Screwing the Soil, Baby Chick Care, Bee Water Formula
Drake opens with a foundation update: Pure KNF now has 19 members, and Office Hours is on its way to being renamed the KNF Podcast. The I Ching reading for the last episode of the year is Oppression and Exhaustion.
He tours an ʻawa (kava) farm he's been teaching, where the soil was dead clay with no reason for roots to reach out. His fix is "screwing the soil": auger holes two to three feet deep, spaced every five to ten feet and staggered by five feet, filled with IMO, compost, cinder, and biochar. He'd rather drill columns than broadfork the whole bed. He also shares a bee water formula, medicine, cleanser, protectors, structure, and mineral solutions mixed into water and set in a dish of rocks outside the hive, so bees can land and drink before entering.
Working through Master Cho's animal videos, Drake shows a quick liquid LAB method using just rice starch water, no milk or sugar, though it has a short shelf life. On baby chicks, Master Cho's rules stand out: unlimited uncooked brown rice for the first three days to stretch their intestines, always pick a chick up from the front so it feels cared for, never let the water run dry, and expect a normal die-off of three to five percent.
The episode closes at Master Lee's farm in Muju, remembered here after his passing, covering chicken economics (a worst-case sixty percent gross profit margin), how chicken psychology affects production, and an indoor IMO setup running off a BMW, bacterial mineral water, machine.
Questions answered
- 23:25 Why drill holes ("screw the soil") for root crops like ʻawa? — Dead clay soil gives roots no reason to reach out, so Drake fills drilled columns with IMO, compost, cinder, and biochar to draw them in.
- 27:42 How deep should you auger when screwing the soil? — As deep as your tool allows, roughly two to three feet, spaced every five to ten feet and staggered.
- 27:42 Does KNF actually help bees? — Yes, always, and Drake points to his bee water solution as an example.
- 31:32 What's the bee water recipe for the hive entrance? — Mix medicine, cleanser, protector, structure, and mineral solutions into water and set it in a dish of rocks outside the hive so bees land and drink before going in.
- 32:23 Is broadforking worth it for aerating soil? — Drake isn't a fan of aerating a whole bed by hand; he'd rather drill holes with a battery auger.
- 36:59 How do you make liquid LAB fast without milk or sugar? — Soak rice and starch in water and skim off the starchy liquid that collects the lab, cheap but with a short shelf life.
- 39:16 How much brown rice should baby chicks get? — Unlimited uncooked brown rice for the first three days, it stretches their intestines and improves digestion.
- 41:07 What's the right way to pick up a baby chick? — Scoop it up from the front so it feels your care; grabbing it from behind scares it.
- 45:42 What's a normal die-off rate for baby chicks? — Three to five percent dying off is normal, they're small, fragile, and growing fast.
- 47:13 How careful do you need to be about chick water? — Never let the water run dry in the first few days, it's vital for the chicks.
- 49:45 What profit margin should a small chicken operation expect? — Master Lee's worst case runs about sixty percent gross profit on the sale price.
- 58:22 Can you make IMO indoors in winter? — Yes, Master Lee runs an indoor IMO setup so you can collect microbes even in cold months.
KNF Office Hours is a free live Q&A every Sunday at 9 AM HST. Bring your question to pureknf.org/learn/questions or join live.
