF Solutions Explained
- 28:03 Prepping Soil for a Blackberry Orchard
- 30:30 IMO4 vs IMO5 for Building Soil
- 32:11 Liquid IMO for Large-Scale Use
- 36:16 Paddock Grazing and Manure with IMO
- 44:05 Foliar Feeding Through Flowering
- 47:52 IMOs Mining Sand, Silt, Clay for Minerals
- 51:12 No-Till Ground Breaking with Tarps
- 53:06 Chisel Plow, Seawater, and Calcium
- 55:18 East Coast KNF Instructor Directory
- 59:03 Curing Bacterial Wilt with IMO4
- 1:00:53 Pure KNF Foundation and Archive
Transcript
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16:30 Bye. Hey, okay.
17:15 Hey, always good to be live here. And thanks for joining in this Sunday with me here, KNF Office Hours. And so I wanted to start this Sunday here with a reading from the I Ching. So today's message is peace. And it says that heaven exists on earth for those who maintain correct thoughts and actions. This hexagram signifies a time similar to spring. There's a strong flow of energy and harmony and prosperity.
18:03 And harmony and prosperity are the rewards of those who correctly balance their higher and lower natures. It is by remaining aware of our inferior self while ensuring the superior self governs our conduct that we arrive in a state of peace. See yourself as a young tree now. The ground around you is fertile. Sun and water and wind are plentiful. By maintaining your focus on moving upward toward light, clarity, and purity, you can reach great heights. If you become entangled in inferior things, you will not enjoy the full benefit of this gracious hour.
18:49 Stay balanced, innocent, and correct, and good fortune is assured. oh i like that one that one's uh to me so so related to natural farming so often um we get tied up in all the things we're trying to do for the plant by balancing this nutrient or that nutrient, um, you know, trying to just do so much. Hey Tyler, how's it? Thank you. Good to see you, man. And, um, I, I think that when, you know, you go listen to master Cho and he starts his lecture on natural farming, he doesn't just immediately dive into the solutions. He's not
19:41 just like immediately like, Hey, here's, um, you know, here's, here's, you know, acronyms start throwing at you. Uh, he starts by talking about wind, um, water and what's the other one? Wind, water and soil, but it's not, it's, um, sun. Yeah. Sun, water, and wind are plentiful. right so the last thing we think about is the soil or most often when we do natural farming we think about the soil but oftentimes he's talking about you know does your plant have access to good sun uh does it have airflow you know same same with our pigs is air flowing
20:27 through the pig pen and you know it's it's these elements that he that he starts with and good, good water, you know, are you using hard water, soft water? What kind of things are you using to mix your ingredients? What's up, grow pro? Thank you. Good to see you guys this morning. But yeah, so he, he starts with the elements, you know, air, the three elements of air and the energy coming down and all these things. So if you watch, uh, master chose natural farming videos that are available on my channel um you can see how he starts these things and it's the
21:05 similar to the i-ching you know if you got the basics and then you reach towards the light and you do that um really focusing on the frequency and care and then you know learning korean natural farming getting into the solutions understanding again how those elements affect your fermentations all of these things. It's just these repeating cycles again and again of these natural forces coming into fruition for us. So I, let's see here, I'm getting this chat together, see if I can shrink that down. What's up from Indiana? Good to see you guys here with the
21:47 the K&F family gathering. It's kind of nice. Sorry, last week I missed my live. I just, after teaching all that prior week and then everything, I just kind of spaced it out of, man, it's tiring teaching a whole week at K&F. But yeah, so anyway, what I wanted to do here today with the, um, with the office hour and question is I got a really, since there's no questions in the chat right now, I got a really interesting, um, email. And in fact, I get, I get emails like this a lot, um, where what I'm, what I'm reading is, you know, let me, let me,
22:39 actually let me just dive into this question let me just switch this this mode here so you can see what I'm looking at and is my video in there hang on one sec and let me get this thing set up well okay well I'm not gonna have a video over it or no here I gotta just turn it on okay okay there let me transition over to this so now you can see what I'm looking at here and so um I got this question here um from a guy in Mexico German German and he's um you know this
23:26 this is like a classic story of like I've I've been doing things conventionally I've burned out my land and I want to bring it back to life and I want to restore the environment. And where do I start? What do I do? You know, I've learned some things on the internet and how do I get into it? So TLDR, you know, um, that's basically, I'm going to go through this email and answer those questions and see if by going through this scenario, which is a direct scenario of, of, you know, okay, here I got these solutions. How do I apply them? Let's get into it. So
24:05 there's 120 acres of land with mild weather, half forest, half meadow. My purpose is to convert as much as I can to KNF. The plan has been exploited, or this place has been exploited with bad agricultural practices through many years. Mainly the meadowlands were used to produce grains, such as corn, oats, and lots of tilling and chemicals have deteriorated the soil, turning it into wasteland. Only the rocks and sand remain. Okay. So like exploitive agriculture, basically, you know, like we, we think we're doing agriculture,
24:52 We're producing food, but really we're kind of juicing the land. We're burning out this food. We're mining the nutrients in the form of food. You know, talk about California, the central plain. They think they've been mending it with chemicals and such, but they're really like burning out the organic matter, burning out the carbon, burning out the humus, right? This is what's happening all over the world, okay? And he says, no organic matter is left. No organic matter, no life in the soil, okay? right because you've burned it out with chemicals you've got this great production but however you
