Whitefly Soap Spray, Lemongrass in Pots, Bone Char Calcium
Drake opens with news from the Hilo membership meeting on December 9, the first in-person gathering there since 2018, with 60 to 80 people going over Master Cho's legacy and the new second-Tuesday monthly meetings.
Two hands-on questions: tiny white flying insects (whiteflies or thrips) get a Dawn soap spray, made as sudsy as possible and applied midday while it's hot to coat the leaves. The same soap, plus lemongrass oil, killed fleas on Drake's dogs. Lemongrass itself grows well in pots, makes a good border or indoor plant, needs little water in Hawaiʻi, and reaches about three feet at seeding.
After screen-share trouble, Drake switches to never-before-shown footage from the Pure KNF archives: Pastor Lee's last workshop before he passed, on what he called SARM farming, healing the soil first. Topics include IMO collection, manure as the core of the farm, a feed-mixer cart system that automates chicken operations, brooding chicks over a compost pile for heat, and charring bones for water-soluble calcium, testing doneness by sound, a glass-tingling ring versus a dull thud.
Drake announces in-person training at the farm January 26 to February 4, 2026, and floats interviewing Josiah Hunt about biochar's effect on worm gut health for a future membership meeting.
Questions answered
- 5:19 What happened at the Hilo membership meeting? — First in-person Hilo meeting since 2018, 60 to 80 people, went over Master Cho's legacy and solutions.
- 15:28 Tiny white flying insects, whiteflies or thrips, what do I spray? — Dawn soap is all you need; make it very sudsy and spray midday when it's hot to coat the leaves.
- 16:59 How do you get rid of fleas on dogs? — Sudsed the dogs up with Joy or Dawn soap, then added lemongrass oil to kill the fleas.
- 18:25 What is office hours for? — It's support time for anyone to ask questions, separate from the membership meeting.
- 19:08 How do you grow lemongrass? — Grows really well in pots, makes a great border or indoor plant, about three feet tall when it seeds.
- 20:38 What are lemongrass's water requirements? — Low water needs; it thrives in Hawaiʻi's rain without any watering from Drake.
- 24:33 What footage is Drake introducing? — Never-before-seen Pure KNF archive footage of Pastor Lee's last workshop before he passed.
- 25:20 What is SARM farming? — Healing the soil first, mixing animals and plants; the name faded out but Korean natural farming remains.
- 26:52 Why is manure central to KNF? — Manure is the core of the farm; Pastor Lee's operation rotated around making animal feed from it.
- 38:53 How did Pastor Lee automate his farm? — A mixer loads feed onto a cart you wheel straight to the animals, letting him run the farm alone.
- 39:38 How did he brood baby chicks? — A compost pile under the brooder box kept the chicks at the right temperature, exactly as Master Cho taught.
- 47:51 How do you know bones are properly charred? — Listen for the sound: properly charred bones tingle like glass, unfinished ones thud.
- 51:01 Any in-person training coming up? — In-person training at the farm runs January 26 to February 4, 2026.
- 56:37 What does biochar do for worms? — Biochar purifies and buffers, improving the worm bin's gut health.
KNF Office Hours is a free live Q&A every Sunday at 9 AM HST. Bring your question to pureknf.org/learn/questions or join live.
