Substituting Grains in IMO, JADAM Pest Kit, Seed IMO Timing

3:00 Hello. Hey, welcome to Korean Natural Farming Office Hours for February 18th, 2024. I'm Drake, and this is the Office Hours, where we do an hour of Korean Natural Farming, where you can ask any question and live every week, Sunday, 9 a.m. Hawaiian Standard Time. and I'll try and answer those questions and otherwise just cover more natural farming stuff in depth. So welcome. We got people tuning in from all over the world and what a cool community to be building and to be part of. Sponsored by Pure KNF Foundation and our members, which you can become

3:49 one too. So there you go. It's my, uh, it's my intro. I think I'm getting better at it. Um, but before we get into everything and more, um, we'll start with a bit of higher wisdom. So today, today, today, today is stagnation or standstill. And it says in times of stagnation, attend to your attitude. It is an unavoidable fact of life that inferior influences sometimes prevail. Improperly motivated people ascend to power. There's injustice and poverty and conflict and spiritual life in general descends into darkness and decay. While these difficult times

4:41 are inevitable, and the arrival of this hexagram indicates that this is such a time, this does not mean we have to stagnate personally as well. By turning inward and realigning ourselves with proper principles, we initiate a return to light, truth, and progress. the image of p is that of heaven moving away from the earth when this happens inferior qualities in ourselves and in others come to the surface and seek expression it is unlikely now that you can affect what others do and say or that your activities will bear much fruit well it is

5:33 natural to feel anxious and disappointed about the state of affairs. It is essential to disengage from those inferior emotions now. To indulge in them is to abandon your superior self and plunge into a state of disintegration. What is wise now is to accept that external progress is unlikely. Turn your attention inward and examine your own thoughts and attitudes for inferior influences and departures from the principles of the sage. By withdrawing into solitude and refining your higher nature, you can continue to grow

6:22 while all else around you stagnates. So, interesting stagnation today. You know, I feel pretty good. But, you know, I don't know. I was talking with my wife yesterday about how just I Ching is always so right on, hard-hitting truth. I was like, has it ever lied to you? And she's like, no. It's like me either. So, we don't know. What's up? We'll see what's in store. but um yeah we got uh man we got stonemason coming from indiana what's up everybody we got oklahoma in the house creative soil what's up man uh we got western australia cecily

7:08 are one of our members i think yeah members if you're a member shout out you're a member and um western virginia checking in yo portugal ecuador kansas oh my gosh we are we got jake voss in the house he shared the other day with us about that um evil west from western virginia saying download the app well i in fact since you're mentioning that i got i got something here and let's see let me let me get this up here um launch xcode here i got uh i i fixed i fixed my other app the other day um i also have a moon moon app in addition to the can f solution app

7:52 we got uh we got cheryl coming in from idaho what's up cheryl good to see you thank you um goofman yes yes yes all the way from new york upstate and um yeah um stonemason's been doing bokashi compost in his basement this winter and made some excellent soik that's awesome and then he also made soil we got paul from behol philippines yo um uh mumbai no what is the column mumbai no I'm not sure exactly. And member and remember, yeah. Yeah. What's up, Sal? Coming in from Brazil.

8:39 And yeah, it's good to see y'all. So while, is Xcode loading? I wanted to show you just a little bit because one of the folks, one of our great contributing members out there was hassling me a little bit the other day, um, post up media, he was like, Hey, I got your app. I got your moon app, but the moon app, it was on functional, non-functional meaning that, um, it was broken, right? Cause software, just like anything kind of breaks, kind of build on this target. Hang on. I want to set this thing up to build for an iPhone 13 pro in the simulator here.

9:26 run this oh it's going cancel let's see okay it looks like the simulator is booting up is it yeah build succeeded attaching to the simulator and what I'm gonna do is switch over there let's see is it oh yeah there it is okay there we go. I'll transition this over. So I also, in addition to the natural farming solutions app, I also have an app for iPhone called Mahina and it's called Kahuna on Android, but I think the Android version is broken. I don't think I've agreed to their new policy documents, but I also

10:13 wrote this app here, which is a moon app. So this is like your little iPhone. I don't actually own an iPhone, but I do, I do, uh, develop apps for it. And so this, this today, today's moon is ole pau, meaning that the ole days, ole means like nothing, no ole, nothing, and pau meaning it's over, meaning like, you know, done, done with pau. So ole pau, the, the nothing is done. Um, and so today is Hawaiian planting advice is a good day for planting ulu, eggplant, string beans, squash, melons, and many other vegetables. Cultivate and prune back other plants.

10:57 So usually the ole days are, you know, don't plant things. Don't try to like do that. Let's see. Also get my mouse to come. You can see my mouse a little better. So, you know, ole days are like, don't, don't mess around, man. Just, uh, does this work? If I full screen this, what's going to happen? Yeah. Okay. There we go. Now we can just look at that. Not the source code behind, although I wish it was more. Oh, well anyway, um, made it a little bigger. And so, yeah, so all the days are usually like, don't, don't plant instead maintain. And it's, it's when the

11:34 moon, like if the earth's here, sun's here, and then the moon is spinning around every 28 days, it goes around us. When the moon is between like the sun, just pretend the sun is this, mic here, because I can only have two hands, but the earth's here and the moon is between the sun and the earth, those are not ole days. Or if it's over here and it's in line, it's not ole days but when the moon is out here or out here um half moons those are what they call ole days and those are when the cosmic forces are not in is in alignment and it's not as good

