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Chicken Feed with IMO4 and LAB, Molasses in Compost Tea

June 29, 2025 · by Drake Weinert

Drake opens with an I Ching reading on influence, then talks about staying authentic versus content-creator influencers. He revisits last week's theme that farming is a form of war, plus a stoic trick: treat life as sorrow by default so any good day counts as a win.

Farm news: his wife Susanna finally built a good-smelling IMO pile on her third try and is spreading it on a corn research plot. He then reviews a Muju training video where Master Cho's group make chicken feed by mixing IMO4, yeast, seawater, and lactobacillus (LAB) into manure until it smells good and turns into a vitamin-rich feed.

A missionary in the group describes his hardest challenge doing KNF in the Philippines: his purpose was ministry, not farming, so teaching basic chicken-pen setup got lost in translation. Drake ties this to his own motivation for KNF, farming to protect the ocean rather than out of love for growing food, and credits Master Lee's hands-on failures for teaching him more about IMO than Master Cho's theory.

One live question: does molasses in compost tea feed the wrong bacteria? Drake says yes, molasses mainly feeds bacteria, so a fungal-dominant tea needs ground oats or potato instead, or you'll get a bacterial bloom.

Questions answered

18:06 How long does it take to get a good IMO pile going? — Drake's wife failed three times before making one on her own that smelled great.
22:32 How is chicken feed made from scratch at the Muju farm? — They mix IMO4, yeast, seawater, and lactobacillus (LAB) into manure until it smells good and becomes vitamin-rich feed.
25:38 What was hardest about teaching KNF chicken farming in the Philippines? — His purpose was mission work, not farming, so explaining a chicken pen got lost across the language and motivation gap.
27:38 Why does Drake say his real motivation for KNF is the ocean, not farming itself? — All the runoff from land ends up in the ocean, so restoring soil is really about saving the ocean he grew up next to.
34:15 Why does Drake say Master Lee taught him more about IMO than Master Cho? — Master Cho explains IMO in theory, but Master Lee has failed at it repeatedly and shows the practical setup that actually works.
37:54 What do Hawaii KNF farmers say about setting up a chicken feed system? — It's a lot of work up front, but a properly set up pen and feed system takes you from okay to expert.
40:17 Does molasses in compost tea feed the wrong bacteria and crowd out the good ones? — Yes for fungal tea, molasses mainly feeds bacteria, so use ground oats or potato instead or you get a bacterial bloom.

Topics: imo, lab, chicken feed, poultry, compost tea, molasses, fungal tea, philippines, master lee, hawaii

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3:06 So welcome. Thanks for being here. I'm looking forward to getting some questions and then getting into the lectures with Master Cho. So before we get into too much more, some higher wisdom and put us hopefully on the right track for today and every day. So today is influencing or wooing. And it reads, an influence comes. Good fortune to those whose hearts are correct. The hexagram Hesen indicates the coming of an influence. This may take the form of a teaching from the sage, an interaction with another, or a disturbing

4:02 or pleasing event. In any case, there is good fortune if you meet the influence with proper thoughts and actions. It is a good time to remember that like attracts like. One gives expression to higher things than one is surrounded by higher things. If one indulges in what is inferior, then one can expect to have the company of inferiors. Therefore, it is wise to cling steadily to humility, independence, gentleness, and openness.

4:51 With others, keep an open heart. Free of desire. Condemning no one. Enjoying affinities while retaining your equanimity. With the sage. With the sage. Keep a clear connection. Seek resolutely to serve as a conduit for truth, innocence, and goodwill. If the influence is challenging, persevere in correctness. If it is pleasing, also persevere in correctness.

5:40 Maintaining your devotion to higher things ensures success in the coming time. Yeah, it's always good. Influence. Influence. How to be an influencer. You know, it's kind of funny. I was, uh, over the last couple days, I watched a video on, uh, the MBA. So, I don't know. MBA. Masters in Business Association. I'm always, you know, I'm, as an entrepreneur, I'm always interested in how other entrepreneurs do it. And they were talking about like these mukbang influencers. You might be able to even find the video on the YouTube, you know.

