Thrips Cure, Soil Compaction Tests, Natural vs Conventional Fields

1:00 Good before midnight. Good afternoon. You know, whatever time it is, whenever you're watching this, or if you're here live, even better. Welcome to the Korean Natural Farming Podcast, brought to you by the Pure KNF Foundation. Going over the works of Master Han Kyu Cho and his magic that he's brought to the world of consolidating natural farming knowledge from all over the world, putting it into a cohesive, understandable, practical way to regenerate the earth and bring yourself, plus your plants, plus your animals to life. Enjoy the fruits of labor and be a better person altogether.

1:42 So thanks everyone for being here. Thanks for coming in from wherever you are. We got an hour. Ask any questions you want to me live here, YouTube. And after that, or if there's no questions, we will get into going through Master Cho's work. And we are currently looking at Muju and at Master Li's place, checking out his soil techniques he was using, his IMO, his cover cropping, his rye field. But then we went in across the street and checked out the commercial apple orchard and the differences between those. So, yeah, 4 p.m., man. Someone's in the afternoon in the Southern Hemisphere. Yo, yo.

2:27 Cool. Good to know. And good to see everybody gather and get Christoph from Belgium. Yo, what's up, Bridger and Winter Bear. Yes. Represent. Put those shirts out there. Get the good messages to the good people. Let them broadcast the good word, I guess. I don't know. Call it. Cecily, what's up, Western Australia. Hey, Cecily. Hey. Welcome. Rainbow Possum Farm in Seattle. Spano coming in from New York City. And, uh, Sao. Cool. Good to... I should learn some Portuguese. I say that every time. Ola, I think. I don't know. It's probably not Ola. Ola. Ola is life in Hawaiian.

3:11 So, uh, before we get into any of the rest of the stuff and all those good things, let's start with a tiny bit of higher wisdom. Just a microscopic amount. And, uh, let's do that. Because without higher wisdom, we're just, uh... We're just, uh, spinning our wheels. So let's, uh, let's get into a bit of higher wisdom. See what we got in store for today. Today, today, today. Is the power of the great. False power and false greatness can be seen all around us in the world.

3:58 Through egotistical and aggressive manipulations, many people obtain a temporary position of influence. The I Ching teaches us a different way of acquiring and using power. One that leads to true greatness and enduring influence. The way of the sage unites power with modesty, justice, gentleness, and equanimity. The image of Ta Chuang indicates that you have increased your power now by purifying your thoughts and actions.

4:46 Through contemplation of the higher principles, you have begun to open doors for yourself. Through alignment with what is true and good, you gain insight into situations and the power to resolve them in your favor. But it is important to remember that it's the sage that is the source of your power. Oh, actually, the source of your strength. Your strength, not your power. Your power is maybe yours, but your strength. If your ego takes over and wields the power that is at hand, misfortune will be great.

5:32 The I Ching counsels us not to misuse our strength by judging, condemning, punishing, manipulating, or dismissing others. It advises reticence in speech. And action. More often than not, the truly superior person relies on stillness and non-action. Allowing the inner truth to penetrate gently and to the heart of the difficulties. The I Ching also cautions us to wait patiently for the appropriate time for speech or action.

6:18 Power can make us eager, but eagerness unbalances and leads us into trouble. By listening carefully and patiently to the sage, we know when to move ahead, when to wait, and when to retreat. In the end, true greatness only comes to those whom strength and proper principles are firmly united. If you follow the sage and persevere steadfast in what is correct, you will inherit the power of the great. So, yeah.

7:06 YouTube, shadow bands, all these good things. Welcome, Wes. Good to see you. Stonemason in the house. Sending guys love from Indiana. All right. We got a global love thing. If everyone just, like, thinks of love real quick, just think of it. We're connecting some sort of, like, geometric thing from each of us all over the world, sending it through the earth, or, you know, and then everyone's being connected by our vibes. So vibe up, yo. Love. Send Master Chose Love. Just think of all those trillions of microbes that you're interacting with. Trillions and billions, like, billions of trillions.

7:49 Trillions and trillions and trillions. You know, if you've ever seen the billions rap. Of all those microbes and all those things. And, like, if you're on this part of the earth, and then someone else is over here, and we're, like, inoculating, it's now sending, like, signals through. Like, I'm over here. Cecily's over there. And it's, like, microbes going through the earth and back, and all this, like, resonance that we're creating. Just us. This small group of great people harnessing the power of the great, because it's not really up to us, right? It's like we realize, you know,

8:25 you're connected with the earth, the heavens, the microbes, the spirits, the Holy Spirit, you know, all of it. And it's like, we're making, we're making the earth a better place. Yeah, we got another Brazilian in the house. You guys got to link up and create the, create the Brazilian thing, yeah. Rasta man vibrations. I don't know if we're, you know, how many of you are Rastas? Raise your hand if you're a Rasta. I don't know. I, see, Rastas eat Aital, and, like, I'm too, I'm, I like hamburgers too much to be a Rasta. I just, I just can't do that. Um, but, you know, also, also,

9:08 I like to comb my hair, even though I, you know, I don't, I don't cut it. So I guess maybe I got the Rasta bit of it there, but, dreadlocks, uh, not, not for me. I like to comb it. Braids. I, can you be a Rasta without dreads? I don't know. I, probably, right? Uh, so anyway, yeah, so, Earth, because she, earthworks in the house, yeah, we got, we got a whole crew of good people doing good things. So yeah, imagine this, like, the power of the great. We are, like, literally, creating a great power around the earth, and, like, creating portals of good energy coming out, regeneration,

9:41 these pockets of regeneration that will spread all over the whole earth. Imagine. Then the climate change, people won't have anything to complain about once we are all doing natural farming. It'll just be like, wow, everything's better. The rainforest is coming back. Species diversity, the insects, they're not, they're not pestilence. The rains came back. The deserts are receding, you know, like, earth in abundance, and there's fruit everywhere, and there's, there's food and everything, right? We're, we're changing power of the great by aligning with the higher beings, with the, you know,

