Pig Feed From Dairy Waste, IMO Collection, Water-Soluble Calcium

0:30 Hey, aloha, and welcome to Korean Natural Farming Office Hours for August 28, 2022. Looks like this will be the last bit of August. Goodbye, summer. And welcome, everybody, to being here. Good to see you guys all. It's like a global community growing from all over the world. So happy you guys are here tuning in. And I wanted to start today off with a little bit of inspiration.

1:16 So let's see what's in store for us today. and today is biting through. So there's an obstacle to the expression of truth. Withdraw into quietness and allow the sage to moderate. Unity has been broken by one who's not being true to proper principles. This may be another or an element in one's own personality or both. In any case, serious misfortune may result if the appropriate response is not made. The I Ching is very clear about our proper action when confronted with an obstacle of this nature, withdrawal into contemplation,

2:03 and turning over the matter to a higher power for resolution. This is a time when aggressive action or intervention can only compound the misfortune. Use your strength to clearly separate yourself from incorrectness and realign yourself with the sage. It is always our responsibility to acknowledge where something has gone wrong, but never our right to punish. The administration of justice is the sole province of the deity. The I Ching teaches us to forgive, but not to forget. This does not mean one who reveals himself as inferior today should be regarded as such tomorrow.

2:55 It means that we are wise to pay conscientious attention to the waxing and waning of truth in oneself and others. When truth predominates, we can progress. When it is eclipsed, we are obligated to withdraw and surrender the matters to the sage. So, always interesting when I start these off. You know, sometimes I get like progress and like, you know, possession in great measure. Today we get biting through. And, you know, I don't know how it would fit in. Sometimes I read the I Ching and I'm like, how does that apply right now?

3:37 But maybe somewhere, somehow I'm acting in incorrectness or someone else's or both, which is usually the case, right? It takes two to tango, they say. You know, you can't just act alone. And if you got a problem with someone, it's probably you're a bit of it. So I, you know, with that said, in those things of my behavior this past week, it's amazing. I was like, whoa, I woke up this morning. I was like, it's Sunday already again. And I was like, dang, it happened really fast this week. I've been busy, been dealing with, had some pigs break into the property.

4:13 and they were destroying my gardens. They ate all my cassava so I had probably 300 pounds 400 pounds of cassava growing in the ground that was pretty much ready to harvest and they had breached the fence and a whole family of pigs came in and completely decimated all my cassava which if you don't know what cassava is, it's like tapioca is another name for it. Yucca, manioc. And I, and I call it the Brazilian term, which is cassava because the, the cassava I have came from Brazil. It's a nice light variety and really, really good. So maybe that incorrect behavior

5:00 is the pigs. But so ended up finding out where the breach in the fence was, which I thought it had been secured. I had checked it just a couple days before, but it turns out they had been sneaking through a side hole that they had dug where basically I have a river and then the water flows through a river and the fence was there. And over the years, which I had been saying for at least a year, if not longer, that I needed to go up there and dig out the dirt and all the sticks that it accumulated against the fence because it pushed against the fence. And I actually have two

5:37 pieces of fence, four foot hog wire, and they had, it had basically created a waterfall. There's so much debris that the river had risen about three, four feet. And, um, and then, you know, I'm just sealing the fence together with state, uh, with, with hooks and things. And it had eventually breached that through and, and then split it. And so there was a huge gap and I went up there the other day after just everything was decimated and they were digging all around my house. And, you know, nothing's more unsettling than going to bed at night and hearing something destroying

6:13 your garden outside and coming out with your thermal scope and your, you know, AK-47 and trying to find it in the dark. And it's just like, oh man, you, it's being under attack at night is not fun and no, you know, I don't wish it upon anybody and having wild pigs come and just raid everything. It's, it's kind of a nightmare. So I was dealing with that most of the week. And then we ended up putting a bunch of snares in the valley. Um, and, um, and I, I fixed the fence hole, but then there was, there was still a pig inside. I knew because I can see they walk the fence line.

6:53 And when I go up to my barn, there's a road that we walk on and it's kind of muddy and I could see the prince and I could see its trail through the tall grass. And I knew it was, I knew there was still a pig in there. So we set a snare and then, um, sure enough that night, um, even though there were a couple of snares set for a while, um, I heard it at about three, four in the morning, heard the pig hit the snare and heard it start squealing. and my wife actually went down in the dark and got her initiation of shooting her first big pig

7:26 and she went down by herself too. She's hardcore man. If you come around here, watch out. She's a sweetheart, cooks great food, but also I bought her a rifle last year and we've been practicing with it. And she, uh, it's our first, first, um, big kill. So we got it. We got this, this, uh, probably says about a hundred, 150 pound boar, um, that we ended up, there was, there was the last remaining pig on the land. The rest are fenced out. So she got them and, uh, now there's peace on the land again. And so, um, even though it says the administration of

8:07 of the deities or the administration of justice is up to the deity, you know, it's sometimes it's up to us. And, you know, and then speaking of other catastrophes on the farm, I was up at, um, my, my pigs. So I have three domestic pigs right now that I've been raising. And I, um, just recently the pigs, um, one of them, there's a, there's a male and female next to each other. and the female is going into heat and the boar dug through the wall to get over to her while she was in heat. He, you know, talk about the power of nature to compel you to do wild things that

8:47 he dug through the fence, the dividing wall. And then subsequently, she's a smaller pig. So she got into his pen. And then I thought, oh, that's cool. Because when they were very small, I had them together to kind of condition them to be friends. And they're nice because sometimes if the pigs don't know each other, oh man, it can be gnarly when they're older trying to breed them. And so then yesterday I come up to the pig pen and I see a pig running across in my secure like pig pen area where I've been taking so much, you know, it's so heartbreaking to lose all my crops.