6:26 I don't know the exact name of the channel. Something MBA. I did subscribe. Um, and liked and shared. No, I didn't share it. But I could share. I'm sharing it with you word of mouth, which is the most easiest way to share restaurants and things. Um, word of mouth. Word of mouth. Word of mouth. Word of mouth. Word of mouth. Word of mouth. Word of mouth. Word of mouth. Word of mouth. Word of mouth. Word of mouth. Word of mouth. Word of mouth. Word of mouth. Word of mouth. Word of mouth. Word of mouth. Word of mouth. Word of mouth. Word of mouth. Word of mouth. Word of mouth. Word of mouth.

6:53 Word of mouth. Word of mouth. Anyway, he was showing these food mukbang influencers. And these people would get in their car. And then they'd be there and they'd be eating like all this food in front of them. Right? It's like a YouTube genre, which means like gorge yourself, basically. And it's, it's fairly popular. Um, and people would have all this food in front of them and then they'd be like, this is the, this, this is the best, you know? And they're like trying to like get the right reaction. Like this is the best sandwich I've ever had. Right?

7:28 But, but when you watch them, cause the other guy, the guy making the movie about them making their thing, kind of following them and they followed three different mukbang influencers. He had the camera facing from the side. And you would see these people like get all their stuff prepped and it'd be like, the, the, the, the sauce, the, the sauce, you know? Like, and they'd have to like go and do all these cuts and like, and later they're going to take it and cut it down and cut it to be, um, you know, exactly like the, the best reaction they had in all their second takes.

8:02 Like, they're just like, you know, they're, they're all like this, you know? And I keep, I keep saying that, but it's like, like, you know, in the, the, the, and then they keep doing these shots where they like drip stuff on and it's all dripping in front. And then, and then like, and then after like the side view, seeing like the behind the scene shot, their car is like, you know, full of like grease and like chicken wings and like, you know, sauces dripping off this. And I don't, they're filming in their car.

8:28 And it's so much different, more, it's so much more different than running a live show where there's no editing happening here. You know, if I touch my face like this or I do something or, you know, I'm like, I'm here for you live in person. I'm not trying to create some impression and take like the best shot, the best clip of this. And like, and, and, and the part that I, the part that I was like, wow, was that after they were done filming, they're just like, Oh, thank God I'm done filming. And then they're like, Oh, I got to drink some water.

9:06 And like, they're creating this illusion that like this food is so good. And it's like such a great experience. And it's like over the top. But then it's like, as soon as they're done cutting, they're like, Oh, can't believe I'm done like that grind to get this done is grind to create this illusion of this, you know? And so when I get this I Ching here and it gives me this influence and these so-called like influencers and these things that are out there, like trying to, you know, create content, content creators, influencers versus like running a live show every week here, you

9:48 know, I'm showing up to do it. Sometimes I'm like, ah, sometimes when it's done, I'm like, Oh, thank God. But most of the time I'm really enjoy our community, what we're creating. And I try to be, you know, as authentic as possible within this moment. And it really gives me a time once a week to really highly focus myself on Master Cho, his teachings, you know, watching these videos with you guys, fielding your questions, you know, representing the Pure K&F Foundation, growing what I believe to be, you know, a healthy

10:24 community of people doing the right things coming together, not just for like entertainment. Like I'm sure, I'm sure the office hours are to a degree entertaining, right? You could be doing anything with your hour. You're here to check this out. Maybe you're skipping, you know, who knows how, how, how everyone consumes it. I'm sure we all consume it slightly differently, but having this time to be present and to join as a community, even though it's virtually, and even though it's like through a YouTube, but we do the Pure K&F, we do have a way where, you know, you can join digitally through,

10:57 um, you know, like zoom. And at least then you have a voice back and a picture and get to see also people in their authenticity of just being, you know, where they are and sharing what they're doing. Like, I mean, I just, I think back to the last meeting where Chris, Chris shared all these, um, you know, he's building this huge retaining wall, planting these huge garlics and just sharing, you know, snippets of our life with each other in a way where it's, it's authentic. You know, we're not just trying to like influence or like, you know, impress each other.

11:33 We're just being like, you know, a lot of, a lot of time, like even for instance, with Chuck, it's like rabbits ate his whole garden. Right. And it's like, you know, it's just authentic. It's like, man, that kind of sucks. Right. Like, like set me back, you know, but, but it's just this, um, uh, I don't know what I'm trying to, I guess, I guess what I'm trying to say is just being authentic with each other, taking this time to be here. So, you know, we got some great people here. We got, uh, Christophe coming in from Belgium, uh, Rainbow Possum, Seattle in the house.