10:16 master Cho, the sage, and it's the, the sage is the source of our strength, right? It's not like each of us had this, like, we got to do it. It's like, we're just aligning ourselves with this natural state of abundance and being and goodness, right? So to bring the I Ching, like, into your whole thing of like, you're doing it, we're doing it together. And you don't even have to believe, man. It's just real. It's true. No faith required. Oh, but if you believe it's even better, I like to sometimes convince myself of this. When I'm here in the office hours,

10:50 I get in this like real inspirational mode. Then I go back and I'm like, oh, everything's fucked. Oh, no, no, it's not. It's good. It's all, it's all exactly how it's supposed to be. Exactly how it's supposed to be. In those. Yeah. Preach. Okay. But anyway, in this moment of being here, it's, it's good. I feel, you know, I feel like every Sunday showing up, doing the dedication, master show over my shoulder, getting inspired by the I Ching, got flat Eric back there, you know, pure KNF, you know, I feel like, feel empowered. And I hope you folks feel empowered too. So, uh,

11:27 small little side story. I went over, went back to the Hubble's place last, uh, yesterday, uh, and we did round two. So, uh, last week, if you, you may remember that we, uh, we quartered a cow. So we took a cow, we skinned it, we quartered it, and we put it in there. It's nice refrigerator, freezer thing that he built. Um, it's actually an AC unit that he is using a cool bot with to lower the temperature. And he just used some panels and built his own little showroom. And yesterday was part two of taking it and cutting it into nice pieces of meat and nice, uh, steaks. And I learned a lot.

12:05 They're, they're actually really good, uh, butchers and stuff. And I was, it was funny. My wife and I were like, man, it was so fun yesterday. And what is it? It's like, we're, we're working hard all day, getting back aches, like leaning over, cutting, uh, you know, uh, you know, making it clean and everything. And, um, so much fun. And it's like, if you've never done that, I highly recommend you go do that. If you eat meat and you've never processed your own animal, find some place where you can go and be part of the process. You will learn so much about it.

12:37 You'll have such a higher appreciation for it, of doing it. Um, and understanding it. It's like, I can't even imagine if you were, if I was a meat eater and I wasn't involved in the process of, um, that because it's like, you gotta, you know, and if, and if you're, if you're not into meat and stuff and you're like, you know, you're, you're the I tall rust doing the no salt diet and stuff, you know, and we all, it takes all of us, all the diversity of everybody to get along. Um, so no, no, uh, no hard feelings on that. But if you are eating meat, definitely find somebody,

13:13 a small rancher site where you can get, be part of that process. It will, it will enliven your spirit to be like part of it because it's real, it's visceral. And, um, I've done it a few times, but this was like the most professional planning thing ever. Like they're set up so sweet. Uh, they had this, uh, you know, bandsaw thing to just make just perfect stakes. And I'm like, usually, usually I'm like, what is this? And I'm like, it's meat. Versus there's is like T bones and like porter houses and like, you know, flank steak and skirt steaks and all these things that I usually would just like,

13:51 you know, butcher it. And I don't even take the silver skin off and you're eating it. You're like, what the hell is this? And it's like, you know, so I learned a ton and it was good. Um, and, uh, yeah. Yeah. So getting, getting into your, yeah. Yeah. Really, you're really getting, getting down to, to be part of the process. It'll teach you a whole lot. And if you have kids, bring the kids into those processes and get, you know, cause it's all about integrated animal farming. But the reason I got on that was I also, um, also brought my shotgun over to their place, to their ranch. And, uh,

14:30 after having a great day doing all that, getting a whole farm tour, going, seeing the cows, everything they got going on. So awesome. So awesome. I also showed Liz, how to shoot a shotgun. She had, she'd never shot a shotgun before. And she was thinking about getting like a 20 gauge or yeah, 20 gauge. And I was like, I brought over my 12 gauge and I'm like, this is what you need right here. Because if you're going to do home defense or, or empowerment, or, you know, like, it's just like, you, you, you can, you can go out and you could hunt with a 22 and be fine. You know, you could,

15:03 but if you really want to use like, you know, a 30 out six or like a 30 eight or something, that's going to like, you know, do the job properly. And I'm like, look, if you're going to do home defense, you're going to need this 12 gauge, I know you want to go with a 20, or maybe you think a 20 would be less, you know, less powerful. I'm like, just get the 12, shoot it from the hip, aim well, and just crank that sucker. And just, you know, like, first off, just racking a shotgun. Like, so like, let me, let me give you a little context here. Cause like, here I am just like, you know,

15:37 getting into my passion for this, but it's like, they live way out in the country, like way out. Like let's, you know, they live way, like it would take the cops probably 30 minutes to get to where they are. Even if they, if they could respond, it would take 30. They're on their own, you know, they're way out in the country and there's no neighbors nearby. There's two neighbors nearby. And like, they've had some like crackhead method people open their gate and they have security cameras and, and, and a buzzer and all this stuff, like security stuff to prevent this,

16:12 but they've already had like two or three break-ins and they already got their, a lot of their tools stolen and stuff. And so it's like, they're vulnerable. And Liz, you know, I don't know. She's probably 50 plus, uh, you know, between your fifties and sixties. I don't, I don't know. Uh, maybe, maybe even like, maybe higher than 60, but the sweet, sweetest lady you've ever met. And like a hippie to the, to the core, right? Like she loves life and loves everything. But I'm like, look, this is about empowerment. This is about, um, taking self responsibility. This is about like,

16:50 if you just rack a shotgun and someone hears that shit, they're going to think twice about moving forward or doing anything or anything. And it's not like you have to use, like, it's like, it says, uh, the, the, the classic thing I always talk about is it's better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war. And just always, you know, carry a big stick, but don't use it and know, but know how to use it. And right. And, and, and have that ability. So it was always, it was, it was fun to, you know, as, as Americans, I, you know,