12:15 for planting so when the moon is out here and the rotation which we're just finishing that meaning that's just finishing rotating and i think it's waxing going yeah it's definitely waxing going towards a full moon right now because we're in the year of the dragon now and um as it swings around this way, then it's going to enter into like the, um, the full moon phases, which are like kind of, um, goes through a, um, a flower blooming type of thing. Um, and so as the moon's moons right here, meaning the ole days, like it just went through the ole days and it's just about to

12:50 leave that. And so the advice is you can start planting things again, but also finish pruning. Um, and then as it comes out here, now it's going to be planting, planting, planting, and then it's going to be medicine days and then it's going to come back to ole days. So pruning, pruning, pruning, then back to planting, planting, planting. And if you follow the moon throughout its 28 day phase cycle, I also have an app that can help synchronize you. It's called Mahina. It's right there. This is what you get today. And then there's also fishing advice and it says

13:18 not a good day for fishing. Tonight will be the last night for shifting currents and rough seas due to ole winds. So also when the, you know, the moon is not in alignment, the winds are much more choppy and over here, much more choppy as the moon is, you know, going around. And so the moon influences the whole seasons and all these things as well. And, um, you can also just, um, scroll left to right and see like, this is, so this was yesterday. You can see the moon is getting, um, you know more the sharp tips these are like the ole where it's kind of a 90 degree angle here

13:57 that's the what the ole so if you just look at the moon you can tell if it's an ole day or not by looking if it's a sharp like 90 degree thing here and so again it's like you know yesterday where it's more of an ole day it's saying mulching weeding and pruning are the best farming activities still considered an unproductive day and it also says rough seas continue although torch fishing near shore will be productive only in the evening. Um, and you can continue to scroll and see kind of, you see the moon phases here shifting and this is coming through. So this, um, you know, like here

14:32 was our, here was our new moon, uh, last week's episode, I think was it. And, uh, just before last week's episode and, you know, a new moon phase is, um, you know, an excellent day to plant all varieties of plant except for bananas. Don't be planting those bananas on the new moon. And starts the new lunar calendar. And that's when the sun's here and the moon is right in front between the earth and the sun. That's why you can't see it because the illumination is just hitting the backside of the moon and you can't see. You can only see one side of the moon. And

15:06 then as it rotates, it starts to come, you start to see the moon as a sliver and then it becomes thicker and thicker as it grows. But we can also look at the new moon to see, um, it says beach and reef fishing good. Women hand fish men with torch. Tide is low in the evening and the sea is rough during the day. Calm, warm night with little wind. Kapu of Ku in olden days continues through Kulua. So when the moon was right in front, you know, the tides are low in the evening, right? Because the moon also dictates the tides and the tide, you know, the sun, the new moon

15:50 always rises with the sun and the full moon always rises at sunset. Anyway, there's a whole thing about, you know, learning the moon, getting more in tune with that. But I also do have, you know, you mentioned one app and I was like, I got another app and I just fixed this app here because, you know, if you go to the simulator, I disabled dark mode for it because dark mode was messing it up. So you're only ever going to get it in light. So even if you use it at night and you have dark mode, I just, it was glitching out and I couldn't figure out how to fix it without just being like,

16:23 you know, disable dark mode. So, so that's, that's, you know, but here understanding how of use the app a little bit and, um, you know, the moon and the Hawaiian language, but I do have another app and that's, uh, you know, may as well just put that out there. It's on the iOS store and, um, app store and all those things. But anyway, you know, just, I, I, you know, I like tuning into the, uh, the moon phases and all that. And, um, it's useful. It's all, it also has a little widget. I may as well show that, I guess. Let's see here. Go back to this. Let's see.

17:01 If I go and I go to this home button, which, you know, you'd be in the home button. Where's the widget? How do I? What do you do? You hold. How do you make a plus sign at the top? And then I can search for widgets. Are there any widgets? Come on. Oh, I got to type in Mahina and then there's a widget and then I can grab these different widgets. So you can also add this widget to like your home screen or whatever. I'm going to add the bigger widget here and look at that. So now instead of this other background, I get to see this right on my,

17:38 right on my desktop. You know, the, the, is that what you call it? A desktop on the iPhone? I don't know, but, um, but you can add widgets too. So you don't, you don't actually have to pull up the app, you can just, you can also just have the widget here. And since I'm talking about it and I'm here, I also made another app just the other day, made a sausage calculator. So in addition to the KNF calculator, there's also a sausage calculator. And this will let you make sausage because we just made some amazing sausages. And it's really

18:14 about getting your proportions correct. And I'm not sure if this was well-known data, but my friend Zach showed us how, so that's why I say make it exactly the way you want. And he was talking about this, you know, he's making sausage. And so I was like, well, check this out. You can put in, like, you know, I want to make, you know, 4,000 grams, four kilos of sausage, and it'll just give you all the proportions that you need to make. Similar to the other, you know, natural farming app that I have. But, you know, cool stuff. It's always fun to make apps, make things we do in real

18:51 life better and to do those types of things. So, you know, just I was trying to make that as like a thank you for him for helping us process our pig and make amazing sausage. He was like, you know, he was like charting it out with these percentages and a calculator. And I'm like, you know, I can automate that for you with an app. So that one's not on the store yet. I'm still, um, figuring that one out, but, um, you know, if you're thinking of making sausage, uh, let me know and it might be able to get you on a test flight beta and you can help me make it

19:27 better. Um, but anyway, um, those, you know, since someone's mentioned that, I figured I would go on that tangent, but if you got any questions and you want to know more about natural farming, go for it. um like i said today uh like i said last week today we're also kind of you know going over the majab madadj madadj organic farming been covering uh jadam this year um 2024 been doing this so far and so we can go over a bit of this and i did just before the episode started i get the countdown going and then it's like there's three minutes i'm like okay i can make it back