12:07 We got B. Hendrix somewhere on the islands. I'm not sure exactly. Oh, so back. Um, we got Big West Lons up in Canada. It's all that a boot, man. Um, uh, I used, use the idea to catch liars. If the person's trying to convince or convey, am I, yeah, yeah, no, it's the psychology of things. I am, I am, I am here trying to influence and trying to promote natural farming and trying to get more people to take care of the earth, take care of their soils. There's no doubt that that's, you know, that's a big part of what drives me to be here.

12:52 Sitting under this guy here, you know, and like, Hey, I got to carry this mission on. I got to get it out to more, you know? And yeah, being a sincere influencer. I don't, I don't know. I mean, I, I, I always think, oh, anyway, it's always, it's funny. It's the tiny, you know, you're, you're part of a tiny group of folks doing the right things. Trying to be authentic. Um, doing, doing what I know how to do. Um, so yeah. Um, yeah, you know, uh, anyway, uh, so with that influence and that thing, you know, that was just kind of my intro, my topic, you know, what was, uh, you know,

13:37 thinking about that, you know, last week I, you know, I talked a lot about peace and how to find that and how important it is to keep natural farming in your forefront. And, um, you know, it's always getting tied up in the headlines. You're always like up, down, up, down, you know, it seems like there's a little reprieve, but who knows, you know, um, war is all about deception. If you read the art of war, which if you haven't, I mean, I don't, I don't know if I said this last week, but go to LibriVox.org and check out the art of war by Myra Fogarty in, um, Toronto, Ontario.

14:11 And, um, listen, you know, it's, it's about an hour, two hours. You know, I listened to it while I mow. Um, yeah, it's free. Um, because not that life is war, but like, if you're a warrior, then you can have peace, right? If you're not, um, I don't know, it's, it's kind of the paradox of this reality is you have to be prepared for war in order to have peace. You're just prepared for peace. Someone will bring war to you and you'll get rolled. Um, and you know, and, and the classic, um, you know, I, I, I talk, you know, some veteran

14:53 farmers, one of my favorite guys, um, Rick, Rick Schuster is his name, uh, classic Hawaiian farmer, uh, been growing bananas for, you know, decades. And, and now he runs, he, he now operates big machines to like clear fields for people and stuff, which there's not big machinery in Hawaii. So he's one of the few people that can, you know, clear spaces and, and, you know, it's not, it's not the world's best farming in terms of soil and what they're doing, but, but he, you know, his thing to me is like farming is war, you know, it's just like, yeah.

15:30 Um, you know, I mean, even, even the story with Chuck and the rabbits, you know, it's like, no, you know, you weren't prepared in your defenses and the enemy came and it ate your stuff, you know, um, we're, we're battling against the elements to do this. And, you know, I wish, you know, and, and, and the thing with natural farming and master chose, it's farming in harmony with nature, right? And I don't like the word harmony. I say farming and balance with nature. Um, and you're trying to be as peaceful as possible, but you're doing it by overwhelming numbers, right?

16:05 The way, the way to take an enemy is to have, you know, overwhelming numbers and you can, you can swarm and just, you know, take them peacefully, right? They'll usually surrender. And it's the same with fighting, you know, um, fungus or bacterias. It's like you get overwhelming numbers of good guys or, or, you know, beneficial for, for your needs, beneficials, and they take over just like this. Um, you know, the idea of, you know, is it really, it's, it's really war. It's like, it could be love, you know, love, love hurts. Right.

16:39 You know, um, that's, that's also another classic thing, but, um, but anyway, being, you know, being prepared. And also if you set yourself up, it's, it's kind of a stoic idea, setting yourself up for failure. And then when it happens, it's not that bad. And if it doesn't happen, then you, you, you, you know, you only have up from there. It's, there's a, there's a kind of a, uh, take that I have that life is sorrow. So if I set myself, like, if you're like, life is okay, you're here, right? And if life is good, you're up here. And, but if life is bad, you're down here.

17:15 So if you just say life's okay, and then you have bad things happen, you go down and good things happen. And you go up, go down, go up versus if you say life is sorrow and you set yourself down here and then anything that happens, that's sorrow. You're just, you're already there. You don't have to like be upset or disappointed and anything that's okay or good moves you up from there. And it's like, wow, this like something that's just okay. It's like great. Something that's really good. It's just fantastic. Right.