17:23 the rest of you guys are on the world that can't own firearms. I, I, my heart pities you because you're at the vulnerability of whoever has the firearm and is better trained with it and is, is better immediately has the advantage in a situation. And if you are a benevolent person and you have that advantage, then you can set the stage for peace. If you don't have that advantage and someone else does, you are at their mercy of, they better, you better hope they're benevolent and they have your best interests in mind because you do not have control of the situation. And it's just like,

17:59 in so many ways, it's like, so, so I, I enjoyed bringing my shotgun and having her just take a shot and just like, she was so apprehensive about it because, you know, people are like, Oh, it's going to kick. It's going to hurt. It's going to, it's like, no, it doesn't really, I mean, it did. She was holding it a little weird and did hit the trigger guard did hit her finger and she does have some arthritis. So it was like, but I'm like with a better grip, with better training, you know, and she fired the thing probably four times. And by the fourth time she was smiling, she was like, yeah,

18:29 I think I can do this. This is empowering. And it's like, yeah, my shoulder, I'm like, you can load a bunch in, you can just boom, boom, boom. You know, like it, and it's, it's, it's, it's, there's nothing more empowering as an American than to exercise your first, second, third, fourth, fifth, and sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, 10th, 15th. I don't know how many amendments there are, but exercising our, our God given rights, right? They're not even, they're not even law, like things given to us by people. It's like enshrined by giving God given rights, their rights. They're not privileges.

19:02 They're rights given to us by God and enshrined in our constitution of who we are as people. We were like smart enough to be like, look, God wants us to own guns. He wants us to have control of the situation and be benevolent, good leaders and good people. So we can be stewards and not just like getting guns and blasting each other, but like being powerful and being like well-armed to be like, yes, we, we can love each other. We can be super dangerous and, and, and choose to love. And that's, that's what God wants for us. Right. Wants us to be powerful, good, benevolent, great people.

19:40 And we enshrine that. And so anytime I get to empower someone to be like, Hey, check this out, you can purchase this for like 250 bucks. You can go down. You do have to get like a hunting permit. And it's weird. The hoist, the most draconian place in America for this, but you can go get this. And for like 12 bucks, you can get 25 birdshot rounds. And so it's like, you, you, you know, or you could get slugs. Slugs are going to be a bit more kick. I didn't tell her that I let her shoot birdshot, you know, but you know, you got to start somewhere and I should have brought some balloons and we

20:11 should have popped the balloons and it would have been even more fun. But no anyway, but we had fun. And, um, so I don't know. I don't know where I was going with that besides, that, um, being an empowered farmer, being with the land, being, you know, the power of the great, taking these, you know, being in alignment with what God wants. God wants you to have guns, but not to like, you know, not to use them for violence, but you use them for peace. These are tools, right? It's like, imagine you had a, a society that was like, you can't have a shovel because shovels, you might hit each other.

20:43 And it's like, the hell man. Like it's a tool. It is a tool, you know? And, and, and if you don't have a shovel and someone else has a shovel, you're at the mercy of the shovel person, right? It's like, come on. Like the good people should have more shovels. In this case, guns, right? The good people should have more guns. If we give up our, like gun rights, only like gun laws only take guns from law abiding people. And you're usually not worried about law abiding people, right? Like they make a law for the guns. The people that don't listen to the laws anyway,

21:17 the people that are going to be dangerous with guns, not that they, they're not going to listen. They're going to have more guns. It's like, so gun laws, what the heck? They're so ridiculous. It's like, they only affect the good people that are going to listen, to the laws anyway. And those are the people you want to have more guns. So take the gun laws away. You know, anyway, anyway, I could go on a whole tangent. This, this show, I could make a whole YouTube channel just about guns. Cause you know, they're so empowering and being an American, like being a responsible farmer,

21:49 I guess that's what this show is about, right? It's about taking natural farming, the higher power, taking these things. But I believe, you know, if you're an American, it's your God given right. And, and duty to, uh, to arm yourself and be proficient and to let, it's just like having a tool on your farm. Like, and you, you should be proficient with your tool. You should be well-trained. You should be safe. That's what I always, I started out in the beginning thing. I was like, look, safety is number one. Number one. Like, I'm like, look, I'm going to open this and look in the breach.

22:20 There's no, there's nothing, there's no ammo in this thing. Look in the breach. I'm like, I'm going to hand it to you. I want you to open the breach and verify there's nothing in there. And we're going to, you know, we're going to make sure, even though you just saw me do it, I hand it to you. You must check. Like anytime a weapon gets handed to you, you check that it's safe. You know, you just safety. Number one, number one, right. And all those things. So, um, anyhow, let's, let's, uh, let's move on. I could, cause I could talk about this the entire time. And then it's like,

22:49 what are we really farming? Or are we, well, we're cultivating freedom. We are, you know, but, but reticence, right. Reticence speech. Uh, no, but don't tell, right. Just be quiet. Anyway. Okay. So, uh, I get too excited talking about, um, empowering people with self-defense. Um, read in self-defense. It goes over the gun rules. Everyone should know. Okay. Yeah. If there's a good book and a good resource, put that out there. Cause I'd love to get that to Liz. And when I go and empower people to like exercise their, you know, their, their, their, their firearms, !

23:46 favorite things in the world is, is giving, or is teaching women how to use firearms because, you know, like, like men tend to be stronger. And so it's like you, if you have a firearm and you're a proficient as a woman, you are stronger than any man out there. Like you, you, you know, it is the most, even in, evens the playing field so much that if a man, like, to me, there's nothing more empowering than having women be proficient with firearms. It's like women, you know, like, I don't know. I don't know if you can tell the joy it brings me, but like having women be like, you know, I mean,

24:25 I ain't scared of no man. It's like, yes, yes. Like women, like women, like a woman with this proficient with a shot, like a shotgun, a rifle, a pistol, you know? Oh, like, Oh, I don't know. So, so Cheryl, you know, being a woman that's proficient, like there's like, you, you talk about women empowerment and like women, like giving women power. It's like, hell yeah. Be proficient with that firearm. Some man tell you, you know, it's like, you know, you have to come at peace, you know, that the, it's like, man, like nothing, nothing more, uh, empowering to me at least, you know,

25:05 and it's your God given right. Anyway, I could go on and on and on. Let's just, let's just, let's call it there. Okay. Thanks. Thanks. And, uh, so, uh, okay. We got a question here about, um, Thrip's care. Let's Thrip's cure. Cure. Um, and we did, um, I don't even have it around here anymore. It's actually, it's on the shelf behind me. I don't know if you can see that shelf, this shelf right here. Let's, uh, let's go like this here. Yes. See this shelf here. Oh, yeah. The, the Jadam book is here right there. I actually have like a Japanese, a Korean, English edition.

