Vortex Compost Tea Brewers, LAB Shelf Life, Taro Leaf Solution
Drake opens with a rough week on the cattle side: a breech birth he and his wife pulled with a timber hitch and a winch, and a decision to add seawater and minerals to the herd's routine.
Christophe's LAB question gets a straight answer: once diluted, LAB solutions are good for two to three days, pushing it at five, and bad by seven — trust your nose. White mold in a LAB jar means the filter was too coarse; filter through a t-shirt to catch micro-curds before they grow. Unstabilized LAB in the fridge only lasts a few months, a few weeks without one.
On IPMO, whatever material trains your microbes — insect frass, chicken feed, superworms — they're all training the same target molecule, chitin, so the source doesn't matter much. For compost tea brewers, Drake pushes for one simple pipe and a vortex over multiple pipes and air stones: spinning water pulls oxygen in far better than bubbles, and fewer parts means less to clean and contaminate. He runs his own brewer about an hour on, twelve hours off, then fifteen minutes before use.
Other answers: dilute IMOT one-to-ten for a drench, an oscillating tool cuts brewer lids cleanly, and lemongrass drives off fleas and mites on dogs and in chicken coops. Archive footage closes the show with Master Cho explaining taro leaf care: leaf growth solution when new leaves emerge, fruit solution one week before harvest.
Questions answered
- 21:52 White mold showed up in a LAB jar — what happened? — Micro-curds likely slipped through a coarse filter and started growing mold; filter LAB through a fine cloth like a t-shirt.
- 22:31 How long can diluted KNF solutions be stored before they spoil? — About two to three days is safe, five days is pushing it, and by seven days it smells bad — trust your nose.
- 25:13 Does it matter if IMOs eat yard insects versus chicken feed and superworms? — No — whatever you feed them, you're training the microbes to eat chitin, and chitin is chitin.
- 27:27 How should I build a compost tea brewer? — Keep it simple: one pipe, one vortex, air pump above the water line, no air stones, nothing complex to clean.
- 36:43 Any KNF fix for fleas or mites? — Lemongrass — boiled into dog-wash soap for fleas, or cut fresh in the coop for mites; weekly treatment for about two months clears them.
- 39:27 Is a year-and-a-half-old bottle of unstabilized LAB in the fridge still good? — No — unstabilized LAB only lasts a few months in the fridge and a few weeks without one.
- 40:05 Doesn't turbulence in a vortex brewer hurt microbe growth while it's running? — Yes, but he doesn't run it the whole time — about an hour to mix and oxygenate, then off for twelve hours, then fifteen minutes before use.
- 42:10 How much should I dilute IMOT for a soil drench? — Somewhere between one-to-ten and one-to-hundred depending on the goal; one-to-ten followed by a water rinse is easiest.
- 43:35 How do you cut holes in a plastic bottle for a brewer without cracking it? — An oscillating tool cuts clean through the plastic; a torch could work too.
- 44:15 How much should I dilute solution to drench a banana and persimmon tree? — Dilute one-to-ten in a 55-gallon barrel, then run a sprinkler after to work it into the soil.
- 50:26 When do you spray taro leaves — type two or type three solution? — Master Cho: type two, the leaf growth solution, goes on as new leaves emerge; type three goes on about a week before harvest.
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In this episode
- 0:00 I Ching Reading and Opening
- 7:24 Community Check-In Around the World
- 8:44 Cattle Ranching and a Breech Birth
- 17:57 Supplementing Cattle with Minerals
- 22:31 LAB Shelf Life and Filtering
- 25:13 IPMO and Chitin Training
- 27:27 Critiquing Compost Tea Brewer Designs
- 30:44 Vortex Brewer Demo
- 36:43 Lemongrass for Fleas and Mites
- 39:27 Unstabilized LAB Gone Bad
- 41:27 IMOT Dilution for Drenching
- 43:35 Cutting Tools for Brewer Builds
- 49:43 Master Cho Archive: Taro Leaf Solution
Transcript
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2:32 And it says,
5:34 You know, You will inherit the power. Great. Which is good. Yeah. You ever, you ever think of that? Like when someone does wrong to you or whatever, like, you know, you could scold them, but instead, if you say nothing and you just let them kind of mire in their own thing, I mean, there's some like narcissistic people that will just never get it right. And they never, they just lack all compassion because they're, they're, um, psychopaths or whatever. But instead of correcting someone, you know, or at least, at least in my case, I can tell you like the inner voice, the inner correction, like,
6:16 man, I shouldn't have said that, man, I should have approached this better. But if someone's like, yeah, then you're just like, you're off the hook and you don't have that inner reflection back to be like, how could I make that situation better? And it's usually like, usually you are your own harshest critic. And I think that's what this is getting to in terms of like people with consciences, right? If you're just dealing with a psychopath, then good luck. Right. But anybody else that does something, it's like, just let them wallow in their own thing. You don't have to discipline them.