20:06 to my house and grab the Medaj kit and we get back here. I have a few seconds, precious seconds, and then get back and there's like 30 seconds. I'm like, okay, gotta get the mic on, make sure it's all good. You know, it's always interesting running a live show. Oh, and one more thing. is that I think if you are a member of the PureKNF Foundation, which if you're not, you can go to pureknf.org. Let's see here. I'll bring this up. and uh so pure pure knf.org and um up here now in the membership um we had we have a membership

20:58 feedback form which um you know only associate members can see this so you can join and get into it but we're collecting feedback from our membership so um that's what we worked on yesterday with the membership committee to get this so that we're trying to gather some feedback to make a few things better. But also we've decided that we're going to be doing a monthly meeting with the Peer K&F Foundation. I was advocating for the second Tuesday because traditionally we've always been doing second Tuesday for natural farming club meeting and

21:40 And just natural farming in general is always second Tuesday. But don't let the second Tuesday sit in yet. Temporarily right now, we're doing the second Wednesday of the month, which means that I think that's going to be March 13th or something. Let me pull up my calendar here. I believe March. Yeah, March 13th. March 13th here. And it's going to be at 3 p.m. And instead of this where it's like a YouTube and the office hours is like me broadcasting out and you're tuning in, the monthly meeting is going to be where it's a Zoom meeting.

22:30 And so we can get our membership feedback. Instead of just chatting, typing, we can actually see you. You can be part of it. and, you know, we have time for, so the basic format that we've decided on and all this, like we've just, you know, we're going to just put something out and then if we need to change it from there, we can, which is why we're sending out membership form, you know, and polls to try and understand, you know, so we can be catered to what our membership wants. But the basic idea is

23:03 that it's going to be about an hour, maybe an hour and a half, depending on how things are going. But about the first 10 minutes is kind of foundation news, foundation updates, things that are occurring within the foundation, those types of things, any reports that we need to get out. And then the next 20 to 30 minutes would be a presentation from somebody and or an interview. So getting somebody who can talk about something. And this is why we're not exactly sure on the time because a half hour presentation can be good, can also be short. And then leaving 20

23:46 to 30 minutes at the end for questions and answers. And then, you know, and that's what we got so far, we may, we may have some sort of like, um, socialization breakout times too. Um, and unfortunately just because, you know, it's through the internet, like when I used to do it, uh, here and in person, the same, same type of format, it was two hours and the same, you know, so we'll see, we'll see what ends up being for time and all that. Trying to respect everyone's time myself. What can I commit to all these things, um, to host the

24:21 meeting. But, you know, I want to get information out and have this for our membership. So, and then these will be also, if you can't make it live, they'll be recorded and then available to membership, similar to how on the website here, you know, if you're a member, you can go here and you can see our micro documentaries. So all these micro documentaries that you have access to here, that, you know, you know, so we just want to make more offerings and make more of this community come together because through this, and we're going to continue to do the office hours. I mean,

24:57 I'm going to continue to do it as something just out to everybody as a service, but we really want to build more community, you know, with great folks here. I mean, the chat, everything that you, you know, but giving you guys more of a thing to connect to each other, the people that are really interested the people that care enough to do this. So, um, so we'll, we'll get the, you know, the timing is not obviously because it's a worldwide community. Um, the time is not always going to work for everybody, you know, 3 PM Hawaii time. I just picked that as like something that I

25:32 could do. I'm trying to think, um, you know, but we have members all around the world. So So, you know, we're flexible to those times. We can maybe schedule different times for different things. And because I really want it for everyone to be able to, you know, be part of this that is a member. And it's just, you know, when you've got a global community, you've got to pick one time for everyone to meet. And so that means if I have to wake up in the middle of the night or early in the morning to do this, that's fine with me. You know, but, you know, maybe we can rotate it through.

26:07 but we just pick 3 p.m. Hawaiian time on the second Wednesday of the month just to get things started because we got to just, you know, instead of saying, what time should we do? And everyone's like has a different time. It's like, we're just picking this to start and then we can adapt it from there and change and make it, you know, switch it up and make it better so that it works for everyone is really what, um, what I want to do. Um, so, um, so anyway, that's, uh, we, we met with the membership, uh, and certification committee and that's what we did yesterday. We

26:43 got that rolling. We got up the infrastructure in place. Um, I think we still are lining up our first speaker. Um, so if you, if you are a member, you probably got the poll, hopefully you got the poll, right? Everyone has a member thumbs up for the poll. No, why is it thumbs up think I'm anyway, um, you know, if you got it, um, maybe, um, but anyway, so, um, so those just news that way, hopefully, uh, you know, here I am talking, it's 24 minutes in, um, and three is doable in New Zealand. Cool. So yeah. Um, yep. Got the email last night. Perfect. Okay, cool.

