LAB, Bloom Formula Timing, and Bamboo-Egg Chick Feed
Drake opens by honoring Master Cho, Dr. Park, and Chun, then gives an orchard update: mulch spread, cattle grazed through to knock down grass, tangelos fruiting heavy for the first time, and a tangerine tree that still needs microbial sprays to come back to life.
He made Cal-Phos from burnt bone the day before, cutting the bones small with a chop saw first to make the grinding easier. He also walks through bloom formula timing: spray it two weeks before and two weeks after a plant's change-over into flowering, then go back to oscillating leaf and fruit formula. Spraying flowers directly is fine, he says, as long as the vinegar and lactobacillus ratio is right.
Member interviews follow. Royal Flush Farms describes fixing three years of pest and disease trouble in an indoor cannabis grow by switching to natural farming inputs. Tomer tells how he made lactic acid bacteria from rice wash and milk and sprayed it diluted around 1:2000 into his worm bin, killing the smell for good. Yarl compares sprayers, favoring a battery-powered backpack sprayer over hand-pump models, with a gas-powered Japanese mist sprayer as the best option for bigger jobs.
Drake shows how he makes fermented plant juice from dandelions cut at the base. He then reviews archival footage of Master Cho feeding baby chicks a paste of hard-boiled egg ground through a sieve mixed with finely chopped bamboo, a treat used to train chicks onto eating leaves and to lengthen their intestines for better digestion.
Questions answered
- 23:54 How do you make Cal-Phos (water-soluble calcium) from bone? — Burn the bones, then cut them small with a chop saw first, which makes the rest of the process much easier.
- 25:26 When should you spray bloom formula versus leaf or fruit formula? — Spray bloom formula two weeks before and two weeks after a plant's change-over into flowering, then go back to oscillating leaf and fruit formula.
- 28:04 Is it a problem to spray flowers and buds directly and get them wet? — With the right amount of vinegar and lactobacillus it's fine, plants take up the spray even outdoors in the rain.
- 28:43 What do Pure KNF Foundation members get access to? — Monthly member meetings where growers like Royal Flush Farms share results, including a three-year indoor cannabis recovery using natural farming inputs.
- 31:29 How do you make lactic acid bacteria (LAB) at home? — Mix rice wash with milk, let it separate, then spray the resulting serum diluted around 1:2000, which killed a worm bin's smell for years.
- 32:56 What's the best sprayer for applying KNF inputs? — A battery-powered backpack sprayer beats hand-pump models, and a gas-powered Japanese mist sprayer works best for covering more ground.
- 38:10 Can you make fermented plant juice (FPJ) from dandelions? — Yes, cut them at the base, fill a five-gallon bucket in minutes, then mix with sugar for strong FPJ.
- 42:20 Why feed chickens a mix of chopped bamboo and egg? — The fiber and sweetness train chickens to eat leaves and grass, fed as a treat after they fill up on soaked brown rice.
- 45:08 How fine should the egg be prepared for baby chicks? — Hard-boil the eggs, then grind them through a sieve or fine grater so baby chicks can eat it easily.
KNF Office Hours is a free live Q&A every Sunday at 9 AM HST. Bring your question to pureknf.org/learn/questions or join live.
In this episode
- 0:00 Intro and I Ching reading
- 6:09 Honoring Master Cho, Dr. Park, and Chun
- 14:18 Orchard update and community check-in
- 17:12 Why farming is such a hard road
- 22:25 Fire-buffer lawns with KNF sprays
- 23:54 Making Cal-Phos from burnt bone
- 24:41 Grow food before the famine hits
- 25:26 Bloom formula timing for flowering plants
- 28:43 Royal Flush Farms' cannabis recovery story
- 31:29 Tomer's LAB from rice wash and milk
- 32:56 Yarl on backpack and gas sprayers
- 38:10 Making FPJ from dandelions
- 40:57 Master Cho's archival animal-farming video
- 42:20 Bamboo fiber and egg paste for baby chicks
- 48:19 Stream winds down into chat
Transcript
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6:09 I'm probably from all the stress. I'm not gonna lie. And, you know, then he ended up in the hospital almost dead. And one of his nurses was Chun. And she then later became his wife as he went through medical school and she thought he was cute and he thought she was cute. They were like, hey, you wanna, you wanna bring natural farming to Hawaii with me and change, change the destiny of so many folks. By making Master Cho known to the Western world. And she was like, yeah. But she didn't know it at the time. And that's just the result of what happened. Thank you, Dr. Park. Thank you, Chun.