25:25 um like now the soil is totaled right this is the the you know the the result of the green revolution like if you practice chemical agriculture on land for about 30 years you can see these uh things where production was going way up as they added chemicals to this living soil but after 30 years of use of those technologies brought out in the green revolution all of a sudden the fertilizer costs become exponential going up and the production just falls off. And so it costs more money to put the same output. And this is like the story everywhere,
25:59 right? So because you burned off your organic matter using these petrochemical salt-based fertilizers. Yeah. Shout out to the people growing the sacred medicine. And so, okay, so there are also some animals in the ranch, sheep, chickens, ducks, and horses, which in my opinion are in bad condition also. Okay. So if you have sick soil, you have sick plants, you have sick animals, which leads to sick humans. Like Master Cho talks about this. This is where do you got to start? Well, you know, you got to start, you can eat healthier food,
26:40 but you got to actually grow healthier soil and grow healthier food in healthier soil, which then leads to healthier plants, which then leads to healthier animals, which then, you know, on healthier microbes, which then leads to healthier humans. So in essence, when he's looking at this, also, I'm betting that the condition of the people living there is bad as well. Yeah. Okay. Story of, you know, 2020, 2021, let's move on to 2022 into the year of the tiger starting up, getting rid of the year of the ox. Oh, that was a heavy burden to carry, I tell you.
27:15 But let's prance here. So all I have, I have all the hope in my heart to bring it back to life and make it sustain itself with pure KNF. Dynamite. Yeah. Oh, excuse me. Okay. So if you got hope and you got that, then the second thing you're going to need is some education. So I have some ideas to produce high value crops and products. Okay, so blackberries. We have a wild variety in the forest which produces really tasty berries, much better
28:00 taste than any commercial ones I've tasted. We have already started to propagate via cuttings And with 0.75 acres, 3,000 plants, and scale it up gradually, the plant has begun propagating naturally for many years and has adapted to climate, height, soil, etc. Okay, so A, I want to, before I get into all these three points he has here, I want to point out the fact that, yeah, one thing you're thinking here is I have some ideas to produce high value crops and products. And I believe every farm, hit that there, every farm has to have
28:39 a bottom line. So if you're looking at this and you're saying, okay, well, I want to rejuvenate this 120 acres and I want to turn it into a pure KNF, you know, functioning farm. You got to think about your bottom line, which is what is your cash crop and how are you going to take the items you're producing out of your farm, which is like kind of like printing your own money. And what are you going to grow to strategically get that to the market in your area or where you can turn that into things you need? So I think thinking there, thinking with a budget, thinking
29:17 with a spreadsheet, putting this into numbers, calculating out how many gallons you need of the solutions to farm successfully on a frequency that meets your cost analysis? And what crops are you going to put in to meet your market and make money on that? For me here in Hawaii, I think the answer is kava. excuse me and and i give that that out kind of freely like i think if more we need more hawaiian kava produced everywhere and i don't think you could flood the market too hard or or you know having locally
30:06 produced korean natural farming grown um ava or any crop basically um you know is is what people want to want to have, you know, even maybe growing some coffee and sending it to to Tyler in Oklahoma. And if you're there, check out his coffee shop. It's a great place in Oklahoma City. Check in with Tyler. But so having the bottom line, getting that together, I think with blackberries, what he's mentioning here, you know, one thing you got to check your market. You got to one thing, you know, sometimes the wild blackberries don't pack as well and store
30:43 as well. Sometimes, you know, it's, it's hard to, um, get that to your customer, but however, blackberries, if you have access to a freezer is something that could be easily fresh frozen, thrown into a freezer bag and shipped worldwide. And people, you know, all over the world, they're buying, you know, they'd love to buy fresh frozen, um, Korean natural farming blackberries, I'd imagine. So opening it up to like a global market of freezing or making these berries available, you know, if, you know, if they're perishable, getting them to your customer in a
31:18 way that they would make it work. If they're sweet and they grow great and they're already adapted for climate, it's just like, you know, using what's already indigenous, like what most people would consider like Himalayan blackberry, a weed, but taking that and saying, okay, well, I'm going to actually harvest these berries and fresh freeze them and make a market or even turn them into a plant juice. So having vines like this, I think you can even set up a permaculture system, which the next thing he mentions here is apple cider. So he has an apple orchard that's two and a half acres
31:56 and he has considerable yield, but the market doesn't like to eat that kind of apple just because it's not as pretty as the other varieties, yet it is great in flavor and healthier. So my idea is to produce apple cider and some apple vinegar as well. We'll still have to acquire the machinery to process the great amount of fruits. So yeah, two and a half acres of going maybe. Yes, similar. But it sounds like between these two things, if you can find the market, you now have these two things where you can start to create