27:21 I'm glad that's, that's working. Those things are happening. Cause, um, yeah. And so weigh in on that if you, if you want to do it, um, you know, and, um, yeah, but you got to be a member to do that. We're not, um, it's not, it's not going to be for everybody. It's just going to be for our, you know, the membership because, um, we gotta, we gotta get all those folks there. So, um, not yet. Okay. Well, we'll see, um, if you didn't get the email, um, we're figuring all that out too, and trying to automate those things. So, uh, you know, like, like put in systems instead of

27:54 like manually cutting and pasting into Gmail and hitting send. And, um, you know, we're actually going to try and put in the right infrastructure. So it's like to our members, we can send out messages and that way we can get more newsletter type of things going. But, you know, half the struggle is finding the time and the resources to do all that. So, you know, as we get more membership, we got more good, good people coming in. So, um, so anyway, I'm not complaining. I'm actually saying that it's exciting and it's good and I'm happy to see it. It's just, you know,

28:27 as you start to get something started, there's a little bit of growing pains with it and that's just the way it is. So hopefully we'll, we'll debug through those things and get, get all that going so that we can have healthy, robust mycelial internet connection and spread the word around the world and get, get, you know, reward our members for doing good things and, um, you know, encourage everyone to become a member of the Pure KNF Foundation by going to pureknf.org and signing up. Um, and you know, as, as that support comes back, when we can support you and this office hours is

29:06 brought to them by, you know, brought to you by the Pure KNF Foundation. So, um, so lots of good things. But if there's no questions here, been doing Bokashi, been doing spray, pretty good results. Yeah, yeah, cool, cool. Talking about Bokashi a little bit. It's good to see. I mean, we got a super worldwide thing tuned in here. We got New Zealand, we got Australia, got everybody in the house. It's, oh, oh, one other thing, one other thing. Before I get into the um my dad my jab my dadge um hey what's up rainbow possum yo oh does it shaka no doesn't

29:50 recognize shaka as a um i mean this is the way you shaka in hawaii but this is the way i shaka because i'm a haole um um i had a guy a guy a guy come down from saskatchewan i don't think he came directly from Saskatchewan just to see me. But, um, but I had a guy, Chris here from Saskatchewan. I'm like, can you see him? Yeah, there, this is us on the porch. If you've been here, you recognize that, that porch. Um, he came from Saskatchewan and came down. He was a farmer, farmer up there doing holistic management, doing some cattle, doing some, um, cover crop seed growing. Like

30:36 I think not only is he cover cropping his own place, he also grows the crops to seed and then harvest those to give to people to do cover crops. I believe that's what he's doing. I didn't get too much. Like I was mostly talking about what I was doing to him, what I was doing, speaking that toward him. Um, and, but we went all around the farm, got to see the holistic management, showed him what I was doing, uh, the natural farming, got to show him the drone, uh, you know, and talk about application rates, talk about different problems and solutions that he's seen. Um,

31:17 and it's always cool when someone comes from someplace else and hits me up and says, Hey, can I come visit the farm? And, uh, we're able to do that. And, you know, um, I was talking to him about, you know, how we run the Airbnb here and how it helps us finance the farm and how, you know, you got to make a farming work and my passions and the seventh generations and talking about, you know, what's the true point? Like, what are we really trying to accomplish? And showed him our dairy cow. He even milked with me. He fed my pigs with me. You know, because if you visit me

31:55 in the afternoon, those are, you're going to have to do those things with me because you got to get done. Um, and we ended up, I think he got here at two, ended up leaving at five. So he chilled for like, you know, even five 30, I don't know, chilled for three hours. He brought me coffee, which I, that was my third coffee of the day, which I'm trying to stop drinking coffee again. Cause my kidneys are going out. Um, that's not good. But, um, speaking of that, drink some of the coffee he brought me. Oh yeah.

32:29 Oh, stagnate. Yeah, no, it's good. It's good coffee. And so anyway, yeah, no, it's great. You showed Chris around the farm. Good things happening and all that. So yeah, coffee. We should grow some. Anyway, but you know, okay, we got a question here before I jump into the other thing. I would like to ask about ingredient substitution in Korean natural farming. Like the wheat bran used in IMO3. Could you use bran from other cereals such as sorghum more common in tropical climates? And the answer is yes. Yes. This is one of the major topics that

33:17 I end up discussing when I teach people here and they come to my class is how, you know, how do you make these things more available for what you need? Like, how do you make them more indigenous? We always do the original recipe because if you don't do the original recipe and you just immediately start substituting, you can run into issues because you don't, you don't know how it's supposed to be done and you're just substituting and then you don't, you know, like you don't know and then you think you know what you're doing, but you maybe don't.

33:53 So having, uh, doing it the original way, just once in a small area, just to see how it's done and to follow it correctly and to go through. I always recommend if you're a beginner is to follow the way, the original way first. However, I know that it's not available for everyone. It's not affordable for everyone. There's a bunch of other considerations that need to be made. So yeah, you can substitute other things. So one of the things I am fairly, um, you know, notorious for, I guess, is the classic wood chips and dog food. Why wood chips? Why dog food as a

34:30 substrate instead of wheat mill run or, or, um, rice mill run? Because the wood chips are giving you the, um, the texture ability. So it's not all just a thing collapsing on you. And the dog food is giving you the nitrogens, like the fats and oils and proteins that are necessary. And by combining those together, you can then have a really good microbe pile cook-off and make really good microbes with that. But I highly recommend, someone was asking last time, maybe it was sorghum they were asking about, they were asking about some sort of grain. I ended up looking it up. I don't know.