6:52 Thank you, Master Cho. Thank you for being here and being part of this. Because without us, would, uh, it would be a lot less, uh, you know, things come, things go, and, uh, certain things stay around. So, yeah. Korean adoptees 77. Yeah. Dr. Park, man. Listening to Dr. Park's story, you know, that's actually one of the things I should probably just sit down and do. Because I was, um, I was wanting to get the story of Dr. Park out, you know, and, uh, been working a while on it. But, you know, things happen, things go. I'm trying to hold a decent amount together here.
7:39 There is, um, in 2021, I sat down with Dr. Park and did an interview with him. And, uh, you know, pretty, pretty darn amazing. And, uh, you don't know Dr. Park, you know, that's one of the things, like I talked about Master Cho, but, uh, Dr. Park, man, he, he's a, an unsung hero in this. And, uh, he is quite, quite fabulous. I'll check out Dr. Park for a minute. Ready? Oh, yeah. Ready? Okay. So, yeah. So, just kind of mellow, I, I, I... Christian organization,
8:24 they get the credit for the tax workers. So, it works both ways. Christian organization. And then, we, we feed that one, and then send to the, you know, North Korea, or, you know, and, and, for us, we just have a question. We have bags, and then we carry that. So, I'm 30 in the morning. Until 11 at night. So, that was a, very extensive course. What the, interesting is, is, they give a, two meal a day. They just, you know, and sleeps, and there.
9:09 It's not coming back. So, that was cool. Everybody has a, uh, a, wall, floor. Then, we cover this, a blanket, and things like that. Yeah, so that's him talking about his first training with Master Cho, you know, you know, 6am in the morning, till 11 at night, just cruising, learning, sleeping on the floor, doing it Korean style, you know, him, man, what a, what a rock star this guy. He, uh, you know, survived, survived a war as a child. His father was murdered in the war. Uh, you know, all the atrocities that they saw, you know, and sit and talking story with him and Chun.
9:55 They'd tell me about, you know, how they'd have, you know, uh, there's such a famine during the war that everything was just blown, blown to bits and the army would come and just wreck, requisite their cows and take that and slaughter it and take their meat and all their food, you know, and they basically had to live off radishes and turnips and stuff. And just, you know, just wild, wild. uh, Park, definitely one of those, uh, one of those folks that, um, uh, pushed up like a blade of grass, uh, able to overcome the difficulties in time and do his thing, you know, and, uh, rise up and change,
10:39 change the world. big, big up to, to Dr. Park. And Master Cho lived through the same thing, you know, hearing, the chicken series is actually, uh, sitting down hearing his story of the, during the war and how he was, uh, you know, beaten to death because they thought he was a communist. And, um, it broke out all his teeth and beat him so bad that they thought he was dead. And they put him in a body bag. And, um, a day later, so he, um, they, they were like, you know, turns out he wasn't dead. And the South Koreans had beat him so bad, um,
11:15 the communists because he just wanted to care about the earth and, um, the animals and all that. And he was running a, um, you know, uh, community driven, uh, agriculture. And so, you know, these, you know, the difficulty at the beginning, I tell you, you know, uh, that's inspiration for me, you know, my life going through different things for sure. Um, being able to understand these things, but, so when I'm here and here I am, uh, trying to do this, you know, my life, my life hasn't been that bad. Um, you know, uh, basically first world problems, not, uh, world war problems, uh,
11:58 but just trying to bring life, humility, these things, these messages that, uh, came pretty close to extinction, pretty close to death, and feeling that, uh, you know, chun lady grass pushing up that difficulty in the beginning, that, uh, bringing this to the world, um, I'm just, uh, you know, one, one person out there trying to do it, trying to live it, you know, knowing where it comes from and just not being like, oh yeah, you know, it's like some, I mean, go with person just trying to make money. These messages are, you know,
12:32 pretty heavy and how they came to us and what they're doing and how they, how they came to us. Definitely a lot of chun. So thinking of Dr. thinking of chun park and, um, their, So hope you appreciate this, you know, knowing where it comes from, you know, um, anyway, um, so let's see here. Good folks in the house. It's good to, good to have people here, you know, starting off the day with, uh, life is beautiful. It, uh, definitely is beautiful. Sometimes it's a struggle, but I guess that's all in my own mind. And it's just, it's a blade of grass pushing up and, uh, you got, Mark.