32:40 these ferments. And from there, you have enough fertilizer to, to remediate the rest of your 120 acres. And if you thought of it to, um, increase these cash crops, feed these plant juices to each other, um, synergistically spray each other with the ferments and the vinegars and the fruit juices, and, you know, KNF foods and all those things, you can do that. And if you're wondering what those are and you want to, since I'm here, all these recipes that I'm talking about I have in my e-book here. You can find the videos online, but in my e-book that you can download
33:26 from the KNF support website, there's all these recipes of like, so you got crop waste, what do you do? Well, if you want to remediate 120 acres, you got to take these things and start to ferment them in. And so one of the things is to take a, you know, take your plant material, your fruit material, brown sugar, and a mixing bucket, mix those together, pack them into some sort of fermentation vessel. Maybe if in your case, this might be like a, um, like a 35 gallon trash can, 55 gallon drum that you could kind of fill up and then somehow, uh, get it. So you can
34:06 pour off the juice and take the rest of your leftover apples and sugar, and then turn that into a vinegar, which is the can of cleanser. Now, now you've gotten both these products out of your apples. You've gotten this amazing food here from your apples, and then the leftover waste becomes the vinegar. And so now that's something you can spray and put out there, and you've now got those resources immediately. So he's saying on the farm, he also has eggs, and the chicken coop has many issues. It has a concrete floor and bad protection from wild animals. They've
34:52 been attacked multiple times and there's only two chickens, one rooster. They're only fed with cracked corn. Of course, no production. There's an open area next to it where we can establish a new home for 250 chickens with a soil floor and well protected. I already have the designing of most the materials can we use the old chicken coop to store supplies and food and so taking taking this your other production and then turning that by via fermentation and silage into your chicken's food from this and maybe even using part of these chickens as a pastured system in a chicken wagon
35:35 to start to restore these areas. You know, if you're having trouble with predators, I recommend trapping on the perimeters out and to, you know, preventatively keep the predators from coming in. Trying to protect them, in my case, I can't from the mongoose. I really have to have like almost a human safe house. If I try to do them out in the field, they chirp and the mongoose come in and kill. So I have to trap really aggressively. at a big perimeter to keep the mongoose away. But once you have the chickens, if they're doing tilling for you in a chicken wagon type of thing,
36:15 the key with the chicken wagon is if I'm going to move the chicken wagon is right where I'm going to put it, spread IMO4 and put the soil foundation solution, then drag your chicken wagon two days later, three days later over that space. Or if you're doing it daily, least just keep spreading the IMO and the IMO4 and the maintenance solution or the soil solution out in front of this area, you're going to move this chicken pen behind. Because what that does is it helps that soil to the microbes come alive, which then invites worms. And if you're in rocky,
36:53 sandy soil, there may not be worms there right now, but those worms will return as those microbes create food, then the chickens are there eating those worms, pooping, creating more a rich system. So if you are dragging a chicken wagon around, put the, you know, spray that area in front where you're going to bring the, um, the chicken wagon next. Um, so, and, and yeah, also ferment the chickens feed or yeah, and put an IMO four into there. Um, and then he says, these are my three main ideas, yet the possibilities are still endless. And so one thing I want to say is that
37:37 if you're trying to do 120 acres, you're going to need to probably do, um, this recipe here, which is the, the, um, disgustingly cheap microbes and just taking, um, five gallons of water a half cup of rich soil, um, half cup of boiled potato and five tablespoons of salt. You can make 50 gallons of solution to spread all of these microbes, which propagate over, um, as, as the time goes at 12 hours, more microbes are growing as at 24 hours, a bunch, 36 hours, a whole bunch, and then they collapse down and then it turns into more of a fertilizer.
38:21 so if you take this recipe and just very quickly put the starch the microbes and the salt and the water together and then dilute further into um into water you can make 50 gallons really easily and this is something you can drench on that land that that's out there um it you know if you have a whole meadow area that needs a whole bunch of treatment it's like this this is the recipe you want to use and get in there. Even treating a lawn, a yard. If you do this recipe, you know, three, four times and really, really drench that area, the microbes will start to come back and
39:00 start to build that sand and silt. And as you plant other things, organic matter will accumulate and, you know, throwing some biochar, of course, is going to hugely help you out there. so from the beginning his goal is to produce 100% organic then he discovered KNF and he instantly fell in love with the methodology and practices and he's sure this is the right way to do it I'm pretty sure too you know it's just an alignment with nature it's KNF is just refinement of what's naturally happening and emulating and bringing that to life
39:37 he's mainly seen my videos and some other guys on the internet and he's already made some knf inputs such as and then he lists all these acronyms and so if you do get the book and you guys then all guys that are veterans here know what it is that there's basically nine solutions and and there are there are more than this in natural farming but these are the nine vital solutions that are giving you all the tools you need to build all the soil foundation, bring this whole property back to life, um, restore his whole biome, make it.