In this episode
- 0:00 Intro & I Ching: Influence
- 5:19 Hilo Membership Meeting Recap
- 15:28 Whiteflies & Thrips: Dawn Soap Spray
- 16:59 Flea Treatment With Soap & Lemongrass Oil
- 18:25 Office Hours Q&A Time
- 19:08 Growing Lemongrass in Pots
- 24:33 Pastor Lee's Last SARM Farming Workshop
- 25:20 SARM Farming: Heal the Soil First
- 26:52 Manure as the Core of the Farm
- 38:53 Farm Automation: Feed Mixer Carts
- 39:38 Brooding Chicks With Compost Heat
- 47:51 Charring Bones for Calcium
- 51:01 In-Person Training Jan 26-Feb 4 2026
- 56:37 Biochar and Josiah Hunt
Transcript
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2:02 But before we get too far into it, let's get a little bit of higher wisdom. So today is December 14th, and we're still with December, bro. And today is influence or wooing. An influence comes. Good fortune to those whose hearts are correct. The hexagram has said, indicates the coming of an influence. This may take the form of a teaching from the sage, an interaction with another, or a disturbing
2:54 or pleasing event. In any case, there is good fortune if you meet the influence with proper thoughts and actions. It is a good time to remember that like attracts like. If one gives the expression to higher things, then one is surrounded by higher things. If one indulges in what is inferior, then one can expect to have the company of inferiors. Therefore, it is wise to cling steadily to humility, independence, gentleness, and openness.
3:39 With others, keep an open heart, free of desire, condemning no one. If the influence is challenging, persevere in correctness. If it is pleasing, also persevere in correctness. Maintaining your devotion to higher things assures your success in the coming time.
4:33 Oh. Oh. Excuse me. I feel like I got to blow my nose for a sec. One sec. Bah! Complications of doing a live show. Back here. Well, good morning. And yeah, so we have got some good folks here. We've been doing some good things membership-wise. We had our second Tuesday meeting on the 9th. And that was pretty epic.
5:19 We had the first in-person meeting in Hilo since 2018, I think. And a whole bunch of people showed up. It was like over probably about 80 people there. Maybe 60, 80. Somewhere in there. I don't know. So, um, and we went over kind of, um, Master Cho's legacy, his solutions a bit together. The whole idea, um, if I, I showed the banner, I think. In fact, let me pull that up right here, right now. It is PierreKNF.org. And there. So PierreKNF.org, our foundation website. And there is now, excuse me, a monthly meeting in Hilo, second Tuesday of the month.
6:13 Um, so this is the meeting that we had and did. I'm blowing my nose one more time. Oh, yeah, feeling better, I think. Whew, my. Yeah, you know. Um, so we had our membership meeting. Um, and, um, basically, yeah, it was, it was a super good putt look. Um, tons of folks showed up.
6:58 Um, you know, influence, you know, uh, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what,
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9:33 what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what
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12:03 the, hey, thank you, thank you, super chats, Manon Microbes, KNF Travel Fund, thank you, thank you, yes, yes, let's get out, let's travel, let's make the Europe, KNF Europe happen, so the, the, the, yeah, this, this plan here I think is recyclable, and to make natural farming meetings able to happen more places more often, the food was really good, it was worth just getting together just to eat food with good people, and when you do natural farming,
12:40 it seems the quality of folks that arrive and show up are a higher caliber of folks that are already, like, cooking good food and, like, interested in regenerative agriculture and these types of things, so your odds of your conversation are better and all those types of things, but, oh, you know what, I'm on this, but it's this, let's see, is that one not the same, interesting, all right, well, influence coming to you, well, so looking forward, looking forward to seeing you this afternoon,
13:30 and if you are remembered, man, what was I, I was going to talk about this meeting here, but then this other screen is not that screen, is that not the same here, screen, okay, anyway, my, uh, thing is acting a little weird, it might be because I shut the thing off, I do not see which screen it's looking at, okay, I wonder if it's going to work for the video, okay, well, we were almost done with chicken anyway, and I think, oh, shoot, am I going to be able to play that, though, what is this, what screen is this one going on,