13:16 Hopefully he was up in DC doing some activism. Hopefully it all worked out. Secession, some sort of just doing our own thing. The system, who knows where it's going, what it's doing. Just tuning it out. I guess maybe it's probably not the best idea, but I don't know. I don't know. And a goof. Good to see you, brethren. Good to see you. Good to see you, Cecily. Awesome. Coming in from all over the world. New York, Australia, AgroCentrop. We got Belgium in the house. What's up? So, um, Big West, Canadian. Oh, Marcus Green thumb. I didn't, you know, it's kind of interesting.
14:00 Cause I didn't know Marcus Green thumb was a 77 year old dude. Dude. I'm assuming dude. I don't know. Marcus seems like a dude's name, but a Korean. Dopty. Um, um, yeah. Like a dude. I'm okay, You know, I think we all have our pros and our cons. I'm not claiming to be anything special here, but, uh, I'm just, trying to go to understand these things, put them into, put them into practice. Um, I, you know, I could probably be better at my practice, but I've definitely been good at my advocacy. And, I always think of loose and Ray when I say that, and have a cashy,
14:39 like if I'm trying to cash in as if somehow, you know, I appreciate any donation, anything that this brings to me, but largely, um, wouldn't be here without the pure can of foundation. And, um, you know, your support tuning in, it, helps, all that, you know, like subscribe, share all those things you're supposed to do on YouTube. Um, but you know, um, yeah. advocacy, you know, it's something nice. I see, um, going through phases, you know, all of us, it's like a thing of grass pushing up. It's, and then you get up and then you're like, Oh yeah, sunlight and grass grows pretty fast.
15:18 Once it gets out of the ground and gets going, and it makes a great meal for a cow, which the cows. So great. Um, my orchard rehabilitation has, um, I put out a bunch of mulch. Um, I grazed the cattle through the area, knocked all the grass down. They ate one of the trees, but it came back roaring. um, you know, so, um, all those things, you know, it's going, it's going, uh, orchard rehabilitation. I probably could be doing more for it. Uh, I probably should be also, you know, so it's, it's good. I should probably share some photos and stuff.
15:58 I'll snap photos maybe for next week and get you updated on the that. Um, they're, they're, the good news is all of the trees are putting out a bunch of fruit. So the tangelos that hadn't fruited before, are significantly, they're putting out significant amounts of fruit. Uh, the, the tangerine looks probably the worst. It's kind of, so it needs, it needs some love, some, uh, microbial love and some sprays to just boost it and bring it back to life. I got to get some motivation to do it. It's, it's been, it's, you know, my personal life has its ups and downs and right now it is on a, um,
16:41 it's just, you know, it's been better. It's been better than that way. So I've been having my own, you know, here I am trying to do this, trying to support this community. And then I got my own stuff going on. Right. Uh, and you know, I was telling, I was telling my mom the other day, it's like, uh, been down so long. It looks like up to me, uh, you know, or, uh, this idea that life is sorrow. So if you think life is sorrow, then you're at the baseline and then anything that good that's happened is up from there. And, just, I've been trying to figure out a philosophy to find, find goodness in,
17:19 uh, um, God's miracles presented that really make no sense from my opinion, from my perspective. Uh, I can't see it all. And I don't know. So trying to, trying to keep my head up, trying to keep, uh, a lot, lot more loaded on my shoulders and trying to, um, keep everything together. It is, it is a wild burden being a farmer. I was telling my dad the other day, I was like, man, I could be the world's best farm consultant. And, I will save you thousands, if not millions with this one piece of advice. Stop farming. Oh, I'll save you years of pain and agony and thousands and thousands of dollars.
18:06 Just stop farming. Oh, it's so funny. It's so funny. It's so funny. Uh, so funny. Cause it's, it is, it, it, it's the craziest thing. Because it all starts with farming, like we can't, you know, we're not eating, we're not providing food. We're not doing it. We're all dead. Right. But, but here we are like, you know, what's, what's, what's, what's the number one farm consultant thing? Just stop doing it. You know, like, you're not going to, you know, like, you got to get out, get out before, it collapses or whatever, you know, but it's funny because if without farming, Right. But,
18:50 but by farming, you're, Like you're like the, the, the world is treats you like absolute shit and doesn't appreciate anything you do and doesn't pay. And the hard work that you put into it, you know, we can live without computer software. We can live without accounting. We can live without banking. We can live without, you know, almost everything, Like, and, I mean, there's, there's a lot of professions out there that you need, but a lot of them, without a water department, you know, it's like we can, we can figure out how to get water to, like with all this bureaucracy and all this stuff.