6:48 Just let them, they'll, they'll, they'll fix themselves through it, you know? And, uh, I think that's also the power of the great reticence in action. You don't have to correct people. You don't have to say this or that. You just show a better example, let them kind of do it. And they will, your own harshest critic will get you. You, you're always like, man, you're such a, and everyone else is like, it's okay. We're, we're over it. And you're like, I should have done this better or whatever. At least that's how I am. I don't know. You are the same. Maybe you're a psychopath. I don't know. Um,
7:21 but anyway, uh, so we got some great folks in the house. Yes, it is. It is a great Sunday to be here with you all gathering around the world. We got Christophe coming in from Belgium. Yo, the agricultural capital of Europe. I'm just going to call it that. I don't know if it really is, but it is right around Christophe's house. Let me tell you. We got Thomas coming in from alligator central. I mean, Florida. Um, we got Mark. Where are you? Mark. He lost. He was in Oregon. Who knows? He's, he's a West coast vagabond cruising up and down, doing good things all over the West coast of America.
7:57 The left coast. Some people call it, um, rainbow possum farm. Also up in Washington. Cool. Cool. Goof man, New York. We got the whole crew. B. B. Hendricks. You're on the big island somewhere. I don't know. Somewhere in Hawaii. I think. I think. I could be wrong. Just got done counting persimmons saplings out in the field. It is great to be growing persimmons in April. Cool. Stone Mason. What's up, Indiana? Cecily, Western Australia represent. Cool. It's so cool to see everyone gather from around the world to come here, to be part of natural farming, to be part of the family,
8:35 to represent master Cho, do his good things. All that. Um, yeah. Garden. Redone a little late for Florida. Yep. Getting hot already. I can tell you, man, I, I was out in the hot sun last two days. I'm becoming a full-time rancher, not a full-time. It's more like part-time, but, uh, ranching is no joke. Out the day before, just moving cows, cows escaping, uh, managing cows, building better pastures, making sure that I can get good rotations going, um, taking responsibility for my animals instead of trying to have other people watch after them and learn. Because they're, they refuse to learn,
9:20 then I have to do it. Yeah, I mean, the only person that's going to do it right the way you want is yourself. And if you're, if you're not, um, well, I don't know if that's true universally, but, say, if you want it done right, do it yourself. And so, um, I'm glad to, to do that. And, um, then I was out fixing fence yesterday. And, if you don't have good fences, the cows know where it is, and they will break through that thing. So, I have some perimeter fences and some hard inner fencing, but most of it's electric fence. And, um, gotten better at the electric fence,
9:53 but I'm fixing the barbed wire to keep them out of certain sectors. And, um, yeah, so, I was out ranching all day. And, uh, some tragic news, in case anyone was on, you know, you need your daily dose of tragedy. Um, my, my matriarchal, how, her name's Daryl. She gave birth, uh, to a, well, I'm not sure it was, but, uh, she had a breached birth. So, uh, this was, you know, it was, um, usually she just kind of goes in the bushes and does her thing and comes back with a baby calf. But, I had her in a pasture right behind my house where I could see her. She was in the lawn, mowing the lawn,
10:39 with the other five cows. And, um, saw her giving birth and was like, oh, and she was laying down and it was taking quite a while. And I'm like, I think this is taking longer than normal. So I looked on the internet because I'm not a professional rancher. And when you're learning, it's like, okay. And, uh, yeah, so we watched, she was laying down, went up to go, I had to go milk. So I go up and milk, come back about an hour later, feeding my pig and the chickens and come back. And she's still laying there and the baby's sort of poking out. I'm like, ah, I'm looking at it. I'm like, starting,
11:17 sun's starting to set. I'm like, hmm, that looks like a tail coming out of the, uh, you know, I was like that. That's definitely a tail. It's covered in a bunch of goop. And I'm like, that's a tail. And so we called, uh, called a dairy man and, uh, his wife helped us out. And she walked us, she, she gave us a, you know, she's like, hmm, that's definitely a breached birth. If you're seeing the tail and, um, you know, you're, uh, you're going to need to intervene because, um, it's really hard when the tail, so the, the hoof hooves are supposed to come out first.
11:58 Usually see the hooves coming out one hoof, a second hoof, and then you'll see the nose and the cow will just kind of flop out. And it should take about a half hour for a cow to be born regularly, normally. But when you see the tail, man, it was like distended. It looked like, uh, Ooh, it looked painful. So, uh, she was laying down and, um, after getting a briefing, uh, we, uh, we ended up, uh, taking a rope and luckily the, the, uh, legs were coming out. Like she had passed, the cow was, uh, I would about yay much. Oh, and I could see this kind of thing.
12:35 And I wasn't even sure what I was really looking at. And luckily she was right where she was. And we were able to observe this. Had she been in a different pasture, I may not even see this happen, but it was God, God's, God's blessing that she was in that pasture. And we hooked a rope around and I used some of the knots that we've been practicing as a family, which is good. You should always know knots as a farmer. You should always know a few. So we ended up using a round turn, two half hitches on the, uh, anchor point side of the winch.