35:12 I might still have the tab open. No, it looks like I closed that tab. But they're asking about, oh, millet. Yes, yes. Rainbow Possum Farm, good memory there. Millet. And so that's another grain, right? And my recommendation to them was, yeah, use it, but make sure you crack it. You know, you can't use just the hole on there. You need to crack the hole. So however you do that, you can do it. So same with the sorghum. Make sure you crack the grain. and then make sure that you're getting enough fats and oils. And typically if you're doing a whole

35:48 grain and you're, you have a cracked whole grain, you're going to get the fats and the oils. If you're just using like a starch, you're, you're missing that. So, um, so yeah. Um, so yeah, use, use what you got at your place. Um, don't, you know, let nothing like rule zero, right? Let nothing stop you from growing, but understand what you're trying to accomplish, understand, you know, like people ask, can I use just spent brewery waste? It's like, well, the brewing process took out all your carbohydrates. So if you're going to use brewery

36:24 waste, it's the same texture, but you need to re-amend the carbohydrates in. So mixing in something with high-end carbohydrates, like potatoes, you know, instant potato mush or something. And I know it's not available everywhere, but everywhere has, you know, Everyone's eating and figuring this out. And the best things to use are waste products and figure out how to reamend those back so that you can do things properly. Like for instance, if you had brewery waste and then you were making a bunch of lactobacillus,

36:54 you could then take the curds and put that into, you know, at the right ratios into the, um, into the brewery waste. And now you got the fats and are no, wait, no, that's not a good example. Cause that's putting more fats and oils in there. And there's already fats and oils. see. And this is, this is why also, you know, it gets very complex and I have to think more about it instead of just weighing stuff. But, um, but these are the things. And if, um, and if you're curious about the, um, the dilutions about how to dilute things properly, I know goof man got you

37:26 there for the, what they are. Um, but you can also, you know, get the app, the Korean natural farming app, and you can just put in how many gallons you want. Like I'm going to make 50 gallons and calculate and it'll just give you the formulas for you. Um, but yeah, there it's, it's about, um, you know, plant juice is the can of food is typically one to 500, which would be, yeah, eight milliliters per gallon or teaspoons who measures in teaspoons. Yeah. Or a tablespoon, you know, but yeah, I just always measure everything in milliliters. It's so much easier. and doesn't have...

38:08 Oh, so one thing you got to know about the way I teach is I don't use the acronym. So I do not discriminate between a fruit juice and a plant juice. They're food, both of them, because they act the exact same way. And you have to then know the nutrition cycle to when to apply things. And fruit juice is just a... It was a mistranslation concept that came to us. And so I recommend you just combine both those acronyms into food because because that's the way it's done. And it's so the acronyms tend to be it was like a bad translation that came to us.

38:46 So just think of them as food because then you'll know how to apply them. And they're both the same. So I'm not going to say it's a bad translation. It was just like a one translation that got popular, but it doesn't necessarily lend to thinking about how to use the things. So you're better off to call it food because they're both foods and know that in the beginning, you want to do it from plant tips because that's what you're trying to go after. In the middle, you want to do it after flowering or unripe fruits.

39:15 And then towards the end, you want to make it from fruits and just follow the growth cycle through and give the food to where it's aimed. and then you're going to get the right nutrition to where you're going. So anyway, those are those things. And I talk about this all the time. So you can go to past office hour episodes at knfsupport.com or it's also linked from Pure KNF Foundation. So if you are at, you know, pureknf.org, you can go down here and visit KNF Support and then you will end up here and you will find all these things.

39:49 and I answered all these nice questions last week, and then you can find all the past Office Hour episodes, and you can search those and be like, food, and just sign all the episodes where food was talked about. Is it going to go? Maybe the search bar is not going to work for me. It'd be classic it didn't work right here, but we'll just search over here. Same thing. is it not going to work for me? Maybe it doesn't even work. Oh my gosh. Never demonstrate anything. Number one, but, um, but somehow, somehow, why did it not work anymore? Oh, anyway. Oh,

40:30 there it did work. It's just laggy. There you go. There's food, persimmon food, all these things. So, um, you know, unlimited can of food, mugwort, all these things. So anyway, I always mention these things. I know if you're a regular, you're like, I already know, but if you're brand new, there you go. Tons of resources. Plus tune in, become a member, join, join the thing and do the stuff. And also I noticed if you, if now, if you say subscribe, the YouTube thing down below goes, and then if you say like it, the other thing, when you say those things. So kind of interesting

41:07 that AI is listening to us for sure. Real time monitoring to make sure I'm not giving you misinformation or disinformation. So be satisfied that everything coming to you is truth right now. Otherwise it'd be like, and turn black and I'd be nuked off their community standards. Right. So the truth is with us. Um, so yeah. Okay. Okay. We got one more question here and then hopefully we can get to them a jab. I know I keep that till the end. It's a, it's a hook. I've been learning how to YouTube cultivate audiences.

41:41 You got to talk about what you're going to talk about before you talk about what you're going to talk about. How often, Marcus is asking, how often should I collect IMO1 annually or biannually? Does the brown sugar keep the microbes in hibernation forever? Great question. um master cho recommends collecting annually um and you can and then the cool thing about making multiple collections all the time are just you know different areas different times different times of the year is that you can combine them when you're going to make propagated imo

42:22 which master cho would call imo3 so when you're going to propagate them you can take multiple batches of your different IMOs from different jars, just like, I mean, it's in the book here. So let's pull up the book. Why, why, why, you know, I can't believe I haven't busted out the book yet, but let's go here for the, um, IMO. I know you guys can, you can't see what I'm looking at right yet, but so IMO, the seed collection, this is what you would call IMO one, but you're just, it's seed IMO. I'm retranslating these things to make it clearer. Um, because the one,

42:53 two, three, four, five makes it seem like they're sequential and they may be, but there may be not. Um, so seed IMO is a better way of thinking of it, collecting it, you know, you get it here, you get a good collection, then you go mix it with brown sugar. Does it last forever? Um, forever is a long time. Um, I'm not sure if it will last forever because at a certain point, um, things will change. I guarantee that. Um, but it will last a heck of a long time. Um, and especially if you store it in the fridge, um, and you use a breathable lid in the fridge or you