40:14 So it's in three years from now, um, German, German, German was his German. Yeah. He's going to, to have just the most immaculate farm that he's going to say, wow, this is rich. His soil is going to be rich. His plants are going to be rich. His animals are going to be rich. and he's the humans will be rich and these are the nine tools to help you get there and um so he lists a bunch of these in his email here and he says hey i had but he says all the acronyms right which makes it hard to understand how to apply this stuff because now now you got all these
40:50 acronyms well what do i do with it well take those acronyms here and put it to these words here and be like microbes protectors food cleanser medicine structure fuel reproduction minerals and now all those words like okay something's sick my my animals he's saying you know that horses don't look so good maybe they need a bit of medicine you know maybe they need some some food in their food or some food in their food or some fuel you know and all light dilutions don't you know consult your vet or whatever you know don't um don't kill your animals but we have
41:24 recommendations for livestock as well as plants and, um, take these solutions and, you know, here, here he's saying he's, he's made some of these. So let's, let's jump back to see what, what he has here. And he's saying he's made these things from, from LAB FPJ vinegar from the apples and the other fruits remaining of my FPJ, FFJ, uh, FAA, OHN. I use cinnamon, garlic, ginger, and couldn't get the ingredients, so I added some antipathogenic and medicinal plants. Not sure if that's wrong to do. No, it's not. Use what's indigenous to you. Follow the practices. Understand
42:01 why you're using certain things, but that's good. Sea salt. No access to the oceans. And you can make fulvic acid from the worm bin. Perfect. Really good ideas. I have a lot of eggshells. Yes, awesome. bones and coconut shells to make calcium coconut shells i don't know if you can make calcium from coconut shells but bones you can um or calcium well the eggshells are what actually makes calcium oh oh oh and biochar okay okay never mind i didn't read the full sentence he's making yeah anyways making reproduction bones and coconut shells good and then i he has some other
42:43 sunflowers to make water-soluble phosphorus. And he's made IMO 1 through 4. Awesome. Man, you sound super experienced. You just need the application. So that's what I guess today's video is about. I don't know if, you know, shout out if you've made any of these solutions and really have gone through it this much faith into it, but maybe it's the names of understanding how these things are applied and hopefully today's episode helps you get into that. Um, so, okay. So, and he was thinking, uh, okay. And he has 800 pounds of IMO four currently. So if you have 800
43:27 pounds, that's, um, it's 1300 pounds per acre. So if you're thinking of, you want to treat your, blueberry area, which I think you said was 0.75 acres, that would be probably about perfect to put that down under the rose. So let's, so I think he's going to get into some, some ways. Okay. So, so let's, he's going to get into how to, to prepare the soil. So this, this next question is one of my questions about blackberries is how to prepare the soil. I want to convert the meadowlands into a blackberry orchard in particular their particularly area of the land
44:14 that has to recover from the bad practices maybe eight years there are currently perennial grasses and annual weeds i don't really want to till and cause more damage i was thinking of laying layering cardboard corn straw and pine needles to suppress weeds and grasses and plant my berries after that okay so all that all that sounds okay and then he asks when is it a good time to add the IMO4 so if you're gonna take the IMO4 here and he wants to convert meadowlands into a blackberry orchard so and there's currently perennial grasses and annual weeds and he doesn't want to till to
44:58 cause more damage so before you layer the cardboard put down your imo4 so your imo4 is directly in contact with the soil or your rocks and sand if that's all you have and right against the ground layer or in this case i guess it would be on top of the the grasses and weeds it just and put that down and if you can so put the IMO and then put the cardboard on top of that so it's in that layer if that grass and weeds decomposes with the IMO there it'd be great and but do the soil foundation right then like water that stuff in don't just put it and then
45:41 smother it with the cardboard because the cardboard will prevent the liquids from penetrating down to feed the IMOs to kickstart them to give them the food and liquid and and soil solution they need so So scatter the IMO, put the water on your soil solution to feed your microbes those liquids, and then put the cardboard down, then cover it with your corn straw and pine needles if you're wanting to. But putting that thick layer of cardboard down enough to really suppress the area would work, especially where you're going to put your berries. And then he's saying,
46:21 should I add IMO5 instead of IMO4 to enrich the nutrients in the soil? The answer is no. IMO4, in Master Cho's terminology, IMO4 is what we call adapted IMO. So it's adapted to your soil. It's ready to go into your soil. IMO5 is fermented mixed compost. And when you have a baby and you're trying to get the soil, fermented mixed compost is like this buffet of things. It's like eating a hamburger when you're a baby. And so IMO, IMO four is, is not as enriched. It's more of just the soil microbes themselves that go in. So you don't want to put IMO five as something