In this episode
- 0:00 Welcome & sound check
- 2:53 Foundation update, membership, format change
- 7:34 I Ching: Oppression and Exhaustion
- 17:18 Touring the ʻawa farm across the street
- 23:25 Screwing the soil for root crops
- 28:28 Bee removal story
- 31:32 Bee water formula
- 32:23 Broadforking vs. drilling
- 35:19 Master Cho video: quick liquid LAB
- 39:16 Baby chicks: infinite brown rice
- 41:07 How to pick up a chick
- 45:42 Normal chick mortality
- 49:16 Chicken economics and profit margins
- 55:06 Muju: Master Lee's farm
- 58:22 Indoor IMO and BMW water
- 1:00:54 Wrap-up and closing
Transcript
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0:30 Outro Music
1:30 Sound. Oh, there's sound. There's sound. I don't know why the sounds. messing up on me in the very beginning but welcome to pure kind of office hours for December 29th 2024 the last of the year if you follow that calendar um yeah yeah I don't know
2:17 why the sound messes up on me in the beginning here it's the last last episode it did the same thing not exactly sure what's going on with it but uh I gotta double check that helps if I get to the office a few minutes before I do the office hour. Instead, I like come in here. I'm like, there's three seconds. Okay, quick, launch it. Get there, be there, show up, do the right thing. We got good people showing up. That's why you got to be here for the people, the good, the people doing good K&F around the world. What's up K&F fam? Yeah. Thanks for being here.
2:48 So we got an hour. You can ask any questions K&F related. This is a good time to do that. let you know I probably I'm gonna start the transition over to KNF podcast and rename the office hours the KNF podcast so if you are finding this by typing it in I will be changing the format a little bit and let me show you let's see here so if you are looking for this and needing to find it, um, a, you can find it pure knf.org, which is our, the foundation and the membership site. And if you're a member, thank you because
3:37 you help support this and I was talking about it. I think the way that I shift what I'm doing may not be as easy for people to donate to. So definitely need your support to be a member. There's 19 members this year, which is great. It's amazing. Can't believe we're able to build our membership up from zero to 19 in one year. It's pretty amazing. A lot of good people out there doing, joining, being part of it, helping this show happen. So peerknf.org is the nonprofit that I'm a part of that I helped found and to spread. We exist to restore life through microbial
4:18 awareness, education, and action. So, um, we got a lot of good things in store for this year. Um, and, uh, this, this year coming up and we did a whole bunch of good things this year. So look for the annual report coming out in the end of January. Um, but you can go right here, projects, the live help the office hours on sunday which this may change to you know live help the knf podcast something like that but that takes you to this page which is right here knf support and then right here you can join this here now we got a fractal happening this and the fractal keeps going
5:01 and let's make it let's make it bigger and have a super fractal going and let's make it let's make it bigger and have a super fractal yeah go fractal go fractal yeah oh i paused it go fractal go fractal let's see oh my gosh what am i doing paused it go fractal go fractal let's see oh my gosh what am i doing okay let's make it a bit smaller um so let's make it a bit smaller um oh is this ever gonna end let me mute it and pause it and get rid of it and then maybe that way it will go away um but yeah that's how to get there so there's there's
5:45 many ways to find things on the internet but this one project's live right here find it takes you over here and the show will always be here when it's not when the show is not live this will just say nothing available right here and I probably should have it disappear but anyway verify it's me I think I gotta type in my password over here real quick Oh, no, it wants the other. Oh, oh, oh, oh. It wants the other password. Oh, verify, it's me. I got to check my phone.
6:31 And before I forget, hang on, I'm still getting the show set up for today. And then we got to get some higher wisdom. but hang on I gotta say yes it's me because now they know that I'm linked to this device they know exactly where I am so the censorship industrial complex can come get me um cool hey hey hey cool all right well anyway that's you know so we'll see we're gonna we're gonna shift a few things up this year talked about it with the board of directors yesterday we got our everything lined up from the peer knf foundation coming to you keeping master chose
7:04 stuff alive, the K&F, you also, your practices, your things, your teachings, your sharing of this makes it a reality and brings life to it. So keep it alive. It's a good thing. If not, then someone else will have to rediscover it later. So we're kind of like the last people doing this. First people, last people. I don't know. We're the people doing it. So it matters. Each and every one of you, your contributions, how you're helping it grow, how you're helping the world. If you are a member of the foundation, even better, we can work together to do this or
7:39 go work on your own independently and keep good things going. So let's throw a little I Ching, the last I Ching that we're going to share for the year together. And what could be more fitting than oppression or exhaustion? So, in an unavoidable time of adversity, quiet strength ensures a later success. It is a time of oppression and exhaustion. None of us escape such moments. They are simply a part of living. By meeting them in the correct spirit and cheerfully bending instead of breaking, You weather the adversity and meet with success at a later time.
