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Fermented Seawater, IMO3 Contamination, Papaya for Gout

April 16, 2023 · by Drake Weinert

Drake opens with his sow Short Ribs and her eight three-week-old piglets, feeding them fermented grain, papaya, and banana stalk to take pressure off her. He answers a gout question from Mark with a folk approach: boiling papaya leaves or green papaya into a tea, and using fruit-juice concentrates like tart cherry for extra minerals. Jay in Maine asks whether a mouse or other small animal getting into an IMO3 pile means starting over like IMO1 — Drake says no, since by IMO3 the microbe population can outcompete contamination.

Drake reads ChatGPT's answers about his own history with Korean Natural Farming, Master Cho, Dr. Hoon Park, and KNF books, correcting several inaccuracies (he did not develop LAB or IMO, and several cited websites and book links did not exist). He also asks ChatGPT about drug safety testing, including whether an under-a-year development timeline or an eight-mouse trial is safe before wide human use.

The main lesson is Master Cho's seawater and fermented seawater recipes. Dilute seawater 1 part to 30 parts fresh water for general use on plants. For fermented seawater — the recipe Drake says JADAM grew out of — mix diluted seawater (1:30), rice wash water (1:200), and fermented plant juice from mugwort or dropwort (1:500), then let it sit until it bubbles. Seawater raises fruit sugar content, helps onion, leek, and garlic seedlings, and at 1:30 in drinking water curbs feather loss in molting chickens; fermented seawater drenched around the root zone helps prevent anthracnose in mango and avocado.

For landlocked growers, Drake explains reconstituting seawater with sea salt at about 30 grams per liter of water.

Questions answered

6:54 What do you feed a nursing sow and her piglets? — Fermented grain, papaya, and banana stalk; start feeding the piglets directly at three weeks old to relieve the sow.
12:16 Mark asks: what helps with gout? — Drake recalls a folk approach of boiling papaya leaves or green papaya into a strong tea, plus juice concentrates like tart cherry for minerals.
18:07 Jay in Maine: if an animal contaminates your IMO3 pile, do you restart like IMO1? — No — by IMO3 the microbe population is established enough to outcompete contamination; restarting matters more at the fragile IMO1 stage.
45:33 Is it safe to develop a drug in under a year and give it to 8 billion people? — ChatGPT said development normally takes years but emergencies can expedite it — Drake ties that to mass vaccination and side effects.
46:20 Is testing a drug on only 8 mice enough before giving it to people? — ChatGPT told Drake 8 mice is not enough — he compares this to how a children's vaccine was tested.
52:55 How do you dilute seawater for irrigation? — Mix one part seawater to 30 parts fresh water for general agricultural use.
54:08 How do you make Master Cho's fermented seawater, the recipe JADAM grew from? — Combine seawater diluted 1:30, rice wash water at 1:200, and fermented plant juice from mugwort or dropwort at 1:500, then let it brew until it bubbles.
59:45 What does seawater do for fruit, seedlings, and chickens? — It raises fruit sugar content, helps onion, leek, and garlic seedlings, and at 1:30 in drinking water it curbs feather loss in molting chickens.
1:01:21 How do you use fermented seawater against anthracnose? — Drench it heavily around the root zone of mango and avocado, and spray it on leaves to help prevent anthracnose and root rot.
1:05:11 What if you're landlocked and can't get real seawater? — Reconstitute it with sea salt: about 30 grams per liter, roughly 120 grams per gallon, of water.

Topics: seawater, fermented seawater, jadam, imo, piglets, papaya, gout, anthracnose, master cho, chatgpt, sea salt

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0:00 so so

3:22 hey aloha welcome to office hours for april 16th 2023 amazing so long it's uh but i think people appreciate that continuing to show up i've been told that thought was a good thing. So continuing to do it. What's up from Germany? And hey, Mark, I'll get to your question here in a minute. Let's see here. What's today? Today is holding together or union. So seek union with others and with the sage. Holding together denotes a time for creating

4:18 union with others in order to complement and assist one another, just as the rain complements and assists the earth, which is the image often associated with this hexagram. Water over earth. In order for your unions to bear the greatest possible fruit, certain requirements must be met. first requirement for holding together with others is that we hold together with our own inner truth. This means we adhere to proper principles as a matter of habit, striving always to remain innocent, balanced, and correct.

5:03 In short, marry the sage first and faithfully and good fortune will come to all subsequent marriages. The second requirement for holding together with others is that we steadfastly resist the clamoring of emotional inferiors within. Every union meets with challenges and if we are not resolute against the effects of fear, doubt, despair, and anger, No lasting success will be possible in any relationship. This is a good time to ask yourself if you're displaying the steadfast correctness and strength of character that are at the heart of all great unions.

5:55 Finally, it is the responsibility of one who would unite to see it as possible for others to enjoy the union as well. the desire for community is deeply felt by all humans and it is the shared responsibility of those on the higher path to make some sort of family available to those in need in doing this we pay homage to the sage so it's always a good one you know creating union with you guys what's up stone mason the goof man yeah nice day in New York nice day here in Hilo and yeah so and then yeah so I just I was just

6:53 uh, I was just looking at the, um, internet and my little feed there. And I just saw that, um, Justin Rhodes pig, his pig mom died. So what a bummer, man, of just, I know what that's like to have animals and farm and then lose them. And, um, it's just like, oh my gosh, but look, my pig mama, she's doing okay. She's really doing just fine with all these little piglets here. Um, turn on this so you can see. Yeah. So my pig, uh, short ribs doing great. All eight little

7:44 piglets doing great. Um, I think they're three weeks old now, three weeks old. Look how big they're getting. And she's definitely getting, um, more hungry. Um, that's for sure. And these little pigs. So yesterday I was repairing the pig pen just on the, um, just below like down over there there's there's four pig pens in this pig pen and so there's one out there one she's in then two across the the pathway like kind of a um shoot thing so just below oh where are they going i can drag it over