25:45 I have all three of those ones. I think there's a Spanish one. I don't have that one, but, um, but he talks about Thrip's, uh, you know, and so if you're, if you're worried about Thrip's, like first off, Thrip's make your plant healthier, but let's, uh, let's just, let's, let's hang out together here and let's look up. Let's see here. Let's go open a tab and go look up Thrip's to start. What the heck are Thrip's? So, and my favorite source of somewhat information is, uh, wiki, wiki, wadia. Um, so, are minute, mostly one, one millimeter or long or less slender insects with fringed wings,

26:32 unique asymmetrical mouth parts. There are 7,700 species. So most likely with that many species, they're very, um, particular to certain things. things of what they're trying to do. Uh, you know, you don't have this many species of something if they are not beneficial in some way and very specialized for what they're coming in. So if you're having problems with these and you're having like too many thrips come in, um, you probably are doing something where you're creating an environment for them and they're trying to janetize something for you. Um, they fly only weekly.

27:15 So they're trying to just go to small areas and clean something up for you. So if you are having a whole bunch of thrips, most likely your plant is sick. Okay. I mean, I'm not saying that they can't just come in and like ruin you for no reason, but with this many species, they're probably specialized to come in to do specific things. So let's look at these guys. Look at them. They look coordinate, kind of like termites eating, got a big sack. They look a lot like termites. They're probably plant eating termites. Uh, interesting. Um, and then let's see, it says, it says in the right conditions,

27:51 such as greenhouses, why? Because you're probably lacking airflow in a greenhouse and you're getting sickness in there. Um, invasive species can exponentially increase in population size and forge large swarms, but most likely what's wrong is you're probably over nitrogen in your stuff and, or there's some mineral deficiency. So again, the K and F maintenance solution and, or following any of the formulas we have out there, um, and getting them, um, and then a lack of natural predators coupled with the ability to reproduce asexually. Oh, so they are self-sufficient on there,

28:30 making them destructive to crops. And let me just quantify this, making them destructive to malnourished crops. I'll just add that in. Maybe, let's see, can we edit the Wikipedia? Let's, can I do that? Can I edit this and say, like, I'm going to put it in here. Oh, let's see. Okay. And just start editing. And let's say where I guarantee it's going to get reverted, but, uh, uh, destructive to, let's just put malnourished crops. Crops. And let's edit that. And I know it's going to get reverted. I might get banned, but let's publish these changes. All right. So, so check it out. It is now. Yeah.

29:16 Making them destructive to malnourished crops. Boom. I fixed the Wikipedia. Watch. It's going to get reverted. You know, someone that doesn't know, they're going to be like, but, but now it's official. It is malnourished crops. What's up? We should just edit Wikipedia live each time. Maybe I should make a channel about just editing Wikipedia to fix it. Um, so their identification to speak. I, I'm kind of nervous right now, actually. I made that. And I know it's going to get reverted and I might get banned. Oh no. He made it too scientifically true. Where? You didn't, uh,

29:50 you didn't cite that source. It's like, you know, come on. Okay. Anyway, um, we'll see, but now it's, now it's correct. Malnourished crops. All right. Um, I should just fix Wikipedia each time. I should just get a one day. Maybe I'll get a job professionally editing this thing. Um, let's see here. Going down morphology. Uh huh. Uh huh. Evolution. Oh, look at these things evolving. It's just like my Pokemon. One G. Okay. So if you're having, uh, let's see what coffee tree rolled up by, okay. So they're rolling your leaves. Look at that. But most likely this, you know,

30:31 some pests got to be out there, right? But if it, if they're infecting everything, look, there's already bug bites here. There's this, this thing already looks, something else is wrong here, right? When they're eating brand new leaves coming out, is usually a mineral deficiency of some sort. So seawater, calcium, right? Minerals, uh, reproduction. I mean, I call it reproduction. I really should call it the transporter or the bus, but calcium. Uh, you won't have that. You won't have that mineralization type of problem. Damage to plants. Let's see here. Uh, damage crops, onions, potatoes,

31:06 tobacco, cotton. Um, let's see. Social behavior. They have social behavior. I'm not going to read that. Oh, there are flanthrips that feed on fungi, right? So they're going to balance the fungi out for you. This is, this is great. Anal secretions. Those are, yeah. Mm-hmm. Yep. Anal secretions. All the best animals have anal secretions. Um, let's see. Males fight by flicking their rivals away with their abdomen. Might kill them with their far stall teeth. Small males may sneak into mate while the larger males are busy fighting. Smart guys. They're like, dude, those dudes are, get some. Cool. Um,

31:51 males again are polymorphic with large and small forms. Probably also compete for mates and strategy. Yeah. So these, these are super adaptable, um, cleaners. And so if you're having a lot of thrips messing with your stuff, most likely it's a nutritional, um, um, deficiency. And I would come in instead of trying to murder them, which I mean, you could, uh, and I would recommend the herbal smoker, man. We cover that, um, in, uh, office hours when we were going over the Madadge, but basically just take a bunch of herbs, put them in a, and kind of create like a smoker,

32:29 put them in a thing and make a little fire and put some herbs above and just like smoke out your greenhouse with, uh, you know, probably tobacco or something. I don't know what, you know, we, we, we went over it. I can't remember exactly what it is, but, but the ultimate problem when you have thrips is a nutritional deficiency because they're, they're, they're with all this information here. It's like they are here to, you know, they, they reproduce asexually. Even it's like, they're not, they're there just to help you. Yeah. Taking care of the pests in your lungs, man, with the herbal smoke.