8:29 Inferior elements, either in one's self, another, or the larger world, interfere now to restrain the superior person. It is foolish to fight against the restraint. Success is simply not possible now. Rid yourself of the desire to progress and return to neutrality and acceptance. The stubborn pursuit of results will bring misfortune. With others, quietness and equanimity are the watchwords of the moment. Say little, say it gently. a similar reticence and gentleness should be applied to yourself
9:20 do not lapse into impatience or mistrust of the deity accept the creative often works in a way we cannot see or understand a feeling of despair or depression is a sign you are holding to a false belief. To perpetuate an untruth about yourself or another or the sage blocks your own happiness. Root out and remove any idea or attitude which causes negative feelings. By opening your mind and quieting your heart and calmly holding to proper principles,
10:08 you make it possible for the creative to eliminate the oppression that currently exists. Yep. Well, that's always fitting. You know, here I am like talking, oh, format changes. Like just STFU, keep doing the same thing. This is working, right? It's working. I really enjoy you being here, this community, the things we built, things we're doing, And I don't want to shake it up and lose that in the idea that it could be bigger and grow better. I just want to make, I want to just make sure that my time, our time, your time, all of our times is as worth it as it can be.
10:48 You know, uh, if we have a chance to reach more folks and reach more folks, right. But all in time, all in the right steps, all, you know, I don't want to abandon this great foundation that we've been working so hard to build, not working hard. like enjoying to build for the past couple of years. And then just throw that away in the for growth for, you know, it's like I'd rather have a lot of quality people than a junk load of quantity people. Right. That's always, I don't know if you feel the same way as I do,
11:18 but oftentimes I feel that way. Sometimes I'm like, man, you know, I can teach and have a whole bunch of people come to the class, but I'd rather spend my time teaching one or two people that are really going to do it than a whole bunch of people that are just going to like be there and be like yeah and then not really do it and it's like i always feel like man what a waste of time but when i have quality people come and they embody it and they do it and they put it into practice and they bring it into their soul and they make the earth a better place and they
11:46 build better microbes and they do better things those are the folks i want to engage with i'd rather spend a bunch of time working with one or two people than 30 or 40 people that aren't going it, you know, it's the quality over quantity. So, and the microbes are tiny. We're tiny. We're making it right. Spread the love and microbes, the love, the wisdom messages. Yeah. The wisdom messages. I don't, I don't F around and do stuff without seeking higher wisdom first, you know, any choice, any big thing I have to do. I mean, I don't ask, should I take a sip of coffee?
12:22 It's probably a vice that I should probably get rid of, but whatever. Um, I did for a while. I was off the coffee i was off the coffee and then but uh every every time i go to the farmer's union convention i start drinking coffee again it's like oh anyway it's good people good fun i love going each year and this year we're gonna do it again big island yay we'll see we're gonna get all that organized um thomas is drinking the third cup of day i have you know not that this is natural farming stuff, but I have made it so that I only make one thing of coffee, one cup. And then if I
13:00 did have a second cup, I would pour it through the same grinds, through the same filter grinds. So I'm not getting like fresh grinds for a second cup. And then I fill that thing halfway with milk. So I'm not drinking fully coffee. I'm drinking mostly half milk at least. And, and then I never do a third cup of coffee because then my kidneys start to hurt and it really lowers my quality of life in general. But that's just me. You can do what you like. Your third cup of coffee, all the more power to you. Oh, your youth. I envy the youth. Well, not envy. I don't know.
