No-Smell Chicken Floor, Garlic Tincture for Bean Beetles, Manganese
Drake opens with an I Ching reading, then tells the story of chasing a neighbor's bull off his pasture and trying to move his own cow to a new field. He says forcing a cow only backfires; the trick is slow, steady pressure from behind.
Fiesta Cranberry's chicken poop was drying into hard gray pellets instead of breaking down. Drake diagnosed bedding material that was too coarse for the chickens to scratch and turn - grass clippings or hemp bast need to be cut to about 3 inches, kept 3 to 6 inches deep, and sprayed with a 1:1000 lactobacillus dilution if odor shows up. A follow-up photo showed the hemp bast still had too much airspace; Drake recommended mixing in soil so the fungal network can spread and hold moisture.
Tyler Ljunghammer shares photos of his Oklahoma homestead: bananas, ginger, taro, and pineapple growing alongside a black soldier fly bin that feeds his chickens. Da Goof Man's New York garden is running cold and behind schedule this August. Chris reports a 1:1000 garlic tincture spray stopped bean beetles cold on his blue lake and wax beans, no sulfur needed.
Drake closes by reading a detailed listener comment connecting manganese deficiency and redox (EH) imbalance to so-called incurable plant diseases like citrus greening, and how KNF minerals and foliar sprays restore the balance. He wraps with a reminder that only one cabin is left for the November 2023 KNF training in Hawaiʻi.
Questions answered
- 3:22 How do you move a cow to a new pasture without a fight? — Drake said forcing and chasing backfires; move slow and steady behind the cow, making yourself small then big instead of pushing.
- 8:25 Chicken pen poop dries into little gray rocks and won't disappear - why? — Drake said the floor material is too coarse for chickens to scratch and turn; cut bedding to 3 inches or less and keep it 3 to 6 inches deep.
- 10:30 Chopped hemp bast bedding with IMO, LAB, and biochar has a slight odor near the ground - what fixes it? — Drake said spray a 1:1000 dilution of lactobacillus over the surface to kill the smell.
- 19:50 How does a black soldier fly bin turn into chicken feed? — Mature flies only lay eggs in newspaper above the bin; larvae hatch, crawl down a pipe into a bucket, and go straight to the chickens.
- 27:04 Why is my garden struggling this year despite reports of record heat? — Drake shared Da Goof Man's New York garden, where a cool, rainy August left tomatoes just 6 to 8 inches tall, far behind last year.
- 32:24 How do you stop bean beetles on blue lake and wax beans without heavy sulfur? — Chris found a 1:1000 garlic tincture spray halted the beetles completely, since garlic's natural sulfur was enough on its own.
- 36:48 A photo of hemp bast chicken bedding still smells a little - what's really wrong? — Drake said the hemp bast leaves too much airspace for microbes to network; mix in a few shovelfuls of soil so mycelia can spread and hold moisture.
- 42:35 What actually causes so-called incurable plant diseases like citrus greening? — Drake read that manganese loss from excess oxidation (redox/EH imbalance) opens plants to pathogens; KNF minerals and foliar sprays restore the balance.
- 52:45 Is there still room at the November 2023 KNF training in Hawaiʻi? — Drake said only one cabin spot was left for November, with more space open for the January training.
KNF Office Hours is a free live Q&A every Sunday at 9 AM HST. Bring your question to pureknf.org/learn/questions or join live.
In this episode
- 0:00 Getting Settled
- 1:09 I Ching Reading
- 3:22 Managing Cows, Separating Bulls, Weaning Calves
- 8:00 Fixing a Smelly Chicken Pen Floor
- 15:16 Touring Tyler's KNF Homestead and Chicken Coop
- 19:50 Tyler's Black Soldier Fly Setup
- 20:55 Tyler's KNF Garden in Oklahoma
- 27:04 Da Goof Man's KNF Garden in New York
- 31:27 A Message From Chris on KNF Transformations
- 32:24 Garlic Tincture Stops Bean Beetles
- 34:33 Hope for Farmers Doing the Right Thing
- 36:48 Fixing the Hemp Bast Chicken Floor
- 41:10 Moving to the Next Topic
- 42:35 Manganese, Redox, and Incurable Crop Disease
- 52:45 November 2023 KNF Training in Hawaiʻi
Transcript
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0:00 And we're live, I think. Let me double check. I need to pull up this other tab, but that was a heck of a... You caught that earlier live, man. I was out in the pasture chasing some cows. Luckily, she went in pretty easy. It was good. I gotta go back out there later. Yeah, I witnessed you at first. What's up, man? Good. I'm glad it's live. It's going. That was always wild. We're back. Oh, man. I tell you. All right. Let's bring my chair up.
0:46 To be higher up when I'm doing these office hours. Maybe a little lower. Right there. Perfect. Good. Okay. Okay. Okay. Let me double check this thing's going. We're all good. I think we're all good, right? But, oh, we can't start without not doing higher wisdom. So, yeah, happy Sunday, y'all. Oh, it ain't all pleasure in paradise, let me tell you. Getting out there. Hello from Germany. What's up, man? Good to see you all. Let's go into this and do that.