14:23 oh, my gosh, okay, anyway, technical difficulties on this side of, it is looking at some screen that I'm not sure which screen it is, okay, none of those screens are what I'm seeing, oh, my gosh, oh, this is going, going bad, okay, um, let's see, I got to figure this out right now, like this, does that make a difference, no, oh, my gosh, okay, technical difficulties, oh, how can I show the video,
15:12 if it's not showing here, oh, my gosh, okay, maybe this was the influence it was talking about, you guys sitting here watching me debug my computer, of why the heck, is this screen not showing on that screen, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I can't get my setup to work, it's hard to do, to go over anything, but I did, you know, we were finishing up the,
15:58 so 12, I think we finished through that, and we got through all the animals though, so, I have tiny white flying insects, like white dust, but they fly white flies or thrips, spray with dawn soap is all I have, spray with dawn soap is all you probably need, um, just make it as sudsy as possible, like adjust your spray tip, so it's as, as, um, you know, as, as adding air into it as you can, and make it as sudsy, so, and coat the entire leaves, and spray it, um, midday, when it's hot, and, um, hopefully, that's all you need for that type of pest, it's common, um, using JMS, like,
16:42 the microbial soap, type of stuff, but dawn soap is the same, we just used it to kill, um, fleas on my dogs this morning, so we took, I took joy soap, it was joy, but dawn, I think joy and dawn are pretty much the same, and, um, took some lemongrass oil, and, um, got the dogs kind of moist, then suds them up really well with the soap, got it, got it really nice and sudsy, and then add the lemongrass oil in, and used it to, um, kill the fleas on the dogs, so, anytime you have, like an insect like that, if you can get the soap and cover them, and especially if you can add in things like,
17:19 the lemongrass oil or something to, like, penetrate in and kill the, um, the pest, even, even better, that'll take care of all those things, but you want to spray midday when it's hot for, for the case of the white flies in, or in, um, thrips, why, is that, like, as if there's another screen open, but there's not, where the heck, is this looking, sorry, anyway, I'm trying to fix this here, or at least figure it out, and it's like, I don't know why it's showing this other,
18:05 tab, should be sharing this, and, no, I, um, anyway, I got a lot, if you guys, if you guys got any questions, ask them now, otherwise, um, might be, this might be the office half hour, I don't know, I gotta, I gotta either figure this out on the backside, and, or, answer some questions, so, happy to answer questions, the main reason I'm here, more than just to like, share videos, and share knowledge, it's more like, answering questions during office hours, is prime time,
18:51 so, instead of asking questions at membership meeting, which you can, office hours is like a support time, for anybody to ask questions, um, lemongrass grows really well in pots, um, really, really well, it's a great border plant, it's a great indoor plant, I don't know, you know, more people could have it, you know, indoors, um, when it goes to seeding, it's a bit tall, but usually it's about like, three feet tall, something like that, it's really nice, um, any, any other questions, otherwise,
19:37 I got a long day, natural farming stuffs, um, happy to help out, answer questions, that's what I'm here to do, I would show you the chat, I would show you all these things, all these tools we have, um, yeah, lemongrass, great stuff, okay, well, sorry if your office hours wasn't as, entertaining as he wanted it to be, but, I can't see what I'm doing, what is this, this is, supposed to be capturing this screen, yes, okay, but it's, this window that it's showing there,
20:24 is not the same window that I see here, I am looking at, like, yeah, I want it to screen capture, anyway, okay, if it is not going to screen capture, and OBS is not going to play well with me, if you got any questions, drop them quick, go, go, what are the water requirements, are lemongrass fairly low, although it does grow in the tropics, so, you know, it's like, I think of it like Thailand, mostly, here in Hawaii does really well, just naturally, I don't, I don't water it, but it does rain a whole lot, I know, if you can't see, hear, taste, then what is the point, if you're instant, getting,