13:37 Envy is like a bad thing, but, you know, used to be able to abuse my body much more. Now I have to take much better care of it. Coffee and bong hits all day. You know, nothing better than coffee and pot, I tell you. But these days, you know, one coffee keeps me sharp. If I knew the I Ching guys, they would reject me. It's all on the surface until I make them uncomfortable. Well, it's all good so anyway i want to appreciate you guys for being here man we made a whole nother year a whole nother year of i'm trying my best to honor master cho and you being here i think it really does so i
14:22 want to like shout out big to you shout out big to master cho and pure knf for making this happen because it's really and it's the folks behind the pure knf foundation that really make it happen so i i appreciate you all um ft yeah i just got oh i just got some really good pu-er for christmas oh happy christmas everybody i guess we haven't met since christmas yeah no there's no way we met since christmas happy christmas i got a new sweater look at that it's a this is this is going to be something that's fresh that's going to be just like unreal you maybe the world the world
14:57 is almost ready for it but uh yeah got a new sweater that's always nice um yeah merry christmas i mean a little late but yeah it's still going there's still christmas deals so um yeah yeah yeah the office hours yeah you know yeah that's great uh a compound bow oh my gosh oh that's fun yeah yeah we uh it's funny uh santa brought us a bunch of uh uh, 22 ammo, 22 long rifle. Like who, who knew the elves were into that? Uh, must be, uh, second amendment amendment friendly up in the North pole. Um,
15:45 food grade five gallon bucket and lids. So it's poor support. It's exciting to me. Yes. Yes. Nothing's better than a good bucket. It's like when you're a kid and you get like a two foot piece of rope. You're like, this is the best thing ever. You know, it's not quite enough rope to hang yourself. So it's safe for a kid to have. And it's like, they're just like, yes, a grain mill and a Bokashi composter, man, Santa knows what's up. Santa's going sustainable. Santa brought me a bunch of reindeer poop. It was great.
16:17 oh yeah yeah yeah oh we got a good community of folks that are excited over the like i'm not like the lamest things i just say that it's not they're not really lame but like anyone else it's like oh i got an apple watch it's like i got a bucket growing some chia seeds to get some nice leaves yeah make that plant juice so a little little update on um so i've been working i've been teaching across the street um my good my good friends down there in fact let's uh while i'm while i'm talking about that let me let me pull
17:05 up let me because i can i think i can do this while i'm doing this but i want to pull up a little bit of the farm that i'm working at so they they they contacted me i i've um one of the the guys who owns the farm has taken the class before but he's a busy guy and he he has a really short attention span he like he likes to move and go around so sitting for through the whole class was a little bit hard for him so he did you know he he picked up the gist but really the the good the good bits of it he you know it's it's just a struggle for him um just because you know he's
17:39 a wild man um it's just by nature so but let me let me switch let me do this let me actually go like this and open these together and see if this is gonna do that for me oh yeah okay there we are okay and then i'm gonna bring this over here like that so this is the this is the farm uh let's grab just this window not the whole thing let's grab just this one i'm gonna make it a little smaller here so you can see um uh magic reindeer poop of course it's gonna sprout a bunch of mushrooms um what's up we got grease in the house nick nick something i can't i can't pronounce
18:25 Greece. Um, sweet genetics. Cool. Growing out the varieties. Cool, man. Cool. It's always nice when Santa also has a seed. Uh, he knows what seeds you want. That's cool. Um, some nutritionists are now saying coffee's okay. I like tea. I like coffee. I like them both actually. Yeah. And the nutritionists, man, you know, I tell you what, it's all about the lobbies who, who is paying them the bills black tea is the best fermented tea leaves yes yes the poo air bro poo air in the house i'm a big poo air guy it's like you know what's better than drinking poo in
19:04 the morning poo where poo here baby um coffee gets me three times with no food better than yeah coffee it's good yeah so um so this farm here this farm here this oh let me make my mouse bigger so you can see it so this is where i've been working the past month i i promised them a december um whole month uh training and i'm training three folks um and uh but i've been working here so we've been doing our classes like over here and stuff we burned some bones bredrin lives right here that's the main farmer right here this little tank right here let me let