17:44 And so if you always say, say life is sorrow and you stay at this baseline of like, ah, that's just what life is and everything's up from there. And it's kind of, uh, um, I don't know. It's an interesting philosophy. It's one that I've been keeping in my life. Like, yeah, that way, that way you can't be blindsided by disappointment or things coming down. And I, I don't know. I don't know if that's a natural farming philosophy, you know, expect a famine. And then from there it's all a feast, right? I don't know. Um, you know, expect, expect your IMOs to fail.

18:21 And when they don't, it's like, yeah, it's, you know, it's a blessing. It's one of the best things. I don't know. Anyway, um, news on the farm, news on the farm. My wife made an amazing IMO pile. It smells just gorgeous. Um, took her three times failing, but she finally by herself without me made a great IMO pile. So if I can, if my wife can do it, you can. She is amazing. She's dedicated. She has the kindest heart set herself to it. She has made amazing. And now she's spreading it on her research project and to grow some beautiful corn. And the days are so long right now.

19:04 It's like, I get inside the house at late and then I'm like nine o'clock. I'm like, how is it nine o'clock already? I'm like, oh, because it was dark till like seven 30. That's it. It was late till seven 30. That's like, you know, usually anyway, um, long days right now. Enjoying grass is growing wild. And it, it's amazing. I look, I look out at my pastures in the summer. And I feel so good about my life. Like I'm doing really good for these pastures. I'm doing really good for these cows. And then winter comes and the grass gets not as, doesn't grow as fast. It doesn't look as lush.

19:40 And I'm like, I need to do better. It's, but it's the swing of nature, man. And, uh, it's up, it's the down. And so I, I do think, uh, year over year, it is improving. It is getting way better. It's just, uh, sometimes I'd look at it in the winter and I'm like, it's so bleak. And it's like, well, you got everything going against you right now. So, um, so staying in those upper things, far north, it stays late till about 10 right now. Yeah, I remember I used to live, um, used to live in Montana, about the 45th parallel, above the 45th parallel, I think.

20:21 And, uh, yeah, it would stay late till 10 p.m. Take a bike ride at 10 p.m., you know. Nice. Summer. Float in the river. Stuff. Gorgeous. Um, yeah, it gets dark around 3.30 though. Uh, yeah. Um. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's, it's the cycle of nature, you know, getting to know these things. So, anyway, uh, you know, if you got any questions, drop them in the chat. Otherwise, um, you know, let's, uh, let's get into, uh, um, poultry training.

21:06 Um, are we, we're in the question and answer period. I don't know how this is going, you know. To me, I'm a little bit like, do we really want to go through this? It's like, you know, here we are, we're sitting at the table talking story. It's going through four translators. It's kind of boring. I prefer when we're in the field. Like, when we're looking and we're, like, actually seeing stuff. Like, going through the chickens and seeing grass being cut. Versus just talking. But so far, you know, what have I learned from this talking? Well, let's review a little bit.

21:37 I've learned that everyone that was on this trip was super grateful for the information they learned in this trip. They'd have all been practicing chicken farming, especially these Taiwanese folks. But they didn't know the level of craftsmanship and the precision and the amazingness and the intricacies of how you could make it even better. You know, this episode was a lot about going over how to make the chicken feed while we're in Muzhu. We also did that when we were in Gok Song with Mr. Lee. But, you know, this one really start to finish.

22:17 Putting in the different, you know, yeast and making, taking manures and adding IMO4, yeast, seawater, LAB, lactobacillus into the, um, into the manure to make it just, like, smell amazing and become a beneficial food supply and have enough vitamins. And here we are discussing it. And these folks are some of the best natural farmers around. Um, and, you know, their minds are being blown. My mind was blown. This was one of the most hands-on things ever. So sitting here, talking story, reviewing it a bit, eh, I'm not sure how much value we'll get out of it. I think there's some good things.

23:00 Seeing them reflect on it, you know, it's always nice to, uh, to see what they have going. So let's, uh, let's see where we're at. I don't, I didn't change the volume yet. I gotta get that thing. I downloaded, uh, Black Hole to try to reroute the audio. I gotta run it through something that'll, like, let me monitor it at a lower volume. I didn't implement it yet. God, I should run this through and then have it not run system volume through my microphone. Feedback loop. Anyway, um, let's get into it. I like this guy.