9:26 And so that area is really well fenced off and also to fence the pigs in in case they escape, but also to fence the other pigs out to keep their food alive. And I see a pig running across and I had my rifle with me because I had walked through the valley checking the snares before I went up to the pig pen. And I see a pig run across. I'm like, oh, you know, like, and I'm like, no, that's my pig. It's actually her name's Short Ribs. and she was running across and I'm like, oh no, she had breached and she had gotten out of the pen.

10:02 And that's where all my natural farming things are. Like my OHN, my fish aminos, like the can of fuel. And in fact, my can of medicine, my can of fuel, all, all everything, my plant foods, everything is up there. Right. And I'm like, oh no, like, cause a wild animal of that size coming around breaching things, you know, just smashing everything around. It's just like, oh, what a nightmare. But it turns out that she was probably only out for about an hour or so because usually I feed my animals around 3, 3.30, 4 o'clock at the latest. And because I was dealing with these

10:42 other pigs and this other problem, checking the snares, I was getting up there about 4.30, almost five o'clock and um you know she had been hungry because you know i didn't come up to feed her you know the regularity of feeding animals on time and she had breached and gotten out and um you know and so so immediately switch gears like okay i start feeding the chickens so they calm down feed the other pigs and then you know she she's real nice and and you know i'm i love my pigs they're really great to me and you know i was able to pet her calm her down you know because

11:17 she was spooked because she's out of her, out of her home and not sure where she's at, but calm her, get her to come back into her, um, her pen and started to feed her and then jumped over the wall into her pen and, and ended up, um, screwing on some pieces of, um, you know, leftover, um, plywood that I had up there, which I was just like, oh, thank God that I had, you know, everything I need up there, how to screw on screws, um, wire rope, a come along, um, you know, the piece of scrap plywood to put down. It's just like, you know, as you start to have a mature farm and

11:55 I've been doing pig farming since 2008 and up there since 2012, it's like, now I have everything I need. And it's like, ah, that's the, you know, thinking you can just jump into farming. You don't have these things, but able to do this and seal the wall up. And then getting back to where I was talking about as saying to Suze, you know, whoever says all you need is love. They're full of crap, man. Cause you need a lot more than love. You need screw guns. You need screws. You need plywood. You need all these things to live. If I was just on thoughts and prayers and love,

12:32 I tell you man the wild pigs would get me that my domestic pigs would get out you know it's so much harder it's just like everything is hard in life and so you need a little bit more than love and you know the sole sole province or sole responsibility of the deity is justice but it's like man you know yeah oh man sometimes it's a it's a hard life so um you know all you need is love is not, not quite true there. But, uh, so my drama with pigs this week, all that going on, all that happening. Um, and then, yeah, so, you know, life, life on a natural farming farm is

13:16 always, always quite wild, but, um, yeah, good, good to see you guys all checking in from the world, you know, yeah, yeah. Julia from Finland, the goof man from New York. Um, yeah, all you, all you guys check it in. It's, it's been great. And, you know, you know, what's actually been happening this week is a bunch of people have sent me, uh, videos and things about, um, you know, what's going on, what's, what's happening, how, how they're doing well. Um, so, um, so, and then, um, you know, Mitchell here, yeah, Mitchell even sent me a, you know, a really nice YouTube comment

13:55 of just, you know, how, how these things have just improved folks' lives and just, you know, it's, it's really, it's really amazing to see, you know, cause I did, you know, when I first went to Korea in 2008, um, and I had, I had no idea what I was getting myself into, you know, of, of just, um, you know, like, like I didn't, I didn't realize that I would end up hosting a video thing. And, you know, I just saw what I saw there. And I was like, this is the technology I was looking for. It's like, I studied computer science. And I was like, you know, all into

14:33 technology and stuff. But I realized agriculture is important. And if I just sit on the computer and just I was drinking rock stars and just like, you know, eating pizza and listening to nine inch nails, you know, classic developer, right? Staying up till, you know, four in the morning, six in the morning, not even sleeping, just like, just hack the planet, right? And then I saw that stuff in Korea, and I was like, it just like, I was getting into organic farming, was getting barefoot, returned back to Hawaii, where I had grown up after going, you know, studying computer science,

15:04 freezing my butt off in Montana. And I was just like, you know, this, this is what I wanted. I had no idea that it would turn into this. But I'm so glad it is so glad to see everyone tuning in from all over. Even Partita just had these great comments and all these things. So Mitchell's asking here, do your pigs store feed at all or most food scraps from farm byproducts? Or do you feed? So yeah, I do. I cash a lot of food. In fact, I have like a tote, like a big, two big totes.