1:37 Okay, so today, how apropos, how apropos. It says, difficulty at the beginning. If we persevere, a great success is at hand. I guess I persevered. The cow back in. Made it here. Okay. Literally, the translation of Chun is a blade of grass pushing against the obstacles. It sprouts out of the earth. Receiving this hexagram is a sign that beyond the difficulties and pressures that surround you, a success lies in waiting. In order to bring it fully into the light, you must be patient and persevere in non-action.
2:28 No matter how fervently one desires to resolve a situation, to intervene impatiently now will only hinder the progress of good fortune. Accept and bear with the discomfort of chaos without attempting to push it away, Allowing it to clear of its own accord in its own time Is the only way of ensuring a subsequent blossoming of success Hold to proper principles in your actions And seek to respect the counsel of the sage Allow those whose hearts are true to assist you wherever possible Be tolerant of all others in this way the blessing that now lies hidden will come into the open
3:19 well if that ain't true if that ain't true if that ain't true i don't know if you just saw me heard that cow but basically did it alone and yesterday yesterday my wife and i chased that cow for probably an hour i'm trying to separate her from her son to wiener i'm trying to get her across to another pasture over the valley with another herd of cows. Um, cause another, my neighbor's dairy cow broke into my pasture this past week. And he's already the father of that bull that you saw that that's her child. And then he's going to like impregnate my cow again. And
4:02 it's a beef cow and I'm trying to make it more Angus and my Wagyu with an Angus instead of a Holstein, but that bull is like freaking huge. And my neighbor doesn't manage his cows that well. He basically doesn't do anything other than leave them in a pasture and feed them alfalfa supplements each day. And they've eaten all the grass down to where there's no grass that they like in the pasture anymore because he doesn't do rotational grazing. And that's just the nature of leaving cows on a big field without moving them and denying them access to certain
4:36 parts is they will eat all their favorite grass first and then there's no other favorite grass left it's just the worst grass so then the cow breaks out you know my cow maybe is in heat or something he breaks over the fence breaks into my herd I spent all day chasing him I almost I got cramped up I got fatigued in fact and then then after that after chasing you know trying to get her to go I wasn't listening to the ching wasn't listening to difficulty at the beginning trying of force her, trying to push her. Right. And, uh, it just went, it was just, we got her so close to
5:11 getting her another pastor. So close, so close to getting her another pastor, like literally like, like 20, 30 feet away from going another pastor. And, um, she, uh, she just wouldn't go. I mean, she, she ended up coming back and it's just like, after that much energy of getting her around and over there and like, oh, and then she runs back and it's just like back to square zero. Like five, six times we went back to zero and it was just like heartbreaking. But trying to force her, trying to push her instead of trying to be slow and steady, which is what you need to do
5:42 with cows. You need to be slow and steady and move behind. Occasionally let out the little and occasionally make yourself big like this. Look, that sweat is hot. And I'm wearing a long sleeve shirt because my mom gave this to me. Check it out. Bozeman, Montana. That's where I went to school. Um, and, um, yeah, so I was trying to force her and it was just, oh man. And then after that, after cramping up, after working all day, you know, pushing her for an hour and an hour and a half, two hours in the hot sun, like midday too. I don't know why I chose to do a midday, but,
6:16 um, then had to go fix the pole that my neighbor's cow snapped the day before. and it's like oh my gosh so I'm out there pouring concrete and like catch a mean cramp in my leg almost took me out fell I didn't fall on the ground actually I had to jump up on the tractor and like try and stretch it out and I found something interesting with cramps it's like not breathing for some reason helps like my body naturally wants to just hold its breath when I get a cramp I'd be like I don't know yeah I think there's something with uh co2 exhalation co2
6:47 imbalance. I don't know. I'd have to look into that. But anyway, thanks for witnessing me herding cows. Patience at work today. I don't know. Maybe your guys' good vibes. But definitely difficulty at the beginning today. I still didn't drink any of that milk I was talking about. But I have it right here. Look at this. That's the benefit of having a cow. Dairy cow. Plus this milk just came from the fridge. Look at how much cream there is. I don't know if you guys can see that, but there's like cream down to there. So I'm going to enjoy a little bit of milk.
7:33 And cream. And thanks. Thanks, Bird. Thanks for the super chats. Thanks for the donation. Keeps the office hours going. Tell you what, you know, paying your favorite creators helps a lot. So yeah, thanks for being part of the solution, everybody here. And yeah, we're all doing it as a family. So I appreciate everybody here, everybody contributing in their ways and means. And let's start here with Fiesta Cranberry. Get into a few questions and then I got a few sharebacks to get into. I got to pull a few things up here in order to do that, but this will help.