23:47 I like this guy a lot. He's cool. Uh, oh, yeah, so, um, yeah, you enjoy this part? It's touching? Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll go through it. Skip the translation. It's not, uh, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not. It's not, it's not, it's not. It's not, it's not. It's not, it's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. Two questions. Two questions. Two questions. Two questions. Two questions. Two questions. Two questions.

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25:08 That's what we don't want our reasons. First, in our country, we don't want our reasons. In our country, we don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons.

25:29 We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. We don't want our reasons. So his main problem was because his purpose of natural farming was just a mission. It's not for the farming itself.

25:54 And he tried to teach or translate this one in Philippines. They didn't understand what he was trying to say. He would say chicken and they didn't know how to what's it means, you know? So that was a difficult things. Okay. Yeah. Nothing like going to the Philippines to hone your natural farming skills. I mean, here, you know, here we are in Korea in this nice building doing these things, you know, his thing filled with machinery. You get down with the Filipino people. Certain people in the Philippines have this kind of access, but I'd say 99.9% of them don't.

26:33 And so, you know, really getting into honing your natural farming skills. It's, you know, it's like one of those things where like, if you have access, you know, you just, you're just like, what do you, what's your problem? Just buy a bag of sugar. And you get to the Philippines and it's like, you can't just be like, buy a bag of sugar. You got to be like, all right, let's learn how to use what we got right here at our feet. And talk about, you know, you become a master of natural farming there. And then, you know, and then also it's like, what's your reason for doing natural farming?

27:05 I think, I think that, you know, that can be a biggest struggle, you know, even for me. If, if my mission was just to grow food and just to grow food, I think I'd probably do okay at it. I, it's a, but that's not my mission. Like, I don't, I don't really like growing food. Like I have friends that are like, they love it. Like farming is their jam and they love, you know, bringing it, like harvesting a whole field of, of zucchinis. You know, to me, that's like, I like harvesting enough zucchini to, to feed myself. Even then, like, sometimes I don't even do that.

27:40 Like I just harvested a taro the other day. I was super grinds, you know, but I'm not even growing, you know, like, like I'm growing to be like a homesteader. I'm growing to save the ocean. I mean, if you read my book, you'll be like, it's dedicated to the ocean, right? It's not dedicated to the farmers, not dedicated to the land, dedicated to the ocean. Why did I dedicate it to the ocean? It's because man, all the water runs off the land, goes into the ocean. If the ocean dies, we all die.

28:11 The ocean for, for me as a Hawaiian, it is like, it is the most tragic thing to see the state of our ocean. I hear stories that when, when people, the bay just down, just about a mile down from me here, you couldn't reach your hand in the water without touching a fish. That's how fertile and abundant it was. Now you go out there, you, you know, the water's all murky. You, there's not a single fish. I mean, there, there are fish, but they're like the corals dead. It's all murky. There's soot. There's no, like, there's no lobster. You don't even want to go in the ocean. It's gross.

28:50 It, you come out feeling more filthy than when you went in before. And that's our ocean. That's our mother. Like that's, that's the, that's, you know, the land is the, is the, is the man. The ocean is the mother. And it's like, we've, we decimated it. And, and, and, you know, so, so like having, you know, the right, um, the right reasons to get out there and farm, you know, like maybe if I just dedicated myself to farming, I'd inspire more people and people would be like, oh, this is the way to farm.

29:22 Like, but I'm not even like farmers doing like farming is just an excuse for like touching the environment. You know, you get paid to be outside to like touch the land and improve the land through farming. And it's not like, so I, so I feel his pain on that. You know, what's the most difficult thing is like, he was there just to spread the word of God. And I'm here just to spread the word of master Cho to save our oceans. And, and it's like, man, it can be hard, you know, like if people are like, well, you're not that good of a farmer. Where's your farm?

29:54 You know, like, and it's like, it's here. I'm ranching. I'm doing good. I'm cleaning the water. I'm cleaning the, you know, I'm, I'm staying true to my mission. Right. I'm trying to spread this so that other people who do really love farming, which I'm sure some of you do, I'm sure you do like, you know, some of us out there love growing produce and love growing flowers and love growing grass and love growing all these things. And like, and to be able to give you those tools where like, I mean, yeah, everyone has their own passion.