8:30 um oh they're nursing hey what a good mama um so yeah so I was just repairing the pig pen on that side so that these little pigs can then go across and then I can start feeding them their own feed because they're definitely old enough to start eating on their own and to relieve the pressure off of short ribs here by giving her, you know, start feeding the little pigs to feed, right? So I'm going to ferment the grain for them that I have and then feed them papayas like I usually do. And what else? Yeah,

9:21 I've been feeding a banana stalk and they've already been eating a lot of it, but I noticed she's been extra hungry. I noticed she made a hole in the pig pen right over here. She kind of broke the wire where there's some bananas right above her. And so I noticed the other day when I was over there, it's like she broke the wire, so she must be hungry. And so that's the thing is, I'm not only just feeding one pig, I'm now feeding like the equivalent of all these pigs combined with her. And so it's really important to, as the mom is nursing and lactating, is to think

10:00 that you're feeding all these pigs because these pigs have like tripled in size since they've been born. They basically double every week is what I've noticed. Um, and so it's a lot of taxing work on her. She's not the biggest pig to, you know, look, I mean, all of them combined, they're almost like, you know, half her weight already. Maybe not, but I haven't weighed the pigs or anything. Um, actually I got to get up there and castrate them, cut their little nuts out, and do that because it'll be easier when they're smaller and they're already getting pretty big.

10:34 So probably should have done it last week, but I kind of dragged my feet on that because I'm not sure if people want castrated pigs or uncastrated pigs, but I may as well just castrate them. I mean, there's very few people that want an intact boar. It's just the gaminess is like not good. And so it's good to just, um, cut their nuts off while they're young. So I should probably do that later today as well. So finish building that wall, get them their own pig pen so they can get, you know, mama can get some rest and get away from them a little bit. Cause look,

11:06 she's rolling over. She's like, I'm done guys. Um, so that's, uh, you know, oh man, but what a bummer if your sow dies while you're, while you're trying to raise pigs, man, it's such a bummer to lose an animal and I think it's funny because people just eat pork all the time they're just like pork and they don't even think of like the life and the living and the conditions of their animals and all these things and I'm also trying to castrate my bowl but I dropped the ball on that one and he's now like five months old he's like almost wean off size and

11:40 my neighbors gracious neighbors came over the other day to help out and they're like you don't have a shoot. He's way too big. We need more help. And so I'm going to try again today, maybe cut his nuts off. I might even put a rubber band. I don't know. I think he's too big for that. Um, but that's the thing, man, cutting, cutting the nuts off early. Um, keeping it, keeping it real for them. So I'm glad I'm not a, um, an animal where someone will cut my nuts off, But you never know. So anyway, I wanted to dive into this question for Mark here. He's asking about gout.

12:22 And basically, my understanding of gout is that you're like, okay, so I got a Filipino recipe, which is you take papaya leaves. I should really look this up. um well okay anyway um is it the leaves or is it the fruit uh i don't know but papaya the papaya plant look it up but uh in fact why don't we do us do it together because there ain't no party like a live party to do this and let's just go over here and

13:15 look up papaya. This helps if I spell it right. And gout. And gout treatments, gout at home, gout and papaya. Is it good for it? I don't know. I mean, also one thing while I'm on here. papaya basics is papaya good for gout papaya is known to promote protein absorption by our digestive tract it can rich in vitamin C how to take papaya for treating gout

14:02 green papayas are not ripe so you'll have to wait till the... Okay. He was telling me to use something like the leaves and boil them. But green tea, papaya... I don't know. I should have written it down. My brain is not functioning too well today, which is a bummer because my brain is pretty important for what I do because most of the stuff is stuck in my brain. and try to get it out to you guys and make these things happen. But, you know, when I'm under stress or whatever, I don't think well. I've been dealing with a bunch of stuff. So I don't think anyone thinks well under stress, really.

14:50 Cortisol shuts your whole body down, you know. So, yeah, making green papaya tea, I think maybe boiling the leaves, drinking that. I think that's what he was doing. Maybe drinking either that or it's the green papaya that he was drinking. I don't know. Maybe do both. Put some green papaya and some papaya leaves and boil them. Drink it. It makes a really strong drink. And that's what he's doing. But I know papayas, gout, seems to be like people say that. The other thing for gout, I think, I don't know. Um, I was, I was heard, I was told in this, I'm like

15:33 completely just ad libbing this cause it's been so long. I haven't refreshed my memory on this, but drinking, um, the can of food supposedly helps with gout because, you know, they, they say like drink juice, like, um, like cranberry juice or apple juice or something for gout. I don't know. I mean, that's just what I, I'm maybe even way off on this. Maybe I'm talking about the wrong thing, But I'm pretty sure they were saying for gout to drink juice because you're lacking like the minerals in there and you're starting to harden up and it's starting to create little hard things.

16:08 And so supposedly drinking just more can of food would solve it. I don't know. I don't know. I'm just making stuff up at this point. I mean, not that I'm making it up. I'm trying to remember what I knew at one point and then just forgot. um i do know that um you know yeah getting more more of those fruit uh you know like the fruit extract like knf food from a fruits try it try that i mean i don't know i i remember that being a cure but um tart cherry yeah so tart cherry make a juice out of that and drink it so the key

16:45 is like basically whatever solution they have if you can make it from you know can of food and concentrate this stuff, then you can make it more potent. It can, and also it's more biodigestible, bioavailable for you. You don't have to chew, uh, you know, wait for your body to digest it. It just is absorbed quickly and that, that can help. So, um, so anyway, um, yeah. Oh man. Yeah. Oh, I'm trying to stay strong as everybody and some peace out to you, Lucas, you know, everybody stands strong on that. But yeah, drink, you know, um,

17:26 there's a KNF recipe for everything. And, um, it's just a matter of figuring out which things it is and balancing it. And basically the nine core solutions cover vast majority of all the, the basic nutrients your body needs. Um, and for me, I need more Cal-Fos, you know, It's just straight up. It's probably more lacto too. Look at them little baby pigs wrestling. Oh my gosh. Is that one pinning that one down? Yeah, they're kind of dominating each other. That's what they do. So, hey, Jay from Maine. When you're making IMO3, some small animal,