47:09 to build soil foundation. When you want to use IMO five or fermented mixed compost is after your blueberries are starting to sprout after the soils come alive after those or blackberries are starting to grow and and then that's when you want to amend when they're starting to go into a growth stage that's when you can put an IMO5 and an IMO5 is actually really effective right when your plant right as it goes through right before its puberty and transition phase as it goes through supplementing with something that's enriched like a fermented mixed compost at that time versus trying to amend
47:44 in the beginning with a compost. So hopefully that makes sense. So don't use IMO4 when you're building soil foundation, not IMO5. And does IMO5 inoculate good microbes in the soil as IMO4? So I kind of just answered that question there. Is it better to make liquid IMO for a large scale? And I would absolutely say yes. I recommend it to make those cheap microbes in the book here. you know these these cheap microbes on this page are the way this is a liquid imo this is absolutely if you're going to do 120 acres um you got to be doing liquids and and you know putting this
48:30 water and life and you know letting the air get in there and into your soil all these things bring that balance in um so liquid imo and and even taking your your imo and adding it to um this the for this formula right here which is the same formula for making your imo3 is is maintenance solution plus lab plus c or actually let me let me go to this this is a a better way of showing it here is adding this soil formula and, and some IMOs and bubbling this in a tea. So adding these across this, um, and, and bubbling that make a liquid IMO. Um,
49:18 and when is the best time for transplanting the berries raining season before or after I would say, I mean, if I was to plant them, I would want to plant them right when it's going to, right before it starts raining. That way also, you know, you can build your soil foundation in that time. You can really get into the field and plant them, keep the moisture there, put biochar down in the rows where you want it to retain moisture around your plants. You know, really think about that. And I wanted to have great soil before planting my berries. So I have a couple
49:54 months to prepare while my berries are rooting and sprouting. Okay. So yeah, definitely get your soil foundation in ahead of time. One thing that could happen to you is weeds will start to grow in your area that you're preparing so early ahead. So try to plant some sort of beneficial ground cover as well and, you know, irrigate it regularly so that you can keep those microbes alive and continue to feed the soil solution on a regular interval while you're trying to build this soil. The longer you can put those, you know, you put the microbes out and then you feed them on
50:35 a regular basis while you're building your soil foundation with that cardboard, with the mulch on top, with those microbes in contact with your soil and getting moist, that's what's going to bring your, um, your, your soil to life, you know? Um, so, and then he's saying, um, if I have success with these three ideas, we will keep the ranch going for many years to come and convert 120 acres into a K and F paradise. So if you're in Mexico and you want to reach out to German, maybe, maybe reach out to him, see, um, if you can help work together and make,
51:13 make this happen that would be amazing you know i hope the whole earth eventually is a is a korean natural farming paradise um just the the microbes master chose knowledge this these putting these things into practice understanding what they do hopefully you've you've learned here of how to take these concepts put them into practice um you know what to do from his example here. You know, I've been doing something similar here in Hawaii, permaculture, Korean natural farming combined. So he's saying, I'm still learning. I couldn't
51:49 be more excited about this. I see this as a life's project and put all my effort into it. That's why I've reached out to you, asking you respectfully to help me and be my mentor and to convert hundreds of acres into natural farming the way it should be, benefiting the whole planet. And, oh, thank you. And here's some pictures of his ranch here. You know, this area right here, he has some animals grazing. If you start to paddock these animals out and put them into intensive grazing versus letting them roam out here,
52:21 you can really start to improve, concentrate their manure, put the IMOs. They'll really mow down an area, then move them to the next sector, move them to the next sector, and spray before you're moving these guys. If you have that ability or just start to put a little electric fence around them, that's a big beginning to restoring this, using these animals to rebuild this land in tandem with putting that cheap microbe solution out here, make a huge barrel of that, dump it over, you know, put 20 trash cans out here, fill them all up, have them ferment,
52:55 then fill them with water, dump them over, start restoring this whole piece of land, you know, So that's, if you're serious about it and you have the money and you have the funds and you want to do it and you want to start to advance your blueberries into this area, you know, that's, and you want to maintain or make your livestock grass better, the pastures better. This is the way to do it. Some people are talking about using radishes. Oh, look, here's this IMO collection. I would say that looks like a really good job to me. Yeah, I would A plus that one.