19:44 me zoom in so you can see i'll just zoom in a bit and we'll scroll over there oh let's see scroll over there you see this tank right here this tank is like a 10 000 gallon tank no maybe maybe it's not that maybe it's 5 000 gallons i don't know if maybe it's a thousand gallons i don't know anyway we we're gonna we're gonna fill this tank up with um knf solutions and then they run um they run pipes down to do irrigation even though you really don't need to irrigate if you got good soil. This right here is an ulu tree. This is a heliconia. So we set our IMO box actually
20:25 under this ulu tree right here in the middle of the field. Let's see. Oh, can you shift to well I didn't know that well the things you learn there's my nice truck um and they've been farming so they've been doing you know using some plastic to kind of help kill the weeds type thing and I don't know if they're going to end up doing that you know they've been they've been experimenting and trying because they're trying they're growing commercial kava or ava if you don't know about it um it's a great thing that helps people get off alcohol helps you kind of relax it's a nice um
21:01 nice beverage to share with friends and connect to the spirit world of God and everything that is around us. So they've been doing some plastic stuff. They've been getting, uh, they got a BCS after I, I showed them about that. And then they've been doing this and it's a little bit conventional. And these things were starting to suffer from, uh, a lot of, um, problems, meaning like shot hole and there's another picture. I don't know if, yeah, you can see that. That's kind of the whole farm in one, one photo. But this is about four acres, five acres,
21:41 somewhere in there. I don't know. You know, you could, you could Google maps it out and see. But so I've been working with teaching them the solutions. And then I also, the other day, I taught them about how to screw their soil. So, um, and to me, that's the, one of the best things they could possibly do here is, uh, screw their soil. So if you're unfamiliar with that, like, it's like, okay, so I taught you all these solutions. What do you do and how do you, how do you do it? Um, let's see. I think I screwed my soil in 2020. Yeah. Screw the soil.
22:16 so here I'll pull this up let's see here uh where's a picture I bet you I bet you this one so there is a YouTube on it of how to screw your soil um but this is basically since they're growing roots uh let's see what this video has let's let's mute this to see then bring this up so this is just uncut raw footage of me screwing my soil here um let's see let's skip a little bit so we'll go right here okay yeah so this is like a hand drilled size screwing your soil so you see me here I'm just using a ryobi drill with a little auger bit on there and then I'm
23:00 taking IMOs and compost mixed together with some cinder and some biochar in this bag and I'm then gonna fill this the hole that I just screwed into my soil right so a lot of people want to make their soil better me i want to screw my soil so again you see that that um that thing and i'm just going around and every so periodically you can do it this small scale but we we did it with a bigger auger over there and i'm like because this soil is so dead it's so dead and i'm like what motivation does the you know this sugar cane in their case it's
23:38 this ava i have some ava growing right here what motivation does ava have to reach out your your growing the roots to sell the roots, what motivation do the roots have to reach out to this dead clay, ash, monacea soil with no nutrients? Zero, right? Zero. So you can top dress IMO, you totally can, and it'll bring the soil to life and the worms will come. But also if you can make a column down, get the cinder and compost and IMOs and biochar into these columns, now the roots are going to want to reach out. And as the water comes in, it's going to seep out and you're going to get
24:15 this system set up so that it's going to do what it needs to do. Oh, there's it. Yeah. So I taught them, I'm like, look, you got to start screwing your soil, man. You know, if you're trying to commercially grow roots, why, like, why would the roots ever reach out there? Why would you ever get a good harvest? You wouldn't, right? So you got to screw your soil, right? And so if you notice on this video I'm going to skip through a little bit but I'm just going and just in the root zone of where the plants need it I'm just screwing it all right and um that's that's what you need to do
24:49 I'll see where's another one this video here maybe this one's closer let's see what we got on this one I don't I'm just watching raw video with you guys so we'll never know what we're going to get until I do it but here yeah here's a close-up of screwing soil so this little auger bit I mean shoot man this is like if you have a drill like this this is like less than you know the drill you can get for like 60 bucks the auger tips like what another 5-10 bucks something like that I mean with inflation it's probably 700 now but this is just simple soil screwing and you know until