33:05 Um, let's see here. So thrips cure the cure, the cure, is there a cure? The cure is, uh, yeah. If you really want to get rid of them, fix your plants, fix your main problem, go to the roots. It's probably, you probably got weak roots, man. I'm not going to lie. You probably got weak roots. So calcium phosphate helps with that, but also, you know, it's, oh man, my computer was going to restart and then it, the terminal started. So all my tabs and everything got closed. But if you go to the book, you go to the pure KNF recipe book, you will see there's a recipe and it just, man,

33:38 just follow the recipes, man. Um, yeah. Um, teaching drums to women. Yeah. I love, I mean, it doesn't matter what sex you are. You should learn, you should learn guns and drums, all the good things. It doesn't matter. Um, I love good running, big type running. Hmm. Run. I don't run. I, uh, I jog or I saunter or I move with purpose, but man, running, running. I can't, I used to run when I was a kid. Total my knees. They are total demand. Running is too hard, but moving with purpose, jogging, jogging. I don't know how you pronounce it. Yogging. It's a new fad. Anyway, um,

34:24 uh, beneficial. Yeah. And if you have beneficials, man, uh, bugs will stay in balance. If they are, um, you have the right environment, they'll stay in balance. Um, yeah. And if, uh, thrips, uh, spider there, uh, you know, they also just while, while I'm here, may as well pump it. You know, if you become a member of the pure can of foundation, uh, under, you know, some of the membership benefits here, let me sign in here. Um, but if you're worried about pests and that kind of stuff, uh, man, listening to, um, Yarrow and then, um, Earl and Spencer, Spencer and Earl, man, they, um,

35:10 they threw down so hard. It's like, so, so under, you know, once you're a member, you get access to this, you can check out all the past meetings. Um, and where's the monthly meetings here, check out the monthly meetings. And man, I swear some of the, you know, uh, see, there's so many pages. There's five pages. Now you have to go way back to hear these guys. We've been putting out so much good content. Oh, also listening, um, listening to Reverend Logan, our documentary with him. So amazing. Evan Sharp. He talks about pests, how he controlled these things. And most,

35:43 most of these guys talking about the pests are, um, are cannabis guys because they're growing in such an, um, you know, usually doing a more artificial scenario and you're over, you know, you're, you're putting so many nutrients into the plants. You're creating imbalances. But these guys, man, Yarrow talks about his patent, his pest issues, you know, from being burdened with chemical formulas and, uh, sky high electric bills and disease ridden plants to watching the entire farm transition to a highly functional ecosystem. Like what else? I mean, you know, like, look at that. Like,

36:19 how can you not read this line and be like, I want to be like Yarrow and listen to his story. You know, he tells you how he did it and like, look at his sunflower. I mean, it's Yarrow, amazing dude. And then also the Royal Flesh Farms, listening to, uh, Spencer and Earl, these guys, like, look at how happy these dudes are. This rainbow falls back there. Oh, but yeah, listening to these guys and like hearing them and hydroponics indoor for about two years. And we're just about to move into outdoor, but we know we wanted to, you know, get into soil. Uh, you know,

36:58 I was really wanting to go to this organic approach. And so I'm listening to this podcast. I'm just trying to just learn as much as I can. And Chris Trump is just talking and I'm just like, wow, I love everything he's talking about. And then at the end of the podcast, he's like, um, I actually have a class. I, I randomly live in Boise and, uh, actually even doing the class in two weeks. So, you know, me and Earl scrounged up some money and went right into it and went, went, went feet first. And, and, uh, as, as we learn more and more, we just wanted to keep going.

37:31 And that's why we went to the class with you in California. And then really loved coming out in Hawaii. We really wanted to learn about the pigs. Um, that was one of our main focus going on. Kind of fill in the gap on what Spencer was talking about there with the hydroponic. Uh, we were entering our third year of an indoor cannabis hydroponic grow. And we were running the gauntlet of different pests and illnesses. The plants can pick up along the way to the point where we were almost to the point that we were thinking about just, you know,

38:05 scrapping the whole thing and starting all over again and losing all of our genetics. Um, so really there was a quest to try and find a way to get plant health. Um, uh, we made it our number one goal and we ended up, like Spencer said, we ended up on falling head first into the natural farming and seeing, learning about, you know, Drake's videos and Chris Trump's videos. And, uh, and it, it turned out that's exactly what our plants needed. And here we are six years later and we, we don't do anything conventionally like we used to. It's all, it's all natural regenerative techniques. So yeah,

38:46 you can get the full interview for members, right? Yeah. Cool. Some incentives. Gotta, gotta put some things out there, but, uh, yeah. Uh, Thomas Dickstra, I've never heard of him. Heard of Dickstra's algorithm though. It's a great, uh, uh, um, let's see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so anyway, yeah, there's, if you read the chat, man, people got all these solutions, but literally it's, it's like, what is it? It's, it's like frequency getting out there, putting the food that they need to lower the stress and health of the plant. And the pests go away. I mean,

39:27 you can listen to this whole interview with Spencer and Earl and they'll tell you it's like, it's not like the bugs went away. They still had bugs, but they didn't have pests. They didn't have these, these like they were in balance and they weren't killing their plants and they were just kicking butt. So, um, yeah. And if you have a balanced ecosystem, you're not trying to kill, then you'll get the predators and you'll get the beneficial insects that colonize your area and keep these things in check and keep populations. You know, it's all balanced. It's, it's like,

39:58 you'll hear it time and time and time again of like, you know, it is, you know, you feed your plants and, and can F is like the plant extracts. You know, you can do it at home. You put it on, you feed them the right, right, right amount, right frequency, right thing, you know, and it's just, they absorb it. They're like, that's exactly what I needed. And, you know, calcium, calcium phosphate minerals, uh, you know, food. I, but I make it all, all in the language of food, cleanser, medicine, structure, reproduction, um, all the things we know we need fuel,