8:15 Um, and then, okay. So here, um, question from Fiesta Cranberry help. I desperately need advice about my chicken pen. The poops are not disappearing. They dry out and turn into little gray rocks. Okay. So Fiesta Cranberry, I need a little bit more information. what is on your flooring? What kind of stuff do you have for the floor of your pen? Because it sounds to me like your chickens are unable to scratch and turn the floor if the poops are just sitting there. Now if they're pooping on something they can't stir it into, like sometimes they crap
8:57 on things, sure the poop will stay there. Like I have bins inside my chicken pen, trash barrels basically and they're maggot bins and the chickens will sit on top there and crap and those craps will just stay there they don't smell um because there's so much IMOs and the dust and the air blowing around but um but they just stay there but if they crap on the floor they are constantly turning the floor that's what chickens do they peck and scratch and peck and that's just their natural behaviors just all day scratching scratching scratching so it leads me to believe
9:32 that the floor is not small enough material you need to cut it about three inches or less i often use grass clippings works really well for me um but if you're having something that they can't stir and stir and have it at least about three to six inches deep and of depth the crap will just sit there and if you have longer pieces then they'll just crap and they can't turn that and stir it and so the crap will just sit there so i don't know without hearing back from you on this because you did ask it about five, ten minutes ago and I'm answering it only now. But that's
10:09 the, at least that's what I'm going to say is the answer for right now until you can tell me otherwise because it sounds like they're crapping on things that can't turn it in to get it to go. Yeah, so, yeah, I miss you too, Mark. All the students. I always think about all my students and everybody. Oh, there, okay, we got an answer here. I used chopped hemp bast on the top of the earth. I added IMO, LAB, biochar. I rake it. When I rake it, I see lots of poop. So if the poop is underneath then, and it's not stinking, that means that it's being, um, dried out and then, um,
10:53 transformed. So it's like protein type. It's actually like, uh, turns into like a food source and or like mummified poop, which you don't have to worry about. So I'm not sure if that's the case. Is it, I mean, is there smell? Is it stinking? Are flies attracted to it? Because if it's smelly, you know, smelly and stinky are the same thing. Or flies are attracted to it. I guess smelly and stinky aren't the same things. Smell would be strong smell. Stinky would be kind of gross, strong smell. And, you know, flies, that's a sign of E. coli, of pathogens growing.
11:27 if you don't have any of those that seems like it's uh those are good things so um so we'll see on that but um let's see here um i'm just getting into my email over here because we got a few things okay um so yeah so raking it i don't know uh maybe make the layer um thicker about three to six inches um i'm the hemp bast let me let me look up what hemp bast is real fast oh it looks like these fibers so as long as the fibers are short enough
12:16 This looks like sometimes it's longer. You got to cut them so that they are short enough. And it looks like the hemp bast is going to last a long time. If it's chopped up, it should be okay. But slight odor right near the ground. And more lactobacillus would help use 2 inch of hemp. of hemp. So no smell till yesterday when I noticed a very slight odor. So if it's getting moist, but just dilute lactobacillus one to a thousand and just kind of give it a quick spray over the top and it would eliminate it. Yeah. Yep. And then Tyler saying the same thing. Yep. So just
13:03 give it a quick little surface spray of lactobacillus and that will get enough lacto in there and they will go down and eliminate the odor. So I'm not exactly sure. Can you, can you, I don't know, take a picture of it and send it to me too. I might be able to like see from looking. You re-sprayed labs several times. Maybe it needs, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so Cheryl, Cheryl's mentioning, hey, Cheryl, what's up, Cheryl? I was just thinking about you. she says it sounds dry and hemp might dry it out more spray lab for moisture and smell yeah so
13:47 getting it moist enough in there um it could could also be an issue i don't i don't run into that issue because where i am it's so humid it's so moist um i don't run into that issue but if it's drier out there you may run into that issue um that is actually a concern is that um you know even my chicken pen may be slightly too dry. Send a pic to drake at pureknf.org. Yeah, I can just actually, if I get it right now, I can just put it up on the screen. But so I'm going to jump from that over to this because Tyler sent me some photos and
14:28 it's just they're pretty epic. And I think he's going to let me share these. I don't know. I didn't ask him ahead of time, but I'm pretty sure he sent me because he wanted me to share them. But he's in the chat. Tyler Lunghammer. I don't know how you say it. Lunghammer. I just said Lunghammer. I'm not sure if the J is silent. It's supposed to be kept pretty dry. Pretty dry. Not wet, not soggy, but a little bit of moisture. Helps the microbes, you know. I mean, it's
14:59 It's drier than it is supposed to be dry, but a little bit of moisture helps the microbes to populate more if they're not populating. I do want to roof over it. Anyway, okay, so I'm going to go to this here. Oh yeah, I'm in studio mode, so it just doesn't immediately. That's pretty cool. I'm going to turn off studio mode so I don't do something wrong here. Okay, so here's Tyler's things. Ah, they're not going to be bigger than that? Come on. All right, well, we can look through them this way. I was hoping they were going to be bigger. Well, okay. Well, okay. So let's see his house here.
15:43 Look at his nice garden. He's got these things. This is Oklahoma, by the way. So for some reason, I think of Oklahoma as being pretty dry. But look at this. And, you know, one of the coolest things about Tyler is he has a super green thumb. And look at this. He got bananas growing in Oklahoma. And I know, you know, and some corn. How traditional. Or not traditional, but, you know, whatever we do these days. Look at that. Bananas. What else he got? There's a nice bug trap. And look at this. What is this? He's doing some coffee and worms, I reckon. This must be a flow-through worm bin here.
16:28 You can see the little fence under that. So I think these are stackable worm trays. And he works at a coffee shop. And he told me he's been putting the... I know, you guys need my cursor bigger. He told me he's been doing some interesting things at the coffee shop where they have this future ag... I forget exactly what he called it. I could look it up. I mean, he did send it to me in the email. But he's selling his pointer control. No. Display. There. Hang on. One sec. I'm just making this thing big. Which I don't. It's hard to have it big. But there. It's big. Now you can see it.