21:05 broken to, where, where, what screen is it looking at, it's looking at a screen, it's seeing like, the monthly membership, it, but I don't, I don't think it's seeing the same thing, I think it's frozen, for some reason, somehow, when I, hit the, screen, like, I accidentally pushed the mouse up, it screen saved it, okay, it's using chat GPT, for the first time, designed to, designing a shed, so crazy, all this stuff I never knew, yeah, chat, and, and if you get into cloud code, oh my gosh, cloud code, it is wild,
21:50 if you, if you know how to use the command line interface, to your computer, cloud code, is the next unlock, bro, it's just like, boom, what did I miss, Thomas, you missed it, I'm having technical difficulties, for some reason, I can't share my screen, I don't know why, um, it should be, it's not even showing me, dragging things, so it's not live, for some reason, this is not, um, the source selected, hide that, show that, um, restart capture, oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, I think I, I think I solved the problem,
22:36 yep, yes, okay, problem solved, you can see, over here, I had to restart the capture, that's what it was, oh my gosh, thanks, thanks for hanging in there, I don't know, the last five minutes, of just me, sitting here, trying to figure this thing out, while you're here, I did answer some questions, yay, good office hours, um, but, like I was saying, um, well, I was saying a lot, I guess, um, but,
23:21 like, yeah, I guess we gotta switch a topic up, because we went to, we got poopology, I was thinking, of sharing something with you folks, here, um, let's see here, that, in, there is, um, workshops, that I went to, um, even, even the Filipino thing, going through, some of the, um, lectures, we dropped there, I don't know, this, this is kind of, um, never before seen,
24:08 living like kings, in the Philippines, um, this, or, there's also this series, here, that is just, like, pretty darn epic, um, um, I was thinking of diving into this, since we're pretty much done with animals, or, we could go into pigs, we could continue, we could go with, you know, go further into animals, doing the chickens, I thought was the most relevant, um, but we could go to this, seminar here, which I don't think has ever been seen before, live on the,
24:54 it's never been on the YouTube before, this would be from, from the Pure KNF archives, and shared here, um, and this, this was one of the more, illuminating, um, natural farming series I had, it wasn't with Master Cho, this was with, um, Pastor Lee, before he passed away, so this was his last, kind of his, keystone, thing, demonstrating this with us, and we did a bunch of stuff, like this, for instance, we did IMO collection, um, yeah, here's the,
25:39 here's the notes, you know, um, we are the leaders, in KNF, to restore, a destroyed world, he's quite sick, but with the help of Ray, you know, he's trying to improve, and share, Korean natural farming, precision is key, solutions have to be perfect, this workshop is based on, making it correct, only when the best, can move on, only when best, can move on to other things, okay, so, yeah, um, so, SARM, SARM farming, is healing the soil first, makes total sense,
26:28 I mean, what are you going to heal the soil, second, last, I don't know, like, you're going to farm, and not heal the soil, you're going to farm, and abuse the soil, I don't know, making the soil first, makes total sense, so, that's what this workshop's about, um, it's about mixing animals, and plants, um, yeah, KNF, you know, manure is key, it's the core of the farm, the farm, you know, in fact, that is one of the things, like, Master Lee's farm, really rotated around this manure, that he would get, he would make the animal food, so, the poopology, whole idea, is here, you know,
27:10 hidden behind all this, I guess, but, um, SARM farming, research sharing, join us, join in with them, um, what is SARM farming, I don't know, SARM farming came and left already, it's already gone, Korean natural farming remains, I don't know why they tried to make it, like, rebrand it, but they did, um, this idea of understanding what, um, what Master Lee was doing, this is what he was doing, under Master Cho, so, I think, I think going through this, this SARM one, all these things here, you know, like, what is SARM, the egg, um,
27:56 yeah, so, we could go, and get into this, and, what is this, what is this, this just looks like, Korea B-roll, B-roll, B-roll, B-roll, B-roll, B-roll, yeah,
28:46 I think this, this, this, is, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, yeah, so some random Korean B-roll from this trip, I don't know, check it out.