13:08 And then I used a timber hitch around the slippery leg that I could see protruding in this little leg that I could see. And I tied a timber hitch around that and got it tight, got the winch. My wife and I had my wife winch while I watched and just trying to maintain our safety because I wasn't sure how she would react. Uh, Daryl would react to us being right there. And I didn't, I didn't want to jeopardize our safety and get injured trying to assist that a huge animal giving birth, but I knew she needed assistance. So she laid there,
13:39 we hooked the winch to her and we winched that baby out of her, which was gnarly as ever. And like all kinds of goop and fluid and all kinds of stuff started emerging. And it was just like, whoa. And, but knowing the right knots to be able to hook on to something like that, it was super gnarly, super, super gnarly. And, um, the baby was long past dead because, um, the, uh, what do you call them? Um, uh, placenta, placenta had burst already guaranteed and it was backwards and it had suffocated. Um, it just, because of the complication of the birth. And I don't know, had I been more prepared,
14:21 had I been able to save the baby? I don't know. I don't know. Um, you know, I'm not a professional person and I didn't want to call a vet to spend like thousands of dollars to do a cesarean type of thing. It's like either she's going to make it or we're going to shift gears and, you know, get out the headlamps and get out the winch and, uh, and, uh, you know, make some hamburger. I'm not, I'm not going to pay thousands of dollars just to save an animal that I was going to slaughter anyway, eventually, but I'm hoping to get more babies. So, I hope I'm not too heartless that way. You know,
14:56 some people might be like, oh, you're heartless, but you know, I don't, I don't, the baby was already dead by the time we realized that we needed to do something because when you have a breech birth, man, it's coming out backwards. It's head can't get out to take a gasp of air and the thing had already burst. It's just, it's, there's no, I don't think there's any good way to do it. And by the time, you know, I'm just too amateur to know. And, uh, so it, it, it, uh, baby came out stillborn, uh, in terms of it probably was alive,
15:23 but it probably died during the birthing process because it probably suffocated my guess, um, coming out backwards. So, but we were able to winch it out and we were able to, and we saved Daryl. So, um, I don't know if she would have been able to pass the cow by herself. I don't know. Um, yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure you tuned in this Sunday to hear all this, this gruesome story. Uh, it's kind of gruesome, right? Uh, but, uh, that's what I was up to learning, you know, farm life, man, farming, uh, the most tragic thing you can do is farm. I tell you the amount of death. Well, maybe,
15:57 maybe like hospital workers are like EMTs or firefight. I'm sure any emergency services type of thing, but farming, is probably one of the most tragic things to do. It's probably one of the most rewarding, but it's also one of the most tragic, uh, things of just, man, the amount of deaths I've seen and like actually killing your animals to eat them. Uh, it's just, it's wild, man, but killing plants to eat them too. I mean, you know, there's no, uh, you know, no good way to do it, but yeah, realist people. I tell you, um, yeah, it's, it is real. So, um, you know,
16:30 if you don't know a timber hitch, I would definitely suggest learning a timber hitch, super useful. Um, and if you don't know a round turn, two half hitches, definitely recommend that. Um, learning knots being the skills you have to have, you know, and, and all the tools you have to have. I mean, that we just happen to have a winch on the farm because we use it for fencing and all these things. And I don't know if my wife and I would have been able to pull it out without a winch because getting footing, getting all the, you know, it's just, oh man,
16:59 the complexity of dealing with such large animals. Like she's, she's like a two ton animal, one, maybe one ton. I don't know. She's heavy. And the baby was small. And it came out and, uh, but anyway, so, um, no, we're not, we're not going to eat the baby that came out. Uh, it's just, that's slightly too brutal. I'm not going to make veal out of the baby. Uh, we are going to bury her under a tree and turn her into a tree, which I think is a better thing to do. Maybe I could have made cow amino acid. I could maybe, if I was more prepared and I had more sugar on hand, I probably could have, um,
17:39 but yeah, anyway, um, you know, wild. So anyway, that's been my, my week, uh, wild and crazy doing all kinds of branching and getting real. And I realized, you know, one of the, one of the things I've been realizing here is that I need to do a little bit more supplementation. I need to probably get the fields more fertile via natural farming, IMOs, maintenance solution out there, growth solution on them. Uh, and I also need to supplement the cows directly. Uh, So today we're going to go pick up more seawater and I think I need to get more minerals into them.
18:11 and I also need to supplement the cows directly. I'm not sure if a mineral deficiency would cause the breached baby. I don't know, but I can tell you that I could definitely up my mineral game into the cows because the other calves are still nursing on the moms and they're looking a little skinny. And it's just, I need to do more natural farming on the cows. I was doing it on plants, doing it on soil, but I really need to focus specifically on my cows. And I think I could raise better cows. And so I'm looking forward to doing that, getting, you know, putting my, uh, what is it?
18:54 The money where the mouth is. I don't know. It's just a saying, but like eating your own dog food, I guess is another way of saying it. It's just like practice what you preach, right? Um, cause I have these skills, and I have these things, but sometimes putting it all into practice, like one of my things has been just like, here I am trying to share it with the world, but also just doing it myself, right? And just getting, pulling into my own thing, doing my own thing, really making the model farm, making master Joe proud by being the good example for myself. I think I can do,
19:26 I can up my game a bit. Sure. We all can, right? Sure. We all can. Um, and so looking forward to doing that and seeing the results, results directly in the cows, because I'm sort of getting serious about really switching just straight over to cows. It's been a long transition since 2020 of realizing that I need to do this and that this is in our wheelhouse and that we should be doing this. Our land's going to support it. It's going to support our land. It's going to support our family. It's food. People want it. I don't know how many people I go around and they're like, Oh, you have beef?