40:31 all these things you need in your daily life. It's like name the things the same way and put them out there. Hey, thank you. Woo. Yeah. Woo. Woo. Woo. Super chats. Um, yeah. Uh, plant pests aren't on, yeah, all these things, man, there, it's all, it's all interlinked together. So, um, so, okay. Um, oh, and big West just finished watching the 10 part series. So he's a bit ahead of us and he said, uh, you know, intro series. Yeah. So, all right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, you guys, you guys, I love, I love the chat. You guys are already on it of talking about these solutions, these things. Um,

41:17 probably look up what, uh, Hawkeye's talking about. Um, he, he's onto some stuff. He, he's, he's doing it down in, uh, Taos, I think New Mexico, at least I'm not sure you're in Taos, but New Mexico doing the goods down there. Um, so let's, uh, let's transition. So I know, I know I got too carried away talking about guns and stuff. He's still talking about guns. I'll tell you every, I'm always talking about guns. These guns are, yeah. Anyway, um, let's, uh, let's transition over here. Let's get this. So we're getting the poultry basics. So basically, you know, I can,

41:54 I can refresh you a little bit. We're watching, we're on the number seven of 10. I don't know how we got here so quickly and then so slowly. I've been inching through these. It's because I've been going through it slower. Um, yeah, yeah. Watching the Hawaiian sanctuary one. So if you're not familiar with that, you know, click on the channel right here, click this little link, it'll bring you to the channel. And then this, uh, Hawaiian sanctuary, this, this pure KNF certification course. This is like a really good one. It's, it's, you know, the iPads on the ground and it's just filming me.

42:27 And I do talk about an organization sort of disreputable now and not, you know, it could move on to the pure KNF foundation and, and put in some good things. Um, but man, um, like mindset. Oh, it's even giving me chapters. How can I be problematic? Oh, you even have chapters. Green vocabulary, the OHN, the herbs, the antifungal food medicine. Oh, so this first one is going to give you a intro and it even put subtitles. I don't think they're very good, but that's okay. Um, you know, mindset, all these things. So you can watch this whole series. This is a good one. If you don't know,

43:06 but this is the basics. Yeah, this one, um, you know, probably, yeah, you know, gotta get inspired to do that again, but we're back here. We're in the, we're in the poultry training. We were here, you know, we were in Muju. We were at Pastor Lee's farm. We were out in his rye field. We spread some IMOs. We're talking about rolling and crimping this beautiful field. Where's the beautiful field? Yeah, there we can see it right here. It's where, you know, he's out spreading some IMO. Look at this. Tossing the IMOs out there before we roll and crimp and knock this down.

43:38 And then we did a bit of soil measurements here. Um, and then I laid down because I was, here's, here's the shot from the ground. And the guy with the amazing visor took a picture of me. I thought that was funny, but I was laying down and then, because man, we were out there for an hour already, just standing around looking at soil for an hour. And then we saw his, his green onions here. Let's mute that a little bit. And then we went out to his neighbor's field right here. So we were at 112 here. So we went, we went over across the street to his neighbors and they're growing apples.

44:20 Conventionally. And, um, so we're going to get, we're going to start here a little bit and see where we get in terms of comparisons, contrastings. So if you can compare with the, our land here, conventional, there's moisture content is high, but the water cannot go down. I put the content here, but when it's dry, just go away. It's trash. It does not go down heat. So if they don't have enough moisture, they keep this water through this pipe. So his neighbor is having to run irrigation, right? I don't even think he had irrigation in his field. He didn't even need it.

45:05 There's so much moisture because the soil's alive. So, um, yeah. Yeah. We don't need the extra water pipe, uh, in the natural farming, but conventional farming, you need this kind of pipe. Yeah. So again, saving money, even though it takes you a little bit more time, you're going to save money. You don't need to run irrigation. You don't have to spend a water bill. You don't have to run all that pipe. You don't have to worry about hitting the pipe. You just, you know, God, it's nature. Uh, do it right. Fill the soil. It's going to have the moisture.

45:53 Okay. We've got the next one. So even worse penetration. I know. Even though it looks like it's kind of soft on the top, it's not a little bit. The bounce area, the cholo, which means this is very hardened. This area is very hardened, but that, that one has a lot extra dirt and they put it on. So, yeah, this is actually one of the things that I think people fool themselves with. They think mechanical tillage, they're going to make the soil soft, but they're only going to make the soil soft in these certain areas. And like, think of this, this is a tree.

46:26 It's wanting to reach out all the way out here. And then also you're planting the trees so darn close to each other. It's like, you could plant every other tree and you'd have bigger root system, more fruit, like more fruits on there. Instead, they're like trying to maximize them out of this sick, weak plants. It's like, bro, plant them further apart, make the things go out, like the roots to go out bigger. And mechanical tillage, you're never going to break up where the tree roots want to be. You're only going to like sort of soften it there.

46:54 and you're going to convince yourself that it's all nice and soft. But the truth is it's not really that soft. And the other truth is if you really want to be a good natural farmer, you need a visor like this. not the only way, but the best way. I like how he just walks over to his neighbors. He's like, look at all this disaster they're doing. They spent all this time and money and effort, and they're still sick. And they're making, obviously they're making it work somehow. Maybe it's government subsidies. I don't know, but, um, and, but they also spent a bunch of money on pipes. Like,

47:37 it's like, we need more money to put pipes in. So we need subsidization. It's like, bro, just do IMOs and you won't need all this stuff. Oh, he, that dude, he burst through the layer. Look at him. He's like, fuck, I'm going to put all my weight into this. He's like, push hard, go deep. Yeah. He speaks Korean. He didn't hear exactly. He had no idea what I said. He laughed though. Good. That's how we communicate with the people that don't understand. Just laugh. It's wild nod. So this is back on Pastor Lee's, um, farm. He, prior to this, we were, that way,

48:22 behind. This is his other part. And, um, he did a bunch of sweet potato. Anyway, I came out later this field, he did a bunch of sweet potatoes, but he's just doing cover crop out of winter. Oh, yesterday, the middle one, it's not very good. Well, it's not the wrong distance. Oh, I think, the middle one, the middle one, the middle one. The middle one, the middle one. The middle one, the middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one.