15:43 They're papaya bins, and they're about the size of a pallet, so about four feet by four feet by about two and a half feet tall. And they're these big totes that handle about 1,000 pounds of papaya. And so each week I pick up—I used to be able to get a full bin when I had more pigs, but subsequently now I had to reduce my herd down a little bit because I can only pick up about a quarter bin now so like I've been saying that you know the famine's coming and canary in the mine shaft is that you know feed is not available here anymore you know the papaya industry is going

16:24 out the the you can't get feed I was just talking to a my wife was up at a farmer learning about milking and their stanchions and that. And they said they can only get about half the amount of alfalfa they used to get. Um, and so now I get about a quarter bin of that, but luckily I've been able to pick up, um, some bread and milk and eggs from, from a, um, food distributor through a, excuse me, from a, um, from a food distributor. And so I'm able to feed them that waste product and I put it in another bin and the milk, I always, you know, I just pour it straight

17:08 in and make KNF protectors, right? Right away. I just take trash cans and pour in a whole bunch of the milk, add a lactose starter. Like I'm not, I'm not using, um, you know, the, um, like I'm not using the rice wash water in that part. I'm just pouring in finished LAB into this barrel of milk because I just need to do it right then. I, you know, and have it all happen. So I'm pouring in a finished batch into this and it's all this really kind of gnarly, like zero fat stuff where I look at it and it's like I get the organic cream and it's just milk. It's just milk and

17:45 cream. That's the ingredients. And then I get this fat-free Dairyland stuff and tons of it because I guess people don't want it and it just goes to waste. But it has cornstarch and all kinds of like like barely even milk in it. And it's just like half and half, like half and half. It's not just because it says half and half and like you got to read the label. That stuff is, oh man, it's kind of gnarly. Um, and, and so I pour all that in and, you know, it's milk products, milk, 2%, 1%, all this milk into a, into a, um, trash barrel, then pour in some of the starter. And within

18:20 two, three days, I get, you know, a thick layer of curds at the top, probably about 10 gallons worth of curds that'll strain off there. And then the leftover about 20 gallons away. And then I use that way around the land, um, to, to take care of when we were, we're putting fish out on the land. I get a lot of fish waste each week and, um, that immediately eliminates the odor, helps it break down faster, everything. So, um, so the system of what I'm feeding my pigs, you know, that some of the scraps, some of the farm waste, I do not generate enough farm on my farm, compost waste to feed

19:00 these pigs. You know, I used to feed them bananas, but now I sell the bananas and then I'll, I'll buy gas to go pick up these other things. so it's pigs are incredibly hungry um and and what ratio of um the seed um protectors like the lab that i'm putting into this um and does it have sugar in it um yeah yep they it does have sugar in it and so i am creating some contamination in there of the sugar versus i'm not getting just pure lab. I'm getting other microbes to grow. In fact, it's, it's kind of a, um, it's not the,

19:37 it's not the most clean process, so to say, like I don't drink that myself. Um, but the curds come out nice. You know, um, I don't think there's much contamination in there. Plus the pigs are eating dirt and all this stuff anyway. Like they're pretty hardcore animals, not to say there's any abuse in this system. Like I'm really trying to keep it as clean as possible, but yeah, I just pour in the, you know, finished lab. And the ratio that I'm putting in is probably, um, let's see about this much. Uh, what is this? This is 600 milliliters or so of finished LAB pour about that

20:14 much into a 30, 30 gallon trash can. So it's, it's probably a little bit less than what's recommended, but that's already purified, strong, good way. You know, it's already perfectly good stuff, um, into 32 gallons or about 30 gallons of milk. And it turns out work works really well. Um, so that's, that's great for me. And, um, so, um, so I wanted to just before, before I jump into the things, since kind of talking about what I was doing, I just want to show you, uh, you guys just what I've been up to a little bit this week. Um, and I'm going to transition this

20:56 over. Hopefully the mic, yep. The mic's still going. Okay. And so, um, what I've been doing is I put in this food taco here and then I've been hooking it up to a, um, to a moisture sensor. And, and, um, so let me, and if I refresh this here, it will, um, it'll pull in the most recent picture. So right now, 915, um, I have this thing set up. So it takes a picture every 15 minutes of my food taco. And, um, my idea is that I'm going to time-lapse this because I did a interesting project, um, in about 2010 era where I, I had a camera that would take a picture of the garden

21:44 every minute. And we did this for three years and I ended up having this really cool time-lapse of the garden growing. And so this one I set up in a little bit higher resolution. So I'm taking a picture every 15 minutes, which is fine for this here. I don't need every minute. And my potatoes are growing. So these are all russet and Yukon gold potatoes that I bought from the store that left in the fridge too long. They started to sprout. So I planted them in here and then I ran this irrigation in this tubing. And what I'm doing is I'm keeping track of the

22:20 watering here. So if I bring this other screen over, let me, let me grab this and bring this one over. So you can't, you can't exactly view it live, um, through that screen, but this screen here is a, is actually a live video that's happening. You can see the time ticking there. Um, and so what I'm going to do here is, Oh shoot. Let me see if I can, um, let's see if I have to make VLC window let's see how do I make it float on top trying to do this live all right well anyway let me let me see if I can do it this way by bringing this screen over and

23:02 bringing this screen up here so you can see both of those and make this one let's see will it get a little bigger, make it a little bigger so you can kind of see here. And so I, you know, I'm just nerding out, um, you know, maybe, maybe this is the improper behavior. Cause I spent a lot of time on this, but, um, when I should be, you know, probably doing some other things, but I love this cross of like tech and farming and everything. And so if I go here now, um, you can see this live view and I hit watering down here and I hit start on this. Um, and then I refresh this page. Um,

23:41 you see, it says that, um, it, this, this watering right here, 9 23 AM, which is right now that it's active. And if you look here and you see it, let me zoom in here and see, can you see that? Yeah, maybe you see these little things are watering. And then if I go and refresh, oh, but then this page won't show me the moisture center changing. So it's something I'm working on right now. Um, but I can turn this on and then I can also turn it off here, hit stop here. And sure enough, then it'll tell me that it stopped and it watered for 35 seconds here. And, you know,