19:21 I mean, I'm saying what water is pretty important, but the bureaucracy and the rules and the government and all this, that we can live without all that, but you can't live without people providing food, either yourself or someone else. And, but it's like, it, it's like, Oh, it's it. I, I hope you guys can all laugh with that. Cause it's, it's funny. And everyone that's here must be a glutton for punishment to be like, yeah, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna farm. And for whatever reason, maybe you are and you do. Um, but it is, it is funny. So anyway, uh, you know, uh, here,
19:59 here I am talking about farming, talking about doing it right. And talking about, you know, being one of those people that's like so stubborn. That's like sitting down to be like, you know what? You know what? I'm gonna farm anyway, even if it hurts, I know it's the right thing to do. And, taking care of the land, regenerating it, uh, doing all those things. Like it is, it is exactly what we need to be doing. And, um, yeah. Uh, 15 minutes a day spent on Dr. Park would give us a 90 hour summary of your life with him. Keeping everything going. Yeah. Well, I hope to put out a Dr. Park documentary.
20:36 I should just cut it together and do it, put it out. It'd be great. He's, he's, he's an unsung hero. Um, you know, he has this world's smallest ego doing his thing for the, for the good. he's, he's always been trying for the good. Um, rainbow possum farm, got a big sweet onion harvest this week, canned up some onion bourbon jam. That sounds great. So it's not all sorrow and, uh, farming, you know, that those are the joys of it, right? Those things you get, it's just, I just feel like it, you know, I wish it was more like financially rewarding, you know, but,
21:11 but having your own food is priceless, right? You can't beat it. Having good food, good quality food, healthy food, like, like literally, a friend do it for you, but you can't really get it any other way. So I'm not discounting. don't get me wrong. When I talk about the farming and stuff, I just, it's just like, you know, anyway, you want to like buy a piece of land or you want to get into like, you know, getting at like a head in life, whatever that means, you know, it's just, uh, Like it's not, it's not, yeah. there are, there are countless priceless monetary rewards.
21:44 So don't get me wrong on that. And that's like a lot of reasons why I'm doing it. I'm sort of counterculture of like, you know, doing it. And, not even that great of a YouTube creator, content creator, you know, you would think, make money doing YouTube. And here I am. I appreciate anyone's super chats. If you throw them down, cause I don't make money on ads really at all. So, you know, anyway, I'm not, I'm not trying to, I look at other people just talking about like political drivel and they're getting thousands of dollars. I guess it's not a very good thing to compare yourself to others.
22:16 Because, you know, I just, I wonder about the world. Interesting. Wildfires haze in the sky. My lawns are finally coming to fruition. Yeah. It's, luckily in Hawaii, we don't have that many wildfires, pretty tropical over here. And, windy. Um, my street. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Bringing back the yards around you, creating a fire buffer so they won't burn. With shimino acid, that fuel, we'll throw it on. Um, and what, Big Wes is up to with his yard lawn care is amazing, bro. You should make specific videos for lawn care. That's a huge job. Tons of people do that. And,
23:00 where you get a bigger audience than talking about, you know, what I, what I do. You gotta put it into a practical thing. Um, and look, there's interest, big goose, or goose interested. Um, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not trying to rag on anything. I'm just saying difficulty at the beginning, you know, it is difficult. Maybe difficult. 90% of the way through, but once he's sprout out, it's like 90, 90 rule. After you've done 90% of the work, there's 90% more to do. Um, yeah. Okay. Yeah.