30:25 And, and for me, like, ah, anyway, so I feel, I, you know, I guess, I guess this is a good session. Cause for me, I feel a lot of this same struggle. What's the hardest part of doing natural farming is like farming is not my passion. I, here I am, I'm cast into this and I'm like doing something where it's Korean natural farming. I mean, I'd rather call it, you know, I'd rather call it like, you know, um, Korean natural earth saving or Korean natural earth cleaning, or, you know, like the solution to, to, to survival or the solution to our ocean, you know, growing enough food to sustain myself.

31:00 And I just, I, you know, yeah, anyway, I, I, I feel his pain a lot on this. Like that can be the hardest part to convey to folks is like, you know, what, how does this benefit you? And it's like, well, it, you know, in a lot of ways, bro. But, um, you know, if you're not in the same passion zone as other folks, maybe you won't attract them. You know, and you know, all the, all the people out there doing like earth conservation and trying to, trying to make the earth, you know, like Greta Thunberg, it's like, get her into natural farming, you know?

31:34 Um, instead of driving on a boat to get arrested with baby formula, you know, it's like, what do you, you know, I, I mean, everyone has their own way of doing it. I'm not discounting any other way, but like, uh, taking care of the ocean, taking care of the land, farming, growing food, like seems all like legit, right? Teaching people about this, giving people tools where no matter where you are, you can thrive. And this guy, he, I mean, not, not Dr. Park, but master, uh, master, uh, Lee right behind him, masterly masterly. Um, he, he, you know, learning, learning, doing it, embedding it.

32:07 Like that is the way. Um, yeah. Yeah. Uh, Kealakuku, or Keahobee. Um, yeah, it is a far cry from what it used to be. The ocean is dying and it's scary. If the ocean dies, we die. It literally, uh, it, you know, you can fuck up the land a lot, but if the ocean dies, we all die. You know, it's like, yeah, it is, um, oh, yeah. I mean, I think of all the things we do and it's like, the, the nutrients have to run off the land properly to get into the ocean. Not create dead zones to create a thriving ecosystem. Your estuary should be your most.

32:45 Anyway, I could go on and on about like how the land affects the ocean and what we do makes a difference. But, um, anyway, I feel this guy's pain. Let's continue. I think I've failed to do that. I've failed to do that. I've failed to do that. I've failed to do that. I've failed to do that. I've failed to do that. I've failed to do that. I've failed to do that. I've failed to do that. I've failed to do that. Yep. The, uh, you know, and, and the trollers out there just trolling the bottom of the ocean and the, the mega kill fish, you know, boats out there. It's, it's sad.

33:13 I mean, we are just ripping every single thing. I mean, uh, anyway, farming's war, life's war. Um, but learning how to be a warrior so you can do peace, uh, is super cool. Uh, anyway, we'll continue. Yeah. We're doing this. We're doing this. We're doing this. We're doing this. We're doing this. We're doing this. We're doing this. We're doing this. We're doing this. We're doing this. We're doing this. We're doing this. We're doing this. We're doing this. We're doing this. We're doing this. We're doing this. We're doing this. We're doing this. We're doing this.

33:48 I'm trying to skip to just the English parts and then like skip forward to where he's talking English and then let it go because I don't speak Chinese nor Japanese. I speak, uh, I think that's right. Hana would be nose, but like, um, anyway, um, He has failed many times about this microorganism. Yeah. He did how to be useful. He did how to be useful using stuff like that. So just microorganism itself was a very difficult one. Yeah. Okay. The next. And that's what I was just leading into this episode, talking about my wife failing three

34:29 times, like to understand how to cultivate the IMOs, to understand how to turn them right, to have the right equipment, to have the right setup, to have the right thing. I've learned more from master Lee about IMO and the subtleties and how to do it. Then master Cho, master Cho talks about it conceptually. Master Lee does it physically and brings it into the real world. And if you look at his setup and you turn IMOs with them, this, this series where we're in his place, turning microbes with them, the other series where I went to his place and we like made IMOs, I've learned more from this guy.