20:00 I'll buy a quarter cow. I'll buy a half cow. So the market's there. I know people want antibiotic free beef without having mRNA in it. You know, I mean, there's mRNA in there, but not like squirted into them. And I'm hearing about the genetically modified bacterias they're pumping through and just all this wild stuff they're doing to our livestock. So if you don't know your farmer and you don't, especially your meat grower, your meat producer, I highly recommend you get out to the field, get out to the farm, meet those people, get down with them, help them process, help them do their thing,
20:38 bring some natural farming to them. Help this all happen because regenerative livestock, regenerative animals, I think is a huge bit of our future. And so I think, um, yeah, anyway, that's, that's my path. That's what I'm on. And even though there's tragedy in it, it's also, there's so much goodness in it. I love the cows. I love moving them. I think that I could up my game a little bit better to make them slightly healthier and we're all going to benefit. So, um, well, speaking of that, make sure you drink good, clean, fresh water. Um, yeah. So, um, so anyway, yeah, that's, uh,
21:23 that's what I've been up to. It's, um, you know, what a, what a good thing. What a wild thing. Oh, stonemason has to get an orange cowboy hat. Definitely recommended. Um, Hey, we got stewards of the earth coming from Uganda. That's epic, man. We are, we are worldwide, worldwide, worldwide. And, um, actually one thing I've been thinking in some marks in Santa Cruz is I've been thinking about if I do have enough, uh, beef production, I was thinking maybe I'd make some, uh, naturally farmed beef jerky. That way I could send it out to folks and, um,
22:00 you guys could get a bit of that and maybe help fundraise for the farm a bit. Besides just selling quarter cow to people locally, which I might also do. But, um, so we got a question back here. I'm scrolling back up just cause I was rambling for a long time telling you my story, but let's get back to your questions. Christoph also got a little bit of white mold in his LAB jar, scooped it out, added more sugar. No more gas was forming. So, um, he says, I was wondering how long you can use made solution. I have leaf solution in my spray bottle for a few days. It tasted more sour.
22:36 Does the labs eating the food make it less optimal? So, um, so those are two good questions. One is if you have diluted your solutions. So if I store them in concentrate form and I mix them together, like, so let's, uh, then I can, I can keep them stored in concentrated form. As soon as you dilute them into water and I, and I don't recommend you put LAB in a concentrate because LAB is so powerful and just keep it separate until you're going to dilute. Once you've diluted your sprays, they should be good for like two, three days. Um,
23:10 but the water and everything that's going to start interacting and they're going to spoil. And eventually after five days, depending, it all depends on temperature and, um, you know, pressure and all those things for how microbes grow. But, um, five days, it's going to start smelling bad and seven days it'll smell like, uh, poop. And you're definitely, your nose knows. So if you smell, if you've diluted a solution, you smell it and it smells okay. Might sell, smell sweet, fermented, good. If it smells like rotten eggs, puke, uh, doo-doo, any of those bad, those bad smells, vomit, uh,
23:49 those smells, I guess I already said puke, but, um, then, then pitch it. Right. But once you've diluted it, the shelf life, I would, you know, at three, four days, you're pushing it five days, seven, you know, you're pushing it, uh, just usually it's best to mix it for about 12 hours, then use it, uh, in dilution. So, um, and then if you have stuff growing on your LAB, most likely, uh, the, the KNF protectors, most likely you just need, when you're filtering process, just filter it through a t-shirt or something finer.
24:20 You probably have micro curds just floating to the surface and starting to grow, uh, molds. So, do use a finer filter. So, um, when you're filtering LAB, just make sure real fine filter. Like I use like a t-shirt, like this t-shirt I'm wearing and just filter it through this. It's going to take a little while to go through such a fine filter, but it'll get out all those micro curds. Um, and eyewitnesses saying, yeah, use the diluted solution within 36 hours. Um, like, um, rumor boy, hmm, that out. Cut and paste this stuff. Okay. So, um, okay. And then someone saying,
25:03 I learned about IPMO this past week from a friend. Can you tell me if there's a difference between collecting insects on my property versus using chicken feed super worms from the insect? Portion. Um, whatever you feed your IMOs, they're going to tune them to eat that material and or, uh, use that material. So, um, chitin is chitin. I'm pretty sure the world around, uh, if you look up chitin here, we'll go over to this side here and we'll look up chitin. Chitin is chitin. So if you are training your insects or your IMOs to eat chitin, uh, which usually is what you're, when you're using, um,
25:44 animal or insect frass, you're training it to eat chitin, which is a molecule. So when you're training them to eat chitin, um, they eat chitin. So once you train your microbes to eat this, then they will eat the bug wings. They'll eat the bug bodies. And it is, um, just like, you know, uh, you're having microbes eat sugar. Chitin is just kind of a, uh, sugar protein. It's a, it's a molecule type of structure that comes out. It's C8. It's Cho N. Cho N. John. Yeah. How's that? Cho N. That's what it is. So, you know, Master Cho, Master Cho, he's in chitin too.