29:38 Oh, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah, so not exactly sure,
30:28 but, no natural farming has happened yet, but, let's see, there's some time lapse photos, let's see what we got here. Kuike chilling here on the stairs. Oh, this trip we went with Kuike, that was pretty fun. They could kick in this old ancient Korean. Oh, there's shirtless me. Uh oh, I'm going to sleep. Oh, he time lapse the whole thing. You can see if, I wonder if you see like me go take a piss in the middle of the night. Who does that? Who does that? Who time lapses a freaking, I guess a good security. You just, he set up a time lapse overnight. We, so this is where we're staying in Muzu. Um,
31:08 and then looks like somebody, I wonder if you can see anybody come out during the night. No, don't blink. Uh, why are we watching this? We should watch some natural farming stuff. Oh, Oh, so this is a time lapse of us doing Tai Chi. So this is another reason, you know, of going to pure, you know, uh, Korean natural farming thing is you get this, you know, Tai Chi cultural immersion type of thing. It's not just natural farming, right? We're, we're learning about Korea. We're learning about, you know, ourselves, and we're learning about, you know, ourselves, and we're learning about, you know,
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36:09 our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, so you can see I'm drying seed here. I think it's sesame seed here. It's the sesame, but he fleshed, threshed, drying the seed. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, I think. I would use something similar for like,
36:54 uh, powder? Lois? Lois? Or, uh, that tiny? No, I was reading somewhere and, uh, they're either gathering like, anthills, or like, the one side. I'm gonna look at the, and they were, uh, sinking, uh, slowly. So, yeah, so I guess, I guess that's my choice, right? I'll go through this, but, just kind of preview right now. So this footage isn't mine. This is Zach's footage, but, this is the same event, right? There is, I house an inside water washing. Okay. There is me, over here on this side,
37:40 with my iPad. iPad on a tripod. And so we'd be watching this footage here. This is Zach's footage, just to make a preview of what we'd see. But, this here, you know, turning IMOs. Right? This is the, in an indoor IMO collection. These are the IMO collections behind Kuike here. This, this workshop was one of the, like, most high-level workshops I think we went to. them just stealing apples from the neighbors. No fucks given. Yeah. Couldn't cook. So this is the,
38:26 you know, his whole thing automation, man. His farm automation. Oh, it's kind of weird because it's sideways, but this is the, the whole key to everything. You know, it's, it's going onto a cart. Out of a mixer. It's loading into a cart. You know, so you never have to like, you just, you move the cart from here. You know, you mix the stuff into the mixer. It mixes for you. You bring it over your animals. I mean,
39:11 that's how he's able to run this farm by himself, man. These types of systems, right? These mixers. So I feel like I'm giving kind of an overview today. We'll, we'll maybe start into this when we're ready, go through it more sequentially, but this was the coolest man. So this is, Mr. Lee. He's, he's one of the main disciples past pastor Lee, one of the main disciples of master Cho. He's passed away now, but this was his, like I said, one of his keynote things. And, you know, look how clean his operation is. Look what he's doing, raising the baby chicks, the exact way master Cho said, you know,
39:51 no, no slack, no slop. No, like, I can't do it. It's like, no, he's running it exactly the way master Cho said with the, the, the chick boxes coming out, the brooder box in the back with the insulation. This, we put compost pile under here to heat it. So it stayed the right temperature. The chicks are in the con, you know, with the compost pile warm back here, they're, they're running out here. He's extent, he's going to extend this at the right times. He has everything nicely built, stored. I mean, this operation, this, that's why I going here and spending, you know,
40:30 a week with him training this, this operation that we did about pastor Lee's one best, best that, you know, I've, I've learned a lot with master Cho, but even learning from his disciple here of like learning that sweetness of what he was putting together, you know, never, never, never before been on YouTube before these things. So, I mean, his, his operation has been on YouTube, right? But this, but him teaching has never really been there. I mean, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his,
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47:51 You know, after you've charred them, they've completely changed. And this was like a good batch. This was the, um, the chimney method. And the other one was the pile method that we're picking up over there. But you see, you know, it's, it's this kind of experience where it's like burn the bones. You're like, well, okay. But it's this, when you understand why and what, and like how it's transforming, like transforming, like, you know, this, that's why this, this lesson lecture series was so valuable. Cause we did it here. We are.