35:03 He, he is a master of the microorganisms and how to do it properly. You know, master Cho will tell you all these stuffs and things. It's like real theoretical. Master Lee is like the practical dude. And he, and why is he practical? Cause he's failed, you know, time and time and time and time again. And I just, I was looking through some old photos on my, um, on my computer here. And I found my first IMO one box and I found my first IMO piles and I look at them and I'm like, Holy actino, holy wrong thing to grow. Holy like didn't understand what I was even doing.

35:43 But when you do it right and you get forest fungal, good earth smelling microbes, it is phenomenal. And my wife just did that. So props, props to Susanna and her perseverance to be able to do it. And just like, uh, master Lee here, you know, she failed, failed, and finally got it and just kept going. And, uh, knowing, you know, having me here to be like, yeah, I don't know about that one. And then to be like, yep, this one's good. You know, that is also helpful because certain people fail and they don't even know they failed.

36:16 When I first started, right, I would go about it and I would do some things and I didn't even know it was wrong. Right. And that's what I'm trying to do with the office hours, trying to do with, you know, training folks, even though I haven't really been training folks up and well, I have, I mean, but not, you know, it just, anyway. All right. Let's keep going. What I feel. This is the kind of seminar that I'm really looking for. Um, I already make the chicken half, but not put, not put the chicken yet because I'm, I have a problem with making the feed.

36:50 So, uh, I have a lot, again, a lot of information through this space and the, uh, reality, I mean, uh, slightly different, um, sources. So these two information, uh, many options to make my own sources of chicken, especially for the lady. Now you explained already the English, so you can learn Korean and then. She didn't understand that you got to speak. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. We learned a lot of things here. We learned a lot of things here. But, you know, for sharing with us and, um, welcoming us to your farm.

37:39 Um. So, yeah, I, I kind of, um, um, agree with him. Uh, you know, you know, you know how to do like the chicken floor, the chicken pen, easy to set up, knowing the food and the feeds that we went through in this episode. It's just like, it'll take you from being okay. To being like an expert. And. It's a lot of work. It's a lot of effort. But, you know, getting the system set up, right. Lower your. I don't know. I think it is amazing. It's amazing. So. For everyone to hear. Mikey over here. He's doing chickens in Oahu. I don't know. I should call him up and be like, bro, how you doing? Um.

38:23 But I haven't checked in with him for a while. And Bolo San over here doing a, doing, he was doing, he did some chickens with, with Joe. And then he's been, you know, but Bolo San has like the natural farming headquarters on Oahu. Bolo San, Steven, bro. He's, he's fricking epic. He's fricking epic. The heart of gold. Love this guy. And, and, you know, everyone that's there. What am I talking about? Like everyone that's there has a heart of gold. That was the first time I actually had, you know, to the key. So when I get home and start making that, um, and drinking it on a daily basis, you know,

38:54 cause I felt good after and I'm real energized, but, um, it's very, very inspirational seeing other farmers, you know, recognize Master Chou's way. And they've been doing it for a while and they, they tell you that it worked and you just got to trust it. And there's only a few of us on Hawaii that are doing it, you know, and, and just coming here and seeing that they've been doing it for so long. It's very inspirational. And like you said, it gives us confidence and knowing that what we're doing is right.

39:20 And, um, that we cannot fail if we just follow what he says, you know, if he says it, you just got to observe and just keep doing it, you know, keep doing it. And you're going to have success. And that was the biggest thing for me that is that don't give up. You ask that to just keep doing it. And that's what I want to know. And yeah, I just, yeah, big Mahalo. It really very inspirational, very inspirational. This is heartwarming. You're right, Wes. It really is to hear that, you know, Mikey and the people it's like, you know, there's only a few people in Hawaii doing it. You know, that was me.

39:52 Uh, and, and then to come to Korea, to see it happening and then to learn the intricacies and to do these things, man. And to listen to master Cho, you know, you can think, you think, you know, what is what you're doing, you know, but when you listen to what he's saying, you listen to what he's talking about. It's like, you know, uh, put your ego aside and just, uh, do what the master says and give it a try. And, uh, yeah. Uh, so there's a question here. Let's, let's jump to this. It says, is it true molasses helps grow the wrong type of bacteria in compost tea out competing the good ones?