23:45 you know, uh, califas yesterday. Burned some bones. I ran them. I, I used my, um, chop saw. That's what it's called. I don't know. It's just a, a 10 inch blade on a, and I cut the bones nice small first. It helped a lot to put all those bones in there. I did make some califas yesterday. Um, my mom came over and she wanted me to do that. A lot of bone dust. Um, good stuff. Making that. Um, hmm. Just yeah. Masochist, farmers, um, yeah. self-sufficiency will thrive. I do think if you are on the path ahead of time, if you're growing food before the famine,
24:30 even if it wasn't profitable, you will be the richest man in, um, Osworth, where that is. But, um, getting, growing food before the famine is always a good idea. And who knows when the famine is coming, but it is inevitable. We've set the table for it. Um, yeah. Fish aminos, sell that stuff, get it out there, get people things. Cool. Um, Atlas shrug feeling the weight of the world on our shoulders. That's what farming feels like to me. Yep. Yep. Yep. And Rand Atlas shrug. John Galt. What would John Galt do? He'd chill with Dr. Park, Master Cho, you know, he'd, he'd be like, you know,
25:12 road barons do what they're doing. Peace out. move to the, the, uh, free farm. I don't know. Um, let's see here. What I'm making. Crab apple plant juice. Yeah. Yellow one day later, my friend. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. Making, using the resources around you to turn them into fertilizer. But I spray bloom fertilizer on my special plants when the flower is formed and growing. I only aim for the leaves and underside. Thank you for the bay. Um, bloom fertilizer. Yeah. Um, it's going to help even before they bloom. A week before they change over two weeks before change over even better to get it. So they,
25:57 they get good bud differentiation on any flowering plant. Um, that's when it's most effective. And then for about two weeks after that, about a four week window, two weeks before transition, two weeks after that's when it's going to be the most. And then oscillating again between leaf and fruit spray. Um, especially with those types of plants, that's when it's going to get you the best results. And, um, so the, the blooming phase really helps with flower differentiation and to bring, as it goes through puberty, going from juvenile into maturation, through that puberty is when the bloom, um,
26:34 formula is most important. Um, and that's, you know, it, it is a master or master Cho would call it change over period. Um, and that's that period where it is going from accumulative growth to, um, depositional growth. I don't know what, uh, uh, accumulating sunlight into then moving sugars into its fruits and flowers. So that change over period is very hard for a plant. And that's when the bloom formula is most beneficial is two weeks before that happens and two weeks after. And that's when it's most effective. And, then it's back to flower and fruit formula, just oscillating back and forth.
27:13 when it's chubby, uh, growing like that, it wants, leaf formula. And then when it's stretching, it wants fruit formula. So again, the names aren't really that great. Neither are master Cho's names. It's really hard to, really hard to name these things without having someone come to be like, here's what I'm really talking about. Um, it's hard to name things properly. Um, but that's, if you understand that concept right there, that's what it, and that's what happens. Um, yeah. So thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Cecily. You know, we are in this together, the memories, the things, thanks for the millions.
27:50 Yeah. Millions of microbes, millions of microbes, trillions of microbes. Um, and goof man says he doesn't like getting the buds wet, with the right amount of vinegar and lactobacillus in there should be fine. I, I can understand why maybe you wouldn't want to, but getting it up into the exactly where it needs to be is like, it's going to uptake it. And I've seen people, you know, grow outdoor, um, outdoor flowers here. And they're straight in the rain. And some people that over nitrogen, their things to, they'll get bud rot. They'll get all these kinds of things that they're like, man,
28:26 but you can grow it straight in the rain. You know, I mean, one of, one of the things here, uh, park and let me bring this up here and bring up a pure can of foundation. And, um, you know, let me sign in here. Cause it's, but part of, part of our, especially if you're growing those, those, you know, um, flowers, flower farming. Um, you, you really should become a member because it's worthwhile that, um, if you join the pure can of foundation, you will get access to, um, all of our member meetings. And one of, one of my favorites, uh, in the, when I go to monthly meetings here, um, is,
29:11 uh, we talked, and it was a couple, couple of days back. So let me back here, but these guys, Royal flush farms, talking to them, um, and then one back and also, also talking to Tomer, man, he's in, he's doing the flower stuff. Not that, not that this is what it's all about, but, and also, uh, you know, these three guys got, uh, extraordinary experience with the Royal flush farms. Um, you know, listening to them talk about their experience where, let's see, uh, you know, just, we were entering our third year. Uh, we were entering our third year of an indoor, uh, cannabis hydrofond, uh, grow.
29:55 And we were running the gauntlet of, of different pests and, and illnesses. The plants can pick up along the way to the point where we were almost to the point that we were thinking about just, you know, scrapping the whole thing and starting all over again and, and losing all of our genetics. Um, um, so really there was a quest to try and find a way to, uh, to get plant health. Um, and, uh, we made it our number one goal and we ended up, like Spencer said, we ended up, uh, the natural farming and, and seeing and learning about, uh, Drake's videos and Chris Trump's videos. and it,
30:31 it turned out that's exactly what our plants needed. And, and here we are six years later and we, and we, we don't do anything conventionally like we used to. It's all, it's all natural regenerative, techniques. yeah. So if you're not a member, you're missing all this good stuff and they talk all about that, That was, that was a great little place to skip ahead and let's see what, Let's go right here with Tomer's video. Let's do what Tomer has to say. Let's see where, yeah, that's me. That's me. Let's hear what he has to say. Yeah. So, I mean, we got some interview questions here.