43:35 seal, seal lid in the fridge, it'll stay a long time. Um, but I recommend like if you look down here at the bottom, there are multiple collections and you can take multiple jars from different times, different years, different conditions, different things. And then you can combine those together into your propagation pile. So here's these nice little kids, Kayla and Julia mixing the IMOs and you can mix multiple of your seed IMO, which is the SIMO here, the seed IMO collection in there. And that's what gives you the power. So I always recommend like, you know, um,

44:11 collect when you think it's a good time, when you want more microbes, when you think the conditions are unique and you want those ones, or you have a new area, or you have a field that you're improving and you want to get it from your own field. The more collections you get, then you can combine them, the more they are going to breed with each other through this propagated IMO process. And then when you go to make foundation IMO, mixing in the soil and teaching these how to build soil foundation and be the foundation of IMO, those microbes you propagated in the prior step

44:46 then become that much more tuned into your soil and that much more adaptable. So more collections equals better. And the whole key is when you have time to do it, do it. And if you don't have time to do it, then you need to find time to do it. It's like the classic thing. Meditate for 15 minutes every every day if you don't have time for that meditate for two hours um yeah um so made it out of ripe fruit for a late in bloom so thanks no difference yeah yep yep yep okay how often should i collect okay we answered that set up a collection a few days ago

45:35 Mitchell's doing it. Um, trying something newish. Cool. I'm glad to see innovation in this, trying different things, getting flexible, doing the things. Um, and collections are three years old. Still make good piles, store them in the cool basement floor and totes with breathable lids and glass jars. Excellent. Um, yeah. And you know, um, yeah, that master Cho. Yeah. He says, you know, years are good, but he always also says, you know, may as well, when you're collecting one each year and mix that in, in addition to your older ones, just so they stay up to date. So

46:13 if it's time, if it's time, it's, it's, it's my dad's time. My dad's. So what I, what I wanted to do, you know, we've been going over this. I went through, started with the history of it. Last time we went over the herbal solution a little bit, right? Talked about the recipe. I got it. I got it in the new edition of the book, which I got to get out to you guys every, every week. I've been saying that for the past three weeks since I did this in January and it is, um, you know, I got to do it. Um, I just, I just got to sit down at the computer and find the time to email.

46:46 But what I wanted to share with you is this. So check this out. Oh, oh, oh my gosh. oh so when um the like this has been under my house that's pretty it's kind of it's kind of funky it's been stored under my house it's it's got enough dust on it to uh win a marathon um but it has you know the majab tag right there it also has me when i was running for mayor it has my sticker says ecology and economy drake for mayor 2016 i did not win but i probably i finished middle of the pack out of 13 candidates. I think I finished seventh or something. So not bad. Um,

47:32 you know, but, um, but I have this kit here and, um, so let's, uh, Oh God, I might, I'm gonna put it on my lap. That's super disgusting. Okay. Um, so when, when, um, you know, when like, Oh, other thing, uh, let's see here. Um, let's pull it up and, uh, um, so, um, I was, I was looking at this the other day. Uh, this is, this is the Medaj, uh, website here. And, um, and then, uh, let's just look. Oh, oh, I was looking under, um, ultra organic livestock farming. and then I was like, oh, and then I was like, oh, look, four Hawaiian farmers visit

48:21 Jadam, Korea farming. And I was like, oh, that's cool. And check it out. There's me. There's Young Song. This is when we were in Korea with Dr. Park, David Wong, Chris, and this was the farmer there, you know. So I actually made it up on their website. And there's me again. Oh, look at me. Did I have a beard there? Yeah, I did. But yeah, you can check this out. You can see we went to this chicken farm. I also have that same video on mine. And then we also went to this pig farm. This pig farm, it's okay. It's not the world's best.

49:01 I mean, they're high volume, but they're not necessarily doing the KNF to the world's best degrees. So if you do check out their website, you can see me there on theirs. I just thought that was kind of funny. Um, but if you look, the reason I went here is because the classic young song photo is like him, like a cowboy holding up his, um, his, his spraying things. Maybe, maybe it's this. I don't know. I don't know if I can even find this. Oh, um, they also have a membership thing they want to do. Uh, let's see, is this, oh, um, is there a picture of him? Oh, this was the same, uh,

49:55 the same grape thing I was talking about the other day, the same grape farm. So this, this was the same grape farm we were talking about. Um, and this is the same photos. Um, because I was there on that trip and we went around and, and there's the same, uh, oh, the Kiwi guy. Uh, I don't know if it was Kiwi guy, but anyway, I was looking for a picture of him because it's classic. Like the one, the one that I put in the book here, where is it here in the book? My, my picture of, of young song is him with the spray bottle. Like this is his classic,

50:28 like avatar is him with these spray bottles. So that's what I was getting at. And, um, um, so I'm going to open up this kit and see what's in there so first thing the first thing in the kit is he has uh you know a syringe here this one says truth on it it says top syringe manufacturing company made in India by the way but a glass syringe you know um so this is so you can dose all of your things properly there's a syringe of this size there's also a syringe of this size so this is what's in his kit this one enables you to measure between 1 and 2 milliliters and this one is 1 to 10 milliliters

51:14 so a 2 and a 10 nice syringes, they're a little bit dusty now then there's a pen and I think this is a permanent marker it is for sure so you can mark things down there is also another pen this is just a regular pen although this one has black and blue and red all in the same pen very awesome and then he has a kit or a little sticky note and so these sticky notes are um not only so you can write on them but you can use that that that marker pen to mark on them oh let's see i don't need that anymore i'm gonna go this way yeah now you can see it better

51:58 So these sticky notes and the idea with the sticky notes is you can write your dosage and different things on these and mark and just stick them right onto the plants or right next to where you're trying different things out. So you can try different blends of the herbal sides and the sulfur and the soap. And these sticky notes enable you with this pen and the different concentrations to make different concentrates. And so that's that's what's in the top of the kit. But I think there was also pH strips in there that I already vultured for a different project.