26:30 Um, anyway, so, um, yeah, so, um, train, you know, IPMO is, uh, we've been talking about that for years. Um, and there's gelatinase, chitinase microbes. You can look those up. Um, very similar thing. You're just training your microbes to eat certain substances. And once you train them to eat that and you grow those, they will, that's what they'll eat. Um, nice straw hat. Okay. Built my, oh, big West built his first compost tea brewer yesterday. Almost finished. Need to drill holes in the PVC when it's done. Lots of little pipe cuts. Um, one thing I, I know you just finished building a, um,
27:12 compost tea brewer. Um, I'm just going to look up compost tea brewer here real quick and look for images of them. And I'm just going to quickly critique a few of them here just because, um, I, I'm that kind of guy. Um, so what I recommend is simple systems. So simple systems with just a bucket and this, where you just got a bubbler into a bucket, something like this, this bubbler, you just want to make sure is powerful enough to bubble it. Now, if you wanted to spend a bit more, this is a stainless steel one, I guess this is an air pump. And if this is an air pump,
27:50 I do not know why you would put it on the ground like that and not above your system, because if it ever backflows, it's going to flow right into your pump and ruin it. So I would never put your air pump below the water level. I would always put the air pump above, which I don't know if, let me turn this on so you can see where I'm going at, but this air pump should be above here. But having a thing like this, where it vortexes through, it's going to create spinning. And if you can spin it even better and look at this huge thing, uh, T labs, these guys, I, Luke is a good friend of mine.
28:24 He labs, he's in Arcata or our humble, like, uh, uh, Eureka Arcata right in that region. He has amazing stuff. He has amazing resources. T labs love Luke, Luke Besmer, man. What a fricking champ. Also, I like the simplicity of this type of system. Looks like they're just kind of bubbling air into a big ass tote. That sounds amazing. Um, what I, or, or, or something as complex as this, but as complex as this, you don't need, you just one vortex. Like my type of system, even two pipes. Why are you doing two pipes? Like you just need one. The more pipes you have,
29:03 the more room for contamination you have, the more things you have to clean, the more it's like, just put one pipe, like, um, yeah, like this type of thing, which is just one trash barrel type of thing. Like simple, keep it, uh, kiss it, right? Keep it super simple. Uh, even something like this looks fun, but it's like, man, how complex is that? And how the hell are you going to clean this? Like, how are you going to get a bottle brush up there and cleaning? Oh, this is T labs right here. This is their thing at T labs. They grow a huge pumpkin right outside here.
29:38 We did a K and F workshop here at T labs. That's why I can recognize the building. Freaking awesome. I love those guys. Um, but something like this, this looks way, I don't know what the heck this is way too overly complex. The compost T burr. What the heck are you doing? Uh, just keep it simple. Uh, and so, yeah. Um, so I, I don't know if you've already built something that's complex and whatever. These, these ones all look pretty darn simple, but all these twisting pipes and stuff, there's no need for that. Like, why are you twisting pipes? I don't, I don't know. I would,
30:14 I would just keep it as simple as possible like this, but I would make sure you're, again, I would put your pump above the thing. Why would you put it down there? And I would not use air stones, air stones. Like your, your, your aeration is going to happen where the surface is breaking. And I, and I would recommend doing vortex. So, um, if I, if I look on my channel real quick, let's see here. Let's just go here. Let's pause this. Let's go right here to this channel. I'm going to look at this and just go, uh, I'm going to search vortex because what, you know, not,
30:52 not that I want to like talk about this too much, but, but this is, this is as simple as my brewer is right here. So in this, this is a super simplified version of it running. So what this, this is an air intake and I'm running a really big air pump on this. And then the water, this is like one of those, um, water dispenser type of things you have. And the water comes down, the air enters right here, comes up this, it uses an airlift to recycle around. And then I just have a open, and I think this is one and a half inch pipe or, um, whatever it is. And a little adapter to fit on there.
31:28 And this thing, I don't know if we're going to be able to see it, but it vortexes and you're getting a vortex. So the oxygenation, you ever look at how powerful a tornado is versus a fart? Like a fart is just bubbling out versus a tornado sucking air and destroying buildings. And when you get, when you get the water to spin, it's pulling the oxygen into the water more than you ever could, but a bubbler, right? But I, I, I'm sorry to hate on bubblers, but I'm hating on bubblers because a vortex is actually what you want. And here I'm just trying to talk over myself, talking over myself,
32:05 but this here, we have this vortex. It's just coming at the top and angling. And I think you can see the vortex. If we look in here, you'll see it is a tornado happening. Yes. Look at that. And you see all the air getting sucked in through the center there. That's what you want. Like really as a, as a brewer, you're better off to brew a small tank. And look at that. It's just vortexing. It's sucking the oxygen into the water through this action. And that is like the best way, TM best way to, to do this. And this is a super simple setup. It just has the air, the water going around.
32:42 This is a small five gallon. You could, you know, you could scale this up, but having five gallons, you're going to be able to dilute this at least one to 10, one to a hundred. So you were able to make, you know, 500 gallons to, you know, 50 to 500 gallons from this. And the vortex is coming all the way through down here into the thing. So it's vortexing all the way down here and making that tornado. And that's, that's what I'd recommend doing. I know if you just built a compost deeper, you're like, Oh no, like, don't, don't worry. You probably did it. Okay. But this is like, I don't know.