24:21 I need to, I need to, you know, uh, re redo the style sheets and all that to make all this nice. It's just a prototype, but the water turned off over here. You can see it's off and it gave me a timing so that I know when I watered it. So I watered it today here for 35 seconds. And then these moisture sensors, um, actually, if I go and tell it to go and moisture center, let me see, sensor measurement and read all my sensors. Um, it will do that. And then it gave me an update here of that the moisture sensors had changed. So if you see from the last reading here,

25:05 which was done, what, 8 a.m. yesterday or two days ago, the moisture sensors have changed. And so it'll log basically all, and there's four different moisture sensors in here. There's one, if you can see here, there's one right there. There's one right there. There's one down at the very bottom of this. And then there's one over there. So I'm logging these four moisture sensors in here and just kind of, I don't know, you know, it's like a, it's kind of a silly project, kind of like a, you know, what, what are you doing? It's, you know, the, um, the famine's

25:43 coming. What are you doing? Just, you know, spending hours making all this happen. But I love, I love this stuff. It's like, I was, I was working on this and then Suze is like, well, you know, some people, some people go to the beach and hang out. Um, and like, this is your hobby. And she's over there playing some piano and learning, um, she learned the song of storms and a bunch of, um, songs from Ocarina of Time. Um, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. And so she can play that all on this keyboard right here that we got for our wedding. And she's

26:18 been just jamming that out. And, you know, I look and I feel kind of guilty doing this stuff. And she's like, well, I'm over here playing this, you know, like what's, you know, I always feel like I gotta be driven and work and like do more and build. And it's like, here I am doing this. And what the actual microcontroller I'm using is ESP8266. It's also called a NodeMCU. and I got those. It's just a, it's like a, uh, five to $10 microcontroller, um, on the, um, that I got. And, and so it's, it's cool because it has wifi built in. Uh, the one thing that is not,

26:59 um, that I don't like about it is it only has one analog port. So in order to do these moisture sensor readings, which is why they're not happening at real time is I have to turn on the power pin for each one, wait a half second for it to power up, make a reading, and then switch to the next pin, wait for five seconds, or wait, wait, half a second, it'll take a reading. And so for me to read all my moisture sensors, it takes two seconds because there's four of them. And so what I need to do is get another analog pin or get an analog to digital converter where I can read all four at

27:35 once to be able to read all that data in real time, because how cool would it be that if you're watching, you know, this, um, this, this page here, that if all these readings were coming in in real time of what, um, you know, how, how the moisture sensors are changing and then the water and then hook all this up with Ajax and stuff. So it's just updates in live real time. So you're looking at it. And, um, you know, I mean that that's, that's ideal, right. For me is to get these, you know, real time readings where it's like looking at it. Um, but yeah, it's just, um,

28:09 so it's a little, little, um, you know, um, I don't know, passion project and yeah, say thanks. Thanks for psychopath for saying, you know, don't feel guilty about it, but I just think, you know, So it's kind of funny to be doing this, but I wanted to do it. Other things, if I do continue to head down this path of continuing to work on this, which I probably will. I've already spent a good six hours, eight hours, even just putting in the irrigation line. I had to dig it over, had to put power out to the greenhouse, had to do all kinds of things and have this camera going.

28:48 I want to put in a couple of temperature sensors. So I was thinking a sensor in the soil and a sensor in the air, and then also a little light sensor. So I have this sensor right here, which measures light. It's a resistive capacitor based on light. It's a resistor based on light. So when light hits this thing, it changes its resistance. And so I wanted to measure the amount of sunlight that was coming in as well and just log all that data and put it up here and have, you know, on the website that I built and make nice charts and ended up, you know, ended up writing.

29:34 If you are nerdy and this isn't, you know, I ended up writing the web server in Ruby, Ruby on Rails, because it's I'm used to that. It's fun. It's easy. I love Ruby, love Rails. It's like, this makes it so easy to do. And I ended up writing a little web interface in Arduino in C, or it's actually C++. So the C++ is just a quick, you know, just to access the sensors and no data storage there. And then it sends requests to the microcontroller to say, hey, give me this data. And then it stores it in the database on Ruby on Rails.

30:14 so then it made it easy to pull up the interface and all that because it has a model view controller because initially I was thinking I'd write all that on the node mcu and I was like why am I doing that why not you know I don't even have persistent storage here why not just bring it to my computer which is always on and then have it run the server so anyway if you're interested and nerdy and you know want to learn about that maybe I'll do a video on that if you you know drop it in the comments or yeah youtube guys i always you know comment below it's like you know man come on

30:48 only say comment if you want to um and chat here you know so anyway so that that's what i've been up to but what i wanted to share with you um this week here a little bit is that um let's start off here with uh rainbow possum because i see they're here and um wanted to just share they they sent me a little video here and um you know this is their their tiktok channel and um talking about the great results and in fact i think this came with an email so let me i'll pull up the email and share but check out these tomatoes peppers oh melons oh my gosh wow ducks oh nasturtiums

31:32 peaches oh look at those peaches cabbages oh my gosh yeah wow berries oh my gosh yeah all those flowers uh-huh and the chickens look at them happy oh wow yes i haven't watched this this is me watching it real time with you but look how cool this is i mean this is this is the kind of stuff that again you know, this is the inspiration. This is the stuff. These are the things that, you know, here I am taking my Sunday to be with you. And I thank you for sharing this back with me. So thanks. Thanks, Rainbow Possum. And then I also came with an email here. So hopefully you