53:29 oh look at those luscious berries imagine if these were frozen sent to you and you receive these and you could make the most delicious smoothie oh hungry just thinking about it is this this is like a chicken pen no some sort of maybe pig pen i don't know looks like a nice place i would love if i didn't live in hawaii i'd probably live down here in mexico hang out eat tacos all day. Ooh, look, mycelium in his IMOs. So yeah, this looks okay. That looks good. Good soil microbes. Pines. Pines will probably be compatible with your blueberries. I wouldn't
54:10 mulch pines on many other things, but I think they might be compatible. I'd try it in a small area, do two tests and see which works better. Mulching pine around a tree like that, I'd scoot it a little bit away and then right here I would put all put your IMO4 sprinkle it all in here do about a um uh not a maybe half a five gallon bucket maybe maybe a third of a five gallon bucket around a tree of IMO4 sprinkled under here then put the mulch then water it intensely with your soils prep solution and this whole area will come to life and it's even better to do it right
54:48 here to put your mulch instead of mulching right here I know you might mulch right there for weed control or something but actually where the tree wants to eat is actually under its drip line out here so instead of right here mulching it's better I mean this might be better for you or you know not to mow so close or whatever but the tree actually wants to eat right in this sector right on the outside here you see where the grass kind of changes like even though you're mowing here see the grass changes from here to there like this is bacteria and then the trees roots and
55:19 things are here in this zone out here coming around and this is where it wants the mulch is actually right in this zone right here if I put the mulch and I start putting IMO4 there and I and I water that stuff in really drench it that's right where the root tips are so if you're mulching in here it's probably for like maintenance reasons but it's best to mulch out here okay so on orchards and all those things oh okay okay that that was quite a marathon with um German there to go and go through all that but I hope I hope that was helpful here as an
56:01 office hour to see his question there and to know um but I want to jump back over here to our live chat and just scroll back up. I want to thank, um, Tyler and, uh, grow pro for kicking down some, uh, stickers and super chats and sponsoring the show. Um, also the pure K and F foundation for making this, um, uh, a sustainable thing for me and appreciate all your support out there for tuning into the channel. If anything's helped you today, um, you know, buying the book or, you know getting out and doing natural farming sharing it with your friends teaching them
56:41 holding a local workshop getting people's hands covered in sugar and plant material and exudates and juices and ferments um helping the world become a better place is what you can do to help us all all yeah so money helps but also doing it helps and it's not all about money so So I want to thank you guys for tuning in from around the world. Let's see, you guys are growing sacred medicine. That's probably one of the best cash crops to integrate in.
57:18 And if you can take a medicinal herb operation and put other plants in between and use the natural farming and spray, you probably, they say, you know, marijuana is the gateway drug. But I believe it is the gateway drug to farming and getting young people an agriculturally sound future in agriculture. Because you can plant a crop that you can, when you put these solutions on there, the plant secondary metabolites that farm in the plant are amazing. um and if you guys haven't checked it out um i just watched um steve dread's aquaponics second
58:09 aquaponics conference with dragonfly earth medicine and wanted to shout out to dem dem pure in the house uh and those guys doing the good work because they were talking all about korean natural farming how this works in their operation what they're doing um and if you're not tuned into them and what they're doing they're really cool stuff um but this stuff works and they were talking about all these plant secondary metabolites tuning in your biome to to the right resonance and frequencies and you know i felt like it was just like my homies talking to
58:51 me and really wish I'd got a chance to meet those guys when they came to the big island but maybe they'll come again soon and um you know anyway check out um that might put a link in the description description um okay yeah someone's recommending teaming with microbes totally it's the theory of korean natural farming okay and then someone's saying do you foliar spray all the way through flower girl bro saying it i found some strains evolve and some strains don't really change or get better um foliar all the way through man and and use the knf solution so if you're
59:32 looking for you know what solutions to use the which formulas to use um have a handy dandy app on the phone here and you know it has the solutions of what what to use you put in the amounts get it get it to go or it's also in the book and you can make your your own thing there of what what to use when these solutions here you know showing you what you need when maintenance formula these things and then taking a growth cycle and this chart even though it's kind of sideways let's see if I can rotate it like that so when you look at this growth chart here and
1:00:17 let's see scale it up and you take your end of your harvest here your 60 90 days put it over here and then divide it in half and say this is 30 days through 45 days somewhere than there this is when you'd flip your from going from vegetative into flowering then you're going in or actually you're and you're flowering starting to happen here so just before you're entering in as you're transitioning over then you're finishing off your plant and you can foliar spray all the way through using all these different formulas fruit leaf fruit harvest soil get all these
1:00:59 things together and understanding the nutrient flow for what you're doing. And there's a lot more intricate things than that. So also recommend you get trained by someone who's a professional at this in person that has lineage to master Cho and knows what they're doing, the taste, the smell, the feel, and make the IMO correctly. Because I really have to be there, smell it, see it, to know if it's correct or not. Pictures can sometimes be deceiving. I just saw a picture on the Facebook where this guy did it and collected IMO in a plastic Tupperware,