33:13 That's the way I would recommend doing it. Um, and I do more complex type of systems here. Uh, does this one show it? I think this is just, I do have a how to video on it. And this is just the preview, but it shows how the whole thing was built and all the pieces that I used. Um, and then I have run, let's see, are there any other vortex? I, I actually, I actually run like a more sophisticated BMW type system, uh, which I don't know if I have a video of it. I might know. Again, I'm just, this vortex bird, it's just so simple. I, it's so simple. The whole BMW thing you can run better systems,
33:58 but I don't even think I have a video on that. Maybe it's proprietary. Um, let's see what's in this water playlist. This is, this is the BMW at, um, Goksung. So they built a huge compost T-burr. Um, the whole, the whole point is you want to oxygenate all this water and you want to run it every 15 minutes out of the hour. Um, and then it'll keep it oxygenated and dropping in it. But anyway, you can watch this. It's on my, uh, list here. Let's see if I go like that. What else do I have? Any of the other? No. So anyway, the, the other, the other design that I've made, this small thing,
34:39 I guess I have never put a video out on that, but it is pretty sweet. So anyway, I, I, if, if you're going to make a brewer, make it simple, make it simple, make it cleanable, make it so you can disassemble it, make it so you can, you know, keep it clean, run, brush through it. If you have biofilms growing in there, then you're just going to inoculate with bad biofilms each time. And you don't want that. So, um, so anyway, not to like, be like, Oh, I just, I, I, I, my advice, just, just giving it to you right now, but however you do it, whatever it's, it's probably better than nothing. So, um,
35:14 um, killing the roosters. Yeah. Farming is brutal. What's up? Post up media. Yo, yo, Hey man, it's been, it's been some time. Glad you're in the house. Start his arborist training, climbed all the way up for some jack fruits. Oh my gosh. Black sapote and mamays, a friend's farm. Nice to be listening live. Hey man, welcome. I've been missing you. I've been thinking about you. Uh, just like, man, it is good. It's good. Glad you're here. Hopefully we didn't gross too many people out. If you're vegan and you're tuned into the show, well, welcome. Um, really up. Yeah. Dispatching chickens, man. Uh,
35:51 do I have any of that? Is there any, any bird? Uh, let's see. I'm going to search my channel. Bird, man. Wonder. That was so wild. Um, bird. Man. I don't know if I have, I have that video somewhere now. Uh, no, I don't have any of that. That was so gnarly killing those chickens by just, uh, the, the specialized method. Um, okay. Coming down. It's coming down. Let's see here. Um, stick fist, please. Any KNF protocols for cleaning up contaminated soil? Okay. Um, so, uh,
36:37 lemongrass. Let me just say lemongrass. So if, so I just, we just treated the, um, the fleas on our dogs, our dogs. Um, they, they both had some fleas. Um, one dog we got from a friend and she came with fleas and she introduced fleas to my, my other princess dog. And, um, so we've been bathing her once a week with the, um, with soap. So we make our own following the badad recipes. And then we take lemongrass and boil the lemongrass down, uh, and add that. And so soap plus lemongrass, and we've been bathing them and it's gotten rid of all these fleas. So again, for my chickens,
37:16 anytime I have mites, I just cut lemongrass and I put it in where they, where they roost. And where they lay their laying box and the roosts and the mites go away. They don't like the lemongrass. So lemongrass against fleas, amazing. And the soap for the dogs, just washing them down. Um, I don't usually wash my dog because they don't smell bad. They just smell good. But to kill the fleas, we've been washing them and we've been doing it for about two months. And basically there's, there are zero fleas left. We still got to,
37:46 I'm going to do it for probably one more month and give them a weekly washing. And that way all the fleas hatch on them. Then we kill them because it doesn't kill the eggs or the larvae, but it does kill the adults. And if I keep continually killing the adults, then they won't be able to reproduce. So, um, so killing fleas, lemongrass, um, went to get seawater, ended up chasing my bucket lid. Oh man. Um, okay. Um, yeah. Dispatching the chickens. That was, uh, wild. Okay. Um, selling extra eggs. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Can't have jerky. Okay. So maybe the jerky,
38:31 we'll, we'll see. We'll see. I gotta, I gotta see. We're going to process a cow relatively soon. We'll see. I just got all the stuff. I just, I bought, um, I just bought an AC unit and a bunch of foam panels. So we're actually going to make a meat cooling room. And I bought a bone saw and a way better meat grinder. I just spent, just spent about a thousand dollars buying stuff. Cause I was like, tariffs are coming. I'm like, I better buy this stuff now. And just because I'm going, going full cattle, man. It's like never go full cattle. Whoops. Um, not full cattle.
39:04 I still got to do the grass and the microbe. Okay. Um, I found a bottle of unstabilized labs in the fridge. That was a year and a half old, smelled like beef soup paste, but gross. Yeah. Um, that's definitely going to be bad. Um, LAB unsaturated only lasts a few months at best in the fridge. A few weeks without a fridge. Um, yeah. Um, valve must be installed to ensure no backflow. Better that just put your air pump above. You'll never get backflow. Okay. Well, if you've never had it backflow, just you, you might be lucky. Um, I'm just saying check valves.