48:42 The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. The middle one. Oh, so I think, actually, he was running a trial to do organic farming on this side, which I have no idea. What the hell is that? I don't even know. I guess it means that you don't do certain things, but you do, and you're on a list and then it, you get someone to come and check off a list to say you did this.

49:12 Organic farming isn't even defined. Natural farming, you know, it's just you're using a set of solutions and you're working with nature. Organic farming, like, are you even working with nature? Is that even, I don't even think that's part of it, right? When you do organic farming, it just means you pay more for your solutions, right? You're still putting out poisons, but they're organic poisons, right? It's like, anyway, I'm not even sure what organic farming is. I'm sure someone could school me on that and have me, like, look up a definition or something, but what does that even mean? Like,

49:42 don't you want to be doing regenerative natural farming with nature? I don't know. Anyway, he's doing a trial of something that he thinks is defined as organic farming, so this side of his farm is so he can do a trial, but honestly, I don't think he's putting as much effort into it as he could. You know, it's hard when you do a trial, right? It's like, it's like you're playing yourself in a card game. You're like, one hand you're going to favor, right, more than the other. It's like, how are you supposed to do your own comparison? Like, if you're really trying, like, if, you know, if it's him

50:14 versus someone else who's like an organic farmer and it's him versus someone else who's like giving their best effort to do it versus him and he's giving his best effort, then it's a lot better than you're trying to play two hands in a card game. I don't know. Anyway, that's just my take on it. Oh, I muted it. I don't know

50:59 how this soil penetrometer works. Like, you would think you'd push down with like a constant amount of force and then it would give you like a spring or something. It seems like he's just jamming it in and that one dude put all his dang effort and he made that thing go in pretty far into this conventional field. So, I'm not sure how accurate this test is. You know, I think you could just be like, again, that's why I'm saying like you're playing the same cards for the same hand, you know, like you're two hands for the same card game or like you could just push it down harder on your

51:28 natural farming and push it down less hard and push it down less hard over there and be like, we did better. But it's like, you really need this. I don't know if this tool is calibrated with a spring or a tension thing to really measure that, but you'd need to measure that a bit more than just like he pushed it in this far on that side. It's like, how much effort did you put? You know, maybe you hit a rock, maybe you didn't really lean on it. You know, it's hard to, it's hard to know. Anyway. Natural's the deepest. Yeah, you put the most effort into it. Come on. I think if you let

52:20 this guy push it, he's going to put it a lot deeper. He just looks like he has more mass, you know, gravity. Plus, look at how ripped he is. This jacket's concealing it, but this guy is a Chinese ninja. He's trying to say don't put plastic on your field because of this inaccurate test here. I'm like, let's make it a little bit more controlled, measured test. You can't just take your biases and be like, I don't like plastic, so this tool proves that plastic doesn't work. It's like, nah, it's not how it works. You can't take your conclusion

53:06 and make them experiment and the tools fit. It's just not how it works. So I do like the fact that he tries a bunch of different things and he's seeing, he's trying different experiments. He did it with the plastic, he did it without the plastic. You know, like you got to try it and see it for yourself, right? Because, you know, only by doing experimentation are you going to find differences. But there's all, there's so many variables, right? Farming, that's one of the hardest things to do experiments on because you're

53:51 working with nature that has so many variables and or like it's like, you can't, you know, it's not like a lab where you can cut off variables and sterilize the environment and just do this or that. It's like, it's so complex, the system. So, you know, that's why a seasoned farmer, an old timer doing it like, there's so much value in that. What they did. that's visor though, that is going to make you a better farmer. You can't argue with that. So, wherever you go,

54:37 try to compare it to so that you can I also like it when it's like your teacher tells you, you know, like, try it. Instead, they're like, this is the way like, he's very non-dogmatic. He's like, give it a try. Try these things. I did this. That's the one I'm trying. You know, it's always nice when the person teaching you is like telling you that you, you know, empowers you to be the actual, you know, thing. Thing. What is it? Other guys go compare. So, this is his field.

55:28 Look at that. That's pretty darn nice. And he even got some flowers in there. But this rye field in this apparently is organic side. I don't know. Did the other side look better than this one? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe. I think it did, actually, to be honest. But this one's on a different slope and he has even farming this one as long. There's so many variables. You can't just be like, oh, it's the organic. I don't know, man. It's so hard to tell. It's not as ticked, man. And he didn't use chicken manure on the side. I mean, chicken manure is organic. It was just like,

56:10 I'm putting it on the natural side. Anyway, I'm not trying to like downplay this at all. I'm just, I'm just critically looking at it later. You know, if I was talking this much while I was out there, I probably would have got kicked out. but, you know, I just think you gotta be, you gotta be skeptical. Yeah, you guys are talking about the non-scientificness of the soil compaction thing. There are ways to get it compact and you're talking about the certain PSI that roots can't push through and stuff. Yeah, that's all true.

56:55 But it also depends if it's wet or if it's not and then the PSI changes the soil just because you tested it right when it was dry and there's, you know, there's so many variables. It's like, plus you got worms, you got moles, you know, anyway, it's so complex. $90 for a hat. This guy got a $5 visor. I doubt it was $5, man. This was back in 2017. It was probably like 50 cents back then with inflation, right? Let's go to a tea break. Why not? Also, another cool thing about Natural Farmers, we go in his house, man. How cool is that? Like, he's like, welcome. This is my house.