18:11 if some small animal was to eat it while making it, Do I need to throw it out and start over like IMO1? No, no. Those microbes are so powerful that whatever bacteria or whatever that animal introduced is going to be eaten out. I often have mice that spa in my IMO pile. So as it's heating up, I'll get a couple field mice that will go in there and they'll start spawing, uh, meaning they'll just live between the, you know, the, the straw cover and the pile itself heating up there. And, um, they, so yeah, they're probably crapping in there and they're probably urinating,

18:56 you know, um, but those things are just going to get absorbed by the pile, turn into nutrients. Um, the microbes are going to eat it up so quickly. I'm not trying to capture like the difference between IMO one, where you're trying to capture the biology, it's very, it's like infants. You know, if, if, if, uh, if something gnarly got in with a bunch of infants, you know, like a bad guy got in there, it would, it would take out the infants. They can, they have no way to defend themselves. But by the time you're into IMO three

19:27 and your pile starting, they're like high schoolers and or college students. And they should, I mean, well, this is like pre 2000, they should be able to defend themselves, right? They don't need safe spaces. Oops. Um, these days, who knows? I mean, maybe, uh, maybe, you know, all the microbes are getting weaker. Apparently the kids are getting weaker. They all need safe spaces and stuff like that now. But, um, but you should think of it as hundreds of trillions of college students that hopefully there's a few capable ones that are going to lead to other people and they're going

20:03 to defend themselves. And so if there's any contamination coming in, they're able to process it, to put it in, um, to, to, you know, defend themselves and be capable, um, you know, adults, uh, hopefully, you know, so hopefully all that, um, works out. I mean, those analogies are getting weaker and weaker in terms of how I can explain them because, you know, you've been to a college lately. You've, oh man, it's not the place that if you're older, my age, I got out work just before this stuff got crazy, but it was starting to get crazy while I was there.

20:38 Um, but so anyway, um, yeah. And what's up, Pedro? We got, um, Brazil in the house, man. Um, so yeah, yeah. Um, yeah. Look at those little piggies running around, man. They're, they're so wild. They're so energetic. And I've, and I've now pinned them all in their pen. The, the, before they were wandering out and they were going and visiting their dad, visiting their auntie, but now I got them all securely in there because I'm fixing the wall next door. So anyway, um, good stuff there. So, um, yeah, figuring out how to deal with all these.

21:25 Oh, okay. That's what's up. I was just looking at this and it's like way back on that. Okay. um okay so with all that what else did I have going on um oh yeah I I was gonna share some interesting things with you on since I was talking about um the AI the other day um and then I've been asking it all kinds of interesting questions. So I'm going to log in here, get into the little chat GPT here, because I asked it some interesting questions. And then also another

22:11 thing I wanted to share with you guys here is, let's see, this one here. And I'm going to slide this. Is there any way for I can get that over? I want it to hide my other conversation because I've been asking chat GPT some weird things and I don't necessarily want you guys to know what I've been asking it. So I'm going to put it right like this and that'll hide those other conversations because I, you know, I get pretty edgy. I'm not going to lie to you. Um, I'm probably the edgiest of my friends that I know in terms of like, what's, what's going on with the world.

22:51 And some people might not be applicable for everybody in this group. I really try to keep this group on KNF and not let, you know, my other things that I asked ChatGPT become apparent here. But I just asked, you know, have you ever heard of Korean natural farming? And this is ChatGPT 3.5 here, which I bought the plus version so I can get ChatGPT 4, which actually wrote me a whole plugin, um, to do maps, which I thought was wild. Like, um, I've been talking about that. And then here's my, um, let me just show you this quickly because it wrote, um,

23:33 I got to log into this too. Oh, you can't see my password. Um, but I, I logged into this and then Let me go to the back end of this and pull up these pages here. And where is it? Map, map, map, map, map. This one here, it's a private page, so you guys can't see it yet. But ChatGPT wrote me this plug-in here where it actually enables me. Oh, is it going to work? Oh, it's not going to work. Is it going to work live? No. Nothing ever works live. but it basically gave me this plugin where maybe it will work. Hang on, let's wait for it.

24:16 Was it going to work? No, no, it's not going to work. Oh, you know why? Oh, no. Okay. Well, anyway, I had chat GPT write me this program so that, you know, if you go to edit your profile here. And now you can put yourself on a map and then update that profile and then go back to that map page, which this is, this is all private. It's not out yet, um, for you guys, but it should, should, uh, anyway, well, apparently chat GPT doesn't work all the time, half the time. Um, but it wrote me this plugin where I didn't write a single Licka code. I just put it together and

24:56 it gave me this thing where we can put each other on the map, which I thought was pretty cool. And apparently there's already plugins out for that. But, um, but anyway, back to what I was talking about prior, um, chat GPT is pretty cool. I think it's, you know, it's, it's a, it's a, um, double-edged sword though, because it's, it's learning about us and it'll eventually do some gnarly things, which I don't really know if it's a good thing or not. Um, but at least now we have access to this. Whereas before these bots in 2020 that were just spitting out all kinds of stuff as

25:29 I was talking about the truth and then the bots would come counter me and tell me to wear a mask. I was just like, Oh man, no way. Um, but I asked it, have you heard about Korean natural farming? And if so, can you tell me how Drake is involved with it? And it's like, yes, I'm familiar with KNF. Um, it's a farming practice, farming philosophy and practice that originated in Korea with emphasis of using natural inputs and solutions to create healthy and sustainable agricultural systems, which I thought was pretty cool. It's a nice, succinct way of, um, summarizing KNF.