48:21 You know, like how often did you spend time like tinkering around with the bones that you made? We had enough time to do that. Make it enough to last you forever. You don't need that much. That's the thing. One of this is a lifetime supply, right? I mean, you're going to have to up your farm, start selling it, get, get out of debt, you know, start making a living. Big time supply of bones right there. I mean, you don't have to. You don't have to. You don't have to. You don't have to. You don't have to. You don't have to. You don't have to. You don't have to. You don't have to.
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51:26 Thought I'd throw that in there, but, um, that's why training like this is necessary. So if we go through the series, I mean, you'll see, but what you feel, what you taste, what you know, you know, each day they're telling us evaluate the pile, look, taste, smell, tune, tune your body, turn it. You know, the more you do it, the better you get, right? You're just looking at one time. You're like, what? You look at it two, three times. Now you start to get contrast and see details. And that's what made this particular workshop. So valuable is we're doing IMO.
51:54 We're making everything, you know, with a master. You got it. You know, Mr. Lee, man, he's so amazing. Very hot. Very hot. Very hot. Very hot. Probably hot. Probably hot. Probably ready to turn. You want it hotter. Okay. There's some expert tips right there. Ooh. So, the heat is going to be a little bit. I'm going to be a little bit. I'm going to be a little bit. I'm going to be a little bit. I'm going to be a little bit. I'm going to be a little bit. I'm going to be a little bit. I'm going to be a little bit. I'm going to be a little bit. I'm going to be a little bit.
52:21 I'm going to be a little bit. I'm going to be a little bit. I'm going to be a little bit. I'm going to be a little bit. Ooh. So, the feeling is very important. The feeling that you get is very important. The feeling of the heat. I don't know. Can you guys hear that? Even what they're saying? Maybe I have to amplify your volume, but. You know. Yeah. Feeling this going through, you know. The smell. The smell. The smell. The smell. The smell. The smell. The smell. The smell. The smell. The smell. The smell. The smell. The smell. The smell. The smell. The smell. The smell. The smell. The smell.
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54:29 Probably. He's a chill dude. Another thing would be. You know. We could hang out. With Kim Chang. Do one of her seminars. Poop all it. We could hang out. Josiah Hunt. I don't know. I'm just giving a preview here. Seeing where. You know. What influence. And wooing. Where are we headed. What are we doing. I mean. What's going to be best for you guys. To like understand. To do. I mean. I guess. This footage. You can't watch. Any other way. Unless I share it. Like right now. You're watching it. This is the only way. You're ever going to watch this. Unless you come over here. And sit down.
55:03 Where I am. Right here. At this spot. Or tuned. Or. Hack into my NAS. Somehow. And pull this data. All right. The other people in the world. Do have this data too. It's been backed up. But. Maybe not this though. The SARM data. Might be the only one. Only one in the world. With this SARM data. Look at that texture. Oh. You're so good. I mean. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Can you smell it? Check the smell. Because the smell will be different again tomorrow.
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56:08 A Josiah Hunt interview would be awesome. His ideas develop into better stuff while we develop ideas. I bet he has some cool stuff about the Wyrm Ben's improvement from Char. You know, actually, having Josiah Hunt be a membership meeting interview person would probably be a good one. I don't know if I could do that on office hours, but at least maybe we could do it as a membership meeting. That'd be sweet. Um, I, I, Josiah is a good, I like Josiah. He, I think he likes me. At least he knows who I am, right? The good guy. Doing good things. Um, Uh, Biochar improves the Wyrm's gut.
56:51 Biochar just is a purifier. It's a cleanser. It's just, Char is the ultimate buffer. So it's a balancer. I mean, the whole world's about balance. Carbon is balance. You know, It's, Um, The structure. Hey, did you, did you see, Um, Yeah, Oh, Well, Okay. Yeah, Having a greenhouse to make IMOs would be sweet. Okay. Um, So nice to have when you have animals. Yeah. So anyway, We'll finish, We'll watch this a little bit more. I don't know if they, I think, I mean, I think this, This series would be really beneficial to get into. I don't know how many people are going to tune in, but,
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