1:01:36 and that is not how. So, okay. So here's the mixes. You can add other things. Of course, you guys got it in the chat. Yeah, and you guys got the, you know, some things happening here in the chat. I'm glad you guys talked to each other while you're here. It's going to get a good K&F family going. Let's see. Wait here. Okay. So, hey, Justin, what's up, Justin Chappell? chapel uh justin chapel chapelle show hey uh my friend of bend oregon um you're asking um
1:02:31 would juniper would would be suitable for deep litter system um that could be used for pigs um i you know juniper is really fragrant and has a lot of that resin and sap in it i'd be i'd be careful using i think i think you could um it would last a long time as the bottom layer in a no smell pig pen you basically layer two feet of logs at the bottom and then there's about two feet of wood chips above and i wouldn't make the wood chips out of the juniper by shredding it i'd make it out of something different but if you're two feet of logs as long as you can get them juniper
1:03:05 tends to be kind of gnarled like that but as long long big segments you can put down in the bottom and even char some of that and put it in there too that'll really build a good foundation and then put your two feet of, you know, something, some other type of green waste. Maybe, you know, there's hemp herd where you're at. They grow commercial hemp herd and all kinds of, you know, stuff you can get in Bend to make that upper layer. But I would use, yeah, that. okay um would we be correct to state that the microbes mine sand silt and clay for minerals um yeah
1:03:52 yes eyewitness hey how's it um glad glad you're coming out for the class um it's gonna be fun in february looking forward to that it's almost two weeks away man hope you're ready um so sand silt clay and for minerals yes this is why when you when i'm saying how to regenerate the soil like if you got silty sandy clay if you're putting the im04 and then you're watering them with these soil solutions you're you're feeding the microbes to start to give them the nutrients like the snack packs they need to go into the wilderness to crack the sand silt and soil into
1:04:29 airspace and into things that have minerals the other component of that is usually a plant is reaching down and putting out exudates and powering this system so that's where you as a korean natural farmer have to come in and spray like the soil solution or the you know when you're spraying the leaf solution up on your plant that's coming down or you're you're spraying something else to mimic those exudates for the first little bit of time and i say spraying i mean drenching somehow getting these foods into those microbes that are on your soil and if you can get that
1:05:00 water with those nutrients into the top inch quarter inch of area those those microbes that you put down are going to start mining into that sand sultans clay and that's the whole idea is get them get the im04 the ones that are tuned to transform your soil and then start feeding them and they start to get that soil to life and then as that layer starts to build and build and build after a couple of years, you'll have substantial soil. And as those roots now reach down and plug into that mycelial matrix, they start to, um, you know, build organic matter and build your soil and
1:05:36 build everything up. And then they plug into the microbes and feed them. And they become what you were doing as a, as someone to kickstart the system by putting these K and F solutions out, by following this, um, formula to, to bring out and spray and put the nutrients to the land. then the root system takes over and does what you were doing it starts to have the plants fall and ferment it starts to make vinegar it starts to have these exudates and all these natural compounds that that nature produces to defend itself and and as that system becomes healthier and healthier
1:06:09 and as you spray it to help it along and and really concentrate on growing the mycelia and feeding the microbes what it wants more than just compost tea of putting microbes out there but of of um of feeding these exudates and enzymes and things that the the plants want to eat that's or that your your microbes want to eat i mean the whole system wants to eat this food get it in there and and that's that's what brings it to life there so that's how they get the sand silt and clay to to transform and unlock and and turn into this living system um
1:06:47 Um, so Tyler says he's taking up his parents to go there is his nephew to see his parents goats. I want to finish the video. Okay. So, um, let's see. My own. Okay. Um, so Heather is saying a mild groundbreaking may be best to get started. And, um, I, I just want to testify to that of like, really, you know, do your soil work in the beginning. And if you do have to break ground, use a machine, shape beds, get things where you want them to be, you know, um, I can't even believe I'm saying this in 2022, but maybe
1:07:27 even using some plastic to keep things down and, and strategically placed, you know, I'm not advocating for like covering the world in plastic and heating up our soils, but making these systems, you know, with cardboard, all these things that we can put into place to really mildly groundbreak. I totally agree with that. like do it and as soon as you do it then come back with soil foundation like right now i just in my front yard i just i just made two really nice uh raised beds and and i destroyed the soil
1:07:58 to do it area that i've been cultivating for a couple years even grew some nice ground covers everything and i destroyed it to shape these beds but the soil life's still there especially as i come in with im04 and then i'm going to put a light layer of mulch over the area i'm going to grow on And then I'm actually going to tarp the pathways between and really focus on putting the soil solution down to bring this area back to life and to put these microbes back in. So always, you know, breaking the land a little bit to just destroy the other plants that are there, sowing your things, you know.