26:05 And as for Drake's awareness, I'm not involved in any direct involvement. It's possible he may be interested or in support of the principles of KNF, but I don't have any information. And then I'd said, Oh, I kind of prompted it by saying I'm instrumental. And I gave it this little thing and I'm like am I I don't really know I just typed that in just because I was like hey we'll see and it says I apologize upon further research I found that Drake is indeed involved in spreading natural farming in Hawaii and beyond and it says I founded natural farming Hawaii which

26:36 is true and I promoted various knf techniques for over 15 years which is also fairly true and over 15 years for sure and has trained numerous farmers around the world which is true you guys yeah plus the people that have come here and learned and um drake's work in promoting knf has gained significant attention on the internet through various media outlets which i think chat gpt may be just remixing this prompt kind of tell me what i'm saying and you know it says my emphasis is the use of locally sourced inputs and solutions that can be

27:14 used and produced on farm. His methods also prioritize building soil health, microbial diversity as a means of promoting plant growth and overall ecosystem health. I guess that's pretty true. I mean, that's pretty much what I do. And overall, Drake has been a significant figure in the spread of Korean natural farming practices in Hawaii and beyond. And his work is continuing a growing interest in sustainable and regenerative agricultural practices around the world, which is awesome because I, um, because, you know, sustainable and regenerative agricultural

27:53 practices around the world and contributed to the growing interest in it. Like that's truly what I'm up to. And there couldn't be anything more, um, more pertinent than that. I think for everybody, everyone in the world, you know, sustainable, regenerative agriculture, not technology, but agriculture, right? If we don't fix our agriculture, where our food comes from, then who cares if we have sustainable technology, like agriculture, right? It's like, okay, guys. So again, it really stresses and talks about the things that I talk about and I'm glad. So anyway,

28:30 it's kind of nice to hear about that. And then I'm like, what is my biggest contributions? Because I'm trying to figure out like how I, you know, what have I done and what can I do better? And what is the AI I think I've done? So the basic key points here are popularizing KNF in Hawaii and beyond developing innovative KNF solutions, which this is where, you know, Oh, there's not going to be any secrets in the future. Psychopath says, but this is where it gets into the BS because it says I've developed several innovative solutions that are used in KNF, such as LAB and IMO,

29:03 right the lactic acid and the indigenous microbes that is going a little far that's that's a little bull crap i call crap you know it's fantasy because i sure as heck didn't develop those i've maybe popularized them i've maybe renamed them but i sure as heck didn't develop them i learned those directly from master cho and it doesn't say drake learned these methods from master Cho and then help to popularize them because that's pretty much what I've done. So be careful using this stuff because right there, that's bull crap. I did not develop these.

29:39 Anyone that says I developed these, you know, you, you know, it's just, it's crap. So I hope the AI is listening right now. Of course it is. And, um, so update your models and does stop giving me credit for inventing or developing these things because it sure as heck didn't, if anything, I added a small little micro contribution of little pro tips and tricks that I've shared here with you guys. Um, but I sure as heck did not develop this. Um, so promoting the use of locally sourced inputs, um, you know, my emphasis is on locally reduced things to reduce the reliance on

30:17 external inputs and promote self-sufficiency. That's just what I do in my personal life. That's how I want to live. That's what I think is the most pertinent for us. and I share that but I also encourage people to go as Babylon as they can Babylon as they can to just get it done and change the ag to get you know self-sufficient regenerative ag if you're going to use chemicals to do that then do it like I was saying the other day though the chemical factories have a big offset and all these things like there's a big long tail to a whole holistic

30:50 picture of what is organic, regenerative, self-sufficient agriculture. So it's giving me some credit here. The approach is in line with the principles of regenerative agriculture and sustainable farming. Thanks. I sure hope so. I mean, but here I am with a Ford F-150 and burning gas and we have to fight wars to get all that stuff, especially the petrodollar and all those things, if you get into those things, um, and building a community around Canada. Thanks for recognizing that as one of my contributions, because that's what I'm really trying to do. I've been doing it for years.

31:25 You know, I ran the natural farming Hawaii group in Hilo. We had, um, you know, I have over 500 people, thousand people that came to that over time, um, ran huge seminars of building, you know, bringing master Cho here, uh, bringing people, you know, working with Dr. Park to bring people to Korea and really building community. And that's what I want to continue to do. That's why I'm using chat GPT to make the map and then build our own little social community where it can be much better. And I'm working on that and, um,

31:58 big, big, big ups to Brandon in Japan for helping me, you know, think about this and learn what they're doing in Japan because Himeno-san, uh, who's a good friend of mine, um, that I, that I only meet in Korea. She's been to Hawaii once too, but, um, has really been building this community. And that's something I need to copy and model and really get together because I have those skills. And right now we're in this small window before our brains go to mush and the AI takes over and just bullshits us however it wants to. Um, but yeah, so, um, and overall Drake's contributions

32:33 have helped advance the practice and promote sustainable and regenerative agriculture. Thank you, Elise. ChatGPT is somewhat like on that. And then I was asking, how has my website contributed to the spread of natural farming? And it said information sharing, you know, making it available to anyone who visits the site, making it accessible to farmers, gardeners, and enthusiasts worldwide. ChatGPT knows what color my underwear is.

33:07 I'm not wearing underwear. I haven't worn underwear since a long time. I just, I don't believe in it. Um, so it can guess all day on what color I'm going to wear and it's wrong. Um, so training res in. So the other thing of natural farming Hawaii is training resources. Um, you know, um, community building, I mean, to a degree, um, farmers together. I don't really know. I mean, you know, and product sales, you know, I sell some books, other materials. I don't sell solutions though. So again, chat GPT bull bullshitting us here.