17:08 But he's doing some cool stuff with the coffee shop. Of using it as a distribution center for natural farming. So let me see. Let me just switch to this one too. Because I don't know. Sometimes people like to see me. Let's do that right there. Okay, yeah. No, and look at these. These are worm castings. Maybe it's coffee being turned into worm castings. I don't know. He might be able to tell us a little better. I think those are worm castings. And this looks like an injection system, some sort of filtering injection system, so he can run water through his natural farming things.
17:53 That's what it looks like to me. I'm not exactly sure. Maybe it's the different hoses going out. But it looks like he's sucking it out of this bucket with a Venturi right there, right? Doesn't that look like a Venturi? Sucking the solutions in? Yeah, yeah. So he's siphoning the liquid IMO. Thanks for commenting because I'm just making assumptions here. But apparently, Assume was right. Oh, look at this. This is ginger. For anyone that doesn't know, man, ginger. That's so cool. Growing ginger in Oklahoma. Ah, look at these nice chickens and that dog. Oh my gosh. Yeah. And then mosquito net
18:34 house. So you can hang out there, I guess. Hang in the garden. Look at that little shed. That's nice. Man, you're so handy. This is so cool. I love seeing other people's things. Like look at that chill spot. And then you got this little archway, uh, what is that? Cucumber maybe? I know some sort of vine coming over and the ginger there the oh he's a hammock out here oh my gosh yeah and then look at this chicken coop so and then he has the run underneath with all the leaves and stuff that's nice get the chickens in there um laying box kind of thing there's some crap in
19:10 there he probably that's why he's talking about spraying it with the lab because this crap probably It will stink, but I bet you the chickens go through this little curtain into their laying box on that side. Pretty smart. Awesome. Cool. Looks like it's made out of recycled pallets. Sweet. Nice chickens. Nice hardware cloth here. Oh, yeah. No, and he has a bigger, like, kind of more of the Korean thing. I'm not sure how this is linked together, but look at that. Wow. This is cool. chicken pen closed up keep them safe from the possums and oh is this a worm bin like a maggot
19:53 bin type thing I bet the maggots crawl out here and go into this bucket and then he feeds it to his chickens I'm just making assumptions of what he does yeah there's the inside of the maggot bin yep black soldier fly so collecting the black soldier flies they live in here and then they crawl through this pipe out into that um collection on that side and then this all this newspaper up here is for them to lay their eggs in. And when you have them lay their eggs, then the eggs hatch and fall down into this material. So this looks like a super good design,
20:27 man. This is cool. That's really smart, the way you got this going. I don't know how productive it is for you, but you know, where you get the egg laying place and then you got the whole thing, that looks really cool. So the interesting thing about soldier flies is as soon as they're mature out of their maggot stage, they turn to flies. The only thing they do is lay eggs. They don't eat. They don't do anything. It's just to lay eggs. So if you give them a good place to lay eggs above, they'll do that and put it in there. Look at that chicken hanging out on this trellis.
20:58 What are you trellis in there? I don't know. Maybe just chickens. I'm trellising chickens, man. Look at that hammock. This looks like a great place to kick it, kind of in the shade, the afternoons out there. Man, Hannah's a lucky woman. Yeah, look at all this. Oh yeah, look at the fire pit with this thing. Man, man, I gotta come visit, man. Look at this, kicking it out there. This is amazing. And look at all this mycelium growing in his wood chips. is a healthy ecosystem full of life wow oh yeah look and it's in the soil too and look at the
21:41 roots tapping into this this is epic cool cool man yeah yeah oh and he got some taro no way bro i wonder how well well that does for you that's that's that's cool uh and a pineapple i didn't see the pineapple it's like blending in and i'm colorblind oh my gosh a fruiting pineapple wow dude dude look at the pineapple and the taro this is like the tropical section of the garden actually his whole garden's tropical bananas ginger he i think tyler loves hawaii i'm just gonna just gonna assume that since i've been assuming a lot is that grapes i don't know but
22:22 look at that nice trellis system coming over the corn here oh it's a cucumber it's a cucumber cool make some pickles or some, I don't know, you put it on your eyes and make sure you stay young. Oh, tomatoes. Look at these nice tomatoes coming in. Bagged them up so that, you know, just for him. That's what this bag says. It says, no bugs. These are mine. Stay away, bugs and birds. These are my tomatoes. Oh, look at this nice cucumber. Man, this is cool looking. What a great thing. Potatoes? Ain't no potato famine here. What is that? Some kind of
23:02 squash looking thing. Maybe a Japanese cucumber. That's looking cool on this fence here. Oh, a loofah. Don't eat that one. Just wash yourself with it. So he's growing his own sponges. That is epic. Yeah, loofah. One time I thought, man, look at this huge cucumber and I brought it down and I cut it open, it was a loofah, and I was like, oh. Oh, look at these greens and things. Oh, man. Nice garden, Tyler. You're doing amazing, man. This is cool. That's great to see. Look at this. More tomatoes. Or, great. No, those grapes? Tomatoes? I don't know.