52:33 Yeah, there's pH strips and something else. Oh, and a measure. Well, let's see. So now I'm going to open. So that was just on the top of the kit. Oh, crap. I already opened it. I can't lift it up. But that was just in this little, the top, the very top of it. So now I'm going to open up the kit and see what's actually in the kit. What do you need to be your own? Oh, God. Oh, it's such a bad idea. I should have cleaned off my desk, but I have my robot there. And I shouldn't have cleaned off the desk. Okay. And or maybe I should get a different camera angle. But basically, this kit opens up.

53:16 There's multiple layers. It's very cool. Oh, and then also in addition to the sticky notes, there's also these clothespins. So as we're getting further into the kit, there's clothespins. So you can clothespin those sticky notes on. There is a measurer. This is the tape measure. And this one's in centimeters, which is nice. But I'm not sure what exactly the tape measurer was for, but, you know, you need one of those. There is also these nice pruners. You can tell I didn't really use this kit very much. I just kind of kept it intact the way he gave it to me.

53:51 because I figure this is like, you know, important stuff to keep it the way it was. But these pruners, so you can prune off any leaves, anything you needed to get rid of. Then there is a meter. What kind of meter is this? Oh, it's a thermometer. Thermometer. So you can measure the temperature of your water and or your soil, whatever you needed. There's a digital thermometer here. Oh, the pH strips still are here. I didn't, I didn't Vultrum for something else. There still are pH strips here. So you can test the pH of your water to find out if you have soft or hard water.

54:35 And, oh, well, actually, I don't know if that tells you if it's soft or hard, but you can test the pH of whatever you're using. I was told the other day, if you make really low pH, your sprays can be either more or less effective, which I thought was interesting. as well. But pH strips, very important if you're going to be doing this kind of work. Oh, this kind of went to the back. There is a, oh no, this was actually mine. This, I got some pests from somebody. So I was trying to kill a beetle. So that's what this was. But, you know, Test tube is always good to have.

55:16 And then there is a flashlight. Does it only flash? Oh, literal. Oh, there we go. Right, so if you need to see the bugs, you can just strobe light them and knock them out that way. Or turn it on. I don't know. I don't know why it's strobing. Maybe it's low on battery. so a nice flashlight there so you can look and see the pest better and then also super important is a loop so this is a little magnifier glass you just put this loop on top and you look through it and then oh man there's I can see the dirt on my hands really well but this helps you see all the

56:03 bugs that are down um you know tiny tiny bugs and put it on the leaf you know clip a leaf off with those clippers and then look at the bugs and see and then enables you to try different tests on them and to see with this little loop. Very, very important. And then also there are gloves, which these have seen better days, but you can wear these gloves if you want to direct traffic and or you want to keep your hands. I don't know. Maybe you don't want those bugs on you. Maybe you want to protect yourself from something, but you might want to wash the gloves first. These

56:35 these have been through seen better days for sure there is also in the very oh oh there's actually another pair of gloves there's there's a second pair of gloves too these ones are cleaner i would wear those instead of these other ones so there's two pairs of gloves in there and then before i get to the other thing then there's also oh god there's these um so these are like uh plating things, you know, like you, you put, so basically what you do is you, you take, you know, your bugs, whatever you wanted to kill, put your bugs in here and then put it like that so that bugs can't get

57:12 away. And then you, and, and there's, um, there's like six of these. And so the idea is that you can have six different doses and you can make different mixtures with their syringes to make the mixtures different. And there's six of these different things and you spray on the different pests and And you see, and you're basically trying to find the minimum dosage of what worked in these. And so you just kill the bugs in these and just watch. And the bugs should die within 15 minutes or so. And when you kill the bugs within 15 minutes, then you know, okay, that's my minimal dosage that I can do.

57:51 Then you spray it on your plant a little bit, one plant. And if it doesn't burn your plant and you don't have any adverse reaction that way, then you can pretty much go ahead and treat your entire field for, for these bugs. And so that's his kind of natural pesticide regimen is to follow that method. But there's also in this thing, oh, if I can get it out, there's also a water softener. Um, and so it's, it's vital that you have soft water to do this. If you're doing hard water, it's not even worth it. It's like the

58:32 pesticide, it's just not going to bind and the pesticides aren't going to work that well. So you need a water softener. So he actually has a mobile water softener in here in the bottom of the kit, which I don't, I never used it, but that's what it is. And it's just like in line, you can kind to hook it in and do that. And then the other thing that is missing from the kit now, it was definitely in there was, um, three little spray bottles, you know, like the, um, like perfume sampler type of like squirt squirt, just small little sample bottles. I don't know where those

59:04 went, but those were definitely in the kit and that enables you to make up, you know, you could probably even have six of those to make up your different mixes, uh, to, to test on your, on your plants or excuse me on the bugs in those little petri dishes um and um yeah so that's a basic idea of what's in the in the kit and then the other thing that's in the kit but i think maybe i'll save this for next time i don't know maybe maybe not um oh is there are a bunch of bottles. So each of these you'll notice this one is labeled GF and then the next one is labeled like

59:47 TL and they're all have their own, um, labelings on these. And what these are, are different herbs that I was talking about last week. Why is it not? Okay. I got to put it in front of my face. It's trying to like make my face be the only thing in focus. But, um, so there are all these bottles and I can, maybe I'll take a picture of it so I can show, but one of them is labeled JWA and that's the Jadam wedding agent. And, or you could just call this thing soap, but soap has multiple uses and we'll, we'll get into that. But all these little bottles,