32:18 don't mind me sharing this here. But I was just going to read a little bit of this where it says, you know, I just wanted to share what I've been doing. Um, and she sent that video here and then it says, um, I'm operating a, uh, two acre. Let me make this bigger. So you guys are, but then I'm in the way. Okay. So I'm operating a two acre homestead, small farm, about an hour North of Seattle, but I actually grew up in Hawaii and graduated Lahana Luna. What's up Maui? Um, in 2000 i've been using permaculture and regenerative practices for many years but

32:56 over the years i've been studying knf and applying it to the farm my plants are healthier and my yields are greater than ever hey that's pretty cool so that means that you know with permaculture and and bio or permaculture and regenerative practices knf is adding even more to the ticket So again, just another thing of like, hey, this is this is cool stuff. I'm so glad that I went to Korea and be able to bring this to you guys and create, you know, all this stuff and sharing. So of note, we suffered a loss of our peach crop last year due to fungal infection. Bummer.

33:36 This year, when I saw the fungus start to pop up again, I sprayed the tree with the KNF protectors, also known as lactic acid bacteria, and the rest of the peaches were healthy and we're able to harvest a large amount of healthy fruit. So again, it's just further testament to like the KNF protectors that they protect it. You see something coming, you get it early, you spray it, you get the good guys there. They even were able to avert this fungal thing. That's amazing. um we we also use the the protectors in our chicken coop and goose run and the smells have

34:11 been greatly reduced oh amazing and after several attempts i have successfully collected my first imos yes cool and look forward to making the three and the four so you know making activating it or propagating and activating it so it's tuned into your soil in your area that's what three and four are propagation and then activation with your soil tuning it. And, um, and then she says she's applied disgustingly cheap microbes in the meantime though. So that's awesome. You can get started with that. So really, really want to thank you for, um, for sending this, uh, to me and, uh,

34:52 you know, Mary, um, out, out in, uh, North is an hour North of Seattle, which, um, you know, that's, we got, we just got married in Bellingham. So, um, my, my, that's where my wife is from and, uh, great area. Great. You know, I sometimes like here I am in Hawaii in paradise, right. And it's always like grass is greener on the other side. I'm looking like, I look at, I watched Julia's videos. I see these videos and I'm like, man, look at these gardens. When you have a winter to like kill the weeds and then you have this like verdant spring takeoff, it's like, wow.

35:25 versus here in Hawaii, I'm always just grass, grass growing, never stops. I, you know, I spent this past week, that's actually what I did also this past week was mowing all around my pig pen, harvesting all that grass. And I'm talking like, you know, three, you know, like if I let it go a month, it's, it's all grass. I mean, it just grows like crazy here. So been, been doing all that and getting those things together. Um, and so, yeah, so I want to thank you, um, for sending that in. And then let's see here. Um, got another email. Um, yeah, let's see here. Yeah. Yeah. And then,

36:09 um, speaking of, um, um, yeah, Julia's stuff up in Finland. I've been, been checking out her channel. It's so, it's inspiring. I just, I just like watching that. Let's see here. So we got, we got this video here. Let me put this one in, pull this up and pause this. Hang on. Switch this over, transition this over. And then this is her making water-soluble calcium. So I'm watching this. Looks like nice eggshells, duck shells, maybe, who knows? I think she has a lot of chickens, so eggshells, crushing them up. Smart idea, putting the cloth with a stick, making sure they're small, tiny.

37:00 This is awesome. Yeah. Cool. And then, yeah, and smart to do this outside. Do not do this in your kitchen. Oh, look at their goats. Awesome. and then making a little fire. Oh, nice, smart on this oven, kind of like a rocket stove type of, oh man, homemade oven or homemade burner thing, even cooler. And so she's toasting the eggshells up, right? The whole thing is that if you, when you toast these up, you get rid of the moisture, but it also burns off any other organic matter that's there. So super cool, great setup on this,

37:44 you know, outside with this and this little rocket stove type of thing she got going here. Oh, cool. And then winnowing off the, um, the eggshell or the, um, membranes. Super genius. Really cool. Um, and, um, yeah, smash that like button. Smash it so hard. Um, so yeah, check, check this out. Oh, man, that's so cool. And then, you know, winnowing it, stirring it, making sure it doesn't burn, right? I am going to speed this up just a hair here, but she's winnowing this, getting it all,

38:30 oh, look how nice and toasty those are. That's perfect. Cool. Nice sunset. Yeah. I always look at this. I'm like, dang, that's nice. I mean, it's nice here in Hawaii too. Don't get me wrong. It's just nice to see other folks and sharing this. Oh, man, hopefully you didn't burn yourself. But then, yeah, bringing it inside, doing the vinegar. And this here, I know because I've already seen the thumbnail, that she ended up pouring all the vinegar in it once, and it overflowed. So learn from this when you see her doing this. Oh, look at those nice.

39:03 Getting these in here, and then she's going to pour in the vinegar. But check it out. You should have stopped about there. You should have stopped about halfway because when she pours in this much, look how reactive it is. And I know what's going to happen. This is like, you poured it all in. You did such a good job toasting this. Look how much activity there is. You did it perfectly, but you know, what's going to happen is this is going to blow out the top and go over the top. I already know it because this is a, if this is your first time, this is a mistake.