23:39 Whatever. These bags say that they're for him, and they're high value. Yeah. What is this? This is some sort of lavender. Oh, young loofah is edible. Not for me, man. I'd rather eat steak I don't know what that is chicory chicory chicory dickory dock and then this banana what variety of banana chicory look at this it's a pollinator it's attracting all these bees and things this has got to be a rhubarb something like that an artichoke is that an artichoke oh my gosh and this chicken is like I'm the king here. Tyler's like, no, I'm the king.
24:24 Nice basil though. Look at this little pollinator. This is the thing, man. You do K&F and we talk about that 70% of the bugs dying off, but Tyler is bringing them back to life single-handedly. I mean, everyone else that's doing this too is doing it as well, but he's bringing the bugs back, man. Look at these peppers. Oh, those look tasty. Maybe they're spicy. I don't know. I just got a bunch of hot sauce for my birthday. Peppers. Oh, look at this frog on this plant that I can't say the name of. Dude, how healthy is that? The frog, this is Bob Marley's cousin right here.
25:01 Frog Marley. Oh, look at these. Oh, that's catnip, right? I think. Oh, yeah. And I witness over here making chili pepper chili water from his own peppers hot sauce um look at that dog man that dog is happy but he can't come in the garden no dog you must stay over there on that side the chickens nice nice oh uh what is that jerusalem artichoke or some uh sun sun choke what is it i don't know that's beautiful though i can tell you oh yeah and then so he's making the catnip and he's selling the catnip at his um at his uh coffee shop that's he definitely i do
25:47 remember that it's right in oklahoma city right there um and so if you want to get the kind catnip the perfect herbs look at this cat it looks like it's catty potter i don't know but he's he's chilling, man. Oh, the dog wants the chickens. Yeah. Yeah. Keep that out there. So yeah, that's, that's what he's doing. And he's selling natural farming stuff at his coffee shop and all that. He shared that with me. So that's cool. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks, Tyler, man. That's awesome. I, um, I was, I'm super impressed and I love it when I get pictures, uh, shared back and, uh, Tyler
26:29 came about two years ago now um to stay with us for his um honeymoon and he and his brand new wife had an amazing time and it was just it was so fun to get to meet other young natural farmers and to you know um share this place and you know on the on the right um you know good vibes and stuff so uh thanks man thanks thanks for sharing and yeah when you guys are ready to come back or maybe we'll have to visit you i don't know we'll see we'll see and then um i got another share here i'm gonna try and transition this back over um this was from
27:09 goofman what's up goof um and uh he was showing me because he showed me last year i should i should juxtapose his last year thing oh he he did a little bit but his comfrey in the front yard kicking butt here. I love his peace sign here. He lets people know, hey, this is good vibes in the zone. And looking at his comfrey doing quite well. But the interesting thing is that, you know, for all this climate change and all this climate boiling, he's up in New York and he said, on this day, the temp reached 73 Fahrenheit. August is normally high 90s and it's been very
27:47 cold and rainy this year. So with all the talk about the climate boiling and stuff, here's from New York. I'm not sure exactly where he is in New York, but there's this where he's saying his garden is barely even growing compared to the other year. And so this is where his tomatoes are this year at like this stage where he planted these in May. And this is where it was last year at this same time. So look how much more tomatoes and things. So, um, you know, the folks out there saying the climate's boiling and stuff, um, you know, uh, I don't know. I don't know. There's
28:25 always different things happening. And, um, he said he did pretty good with the bush beans this year and a bit of garlic, uh, and the strawberries and asparagus did pretty good, but the cold weather crops are struggling this year. You know, really small beets and turnips. And it's, he said it's been hard to stay motivated in the garden this year with the bad weather. So I'm hoping, man, that you get good, good season, good, good things coming in. Yeah. And the tomato only six to eight inches tall, you know? And yeah, so man, I wish you, I wish you the best.
29:04 um you know uh it's looking good i mean this well i mean it looks peaceful to be out there and that's for sure but turn some of that comfrey into more plant juice man get it out there get a get the plant food all because this is looking nice this is really beautiful here so anyway i i i appreciate you i appreciate you sending this and you know we all go through our struggles man difficulty at the beginning, right? You know, but keep planting, keep pushing through, keep doing what you do, man. I, you know, I know, I know it's coming for you, man.
29:41 It's going to get good. So appreciate, appreciate you sharing. I just, you know, it's nice to share with everybody back, you know, you've been such a huge contributor to this community. I was just talking with my dad last night, actually, we were talking about, you know, can't have support how it works. And I'm like talking about how the goof man pretty much always beats me to answering the question and better than I could. And, um, just really, you know, appreciating you. So I just, I just want to say, thanks, man. Really, you know,
30:10 wish you the best for the garden too, man. It's, you know, sometimes it's, it's hard. So, um, yeah. And big Wes is saying he has to rush out and cover his peppers from the rain and, yeah everyone everyone it looks like everyone here is doing a little bit harder on the harder on everything he's at Big West is in Ontario and just rainy and not the typical thing so I wish you guys the best that's yeah the goof wisdom milk mustache
30:56 got fresh milk from your cow this guy does me and my wife every day milking the cow although she's going to give birth so I got to dry her off here in a little bit I got like 10 more days of milk 9 more days of milk before I got a dryer off. Then I got to start hustling over to my neighbor to get milk from him. I was just reading hemp on this screen. That's why I said that. Milk from him. And then also, I may as well pop it up here. I got a quite lengthy message. I did read all this. But from Chris. And he is stoked on the things
31:44 and into kind of this new Earth paradigm of where we're headed. But understanding that, like, you know, he's tried a bunch of things, like the Eden wood chip thing on his garden. It turned out he thought it was, you know, misinformation. It took him a couple years to put more microbes down and to bring in biochar and the KNF. And now his, you know, it's bringing productivity back to the dead zone in the center of his garden. So, you know, but understanding he's talking about, you know, he's put in a shed to make more IMOs.