25:27 that thing kicks back you know and just screwing the soil pulling the dirt up making a little column into there so i was like dudes you guys got to do this and we didn't do it on this small scale i got a four inch auger that was like you know they're the rayo b 40 volt one to do it but this like you want to make your soil better this is what i was telling him and i'm like okay it's you know just go every every um 10 feet in a row and do this and then on the next row over go 10 feet but stagger it five feet off so every five feet you're getting a hole and you're getting
26:05 all these these columns of goodness out there um and now you're gonna bring this dead ass soil back to life and you're gonna you know put it deep into the ground so that now these plants have a motivation to get out there right like there's just grass this is just bacterial stuff like look how dead and red this soil is as i dig through it like there's it's not it's not like fertile soil it and hopefully here we'll be able to see the column i i drill and in this drill wasn't you know you could get a better drill to do this right get a get one of
26:50 those um like a hammer drill like a uh you know what do they call it a rotary hammer type of thing you know get a bigger one this was just like a like but you see how red and dead that is there's no life down there this is like sub sub soil it's just red as heck and so filling it up this is like look nice IMOs, compost, biochar, cinder mix. I don't know how much cinder actually was in this mix, but putting that into the ground, you know, you don't want to bury IMO very much, but once you mixed it with this compost and there's air and it's going to go, I'm not really
27:21 burying it down or like, you know, I'm just putting it in. This was the way to do it. So anyway, I taught them all the solutions, taught them all the things and then gave them like, you guys got to screw your soil. How deep do I go? Um, I go as deep as my tool will allow me, I, you know, for them, I was like, you know, you can drill this about two feet deep if you wanted. I did the hole we made together was about three feet deep. It's just a lot more material to go down, but, um, but should be, um, a good one there. So, um, yeah, and KNF does benefit bees for sure. Always.
27:59 Um, uh, I do have videos on bees. Let me see here. Let's see here. Bees, bees, bees, bees. I did bees 2019 I was doing bees David's farm oh no David's farm probably didn't have the bees on it oh there's a bee removal this one oh my gosh so this video since it's kind of we'll just we'll go here and we'll watch this yeah look at this all these bees came into my house this is what KNF does to you it just attracts good things to your house so they were called this huge swarm was then going up into my house
28:45 they were going up into they found a little crack and the bees were going into my house and then my friend and they were they were living behind my toilet in here and then so we cracked this open and uh he bare-handed the bees to get them out of there look at that it's my friend david look at that like he's bare-handing these suckers and then we put them in a hive and then unfortunately it rained a whole bunch and we ended up losing the hive but man look at that all these bees living in my house that's just wild of him yeah like
29:25 all the and then the queen was here in the swarm and he scooped all these things out like a wild man and we put it we tried to put it in this hive but we should have cleaned this hive better my friend was like oh yeah just put them in there it's no problem and it just uh killed them the super bad idea and then this one here bee programming this is just their podcast i think but we also this is ray talking on the podcast yeah yeah we also did some more bee stuff that year I don't know is there oh bees with pono yeah so this is not KNF bees but this is where I was
30:02 learning about bee care and stuff and I didn't I didn't get that good at it but I lost my bees it rained too much when I transferred them but uh yeah all kinds of good stuff um the bees and knf are one and you know two peas in a pod um yeah montana okay oh yeah the strategies to help bees um there is a bee liquid let me pull that up real quick uh let's see here let's see uh maybe i already have it open yeah here so there is liquid for a bee liquid let me pull this up over here so on the animals here there
30:51 is a bee water so this right here this is the solution if you were to I don't know if you can see it I'll zoom it in a little bit here but these are the acronyms sorry they're in acronym language but it's medicine cleanser protectors structure and minerals i'll just translate those across and then you just put it into the water and then you put this bee water in a dish with rocks in it outside their bee hive and that way the rocks let the bees land on the rocks and then they can drink this water and