39:31 Everyone makes the first time it gets so active. Watch. And I'm going to skip ahead just a little bit, but you see it. It's already starting to come out the top. there's nothing you can do at this point so oh you're gonna do it to all of them oh no okay well it's okay it's okay um but but put them in a bucket or something you can collect this so that it doesn't over overgrow but but next time just put in about that much vinegar it'll start reacting and then after about a half hour or so once the reactions calm down then add the rest of your

40:03 vinegar because watch it's it's gonna it's gonna pop out the top i know it i'm gonna skip ahead a little bit, but look how she did such a good job toasting. Look how active this is. And that's the CO2 releasing, right? And then, yeah, you know, it came over the top. Yep. Oh, yep. There it is. Oh, they're all going to do it. Oh yeah. So, uh, learn, learn from here and just do a little bit, but look how active it is. It's, you know, the CO2 is, is leaving it's because it's calcium carbonate, right? And so that carbonate turns to CO2 as it oxidizes with the vinegar and leaves

40:39 the calcium in solution behind, which turns to calcium acetate, right? Yeah, yeah. And it's, it's, yeah, it's fun to watch and to see. But yeah, just bubbling over. So, and then this, this process takes about, you know, seven to 10 days or so, or actually, excuse me, this, in my experience, it's less than five days of what's happening. And, you know, and you can taste it in the first day, it'll taste like vinegar. Next day, it'll taste like, you know, the vinegar goes away. And eventually, you know, all the calcium has been dissolved. So

41:18 it really for me, in my case, three, three to five days, and you basically got calcium. However, the bones, the structure that you make takes longer. But this recipe, because calcium is so easy to dissolve, it happens so quickly. Yeah, and she said she tried it after seven days and it was done, and there should be no vinegar bite anymore. It should, in fact, on your tongue, if this is the tip of your tongue and that's where it's connected to your mouth, it should activate this part of your tongue, where it's kind of this chalky taste right here on the top of your tongue.

41:54 And, um, so then, you know, it's done, there's no vinegar bite and it just tastes chalky on that part of your tongue. So that's cool. Thank you. Thank you so much, Julia, for sending that in. It's, it's, that's, it's really cool to see. Um, and then she also has a video here. Um, let's see of going through and I think this one's collecting IMOs. Let's see here. So transition this one over. And so this looks like they're collecting their IMOs. So they built these nice little boxes. That's cool. And I think this is her friend that she's teaching about this,

42:40 like that she's interested in microbes. Yeah. Race tastes good. You can see her explaining that stuff. And I'll look how fun that is setting all these boxes up and good, good idea to use the stick. Your hands are have IMOs. So try to keep your hands off the actual microbes themselves, but good job packing it up two thirds here. Um, and then looks like they're putting the paper lids on staple and a month. So they don't sag down giving it that, um, you know, um, one third airspace so they can communicate in quorum sense. And looks like they're putting a little bit of

43:17 hardware cloth over the top to keep the animals out. Smart, really cool, great job. And then let's see here, I think they're going to head out to the woods here. Oh, look at those nice woods. You're going to get a great collection in these woods. When you are setting it, one tip to put it under the broadleaf trees and also bury it down a little bit. So bury it so that, you know, this box, put it down a little bit. So if you, if you dig in, like, um, just, just to show here, just real quick on this, um, let's see here. I'll pull this one up over here of that in the book.

43:55 Let's see here. Hang on. Trying to pull all this stuff up. Um, but let me see. um if you look at this here let's see uh transition this one's back up so if you look at this um do dig down dig down into the ground uh just setting it on the surface um yeah i know some some folks on the internet will show that in their video and stuff but if you dig down like this and put it into your soil then take that soil and put it on top and then the leaf litter around it to make this kind of cocoon you'll get even better results so not to say that it's not bad to just

44:32 put it on the surface because those microbes will go up, but you do want to dig into your soil because you're after the soil microbes. You're after these guys. So digging down into it and especially, um, you know, it can get cooler at night up in Finland and stuff. I would assume, um, you know, similar to Montana where it gets cold as heck at night. Um, but digging down and putting it in, you'll get even better results. So, uh, let's go back and go back to this video and keep playing this guy and see. But yeah, putting these out there. And it does look like you are digging down. Okay, okay.

45:07 So maybe I spoke too soon on this, but yeah, putting it down, putting it in so that it's really, and putting it under your broadleaf plants. This is a great, awesome idea. Great collections. Hopefully it's turned out good for you. So, um, um, okay. Yeah. So, um, and then while, while we're watching this, it's, it's good. Um, and there's a question from Adrian here. Oh, this looks like a real nice collection. Putting, putting the shield over. but she's asking about making the can of food fermented plant juice from mugwort but it refuses

45:53 to get liquid it actually got drier over the course of the week how would i fix that by adding a little bit of salt to your mix about 10 of what how much sugar you're adding also mugwort is just it tends to be dry so harvesting at the right season like spring is the best time to harvest it when the plant's real vigorous getting the tips um and planting up yeah nice and but cocoon that thing man put put put more okay sticks good good good good yeah this is good so yeah it's nice it's it's great to see this and and to share and to see all this

46:30 um and yeah this this will work in a bamboo forest too uh really well um you know you're collecting these soil microbes this this actually looks like a real good job i think it may be a spoke to soon when I said about digging down like that looks like a real good one and oh look at this it's it's so cool you put out multiple collections because you'll get to see these different um you know and here you can see the lichen out there so you'll get lichen formus and all these things this nice woods looks undisturbed it's a great great thing and all