40:30 Um, molasses, molasses tends to grow bacteria. So when you're trying to grow fungal and make a fungal tea molasses feeds your, um, your bacterias. Let me jump over here real quick. So, so molasses is not always the best molasses can keep like lactobacillus alive, can help stimulate lactobacillus. But if you're going to put a bunch of molasses in a compost tea, you're probably going to grow a highly bacterially oriented tea. Uh, what's better to put in there is like ground up oats or more fungal foods, um, more complex carbohydrates, uh, potato type thing.

41:11 Um, and you know, it depends on how those things are put in there, but, um, yeah, having more, uh, complex, complex carbohydrates will help you versus sugars. If you put in a whole bunch of sugar, it will cause, um, bacterial blooms and you don't really need that much bacteria. Um, you're better off to get nice, good fungal. So yes, molasses can make your compost tea not as good if you're, if that's your only food source. Anyway, I'll jump back to this. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one.

41:56 You know, the other, the other challenging thing about this is like people want to say all this stuff and they want to say all these things, but then it has to go through four translators. So you really got to say like a sentence, let it get translated, say a sentence, let it get translated, say a sentence, let it get translated. You try and say like a whole paragraph and then try to have it come out the other end. And every person is going to paraphrase what you've said. And by the time it gets to the end, it's like the guy's like, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

42:18 And you're like, bro, I talked for like three minutes. How'd you just translate it into that? And it's just like natural farming is good. Master Chou is good. It's like, yeah. Ugh. Anyway. I suppose I could run all this through like a chat GPT at this point, which is nice. That's why I record in full and I don't just like make cuts and things because now I have this full thing. And later you could go back and look at it and see, you know, what did those people really say in these languages? Is it being translated properly now that we have like, you know, power of chat to help us?

42:55 When he drinks, he thinks he's really good. He's going to go back and do it. And the second thing is, hey, from the audience, he's going to listen to the words. Don't forget. It does sound like a fair amount of this got translated into Chinese though. Come and learn. No, no, no. Okay. The next thing. Yes, like Mike was saying, really grateful and appreciate this opportunity to come and learn from Master Chou and his advanced disciples. Um, both Pastor Lee and Mr. Lee's farms are outstanding and incredible.

43:29 And, uh, it really gives us, um, goals and, uh, ideas and, and, you know, visuals to, uh, to, to look forward to and, um, to create and to build. Yes. There's nothing like being immersed in it. You know, someone can tell you stuff all day, but go in there and be in there and seeing it, you know, God, thank God for this blessing that we were able to do this at that time. Like being immersed in something like, it's just, you know, yeah. Yeah. I mean, thank God was there. Yeah. Mahalo. Mahalo. Oh, and Hawaiian being spoken. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo.

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1:03:44 Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. So, yeah, there you go. What a good thing. What a good thing there that we got to listen to that heartfelt warmth, you know? Maybe I should have said more. Maybe I should have said less. But no, it really, you know, when you hear natural farming and you hear this stuff, I think back to my comments there of like, you know, I'm grateful for the whole thing.

1:04:33 Yeah. Understanding how much precision, how much mastery Master Cho has and how grateful I was to be there with everybody and to do that. Everyone else kind of spoke of these opportunities, these things, you know, and it's like, yeah, it really was a great time to be there. So, I'm glad you were here to join us, your KNF Foundation, doing our stuff every Sunday, natural farming podcast with Master Cho. Sharing the knowledge, sharing the love, getting this so that it didn't just die there.

1:05:05 But, you know, like everyone, you know, you heard throughout the thing, it's like, you know, we got to be those leaders, those disciples. And you here as someone that's tuned in, I hope you're doing your part out there to, you know, be an example yourself, share it with others, you know? And, you know, keep, keep the, you know, do it for the ocean, do it for the land, do it for whatever reason turns you on. Right? I'm sure you are already, but, you know, reflect back on that. What is your reason for doing natural farming? What, you know, what motivates you?

1:05:40 What can make you even more of a person? Because you're, you know, in this, you're special. You have this influence and continuing to do it right. Yeah, be the influencer. Yeah, cool. Well, anyway, thanks for tuning in. I will see you next Sunday, hopefully. Thanks for being here. And if God provides us and we stay alive until then and peace prevails because we are warriors trained in war, I love it. And thanks, thanks for being here. Love you. Peace. Yeah. Long live the natural farmer. Aloha. I'll see you next time. I'm going to go out with a burst. All right. Bye.

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