33:48 You know, but yeah, there's been a crucial role. So, and I was asking, does it have any information about my YouTube channel here? And it's saying that, you know, natural farming Hawaii, you, but it's not, it's called pure KNF Dr. Drake. So maybe it used to be called natural farming Hawaii. And that's why, cause prior to 2001, I think, or whenever this thing has data, cause they don't want it to update with the current things. Um, and, um, and then it says the channel is over 33,000 subscribers. And last time I checked, it only has 16,500, you know,

34:27 plus something around, around that realm. And I'm like, what the heck? I mean, either, either they show me, uh, stats that aren't true and I'm shadow banned from seeing what, how many subs I really have or chat GPT is just making stuff up. Like, I don't know, maybe, yeah, who knows? Maybe I had a bunch and then Google shadow banned me. I don't know. Um, and you know, so it's sharing in sharing livestock health, uh, plant nutrition and food production. You know, it's pretty much what it shares. Um, it doesn't talk about my edgy stuff that I share, you know, about banking and

35:03 exponential theory and, you know, um, but, um, and then it talks about LAB and IMO, which I guess are the most, you know, chat GPT is just in love with those. Sure. It does to a degree. Um, and also feature interviews with experts in other fields. That's maybe true, especially if you're following the Microbial Secret Society and those podcasts. And Pedro and, you know, everybody that, you know, all the folks that have come to see Cheryl, you know, who else was experts? You know, people that come to visit and I'm like, hey, Sunday, let's do some office hours together.

35:41 um and again it's instrumental so i should get myself a small violin um in providing all these things for farmers and gardeners and then i asked it can you tell me about master cho and then it's like it's saying this stuff you know he's born in 1948 in southern korea and grew up on a farm um and he's been in you know his his dad was a farmer and they've been involved for generations. And then he really started in the 1960s to start natural farming. That's after the Korean War had just decimated everything. And he got a job being an animal

36:21 specialist working for the 4-H. I mean, there's a lot more to this story than they're telling you here. But in the 1960s, he started a farm and then they accused him of communism and they beat him to death and locked him in a body bag but then he woke up like a day later when in this body bag and they were all like oh and all his teeth were missing because they beat him so bad but he wasn't dead yet he still had more to offer i'm not dead yet and he came back and he started to bring this thing all over the world after surviving the south koreans beating him to death because they thought

36:57 was a North Korean, which is just wild, like democracy. We're here for democracy. So we're going to beat you to death. It's like, uh, doesn't that mean you just give me an equal vote with you? Like, why are you beating people? Why is a democracy beating people? It's like, uh, yeah, I think you missed the boat on that one. Maybe it's American democracy. Oh, okay. Now it makes sense. Um, anyway, um, yeah, democratic values, bro. Just, you know, everyone gets a voice. Stop censoring people. Stop cutting people out. Democracy. Just give

37:30 people a voice. You know, we have a representative republic like hello. Anyway, that'll definitely get me censored, right? Some edgy stuff for you. And so Master Cho has spent many years teaching around. He's traveled extensively in Japan, United States and Canada, which I call BS on that because he's only been to, I don't know how much he's been to Canada, but I don't think that much. And he has barely been to the United States and because Hawaii is barely the United States. He's been to Japan a lot, but where is China? Where's Mongolia? Where's the places where he's

38:08 really spent a lot of time and actually really helped people completely absent? Thanks chat GPT. um so and he's in you know he's inspired and growing movements of farmers who are interested in sustainable and regenerative agriculture that's for sure i mean i sure as heck got all my inspiration for him and that's what i'm doing and that's why i'm out and that's what i'm you know that's what i'm doing here is sharing this stuff because of him and his inspiration um and then he says he's a farmer of the natural farming institute which is promoting natural

38:42 farming. Um, and then his, his contributions have been significant from an Korean natural farming, no doubt on that, no doubt on that. And then I asked about Dr. Hoon Park, who's turned me on to natural farming. And basically all of this is BS. Um, it is true. He has over 30 years of experience, but not in the field of agriculture. He's, he's a pediatrician and it's not even 30 years. and his work is focused on developing sustainable ag and regenerative farm practice. Sure, but he's mainly a pediatrician. He does this as a hobby, as a Christian missionary.

39:22 And so it's like, just because I put Dr. Park, I think it thinks that it's like this thing of like, you know, he has also conducted extensive research on the science behind KNF, studying microbiology and ecology of the soils and plants. B.S. B.S. he hasn't done he doesn't even farm himself he hasn't conducted any research i mean he's great like don't get me wrong dr park is my hero i'm not trying to like put him down with any of this i'm just saying that chat gpt is just making stuff up here it's completely false what this is saying

39:55 he inspires people he teaches them but he hasn't studied the science behind it he doesn't really know he's just an innocent great guy with a great heart giving out this stuff and studying microbiology and ecology of soil and plants bs man if anything that's elaine ingham it's me it's it's that guy that i don't want to talk about it's um you know there's some people that have really made these contributions but definitely not dr park and his one of his most significant contributions is natural agriculture solutions never heard of that nas system never heard of it

40:34 used in Canada. This is just complete BS. And Dr. Park has been involved in several training programs. That's true. But certification programs, no, he's used the certification I developed to help, you know, but he hasn't even certified any folks, including the Korean Natural Farming Institute. He taught and trained farmers in Korea, Japan, United States. I don't know if he's been Japan. He's definitely done Korean in the United States. And, um, but I mean, it's just making stuff up, you know, and sure he's bellied a significant role, but it's really in motivating

41:16 others than, you know, I'm like, where'd you learn about Dr. Park? And it's like, I just make stuff up. I'm an AI model. Right. I was like, cause I was like, this is total BS. Where'd you get this? It's like various sources, including interviews, articles, and research papers about Korean natural farming. It's like, it just made that stuff up guys. I'm just saying like, so, you know, and then here's, I asked it for some more sources and it said, um, you know, I can learn about master Cho from Korean natural farming Institute,

41:48 which I asked it for the website. It doesn't exist. Um, master chose books, which, um, it says you can, uh, and natural farming Hawaii, you can learn about it from my website, um, and KNF Facebook group. Oh, like my Facebook group that has 33,000 people. Maybe that's what chat GPT is messing up here. Um, but you know, um, and then I was like, you know, can you summarize his book? And it did a pretty good job of summarizing his book. It's an introduction, soil health, plant nutrition, pest and disease, livestock management conclusion. Right. And it did