47:01 the microbes breaking these down powering these trees up you're gonna collect all that um so So bamboo is another great place to collect. Let's see here. I'm just going to skip ahead a little bit. Oh, cool. Here's the nice collections out there. Oh, and then if you see my shrooms happening, you know there's my cilia. And she put out seven collections. That's awesome. And don't use the cardboard as an inoculant. Cardboard is going to have all kinds of gnarly things. Um, um, but you're saying in a cardboard box, um, yeah, a cardboard box isn't, isn't the,

47:47 oh, look at those berries, man. That's amazing. I, I, I just have thimble berries where they're, they're all spiky. Uh, but yeah, look at this. Oh, this is such a cool environment to go collect in. And, um, and then look at this, you know, she's really been, it's, it's been fun to watch her, her um her videos over this year of seeing the microbes coming in and where she's collecting just right next door to her garden she's saying and it's it's amazing so okay yeah yeah and she did dig down a little to get the things on top okay cool so um

48:24 yeah so um so and then hjs divine hands is saying if my la police or you know lab mixed with brown sugar is starting to get some type of type of clear stuff on top what is it and should i get rid of it um one thing to know is that storing knf protectors they're the most active microbes to store so try to use them a little quicker so if something's getting on top after you've been storing it, clear stuff, just go through it a bit quicker or put it in the fridge or keep the temperature from fluctuating up and down. Your nose knows. And if it smells nasty, don't use it.

49:04 But if it smells okay, go for it. And so seeing all these things, this is pretty amazing here. um let's see what else we got another um video here or not a video here but um um a picture share from the goofman um and so check this out he's he says he's um i think it says what it what does it say i think he's prepping for like uh 10 gallons to spray so check this out. He, he measures the stuff out, then he's adding it to this spraying tip. And then this is like an auto diluter. He's able to set it up. So he sets it. So instead of carrying a bunch

49:52 of stuff around the hose is actually diluting it from these concentrates that he's put in. And, but look at these different spraying setups and these different things he has, like how cool is that? Like small misting sprayer. This looks like a battery powered one and this other setup. So it's just cool to see, um, these different texts and different technologies, but I really like this idea of, you know, just having it dilute as you're spraying it out and you can change the spray pattern here. And if you set this up right, it'll, it'll dilute it out for

50:25 you in situ. So that's, that's a cool technology there that he's doing. And then he sent me a photo of his front flower garden here where, you know, just look, I mean, these nice flowers going off. And, you know, when I was first looking at this before I started the show, I was looking and I was thinking to myself, you know, like the classic way that people tell people to do this is to like get some miracle grow and throw it out here. And that's what people know is like, go get miracle grow. You want your flowers to grow, miracle grow, but that just

50:57 bakes out your soil causes problems over the long run causes disease then you have to go back to the same store and buy their pest solutions and look at this his soil is getting healthier his flowers are kicking butt and this is just like imagine every home had a nice flower garden in front where you're not only are you growing flowers you're also enriching the soil you're improving your water quality runoff, improving the air quality, reducing the carbon footprint, promoting peace, right? I mean, like these are the things, the values that I'm so glad to share

51:35 this and show this and just be like, this is the stuff. These are the things. And then let's see here. Oh, it looks like I need access to access any of the other, the back garden that you sent me. Um, I don't, you know, you sent those photos, but I don't have access to them. So that's okay. Um, and then, um, I got one, one other email here that I wanted to go over. And this was a question from Mao. Um, and, and he asked me, um, you know, hope all is good. He has a quick question. He says, I'm just wondering why it is necessary to use all the solutions after introducing

52:18 beneficial microbes to my soil. wouldn't the IMOs create the conditions for my plants to thrive without my help and this is absolutely true Mal you're you're absolutely correct typically when you hear from well thanks thanks to Goofman typically when you hear from Master Cho it's what you're doing is you're putting down the IMOs and then you're feeding them and it's just like you know like a kid like you want to you want to put you know introduce good kids but you also want to give them on the job training so that they can get good. And eventually they'll be good and then

52:55 they'll rear the next generation and it'll, it'll be this succession type of thing. Um, so the, the answer to answer your question is if you do put the beneficial microbes in the soil, um, they will create the conditions to thrive. But if you really want to help them establish, and you really want to jumpstart that process, applying the maintenance solution, applying the soil solution, applying the leaf solution to your plants can help you kickstart through that process. So eventually, it's just like speeding yourself up. It's like you could say you could just get

53:30 good people, but if you get good people and you give them the resources they need, they're going to be even better. You could just send good people into the woods and be like, go figure it out. But if you, you know, and they will, they will, right? But if you take good people plus send them supplies and resupply them with supplies on a good frequency, they'll be even more productive. And then at a certain point, once that production comes in, then they'll be able to build their own systems. So in the case of where I'm going to pull up one video from my channel here,

54:03 you know, and try and try and find this thing relatively quickly. Let's let's see if how quickly I can do this. Um, but what I, what I want to show you is it's, it's from, it's from the old, um, so it's, so I'm going to go transition over here and show you how I'm finding this, but on my channel here, um, so click it below, you know, um, here is the thing and I'm going to scroll down here to where there are demo farms in Korea. And in this playlist here, which is the Korean farming 2008 when I went to Korea, I'll click on that guy. And then here,

54:48 not this playlist, but this the playlist here, this persimmon orchard farm. And um or no no this isn't the right one um oh no do i not have it in here maybe i didn't get any video from that farm oh darn well okay yeah no i didn't i don't think i got this one here so uh bunk on that one sorry you guys maybe that's why but um anyway we went to this amazing farm up on this hillside and I had to have footage from that. I've had to, maybe, maybe I lost it though. It's, oh man, you know, this was my old camera, um, my old Sony and it was on, uh,