31:07 I'm going to kind of share them here, but researching, researching and, uh, ran into some like blog of some sort. And it was some Hawaiian something. And it said to mix rice with milk and you get bacteria that's floating in the air. And I'm just like, Holy crap. And there's a recipe. So I was like, all right, let's cook it up. And I basically cooked, you know, eight, 10, 12 batches with failure. And, just like I said, I did not take no for an option. The article said it works. The Hawaiian dude said it works. So, uh, you know, once I, once I basically opened up to the idea that, that I'm,
31:48 I'm not in control of this. And I just got to allow the process to happen. Uh, the lab, the lab, the lab, the LAB, I created the LAB for my first time. And I sprayed it in my worm bin, uh, diluted way down, two thousand. I thought there's no way a couple of drops is going to take away this smell, but I have faith in this article and this is going to work. And, boom, the flies, the smell, everything went away. And the worms continue to live in my house for years. I still have worms in my house. Um, and yeah, I mean, I, I 100%, uh, basically turned into a huge, huge, huge exploration of,
32:31 of Korean natural farming. Once I got that smell to, to, to go away. Oh, yeah, there you go. And then, uh, yeah, let's listen to a little bit of Yarl. Let's see what we got. Let's go out right here for Yarl. See what we got. Is that, oh, why is that screen sharing that one? Uh, Ray, we'll go right here. Let's know what Yarl has to say. Uh, can't totally remember. It wasn't huge. They had two different farms that we were working on. And I think both of them were no bigger than three acres, maybe three and a half. And we weren't packing it full. Um,
33:06 I think at one point we might've had a couple hundred plants at most, but, um, we were trying to space them out. We're trying to give them some breathing room, trying to give them, um, give the root zone space to grow as well and grow. They did. They got big. Um, our biggest plant, which would, we, we called it a volunteer plan. This was about three years into it. After we were spraying all the K and F inputs and really, really working with nature. Cause, um, at some point we switched from just spraying the plants to spraying everything. We would spray the plants, the ground.
33:43 We would spray the yards, which the yards really changed. The yards went from being kind of like a balding man's head where there's like grass here, grass, there really nothing to mow the thick luscious grass that you have to mow every week or else get, get, get away from you. Um, and that volunteer plant, I think was 17 foot tall. I had an eight foot ladder. I lost my phone that, that, that I had the picture on him, but I was standing on a seven or an eight foot ladder. I was standing on the second, uh, highest step to the top and I was reaching all the way up and it was still taller than me.
34:17 And as I hear all the time, um, everything's already in the soil. Everything's already there. All the weed seeds are already there on all the good seeds are there. All the native seeds are already there. That's why it's kind of funny when trying to spray, um, chemicals, try to get rid of weeds. You're only going to get rid of the ones that have grown. You're not going to get rid of the ones that are waiting to grow. And the more chemicals you spray, the more you prepare that soil for the next weed that's going to come up. So, and then sprayer, we had a,
34:50 we had several different kinds of sprayers. The, the last sprayer I remember using was a backpack sprayer normally used for, um, um, spraying for pesticides. They were kind of expensive. They're like $400 backpack spray or something like that. And they were four and a half gallons, I think, but they were awesome. Battery pack, you slapped the battery pack in there. You get all your K and F inputs and you just walk around with this thing. Very mobile. You can get in everywhere and get it in and, in and around the plants. Um, and I,
35:25 I can't see how it'd be different than any other backpack sprayer. We had some of the pump backpack sprayers. We were walking around pumping it with your hand and those were great, but the backpack sprayer with the battery, that was the best. Saves a lot of time and saves on energy to sit there, have to pump constantly. And we break those handles all the time where you're sitting there, you're pumping it and you bend it. So I did not like those. Uh, the coolest sprayer that we had that I've tried to find even recently, cause I'm all like, man, I kind of want to, we want it.