39:50 I just, the, the less complexity you have, you can put check valves and everything in your brewer, but the more complexity you have, the simpler parts just use gravity. Or, I mean, they call it gravity. I don't, I don't really, I'm not really a believer in gravity. I know you guys are going to be like, that's not great. It's electricity. I'm not full Terrence Howard, but he's onto some things. Um, yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Um, Brewers talk a lot about turbulence in the liquid. Um, so, so just, just to return back to that, uh, cause, uh, let's see. So this here, uh, just,
40:30 I'm going to go to this and, and, uh, we'll, we'll see it run here and turbulence in the bird. Yeah. You will have a fair amount of turbulence when it's running, but you're just running it to get the microbes going and oxygenate the water. And you're turning it off. I'm not running my brewer the entire time. I'm just running it enough to oxygenate it. So I run it for about an hour. Then I turn it off. I let it sit for about 12 hours and then I'll run it again for about 15 minutes before I use it. So yeah, there is so much turbulence in this.
41:00 It does make it hard for the microbes to grow while it's running, but the idea is not to run it. It's just to get it all really well mixed, get the microbes well distributed. And then I turn it off. So I'm not running it the entire time. And this type of vorticular action, when we get up close and we look at that vorticular action, you get that air, the water's so oxygenated. It's up to 15, 16%, which is about the, you know, the oxygen content of the air. And it's like, it is, that's, you know, so yeah, there is a lot of turbulence in this. Um, and then I have another brewer system where it's,
41:36 it accounts for that, but I, I, maybe I should make a video on that'd be fun. I haven't made an actual YouTube video for a long time. I've just been going live. Um, yeah. Yep. Yep. Okay. Um, so with all that, um, how much would you dilute an IMOT for a drench? Uh, one to 10, one to a hundred, somewhere in there depends on how, what it is depends on what you're trying to accomplish. Uh, but somewhere in there, uh, I would dilute it more for foliar application, but for a drench, um, because, because, because in a brewer like this, you're going to, you're going to make it so oxygenated.
42:20 You're going to grow out such, so much microbes, especially if you're adding maintenance solution to this and everything, you're going to make a super concentrate. If you put this out, pure concentrate, you're going to add too many microbes for an area. So it's better, a drench, you're probably better off, uh, to dilute it more. Diluting it one to a hundred is actually a lot. If you just dilute it one to 10, water it out and then water on top of that with a sprinkler or something, you're going to, it's going to be easier to do. You know, I'm talking like, Oh, dilute 500 gallons. Yeah.
42:51 500 gallons of water is like a ton, right? I mean, it's more than a ton, like, like 200 gallons of water, 275 gallons of water is like a ton, right? So two, 500 gallons, it would be two tons of water. I'm like, that's a ton. I mean, it's, you know, that's, that's two tons. So you got to be realistic on what you're doing. How did you cut holes in the bottle without cracking the hard plastic? Uh, I cut this hole with, um, with this tool right here. So, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, I don't know what you even call it. I'm just saying vibrating saw.
43:37 It's, it's, it's, it's a, it's one of these. I use the, um, I use the, um, uh, Ryobi model of this, but it's this, it's this vibrating thing. It's a, it's an oscillating tool is what it's called an oscillating tool. That's what I use to cut the top out. I just use this oscillating tool. It's just cut right through it, man. These things are awesome. Especially if you're a home renovator, you know, these are, these are what's where it's at. Um, what is in my cart? So, yeah, fixing my weed whacker. Um, yeah, anyway, that's, uh, an oscillating tool. That's what I used to cut it out.
44:15 And if you don't have one, I mean, you could just, you could potentially melt it, cut it, could just cut it with a torch. Um, I was going to drench banana persimmon tree in my garden bed. So, I, you know, so, so honestly, I would, I would, uh, I would dilute it one to 10. So take, you know, put that five gallons into a 50, get 55 gallon barrel. And then after that, then run a sprinkler and just to, just to, you know, get it all into the soil. But otherwise you're going to be, you know, I don't want to break your back, man. I know you're, you're getting older. So you got a child and stuff.
44:49 You can have your kid do it. That'd be a good way to do it. Um, Oh, okay. Um, dear apophysis is the man on magnesium magnetism. Oh, magnetism. Yeah. I've, I've been, I've been a subscriber of the fat tattooed monkey, also known as Ken for a long time. That dude's pretty awesome. Um, he's also super arrogant. I love, I love his, he's like, I've read more books than you ever saw in your life. It's like, mm-hmm. Okay, Ken. Great. Um, he's boiled water, big ass, softened everything. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, we got some good ideas here.
45:33 Super saturation with FPJ is so hard to see the circle with metals. Oh, oh, I'm not sure what you're talking about here, but, um, oh, removing ticks. Yeah. Okay. I don't have ticks. I don't have ticks on my dogs, but, um, yeah. Okay. Well, anyway, uh, it is getting late. I can't believe we spent this much time doing this. Let's get into the little bit of this here. Nettle FPJ. If you can't see, uh, super saturated, it should be floating on the top. Super saturation video, but, um, let's get into this. We're at one 22.