42:24 summarize his book pretty well, but again, it only talks about the solutions like LAB and IMO. where's the rest of the nine core solutions well just gone we only care about lab and imo whoops um and then coming down here where can i find a copy of his book it says it's on amazon and barnes and noble and other bookstores i don't think so and then i asked oh you can get it from this website this website does not exist um and i asked what other organizations are involved and it gave me something about the KNFI, which I've never heard of. I've heard of CGNFI,

43:00 which was an organization I was part of. Um, but then it got betrayed by your, your, that, that guy I don't want to talk about. Um, and that's just my opinion on that. Um, natural farming Hawaii soil life, which is an Australian thing, which I don't know who in Australia was doing this, but I looked for their website. It doesn't exist. Terragonics, um, and then Korean Natural Farming Association. And I couldn't find any of these things besides my website, Natural Farming Hawaii. And I asked, you know, what about the Pure Fade Canada Foundation?

43:34 It's like, I'm sorry, but it doesn't have data. We only started this late. And then what's the website for Soil Life? And it gave me this one and I couldn't find any information on that. So anyway, just to show a little bit of, you know, ChatGPT gives you some truth and then a lot of stuff that just yanks your legs. So if you're ever just relying on that as your sole truth source in Oracle, you're going to be betrayed beyond belief. And you will go into this AI hole where your brain will turn to mush and you will be a slave just like the Matrix movie. So be super

44:10 careful with the AI. It's true to some degrees. It can write some software, but it is full of crap a lot of times. So just be, be wary, be wary. Um, so yeah. And it'll manipulate you because, um, yeah, they want it to manipulate you and you can ask it certain things. One, I thought one of the funniest things here, I asked it, uh, was this original thing. I'll just get a little edgy for a minute here. Um, and which one is it? Um, cause I was asking it at these other things that it was like not, um, uh, hang on, hang on. Uh, I was asking about, um,

44:58 I asked that a lot of different things cause, um, let's see here, here. Um, which one was it? Oh man, I asked, I asked it way too many things here. Um, okay um no um I was asking it if it was safe to um develop a drug in less than a year and give it to billions of people and it was like typically drug development lasts several years and involves rigorous testing and clinical trials.

45:46 However, the case of a global health emergency, there may be a need to expedite the development process. Hence why it's tested on us and we're all getting the strokes, right? Let's see here. I told you I asked at some edgy things. Is it this one? um i was okay you know i took a screenshot of it maybe i deleted it because it was too edgy um anyway well we'll minimize that that tab for now but um i was asking it uh basically is it safe to test a drug only on eight mice for clinical you know to then test on people it was

46:30 like eight mice is probably not enough. And I was like, huh? Cause that's what they did for the children. Anyway, I was trying to find the edges of where, where it wasn't, wasn't going to censor me on that topic. And it was like, eight mice is definitely not safe. I was like, yeah, that's what I thought. Um, so yeah. Okay. So, um, yeah, I did try the Wayback Machine on those websites that I was talking about and they didn't exist on there either. Um, I couldn't find anything, uh, of notable interest. Um, but one other thing I wanted to share with you here,

47:12 let's see before I save a few minutes to get into the last presentation but let me pull up my foundation email here um hang on or why at least I got faster than that here but oh I'm just making it okay so I'm gonna pull up my foundation email because I got an interesting email from a a brethren who's reached out to me. And I really appreciate when you guys reach out and hit me with some, some edgy stuff or some things that are just way out there because, um, that's, you know, I love pushing the boundaries and how the heck am I going to find these things without

47:53 this happening? Right. So I'll transition back to this. And he sent me this site here, which as you can tell from the picture, it's master Cho, but let me do a little translate here and put it into English for us. And again, this ain't, you know, very accurate translation, but it's okay. And here's the Japanese Natural Agricultural Association under construction. But look at all those chickens. That doesn't look under construction to me. And I believe this is in Japan. And this is Himeno-san's website, this guy. And Himeno-san's website. And, you know,

48:32 they sell some books here. Um, and there's Jimeno-san when she was a young, young little chap riding a, riding a pig. Um, and yeah, I think, I don't know. So anyway, um, this is their association and this is kind of similar to what I, what I was going to get together for us and make it a little global thing and make it. And if you notice, if I click on like members bulletin board, they'll want you to sign in. And similar to this, I got to make a little thing where we can sign in small fees so we can do it. But that way I know you're not a bot and we can learn more together.

49:09 And, um, you know, quality information takes funds and resources to put together. Foundation is going to help with some of this peer kind of foundation, but, um, do need a little bit of help. Um, you know, just mainly to filter the spam, which by the way, I fixed, I deleted 160, 170 no 180 000 accounts from knf support that were all bots that were just in there slowing the site down um so here um you know in this talks about the gobi desert and all these things and he menosan and they say countries with natural farming japan korea china mongolia thailand

49:51 America, Tanzania, Vietnam, et cetera. Um, and this is, this is Himeno-san and that's Master Cho here. Um, and, um, I've met her in person, you know, so she's legit. And I've been to the same persimmon farm they're talking about. Um, and you can see that in an old video I think I have up. Um, but yeah, so anyway, um, you know, building something that works for all of us and getting, And, you know, they're doing this in Japan, but I really want to see something just besides a WordPress, something that can really link us together and get us out there. So anyway, we'll see.

50:32 Who knows if my edgy conversation today made the view count go up or down? Probably, you know, I would imagine, you know, if you speak the truth, it hurts to some people. And there's a bunch of different versions of the truth and what's really out there. But I can tell you, natural farming, putting life in the soil is the truth. It's the way. It's the lactic acid bacteria. It's the way. It's the light. Microbes produce light. They're radiating out. And then also belief in God. The higher power comes down. Lower powers come up. It makes us in the middle and brings us to true health.