32:23 Um, and, um, he's been also, he had success here, um, where, um, I've developed, he says, I've already developed a protocol using the garlic tincture at one to 1000 to halt bean beetle in blue lake and wax beans. So, you know, he was having a beetle eat his beans, but with just the one to 1000 garlic tincture. So part of the KNF medicine, but just a bit of it, he's able to get rid of the, um, you know, damage from the, these bean beetles. And he says it's normally very susceptible, susceptible to being decimated. And he said the sulfur was not needed. Why bring in a sledgehammer
33:09 to bear when less is more? And I think this is, you know, he, he reiterates a few times that this less is more. And, you know, I always say the less on is not to be a moron. Right. And that was from that was from Elaine, where she said, you know, people always want to be morons, they want to put more on, more on, more on, you know, and but then I added like the less on is not to be a moron, you know, and I'm not sure I invented that or whatever. But I just thought I kind of extended her, her little thing is, you know, she always teases the morons, you know, because you're
33:43 always putting more on, more on. People think it's going to get better if I just put more on it. And then it's like, yeah, but you're becoming a moron, right? So anyway, so he's saying less is more. And there's not even been a beetle since he started putting this garlic tincture. He says the garlic has sulfur and sulfur is kryptonite to beetles. So think about that. You don't need to go heavy sulfur you can just go uh the sulfur from the garlic garlic also has a bunch of other good compounds in it um and it's natural and you want to eat it and plus what do you want to put
34:20 on your beans anyway butter and garlic right am i right am i right yeah at least i am um doing that and um yeah so why not put garlic on it while they're growing and infuse them with garlic right um so and then he's also saying you know um this thought he's been tuning into the office hours every week so what's up Bridger and Chris in the in the house he says it's extremely helpful information which you guys probably already know if you're tuned in here um just thank you for me my service to others and then you know path forward is natural farming we're just doing
34:55 natural farming um things and then his brethren is um putting that into his podcast um and that you know basically this message of um you know uh the new microbial world rising up and you know of uh getting into this and you know he's he's taking photos and observing his gardens doing these things so it'll be cool to see and share and he's sharing that with his his group of folks and um you know just this hope for people that are on the right path of doing the right things to get into there and to do it. Um, and, um, you know, we're, uh,
35:39 we're getting into it. So thanks, man. Thanks. Thanks for this message. It's good. Um, I'll check into some of the little links you sent me and those things. I know you sent me another, uh, another link on the other email here. So I'll check into that and see what's going on, but it's always good to see success, to hear that it's inspiration, to hear that it's sharing, to hear that you're able to like spread this within your community and bring this like more people in um because you know we're we're just you know takes all of us and people that are dedicated
36:10 to the earth of you know understanding how as above so below how you know god is in everything and we all come into this together to like be um you know it's our it's our kuleana it's our purpose, right? And, um, yeah, so, so anyway, I appreciate, um, appreciate this, appreciate these messages coming through, you know, folks that share back, um, you know, it's, uh, here, okay, so we got, we got a, um, thing here, ooh, okay, okay, so, and then I got, uh, Fiesta, Fiesta Cranberry sent me this thing here, so let's just pull this up here,
36:54 because this um i would say that um what you could do in here is to add a little bit of soil to the thing i don't think the hemp herd and everything is breaking down fast enough i think it more a little bit more moisture by spraying with lab be to get it going but then to put a little bit of soil in here too um would help because one of the things that i um just that i'm noticing right here from this is that the hemp uh i forget what you called it hemp back bat so i don't start with a b hemp something i could look back but um it's
37:43 not it's not close enough together there's too much space between so the microbes are in here and there and there and they can't get a homogenous system going. They can't spread their mycelia. They can't get the fungal network going. So a little bit of soil, a little bit of soil into this mix here is going to help here to get this going. The material is too hard and not small enough. Like when I use the grass clippings, the grass clippings press right against each other this material is like leaving airspace between and so a little bit of soil into this
38:21 thing is going to going to work better because yeah you're looking at it here and you see how much airspace there is between all of it and so this is good the the material like at this length but it needs a little bit of soil in there that'll the soil will also help it hold more moisture into this um so so that's my recommendation yeah that's why you know seeing a picture uh you know helps to to diagnose this here but yeah yeah so um get a couple um shovelfuls of soil in fact you know it depends how big your area is but but put enough soil not like not like cover
39:03 it with a layer of soil, but get the soil so that these particles are able to hold together and get more moisture. You see how big these are? And I see the turds, yeah, they're not breaking down. I mean, they look like they're starting to do the IMO, but if, you know, you see how big this particle is, and it's not against that one, this little bit of dirt into there, and it'll help to do it and hold it together. So thanks for this picture, because that's, you know, the chickens are doing their thing it's it's dry in there but they need that soil and the soil will help the
39:37 mycelia spread and do its thing so this is really good that you sent me a picture and you're able to do it like right now because now i can make this diagnosis because before i was talking like you know saying the grass clippings aren't but in this this you know as you add the soil you can make the depth a little bit more but chickens chickens are looking healthy they're looking good um you know i don't see anything on them where they're looking like they're adversely affected from this, but that's looking good. So the soil, help the poop break down, you'll be in
40:08 good business there. So yeah, garden like a Viking. I'll have to check that out and see what he's all about um should i turn it into the ground underneath um so it's dirt under there if it's dirt under there um yeah um i mean just you just need a little loose dirt to mix with your material so the chickens can scratch a little soil in with what they're doing and when they scratch that around it'll it'll help the mycelia all propagate hold more moisture in there it'll help it'll help I don't know if you want to turn it into the dirt below.