1:00:25 maybe next time, since we're almost at the end of the hour and I got to leave some sort of cliffhanger, is that we'll go through these herbs. We'll talk about the different ones that he's using, different things that he's recommending. And all these herbs combine differently. Like, they almost all have the common denominator, the soap. And we'll get into that. So, and then I'm certain in here, there's one that's going to be labeled JS. Yeah, and here it is, the JS, right? And so this, the, well, there's actually two soaps and

1:01:04 the JS right next to each other, but this is the Jadam sulfur. So the sulfur, super important to his system, the soap, super important to his system, and then the, um, the herbs, super important to his system. So those three things, the soap, the sulfur, the, um, this soap, the sulfur, and the herbs are very important to the whole system. And you can see this one kind of, I don't know, you can't, maybe you can't see, but it kind of leaked and it's like off gassing. Smells like the volcano. Yes. Cause this is sulfur, pure liquid sulfur. So he has the, you know, the soap and the

1:01:44 sulfur all here in its own little section. And then the rest of these are herbs and there are probably one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13. There's 13 different herbs that are in this kit and they're all that like this little, this little size here. And so we'll kind of go over that maybe next week and see like, what are the herbs? What are the different herbs that he has in his standard kit? But I kind of just wanted to share, you know, if you're going to build your own pesticide kit. You're going to go farm to farm. You're going to be like the,

1:02:18 you know, the killer, madadge killer. You got to, you know, you got to have a kit like this because you don't want to burn people's plants. You want to get the minimum available dosage. You want to get the pests and make sure that it's effective and can kill the pests. And, you know, you got to have something like this so you can test and you can have a mobile lab. So you can just come to someplace, formulate some pesticide within an hour and be able to treat someone's plants within an hour and get rid of these pest problems, especially if

1:02:55 you're doing like, you know, huge commercial farming or you got row crops or you got a greenhouse and you're getting overtaken by some sort of bug and it's going to ruin your entire crop. Or, you know, or you can go master Cho, which is just like get so robust that you don't have pest problems. But the reality is that when you're doing, it depends on the type of farming you're doing, but if you're doing like production type of stuff, you're probably going to need a toolkit like this to be able to deal with any type of pest problem that arises that could compromise

1:03:26 your financial stream and all those things. So, so hopefully you found this useful of like looking through, you know, like gloves, don't forget your gloves, don't forget your clothes pins, don't forget your tape measure which i'm not sure why there's you know maybe you're measuring leaf length or something i'm not sure what he used the tape measure for particularly but you know you gotta have that don't forget your thermometer the flashlight the ph strips the syringes and the loop the loop is super important so you can see those tiny bugs

1:04:01 because sometimes you're looking at a leaf and you can't even tell what it is but that little 10 times loop, man. It's amazing what you can see. You can see all that dirt on my hand. It just looks crazy how dirty it is. It's actually blood, too, because I killed some chickens the other day and I didn't wash my hands. Whoops. But, you know, but yeah, and the little syringes. So this hopefully, oh gosh, it's so filthy. I should have kept this thing in better condition. Oh, and I'm smashing something on this side. Am I? No, I don't know. And if you have it all, okay,

1:04:33 So if you all have it in one handy kit like this, you can just have all that stuff. No, I'm covered in dirt. This was on the floor underneath my house. I'm against the dirt. Oh, my God. But you can, you know, you can have this pest kit and come and debug these things. So I just wanted to share that. That is, you know, I learned a lot from Young Sun Cho. I have his kit. That's actually his. He made all those things. I had, you know, all those things have Korean writing on them and other from India, which is like, you know, it's amazing. Um, so, um, hopefully that helps you to understand like

1:05:11 what you would need in your kit and those things. Um, yeah. And, uh, we'll talk about the different ways he combines those things, what he does, how he has his pest pyramid, pest triangle, and, um, kills all those things and goes through and does these. But, um, you know, just having that kit, having those things and, and yeah, having a, a, a backpack fogger or, and, or a foamer. Uh, but we'll get into all that, right? I'm gonna leave some, some cliffhanger edges and, uh, you know, just, uh, want to shout out to everybody. Thank you for being a member of

1:05:48 the Pure Cana Foundation to those of you who are. Thanks for tuning in for doing, um, doing what you do, sharing natural farming around the world, making the earth a better place. Cause that's what my true mission here. Why, why am I here? Uh, cause I want to, I care about the ocean. If you read my book, you'll find out I care about the ocean. And I think that is in our, all of our common interest besides the reptiles. No, I don't know. Maybe even the reptiles interest is to care about the ocean. I'm not sure. But, um, anyway, I want to thank you for tuning in

1:06:22 this week, being part of the Pure KNF community foundation. Uh, we'll make some hearts go before we leave. Hearts, hearts, recognize it. Come on, AI. There you go. There you go. The AI is watching. Let's keep that in mind. Yes. Hearts. Woo. Cool. Um, and I wish you a good week. I'll see you. I'll be back next week. Pretty much as always. Uh, what it'll be still February. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. 25th. Yeah, it'll still be February. Cool. So thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Do good. You know, be a sensible person. Use your words and don't be nervous. You can do this. You've got purpose.

1:07:00 Find your medicine and use it. Okay. Anyway, I'm going to get out of here before, before, you know, stuff happens. But let's see, I got to switch this over because I was going to do that thing and do it wrong again, but I'm going to remember. Okay. So peace, love. Thank you. Thank you. Love y'all. Thank you. Yes. Okay. All right. Bye. Oh, it's going to go slow.