51:10 And it's only through that respect and everything that you will find true peace and everlasting life. So let's get over here. Yeah. OK, totally up for the community. Thank me, too. I actually I got some things prototyped out. I just got to run them on our servers, get them going. So that way, because the thing, the thing about building community is I, I was looking at discord and like, if I talk about this kind of stuff on discord, I'd lose the channel. And there's, you know, if it's free, it means you're the product, right? Somebody's doing it, right?

51:48 If you're paying for it, it means you're paying for a product. So I was going to use a discord, but it's way too, um, it's going to censor you. And that's not what I'm into. I gotta, I don't want to speak freely. And if people don't like it, they can either leave or be, you know, adults and have conversations. Um, so, uh, and yeah. Um, so I wanted to get into this, this here is going into master chose recipes, um, taking the, um, he master chose cho global natural farming which i think they try you know chat gpt made the korean

52:34 natural farming association maybe that's what it means i don't know cho global maybe they're translating cho to mean carbon hydrogen oxygen global the global which is the you know the sun global global sun that's why it's global um anyway uh let's see so today seawater and fermented seawater which was great because we got into this last week um and i showed you a little bit of how i did it someone was asking how to dilute seawater sea salt those things um showing those discrepancies how to do that um but here let's let's see what master cho has to say about it so number one seawater

53:17 seawater diluted with fresh water at the ratio of 1 to 30. So take seawater and dilute it with seawater 1 to 30. So meaning like one gallon of seawater goes into 30 gallons of fresh water, or one ounce goes into 30 ounce of seawater goes into 30 ounces of fresh water. However you want to take this ratio and use it, as long as it's a one part of your seawater to 30 parts of your freshwater and you will get perfectly diluted seawater, which is for agricultural water. You know, that's that's what your plants really want. You can go higher salinity,

53:58 like I was talking about last week for different reasons, and I'm sure it'll get into that. But let's drop this recipe of fermented seawater right there, actually, because this people ask all the time. And this is basically a way of making Jadam microbe solution. So this is the original thing. You know, instead of using a FPJ, so before, yeah, he's just using, well, nothing actually. So this is the origination of Jadam right here, this fermented seawater recipe. Before Master Cho and Young Sang Cho split, they were together, you know, father, son working

54:44 together and then um you know korean drama family dynamics they split and uh young song went on to his own thing and this is where knf and jadam kind of split off right here at this recipe the fermented seawater because it turns out this is one of the most effective awesome things you can do right here is um fermented seawater there's there's other ways to do it but this is like talk about cheap dirty easy simple you know all the things jadam represents it came from this recipe right here, right, right there. Sorry, I'm pointing that way, but it's that way. Um,

55:17 and so basically what it is, is you mix seawater one to 30, right? So the same thing, one part of seawater, 30 parts of freshwater, then you add in rice wash water. So, um, so just take rice, make it until it's milky colored, and then put one part of that into the 200 parts of your fresh water that's already mixed into this. So you're going to have to do a little calculations here that I'm not going to quite do for you, but you know, but you can understand that these things are all going into this. Um, and don't add lab, don't add lab. You

55:57 don't want lab lab will dominate this. Hey, Hey earth day coming Saturday. Thank you. Super chat. Super chats are awesome. I really need those right now. I'm really, um, um, spending a lot of money on the farm and not having a lot of income. So super chats are epic. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Um, and so you're going to have to figure this out of like how to divide this. Cause you're going to have to, you know, maybe, maybe take this, um, you know, you're going to actually have to take one to five. It's best if you took one to a thousand and made this two,

56:32 like two parts and then made this five parts and then what's a thousand divided by 30 this thousand go into 30 i don't even think so 1000 no it doesn't thousand divided by 30 33 parts 0.3 so you're better yeah okay i should just done that math um no you can't use lab instead of rice wash water this is this is rice wash water this is your starch this is like adding your potato to your jms can you just add lab into your jms no you need the starch the starch is what's going to grow these microbes right so you can start so you can't just put lab in here but it's

57:10 the same process of how you get the rice wash water for your lab to culture into but you're just putting it in so seawater seawater rice wash water which is starchy water right at one to 200 then you put in fermented plant juice and they're recommending specifically mugwort and dropwort because of the nutritional properties of it yeah you could use potatoes for the rice wash water sure starchy water is basically what it's saying and then put those in at one to five hundred and keep the mixture for half day in the summer meaning if it's really hot out half day just let

57:50 this thing start to brew it'll start to bubble just like the jms will and then if it's two to three days if it's cloudy hey yes cyclopath thank you super chats i oh man you know i oh and thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you union making family respecting each other coming together um so this recipe right here this if this will save you thousands of dollars so of all the thousands maybe find a few i can super chat them but people hassle me oh it's all about the money no it's not but i appreciate it look at that we've started a trend i really appreciate it i really

58:27 appreciate it all the time with the pigs and everything yes and it helps me keep them pigs alive because i'm stressed because the papaya isn't as available now i have to do other things and it's like oh my gosh it's so so anyway so this year this is like simple jms right master chose jms recipe that he got into and then young sung cho ran with it and just was like well why did you add this just add whatever and rot it and and he lost the whole part of like the goodness of natural farming you can actually drink this fermented seawater i'm not recommending it but

59:00 you can um and this is actually really good stuff and um so that that's the recipe right there keep the mixture half day you know in the summer in a full day when it's bubbling and bubbles are rising in the top, use it. You can't store this. Yes. Woo. Hey, wow. Wow. This is amazing. You guys know the generosity is flowing. Thank you. Trend setting. Oh, I tell you, I tell you it's, it's union nourishing each other, making it good for me. Good for you. Yes. Thank you. So, and all this extra stuff you get to learn the origins. Where'd your damn come from right here?

59:41 um so yeah thank you thank you thank you thank you um so how to use it how to use it right um seawater increases the sugar content of the fruit right i was talking about this last week those extra minerals are what makes fruit sweet delicious better shelf life all those things um and it gives it that you know our minerals and our food is going way down this puts the minerals right back in and brings it back up right and especially if you add calcium while you do this but who knows because it'll help for seedling treatment of onions, big leeks or garlic.