40:54 It sounds like a lot of work. I don't know. I'm always for the minimum amount of work, for the maximum amount of returns. My friend calls it holy farming, high output, low input. And it all, he does mostly with the cows. Okay, and then, so anyway, that's going, that's going. And then one last thing I wanted to do here for today, let me go into the studio here, is I wanted to pull up a comment. Excuse me, this was a couple weeks ago. And I just want to let you guys know, I do get comments from you guys, and I try my best to read and reply to them. So Big Wes, he's here today in the house,
41:38 but he was talking about the three main stages of spiritual development, you know, and these things. And I'm okay after the fire, by the way. The fire was not on Big Island, it was on Maui. And bless their souls, I think the world's going to change from this. It's a huge event. Oh man, more microbes, more things. So I do read through these. This is also a great comment. I didn't reply to this one three days ago. But, you know, talking about how the different elements affect plant growth and these things and some folks to check out in New Zealand.
42:25 And but I did want to get down to this comment down here, this one right here. So, Partida is on it when it comes to understanding the science behind this stuff. She really is, you know, she's in Spain. This was 10 days ago, and I didn't reply to this. But this was off the video where I was talking about the banana bunchy top. And let me see if I can make it a bit bigger here. So, why the heck is this doing that? I don't want demographics. What, am I telling them a certain race they're going to treat me differently?
43:11 Dang it. Okay, I've got to make it a bit smaller. Okay. But anyway, I'm just going to read this because it says, Good on you, Drake. Typically, these so-called non-curable diseases occur as a consequence of mineral electrolyte ratios in response to various vectors impacting local redox, which is the reduction of oxygen. Fluctuations may be self-imposed or may be environmental beyond the farmer's reach. And then this opens the door for omnipresent microbes that we have otherwise not noticed or in fact may have been kept through diversity as a willing or zombified subdued beneficial.
43:58 Some microbes change behavior based on the numbers and types of other microbes around them. See, as in the case, if high levels of endophytes versus fusarium and the availability of moisture, heat, oxygen, CO2, pH, and of course, EH, minerals, proteins, carbohydrates, and so on, alter the local community. some microbial communities change a little or entirely because we farmers interfere with systems and deliver substrates and food sources without understanding how these materials select or deselect in favor of particular ratio of life in our soil and we often drive our own ecosystem
44:41 towards a risk state and wonder why which again comes back to the previous thing about the less on is not to be a moron. You know, because sometimes if we don't know, we imbalance it accidentally, right? So, for example, if you apply excess herbicide, you introduce a highly oxidizing product. Knowing porbics, I don't know what that means, we can see how mineral availability is impacted by pH as an example. So, we can see that not only does removing organic matter remove sorption sites for, I think, molybendium, MN, I think it's molybendium,
45:24 or maybe it's magnesium ions, I think magnesium is Mg, but molybendium ions, and the excess oxidization prevents the remaining MN from gaining a bioavailable state, and so our plants can't hydrolysized water, get stressed, consume proteins in panic trying to locate usable MN. This stress attracts insects. Microbes present in the gut get passed to the plant and the lack of MN and oxidative state means these microbes switch to pathogenic risk. Healthy plants have the mineral balance, don't attract basic insects like aphids.
46:05 if you have aphids on your plants and are very your plants are very unhealthy so if you have aphids your plants are very unhealthy aphids are among the most basic of creatures right requiring extremely low bricks to feed without dying raise the bricks by improving microbial communities and fixing the access to all the minerals needed for healthy life so it's one of the ways to get rid of aphids is make your plant healthy manganese okay thank you we got a chemist in the house solar gourmet mn is manganese um i gotta learn my periodic table better
46:40 yeah thank you we got a couple chemists out here you guys awesome clearly i failed chemistry i mean actually i took it in high school it's been a long time um temporary mineral application may also be needed to improve beneficial microbial communities through the process of kick-starting the life. I always think we exist in a quantum state, but our mineral electrolyte ratios keep us in a state of protected harmony. Where we lose mineral balance, we swing into pre-existing world previously passing us by unseen. Oh, passing us by unseen. More often, these can result in a
47:21 negative outcome for us or our plants. Okay, so that's super helpful. I just love the insightfulness of these comments. It's just like, that's why I wanted to read it for you guys. I hope you're finding value in it. Going a little bit into overtime here. I see also chat GPT makes no mention of why aphids carry pathogenic microbes and others in the same community don't. Chat GPT has a long way to go. Come on, chat GPT. um oh yeah okay not uh no one wants to go back to the beginning here they cut down all the almonds
48:01 for xylophastodiza a prolific plant pathogen with about 500 known commercial crops and many many more wild ones besides so they're going and cutting down the crops to like solve a pathogen versus bringing it to health. It's like saying, you're sick. Oh, we'll just shoot you. It's like, what? Oh my gosh. Okay. Oliver Husson defines this microbe occurs as a consequence of a loss of manganese. So she did say manganese. Thank you guys. You guys are right, at least. I mean, there's a consensus here. There's a consensus. MN stands for manganese. But follow the money.