35:58 If we get a big enough property. Um, it was a Japanese sprayer, I think. Um, come on. What was the name? Ariyama MS 75 E bro. I can't remember the name of it. I know that if I start looking into it, I'll be able to find it, but I just don't have it here with me. It was a gas sprayer. Um, and it was designed specifically for spraying at farms. And it had a really nice mystery at the end of it. And we could put one T five or 35 gallons into a big old barrel that we got. Cause we bought one of those barrels that you put on the back of a four wheeler, but we just put it on a little part,
36:41 strapped it down. And that was probably the best. That was awesome. It could spray up to 15, 20 feet. And just walking around, just spraying this thing. It was gas powered. And I know that some people don't like gas powered, but in my opinion, all I'm doing is I'm spraying it with K and F and I'm emitting CO2, which is what plants need to live. So my opinion was a double whammy. Yeah, So anyway, you know, just, uh, just small little preview for you. If you know, if you're asking about those types of things, it's probably well worth your time to be a member, go through,
37:13 check out the past interviews that we've done and the past things, you know, uh, pure can of foundation bringing you this. And, uh, you know, just saying pure can F dot org, check it out. Um, and, uh, So anyway, Thanks everyone for being here on the questions, comments, you know, and there, you know, showed some video that was kind of out there. low in nitrogen, corn, great corn, also mix into some coffee grounds. Um, yeah, spray can F on my mother-in-law's lawn or whole yard coming back to life. Yeah. That's it's those kinds of stories. It's those kinds of things.
37:56 It's those kinds of documents that, uh, putting that out there, people understand how much of a miracle this stuff is. Um, yeah, can F for the win. No doubt. I hope you're documenting it because it's always good to share that and be like, Hey, this works cause it's open source stuff. You know, it's just out there, share this, put it out there. You know, I'm, I'm, you know, I'm just doing my small part to raise awareness. I am, you know, beyond that, I hope, I hope you share a document, get this out there. Cause that, that, that's what honors master Cho is, uh, that kind of stuff. Um, yeah. So,
38:37 um, dandelions for can of food. Absolutely. Dandelions make a great can of food. They're making when I was up in Washington. Um, I made a bunch out of dandelions. It was so easy. I just took a knife and went right under the dandelion and just cut it right at the base and just went through a yard and in the five gallon bucket next to me. you know, if I had some knee pads or something, it'd be even easier. Cause then I'm kneeling down and just cut, cut, cut, cut, cut in, in probably five, 10 minutes. I had a full five gallon bucket and then I was able to mix the sugar in and make amazing
39:11 stuff from dandelions. It is. Yeah. Amazing. Right. Amazing. strong, potent, amazing stuff that, you know, turn all that, people, they think it's a problem. It's like, turn that into a solution. Just go tell people, Hey, you know, for 50 bucks, I'll remove all the dandelions from your yard. And now you've just paid for all your sugar and your time to be there. And you've got a whole thing of dandelions and they're happy. You're happy. And it's like, wow. You know, get paid to remove dandelions from people's yards. Wow. Amazing. You show up early in the morning, do it. Be out of there, you know,
39:49 get paid to make K and F solutions. Uh, you know, yeah. Yeah. And yeah, dandelions grow right in the city. I've seen them growing through the streets of LA. Um, yeah, that was when I, when I was in LA, that's, I made dandelion juice too. Um, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Spray it into your mouth. Yeah. Make it, make them notice. Yeah. I like to tell them it's super deadly. Watch out. And then spray it in my mouth, you know, just, just screw with them a little bit. And then spray it in your own mouth. And put on my moon. Oh, just mess with people.
40:34 Um, yeah, cool. All right. let's, let's jump over. We got, we've been going through this series. So we've been getting through, what were we doing? We were going through, we're at the animal training, right? We're going through all these chickens, how they made the pen bigger for them. The sizing, you know, we're on nine of 10, um, here, you know, going through, seeing what we're doing. It's just, it's wild. We've been going through it. And it's funny cause it's like, we're doing livestock, but actually this is some of the deepest KNF you could get into because
41:12 the highest pinnacle of KNF is integrated animal farming. I know a lot of people use some of the solutions for different things, but it's like integrated animal farming is where it shines the best. Because when you get animals starting to work for you and you're feeding them these things and you get this synergistic loop going around, it is the best. So even though it seems like we're just doing animals, it is so much more. So let's dive back in. Let's see. We're here with master Cho, Park, um, my good Japanese and, uh, Himenosan and my Chinese guy. I don't,
41:47 I don't remember his name cause the Chinese thing, but Himenosan, awesome, amazing woman. Probably the reason KNF stayed alive through master Cho's strokes and heart attacks was Himenosan here. She also is a unsung hero, someone that is just like legendary, legendary. Um, so. So they're, they're cutting up a bunch of bamboo still, if you weren't watching last week, and they're kind of getting ready to feed the bamboo and the egg to the chickens. And Master Cho's telling us a bit about this and what the reasons for the bamboo are, you know, the fiber that goes in.