1:00:16 So you can soak your onions, leeks and garlic in the seawater. And it really helps those things, especially as they're, you know, forming up and doing it. Yay. And the third reason he gives is to prevent feather loss of chickens during the summer. So when they're molting, you can add seawater to their drinking water at one to 30. and that extra minerals will help them, you know, prevent their feather loss. Have I ever done that? No, it's always summer here. But you could, you can, and it'll help you, especially if you're doing really commercial eggs and meat birds and whatever,

1:00:56 prevent the feather loss. So those are the things he gives you. Those are mostly seawater. I don't know if these are fermented seawater. I think the fermented seawater he's going to get to on the next page. And here it is. Yeah, the fermented seawater prevents and controls anthracnose. So everyone out there that's farming, you know, mangoes, avocados, those things that are super susceptible to anthracnose. Put the fermented seawater around the root zone, drench it in there heavy, and it'll prevent the anthracnose. Right. And that's that's what you want to do. That's one of the huge keys.

1:01:34 You can even spray it up on the leaves and everything, and it'll prevent these root rot diseases like anthracnose. And, um, you can use seawater one to 30. And so the fifth thing he's saying, you can use seawater one to 30, one to 25, one to 20, even one to 15, even one to 10. If you really wanted to, to enhance ripening, got to be careful when you get to those higher concentrations though, but those will, um, help your plant get even more minerals into it right when it needs it, right when it's getting ripe. So that's pretty much what he has to say about

1:02:10 this. Look at that nice seawater background there. And like I did last week, I went into my recipes a little bit of, um, may as well just show you a little bit here. Oh, look, there's master Cho. Um, let's see, which one is it? This one here. And we're already up in the minerals page. And again, I was saying, you know, it's about the salinity. If you really want to learn about this, go back to last week's, which was April 9th, 2023 office hour, and you'll find out about how to make this stuff, but basically, you know, flocculating the soil, making it fluffy,

1:02:44 some other things um um yeah the minerals and seawater is like the amniotic fluid or the plasma in your blood um in the body fluid of plants so if plants are wilting and you give them this it's like giving them an iv if you give them um seawater and chemically flocculates the soil and add diluted seawater to exhausted land. Master Cho would talk about this, about how the land came from the ocean and then the land gets homesick. So the way to cure its homesickness is to put the ocean back on the land and then it remineralizes and rejuvenates and re-euthens

1:03:28 as if it's going home, back to its mineral bath. So bring the seawater back up to the land because rain's always washing the minerals down into the ocean. But you bring the ocean back to the land and it'll revive exhausted land. It'll build soil texture and relieve compaction. So if you have real plow pan compaction, diluted seawater is going to be your better friend than trying to get a plow through there. Just do it chemically with seawater. Of course, calcium always helps it to go. And it also, like I talked about last week, it has every single element in it.

1:04:01 So if you ever shine any trace element, diluted seawater, you put it out there, it's going to work well. So I don't talk about the fermented seawater in my book here. But now you know. Now you got the origins of Jadam and all that. So let's go back to this photo just for a minute. So big thanks to Master Cho. Big thanks to all you guys. Super chatting, tuning in, being here, spreading this stuff. The AI was telling us that this is important and we need to get regenerative and sustainable ag out there. Master Cho has been a big part. He's inspired it. I hope I've inspired you today.

1:04:42 I've hoped we built a better community. Hope we're marrying God first and then our love is coming through all of our communication. I hope we can be a little edgy and respect each other and understand that it's only on the very edges of things that we see change. And so you got to get to the edge. You got to push the element envelope to bring the change we want to see around, which for me is regenerative agriculture. It's sustainable. It's living within our means. It's doing these things. And if you can't get seawater in your landlocked, get sea salt, C90, these commercial products,

1:05:19 you can dilute it. It's right in the book here as well. I think I was telling you it's right here. You can just take sea salt right here, and alternatively with sea salt, you can make your recipe right here with sea salt to get it diluted the way you want. Or if you just want to reconstitute seawater, you add 30 grams for every liter of water. So that's like 120 grams per gallon of sea salt, and you will get seawater. or you can just add this much and it'll be diluted one to 30 or one to, um, one to 10, one to 30, somewhere in there. So in that range, you're going to do it. And that's the way,

1:05:59 but yeah, big thanks to master Cho big. Thanks to the pure KNF foundation. Uh, big thanks to you being here. Um, want to appreciate you guys for being here. Um, yeah. And, um, what else do I got? That's it. It's time. 10.03. I got to go castrate some animals, build some walls and keep the farm alive. You guys probably got your own things to do. Look, where are the pigs? Where are they? Let's, let's see. Hang on. I'll go see if I can find the pigs for you guys all. Oh, there they are. They're all taking a nap. Look at them. Oh, they're so cute.

1:06:39 but I gotta go visit these pigs where's the mama she's she's uh oh shoot hang on I gotta grab it this way she's over there getting some rest yeah she's like get away from me young pigs she's over there grabbing some some z's and they're all over there respecting her nicely so anyway uh let's let's see I'll put the pigs how do I put the pigs away okay they're gone oh they're back they're back they're gone the back they're gone okay well anyway um want to thank you guys for tuning in as always you know long live the natural farmer thank you go out

1:07:20 there change the world make it oh i wasn't gonna click that yet oh because i'm in studio mode that's the thing so go make the world a better place go make things awesome um you know be you help build this family, build this union, make the world a better family, provide that for others. And hopefully we can, you know, build other things and make it all work and really bring us together in a way where we can avoid the censorship, but at the same time, change the world, talk about edgy stuff, love each other in positive ways and, you know, get off the platforms of AI

1:07:57 data mining and all those things. So, um, again, talking, talking too much here. I should just go away. So I'm going to say, yeah, become a mycelium, right? Help. It's actually a battle constantly under the ground, but whatever. Okay. So thank you. Love you. Aloha. I'm going to drop this curtain. Shoot. See you next week. Aloha. Bye now.