46:19 So we had just entered master Lee's house. All right. So we were cruising. We're at his farm. We saw his, or, so-called organic side of his field. Look at his insect traps out there. He's trapping insects. Cool. Um, and this was his so-called organic side, which I said, what the heck does he even mean by that? And, um, we want, we went out to the conventional field. We were at his naturally farming thing. We're going, and then we entered his house. All right. And we went into his special OHN room and we were looking at this. So that's where we ended up. Um, and you know, so,
47:00 so when they say put vinyl over the top, he's using clay jars and then he's putting plastic over to prevent the evaporation. So he's doing his, you know, I use half gallon jars. He's using what this looks like a gallon and a half clay vessel. So he's making tons of K and F medicine each time. And he puts this, uh, plastic. Can you see that? The plastic. Look at that. He's even pointing at it. That plastic he puts over the top and then rubber bands that around the lid before then he puts the clay lid on top. And so that's how he's keeping the alcohol in.
47:34 Cause as soon as you've added the alcohol, it'll start evaporating, but he's preventing it this way. So let's, let's check out. What is he up to? Lactic acid bacterium. I started yesterday. So he's also making LAB. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. So, Angelica is two times. Yeah? You noticed that? Right. Wow. I can't believe Cecily cured, or not cured, but put her, her,
48:10 her diabetes into remission with Lactic acid bacteria. That's amazing. Um. So one, one, one, but Angelica is two. But, but I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday.
48:44 I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. I started yesterday. So you have to have five times each container. Because every time you make the final product, you have to put it in and put it in and put it in. Then five times you have to do that. So you can not do everything today. So when you use it, then you can mix all five together. That's right. That's right. No. No. No. No. No. No. Supercut. So we're just chilling in his living room.
49:34 And this is, I tell you, like, you know, you can go like, listen to a lecture, listen to the things, but it's like when we're kicking it, just like casually sitting around group of like really tuned in natural farmers and we're asking Master Cho direct questions or he's just talking story, just letting them kind of go and ramble. Man, does he drop some knowledge. So here I think Joe ends up asking him about how to grow taro and how to do the leaf solution. So if you are growing any type of leafy thing and harvesting leaves, this is, this is for you, this section. So. Come on this way.
50:13 Then at that time you spray type two. So type two is what I call chubby solution. It's the leaf growth solution. And so Master Cho will call it type two, but it's to me type two, you know, it's like leaf growth chubby solution is what you're going to spray. And so he's asking him about taro and cause he's, he's harvesting taro leaf to make luau, just classic like Hawaiian thing to do. So, um, try and explain. Yeah. So Master Cho just chilling on the couch, just a drop in knowledge.
50:59 What an amazing dude. I think type one diabetes is from, uh, type two is the kind you get from, um, uh, uh, stressing yourself out by eating too much sugar. So one week before you're going to treat with, uh, what I call skinny solution or, um, yeah. Yeah. And so skinny solution one week before, and then two days before you treat it with chubby solution.
51:45 10 days. Oh, yeah. So you're gonna have to treat it with chubby solution. Oh, yeah. So if you give type two, then it's bigger. And then one week before type three. Oh, yeah. So if you give type two, then it's bigger. And then one week before type three. Oh, yeah. Then you're going to treat it with chubby solution. Okay. If you do so, there are volume, there are weight, uh, then you treat your belly. All three will go up. Normally when we cut it, it's smaller. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You got to treat right after that. You cut. When it's, you should come out. Then you treat type two.
52:16 You treat before you harvest. Type two. Okay. So let's, uh, let's correct and make sure we got all this clear. So on the taro plant, when it's, when the leaf is first emerging, you're going to give it type two. When that leaf is emerging, new buds coming out, new leaf coming out, type two. And then one week before you harvest, you would do, uh, skinny type three. So let's, let's clarify a little bit here. Do you have that up? Oh, okay. So. Pull this up. Let's see. So just to bring this over here and look at this.
53:01 So you would, he's saying right when the leaf is emerging, you'd use the leaf formula solution. So food, cleanser, medicine, structure, fuel, protectors, this one here, and then right a week before you're harvesting, you're going to use what I call the fruit solution or what Master Cho calls type three, which is going to be food, cleanser, medicine, structure, fuel, minerals, and reproduction. And so if you're doing it and you're oscillating these two, so doing this a week before harvest and doing this right as it emerges, when a new leaf's coming out, you will be providing
53:33 enough nutrition to the plant that you probably will have, uh, better yields. I'll just say that. Yeah. And to clarify, not right when you cut each type two, but when the- Dasheen, yeah. Dasheen, Japanese, uh, they also got what, what IMO? I don't know. Is it what IMO? Yeah, I think so. Dasheen. Good tarot. That's the new one, too. That's the new one, too. That's the new one. That's the new one. That's the new one. That's the new one. That's the new one. That's the new one. Oh, you can be bored of the shoot, though. When it's before it ungrows, that's when you're at the same time.
54:08 So then, so then like two days after cut, maybe, like when it's just peeping? That's the new one. That's the new one. You can go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead
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