42:35 He said you could use sugar cane leaves or reeds if you don't have bamboo leaves around, but he's given in the reasoning, right? It's not just like you just feed them a leaf. There's a reason why he chose bamboo and the fiber and the sweetness and all these things. So. So. So when they eat the brown rice and the egg and they will eat this one after that, that's an extra, uh, paste. So you took the food down. It's like giving them a dessert, right? So the brown rice they're always have access to, they fill themselves up. That's as they eat the, the uncooked brown rice, it goes into their,
43:17 and then as it gets moisture, it expands and it makes their intestines much longer. They're about three times the size of normal chickens, which helps them with their digestibility and their longevity and everything. And makes you have to buy less food because it's in their intestines for longer and gets more digestible index. So they eat the brown rice and they do the soup, right? And then they paste the, kind of like, the processed food that is delicious. And next time when you give leaf first, they will eat it as well. So you're trying to change your chicken. The chicken psychology,
43:56 trucking them into eating leaves because the leaves and grass are free, but then when they're in this environment, you can do this. And it is awesome. That's better than mine. I wonder where she's at. Excellent. To, to, to get, Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. He's making fun of my laugh. Making fun of my laugh. Great. We should, we should start every office hour with him mocking me. Smokes my laugh. Harmony. Harmony. Harmony. Harmony. Harmony. Harmony. Harmony. Harmony. Harmony. Harmony. Harmony. Harmony. Harmony. Harmony. Harmony. Harmony. Harmony. Harmony.
44:41 Harmony. Harmony. Harmony. Harmony. Harmony. Harmony. Harmony. So what he has here, he has a huge quail farm. So he has a bunch of quail eggs. So this is what he's going to do. So you got the bamboo prepared and then he has these hard boiled quail eggs. And he's going to feed to the chickens. You could use just chicken eggs. When I do it, I use chicken eggs. I don't have quails, but quail eggs, even, even better, I think. But you see all the fine chopped bamboo and now the eggs. So we'll watch how this process is. But these are hard boiled quail egg. And he's going to put it on paper.
45:15 And I do not recommend the paper because when they peck it, it makes noise. It scares them. Just put it straight on the ground. It's fine. So you take the eggs off. He's just mushing. He's just grinding the elbow. And he's grinding it through a sieve. And this is kind of what I do. Sometimes I use like a fine, like Parmesan grater to grate them. Gotta watch out. You don't grate your fingers into it. Although that protein probably would be good for him too. But he's just running it through the sieve to make very fine. And the whole thing is these are baby chicks.
45:47 So when you make it this fine, that's the whole point. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly.
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46:31 You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. You can use egg regularly. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey. Thanks, bird. Oh my gosh. It's like a super chat party. You know, good. Yeah. So just, you know, seeing the, you know, it's one leaf per bird type of thing. And then, you know, how many eggs. These are quail eggs. It's hard to see.
47:01 But essentially, you know, you don't want to overfeed them too much of this. It's just to get them. So they should basically, all this should be gone in about three to five minutes. Once you put it in there, you don't want to give them just tons and tons of egg or tons and tons of bamboo. These things are trying to make sort of rare for them. And so, you know, you get a hundred birds. They're going to hammer this stuff real quick. Once they figure it out. I don't want to pile up that. Huh? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks for the feed. Thanks for the feed. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks.
47:38 Thanks. Yeah. It's like perfect size. It's good. I appreciate it. Keep showing up for Tana. I'm a daddy. I'm a daddy. I'm a daddy. I'm a daddy. I'm a daddy. I'm a daddy. I'm a daddy. I'm a daddy. I'm a daddy. I'm a daddy. I'm a daddy. I'm a daddy. So, you know, he made it easy where, you know, instead of trying to peel the egg, just grind it through this thing and just grind it up, you know, keep it simple and easy. This way he's able to do it every day and not like a big hassle. He has to, you know, do all the, like, just grind it through a sieve like this.
48:12 Then you just power wash the sieve real quick. You're done. You know, um, versus sitting there peeling all those eggs and getting the eggs shell off. Just grind it through this. That's, you know, you know, you're, you're in the presence of a true master when they're just like, just so simple, so easy, so intuitive. Maybe things you've missed. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky.
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