1:08:37 But then once you do, build the microbes from there and try to go, you know, break it once and then no-till from then on out if possible. you know, and try not to neglect things and have them cycle and build for you and build themselves up. So, um, yeah, so Heather, she, she just said to bite the bullet and deep chisel plow to break the hard pan and biology and put the plowed cracks, then cover it with weed mats of some type a few weeks, a year later. Um, Heather, I also recommend if you are going to like chisel plow
1:09:14 like that get a bunch of seawater um or you know make it from sea salt and mix in some calcium into that and and try to get that real real deep into there those those minerals will really help that once you you break it you can actually chemically help it flocculate and separate and depending on how your soil and what your soil conditions are seawater really helps to build that soil texture as well as getting some knf protectors the lacto lactic acid bacteria to go deep and after you're doing soil work like that of course you know finish up korean natural farming come in
1:09:49 with the microbes give that love back um but yeah do do what you need to do and and really you know because like i said like i started this thing out by saying you know it's about the the um the bottom line when when he's putting in the blackberries he's putting in these things you need a certain level of production to come out of your farm if you don't have that what do you you know it's korean natural farming but you know just growing great soil is great for the next generation but they're also going to need productive crops and you know parents that
1:10:23 are economically stable and can provide a good future and you know all these things that that that really matter so doing what needs to be done is always it's rule zero you know do it when you can do what needs to be done and um so heather's also saying that pigs make hella good soil in a short period of time and they push the row up along the wire and that is nice stuff so it sounds like she's using pigs to do animal tilling that's pretty epic i would i would love that um yes okay hey so uh benjamin he's saying he would love to come out and take his classes but he's on
1:11:13 the very east coast are there any knf instructors you would recommend on the east coast i'd love to come out to you but travel in hawaii is a cost um i'd recommend yeah there's there's a couple there's a couple good natural farmers out there um i check out mike hobbs and um he's he's in pennsylvania i think and then um also my friend aaron englander is out there um i think he's up in maine and then um there's yeah it's actually a lot of people on the east coast that should get a list and kind of um put a directory up that's that's kind of what we're going to do with the
1:11:54 foundation this year is get those directories out. And because there's all kinds of people that have been certified and trained and can train, but we need to develop that list so that you can find them a little bit easier. So I'm going to put in some of that infrastructure. But if you are on the East Coast and you feel qualified and want to shout out, you know, and also a lot of people have been asking me about remote certification and been working on that in terms of we have a really great learning series and book that are working in tandem together. And then from that,
1:12:28 I want to make it available to utilize myself and other people that I've trained to evaluate your solutions and, you know, certify that you're making them correctly and build this network of people that really feel confident in, you know, building the nine solutions competently, producing them getting them out to farmers tasting them testing them supporting each other you know taking information like i made today and making it common knowledge so that we're all restoring the earth and we're coming into balance with with everything we're doing
1:13:06 um is there anyone in the uk to connect with um i don't not not that i know of right now in the uk but if anyone you know if you want to come KNF farm come train yeah we got eyewitnesses coming out he's he wants to go do some training go around and teach missionaries so there's definitely work to be done if you come here and you train and then you want to be this like mobile trainer look at you know there's there's needs in the UK there's needs on the east coast there's needs everywhere so if you want to make that something you do you know hit me
1:13:42 up, come in. Um, there's, there's a couple of camping spots open for February, um, sold out of cottages right now. Um, and I don't really have any other training scheduled right now, but if you want to jump in to, to go around the world and be this person, let me know, you know, flexible can work on things. See what works, just train some folks up in Alaska. And, um, and you know, last week, if you tuned in or two weeks ago, if you tuned into the office hours, you got to see them kind of be interviewed and what they got out of the training and how it
1:14:13 worked for them. And, um, so let's see here, uh, sent a poop sample to be tested. LAB was my only issue to two different kinds. I think, I think the, my kids get me the PDF book for Christmas. won't see that until the 17th. I will get it fixed. I'm not sure what you're saying, Mackie B there, but LAB is his only issue. You know, LAB should clean up most pathogenic bacterias and all that. So it should actually be a cleaning agent. So Jeff James is asking, is it possible to cure a soil affected by bacteria wilt using IMO4 soil foundation? So Jeff, I want to
1:15:05 just say what what the function of imo4 is is to bring your soil back into balance the more you can feed it the more you can put good microbes in there you don't get like things like bacterial wilt taken off the reason there is some bacterial wilt going is something's gotten out of balance in your soil microbes something's feeding that something's making that possible and so correcting that putting the imo4 brings your soil back into balance feeding it the soil solution um once twice a week or before or one or two weeks before you plant get it like feeding that soil bringing it
1:15:44 to life putting these liquids in to penetrate the top quarter inch bring the microbes in those microbes penetrate in and that bacterial wilt wherever it is you know especially if you use lactic acid bacteria it can just you know take that and arrest the fermentation of that other microbe that's thriving there so um i can't promise it'll get rid of your bacterial wilt but what it will do is bring it back into balance so that the bacterial wilt is not causing trouble for you we had a similar thing here we had a fusarium which is a fungal kind of thing that
1:16:20 gets into a ginger and even though the fusarium was present the roots weren't um suffering from it so there it's possible to have it be in balance if that makes sense it's not a it's not an elimination type of thing will it get rid of it but it's more like will it come into balance so um i want to thank you guys if um you know if you've made it this far we got uh we got the Pure KNF Foundation. Thanks. Thanks to those guys for sponsoring this. That's at pureknf.org. And then you can find all of these and more at knfsupport.com. All of these office hours,
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1:18:27 But just want to thank you guys for coming today. Thank you for the support, contributions, all those great things. I want to wish you a happy Chinese New Year. looking forward to the tiger prancing around getting the ox getting the weight off our shoulders getting back to the basics of farming traveling maybe spreading more knf let's see this thing go viral or not that let's see this thing go anti-viral oh it's up to me it's up to you okay well thanks long live the natural farmer aloha