55:33 mini DV tapes and I just have them, but my camera broke and now I can't get that stuff off the mini DV. Um, you know, I don't have it in here, I guess. Um, but anyway, the, the point is that, that basically these guys practiced KNF so well that eventually a really nice ground cover came in and they didn't have to do much. He would just spray calciums right before harvest to just help the fruit have a little better shelf life. And he really wasn't doing any more IMOs because it came to, you know, self-sufficiency. So to answer your question, Mal, yeah, like your land will get

56:17 self-sufficient and you will have these things happen for you. But while you're getting there, you want to, you want to help it along that transition and give it the supplies it needs and make sure you're there. So, and then he says that leads to the second question. Can I make good IMO without any of the other inputs? And then just to focus on applying IMOs without soil foundation formula or any of the other stuff. And you can, you can just, you, the whole point of adding these resources, the other solutions, the other, um, other things in there, the right formulas at the

56:55 right time is master Cho always talks about, you know, right, right food, right time, right amount, right? So the right, right nutrient, right time, right amount. And if you help it by giving those things at the right times by instead of just taking some people, like, like, again, the analogy of taking good people and throwing them in the woods and saying, good luck. If you also send them the right supplies at the right time and, um, you know, the right amount of them instead of, you know, giving them too much of the right thing, right time, but way too much or way too little,

57:29 you know, you got to balance all that out. Those three things, then you get the best things happening there. So, um, so all those things come, come together, um, and work, um, and make it, make it all happen. So, um, so that's the key. So yes, you can, you can just implement a part fragment of natural farming. You can say, I just want to focus just on the IMOs. You can, You can say, I want to focus just on can of food and feeding. You can. You want to just focus on just the cleanser and just put vinegars out. You can.

58:08 But if you combine all these things, all nine core solutions at the right time, you put them in the right ratios and you give them, you know, your plants, everything, you know, you see the success of people that are following the correct formulas and the people that actually implement them. And I'm sure there's hybrids of everybody doing, you know, different parts, different, you know, it's impossible to be like pure KNF, even though, you know, here we are with the pure KNF foundation, right. And to do it, you know, because nature is this gray area, it is this line, it is these

58:41 things between, um, so, um, but making, making these things happen, um, doing, doing it right. you know, this is the answer, you know, the more you can follow Master Cho's recipes, you know, he really knew what was up. He really, you know, like the animals are part of the proof, you know, you see it there because they just thrive and you can solve all these problems. And then, but the plants are also, you know, when you do it right, it's just, it's just amazing. So So a big shout out to Master Cho here. You know, I keep him up on my wall every, you know, as a constant reminder that, you

59:26 know, I'm just a messenger of doing his thing of, you know, synthesizing, building it here, adapting it to Hawaii, but also sharing it globally because these methods work everywhere. These recipes, you know, um, and I like this, like this thing here where, uh, Julia was saying she had a dream the other night. She was at a flea market that had huge glass jars and she got all of them. Like those are the fantasies of the natural farmers, right? Where we have, you know, these things. And what's the nightmare of the natural farmer?

59:58 It's like there's an earthquake and all my OHN jars broke, you know, all my all my K&F medicine, you know, or or my pig got out and knocked everything else over. You know, so I just, you know, like these are these are the things. But anyway, returning back to the Master Cho, it's like, you know, giving credit to where credit's due. I couldn't do anything without, you know, I don't know where I'd be without him. And, you know, doing my thing here, trying to share the love, bringing it out to you guys, you know, reaching about 10 o'clock. I want to thank you guys for tuning in.

1:00:36 It's really been an enjoyable day for me, you know, biting through, you know, trying to get through all these challenges we have, keep a positive attitude, realize that, you know, if we continue to do good, God does good for us, you know, opens our hearts, um, opens our minds, continues to, to, um, help us all. So, um, yeah, um, just, uh, last, last little bit that I got is, man, I, so one other thing I've been up to this week has been reading my good friend, uh, Robert's rules of order and rules online and helping specifically reviewing committees and

1:01:20 boards and getting our certification committee together and really getting it top notch so that we are following, uh, the bylaws. And because we specify, we follow Robert's rules of order, we're doing that and we've been just working a whole bunch to get our um really what we're working on our goal number one for this um is to get our um our directory together for you guys so understanding working with our committee to understand how to write requirements for software and then how to build the architecture and then get into construction and put all those starting

1:01:58 with a purpose and a goal so that we stay focused and make these things happen. And it's wild to get into these things and make it happen. So, um, you know, been working behind the scenes, um, you know, the micro small things I do, um, you know, uh, pure KNF foundation, want to thank them, couldn't do this without them and all the supporters that, that make that happen. So pure KNF.org, um, checking it out. They sponsor this office hour, also can of times and all this, you know, great things that they do and getting our certification and our director together.

1:02:34 We're focusing on those things right now to really bring them top notch because we were on this doing it really well. And then, but key is to stay like within the bylaws, within an organization, within these things. And, um, so anyway, I want to thank you for tuning in. I want to thank you for making it this far, you know, do the usual YouTube, things, but more than anything, get out there, do natural farming, send me some photos, send me some videos. It was really inspiring this week. I want to thank you all. Love you guys very much. And, as always, long live the natural farmer. Aloha.