48:45 through a state of increasing unchecked oxidization okay sorry i made a few jokes in the middle of that but let me just start over oliver husson divides defines this microbe occurs as a consequence of a loss of manganese through a state of increased unchecked oxidization so the manganese is going away because the oxidization is just going rampant the ph is not much past neutral when you plot the factors of redox, EH, which, anyone know what EH is? I'm just going to say it's eh, eh, over pH, in a graph so that if we add sources of reduced manganese, we can slow, stop, and not only,
49:29 and kill not only this pathogen, but canker and more besides the, and thus, we don't need to cut down any more trees. So you just need to fix the manganese deficiency through this other process, and you're going to get rid of these things. So that's again why spraying Korean natural farming, all these things are out there. Redox, EH, CAM2, can you say that? I'm not exactly sure what you're saying there, but redox is oxidization or a gain or release of energy. Okay. A process, a process that itself probably helps spread spores anyway and ensures the transit to the next
50:09 location. So if you're cutting down the trees, you're spreading spores. We simply need to use foliar spraying equipment and fix the problems that cause or plants to struggle to access minerals. Right. That's a mineral imbalance, right? So seawater, bring in the KNF minerals, make plant juices from living plants and spray those fish amino acids you know like the fuel the medicine the structure the cleanser we got all these tools that's why the plants recover and that's why korean natural farming works by the way to think these people try to convince me to
50:45 take an untested drug while they tell me stories about how they went to the moon for the win um I gotta now I gotta change how I put this on youtube I gotta anyway it's gonna give me a little box underneath it's gonna say we went to the moon believe us it said it's on wikipedia um the more I see how they respond to real world problems the more I know I'm wasting my time hoping they will provide sensible guidance god bless all the natural farmers so you know um Knowing this all together, thank you, Partita. You are a gem amongst gems.
51:23 I really, you know, seeing this and it stretches my science to the max of like learning about these, you know, it's like, I know Korean natural farming works, but I don't know the why and understanding the redox and his manganese and, and the oxygen and all this stuff. And then cam to drop in this knowledge right now where it's saying redox is oxidization, the gaining or releasing of energy. Redox and EH are the same thing. Cool. Thank you. That's a good clarification for me. pH and EH, so the acidity of things and the
52:02 oxidization work together, creating a swing of accessibility in complete mineral lockout or accessibility. So, you know, I think, I think there's, you know, the plant chemistry, like I didn't go to school for plant chemistry and understanding this, but that if you understand this, or if you're practical, like Big Wes and used to be a welder, then you understand how all these metals work together and different things and all these things work together. So, so knowing this, you know, can really help us, but I just wanted to drop that comment in there. And then
52:39 right before I sign off, I got one last thing. And that is, well, yeah, let's just go here and just say, you know, if you want to come, you want to learn these solutions. Not to say I have all the science and all the answers, but I teach you how to make the solutions as best as I can. In fact, I think I only have one more. I made it. Someone was going to sign up and then didn't. And so I think there's only one more left. So if you want a cabin, there's only one more left for November. So, uh, and somebody said they emailed me to say they were going to sign up, but then I
53:14 don't think they did, um, yet. So as you know, if you're thinking about it, drop it like it's hot, man, get in there. Um, cause looking forward to seeing you at the one here. And then if there's always more space in January as well, uh, January is pretty open still, but, um, but November is almost sold out. So I always have more spots. You can stay at some other place, but if you want to stay on the farm. It's almost sold out. So you want to get in, go and get on the training, KNF farm, stay at those beautiful places you saw in my earlier video where I was chasing my cow,
53:45 not chasing arrows, but, um, just remember, man, difficulty at the beginning, keep, keep charging. You'll, you'll get through it. And, uh, it's all good. Thanks for tuning in. Um, love you guys. It's really, it's really been amazing going on this journey with you and learning more KNF myself, getting, you know, big brain stuff, you know, putting it into action and seeing you guys out there sharing those photos of putting into action, seeing it happen, solving real life problems. What could be better? That's what we need to do.
54:16 So I encourage you vote, vote, vote, vote with your action and just put it into practice. Really, it's more important than voting is what you do each day. And so thank you. Keep it real. yeah thanks Sal all these guys coming in from all over the world and check out Oliver Husson apparently so cool alright I'm going to peace out before I get further down the rabbit hole is that stream finished over here okay ready I'm going to drop this curtain you ready okay bye now