57:40 Come on in. This is his OHN room, by the way. He has a room dedicated to his house for OHN. I like how I just barge my way into the front. I'm like, I got a video camera. Get out of my way. And I just walk to the front of everybody. I'm like, I'm more important than you. Pretty amazing. It's a garlic. It's a ginger. Lactic acid bacterium, I started yesterday. I like that it's

58:26 Saruman or something. Saruman. Anyway, yeah, if you got a shelf in here, you can make it much more efficient. But I think he puts it on the floor because Korea, they have heated floors and it stays nicer in the winter. It's pretty cold there still right now. Yeah. I'm talking. I like to get LAB. I started yesterday. So Angelica is two times, yeah? You notice that? One, one, one, one, but Angelica is two. One, two, one, one, two, one. One, two, one. One, two, one. One, two, one. One, two, one. One, two, one. One, two, one. One, two, one. One, two, one. One, two, one. One, two, one.

59:03 One, two, one. One, two, one. One, two, one. One, two, one. One, two, one. One, two, one. One, two, one. One, two, one. One, two, one. One, two, one. One, two, one. One, two, one. One, two, one. One, two, one. Well, I'm not the, you know, not only am I bringing it to you once, you could just watch this on your own, but only 1.6,000 people chose to do that, but I'm bringing it to you again with all, you know, and how many are there? Who was, I don't know. I don't know. I can't see the number. There's a few of us in here. We're looking, we're looking at it again with more commentary.

59:48 I get to talk shit on the side, right? You're like, I get to talk about manure. I'm like, I don't think that test was very scientific, right? You get to hear me like, later being like, bro. Anyway, I try to look at it with a skeptical, I, you know, I'm always, I feel like, man, office hours, I sound like such a hater on most of this stuff because I'm so critical, but criticality, criticality, thinking, doing these things, and you got to, otherwise it's just like, drink the Kool-Aid, bro. It's like, no, no, no, don't like, like you, have you looked what's in Kool-Aid? Don't drink that. Come on.

1:00:19 Oh, yeah. You have to have five times each container, because every time you make the final product, you have to put it in and put it in and put it in. The five times you have to do that. Can I do everything today? When you use it, then you can mix all five together. Right. I just have to look down to see if the lens is on it,

1:01:07 because I'm using this wide angle lens. Anytime you see me looking down and like my fingers coming, it's because I'm adjusting the lens, because I'm like, is it centered on there? And I have to like look into the lens to see if it's centered. That's a nice pose we got there. But anyway, we're going to stop here. What's that? I'll write the time down for myself. So we'll come back to this next week. What time are we at? We're at 1.22. Okay. We only made it 10 minutes. Oh, gosh. 1.22. Cross the other one out. Okay. 1.22. So we will be back next week. Furthermore,

1:01:39 in Master Li's OE Chen room with his calendar, so you can mark when you stirred it, when you turned it, when you did the things, or, you know, yeah. Penitrometer. Yeah. Yeah. You can, you can get better tools to measure soil compaction. They're expensive though. I was, I was looking at it the other day. Check this out. Like I, and when I say, you know, like here, let's see here. Penitrometer. Yeah. Like, like, look at these. So these, it's $181. And it's just, it's basically just a spring, you know, $181 for this. Somebody's making some money.

1:02:22 Like how hard is it to make a spring calibration thing? I mean, you could just calibrate it and like look at the different tips and the different things. Like this seems, and then, you know, look, I guess it has a nice little, you know, how compact is your soil? The large tip versus the small tip do not exceed, right? Cause there's a spring on it, but it seems like you could make something like this for cheaper. Although there is like a nice bubble thing on there and it has a nice dial. And look at this person. Like, look at that. He doesn't even show his face. He's so proud.

1:02:59 And he's penetrating his soil. Like, look, I guarantee it's just like a spring in there, in that thing that somehow turns that gauge. Like it's spring with a gear. Maybe. I don't know. It looks, it looks like you could build it for cheaper than that. I don't know. Maybe, I mean, maybe if you're not very handy, it's just easier to buy it, but so I'll kind of try 188. $81. Like really? And a hundred people bought it in the last month. Like, can I just have someone nearby me be friends? Like we don't all need this thing. Right? Like a hundred people. Who are these hundred people? I don't know.

1:03:36 I don't know. Anyway, kind of interesting. Um, so, thanks for being here. Uh, yeah, you feel it spring? Yeah. You can just taste the soil and you'll know everything. Um, torque wrench. I bet you. Yeah. Yeah. We'll see. I don't know. You know, calibration, all those things, doing those things. Um, well, thanks. Yeah. Thanks. Uh, that's it for this week. Uh, we'll be back, um, next week. I think, yeah, probably. It'll be a new month. Uh, March, April, it'll be April. Looking forward to getting, you know, it'll be closer to the spring holiday. It'll be for what? 406.

1:04:22 Uh, anyway, looking forward to it. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for, you know, um, the power of the great master Cho acknowledging his excellence, all these things that, because I knew him, I was there at this thing and brought this to you because, you know, and the solutions we talked about, everybody out there doing the good things. Like I was saying, we're all around the world. We do the natural farming. It's like, we're raising the resonance of the planet or balancing the resonance. It's like, it's not just like it has to go up or something. Like we're balancing the resonance,

1:04:50 making it more compatible for life. Life is about balance. And, um, you know, that's, uh, that's what love is, right? It's the yin, it's the yang, it's the flow. It's just like being present, you know, we're doing the right thing every step. And trying to, um, lift each other up, help each other. Not that we have to be up, you know, we could, we could lay each other down, tuck each other into bed. I don't know. It was always like these lift up, go get bigger. It's like, how about just balance? Just we're balancing each other. I don't know. Anyway. Um, yeah, some people have ice storms. We have,

1:05:25 it's nice here. It's a beautiful day. Actually, I gotta get out there. The cows, I think my wife watered the cows, but anyway, I got life to live and so do you. So thanks for tuning in. Thanks for being a digital, um, what do I want to say? Like digital, good person. I don't know. Anyway, you, you know, the deal. I'll be back next week. Love you. I'm going to click on this thing over here and then go.