31:26 cleanse themselves before then they enter the hive and this totally powers up your bees so this is like some good end of the year knowledge for you on the bees. So that's, that's the bee formula there. Um, if you're just listening too bad, it's on the video. Um, so that's, that's, that really helps the bees there. Um, yeah, there's some videos on my channel about bees. Um, and then, yeah, there's lots of ways. Uh, what is your drone carry? My drone is doing like maintenance solution but I haven't been flying the drone lately because I gotta get licensed it's really
32:04 what it comes down to um yeah um yeah oh you guys are you guys are good okay um let's see so uh yeah broad forking broad forking you can do I'm not the biggest fan of broad forking because I wouldn't aerate my entire soil. I leave like most of it there and just drilling holes and broad forking is it's a workout. If you're a Viking, go for it. If you're just like a, not a strong person that don't drilling, man, use, use battery power, battery power. It's the best. Um, or mechanical stuff, man. We live in 2024, almost 2025. You need mechanical
32:51 battery stuff to help you. The grass and green weeds you're still dreaming of, you know, it's, it's always the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence i tell you you just fight weeds like no other the grass doesn't stop you know anyway it's not it's not all peaches and sunshine uh everything has its pros and cons um yeah screwing the lawn only with an aerator get the char and biology yeah good good good um yeah punch holes it's manually a bees love knf totally okay um i want a machine that welds
33:36 everything oh cool cool yeah making machines man nothing better than making machines to do make things easier because i used to do it and then my back hurt too bad and then it's like you know, I just, I just want to, um, I just want to do what's easy now and put the, make the machines do it. Um, so anyway, that's that, that's that. Um, we are, thanks. Uh, we're going to do, we'll continue here. I think we're on video number six of the animals. We're going through the animals. Um, we did my dad earlier in the year. Uh, you can find it on knfsupport.com,
34:18 this website right here, KNF support. You can go to the old office hours, watch the old office hours. There's plenty of them, which by the way, I was going to ask you how many folks go here to the office hours and use the table of contents because it's very hard for us to generate. And we're wondering how utilitarian it is. So if you use it, tell me you do. If you've never used it, tell me you don't. Um, and that way then we can make a better decision because the newer episodes don't have any table of contents hooked to them. And maybe I might, I might get a GPT to
34:52 do it for me or an LLM just to like run through, do a transcript and then run it. But I don't know. I, you know, so how many people watch the old office hours and find them? Because I don't know, it's a lot of work and we're just wondering how much benefit we get with it. So let's go here. I think this is it no this is not it that's my channel oh there's there's bees why were we are we're already looking at bees no maybe it was just listening to me and searching what I was already saying um so this was the video we were on we were on number six and I think we just
35:33 started it and I was talking about how cool is it that Koreans have these side fold down trucks instead of loading from the back and like doing they just load from the side smart it folds up look at that it's like a bird wings folds up amazing smart people um really the geniuses so let's see we'll get a little bit into this what were we talking about that morning let's hear Oh, so we were making liquid IMO. Or not liquid LAB we were making, right?
36:26 So anyway, this, we made some liquid LAB here, quick dirty way. It's basically just, you're just, I'll give you a pro tip. we're just soaking rice and starch in water and then you get lab it's just like you're you're starting of making lab you know your first thing where you put the starchy water out it collects the lab out of there you just use that but it has a quick shelf life expire expiration time but um but you don't need a bunch of sugar or milk and it makes it way more affordable to do
37:15 you just need starch um so yeah two days to curd yeah and if you do the the benefit of using the milk is you purify your lab whereas before you know if you just collect it out of the air on starch you're gonna have other bacterias in there too but once you mix it into the milk then you're purifying and you're pretty much only having lab so that's the whole point of that um yeah back loads assume palletized product yeah well most things i mean they were loading pallets on there so um uh making a bet yeah cool so they're making liquid lab and this this morning was the
38:00 morning before we went to before we went to master lee's farm and we'll go here we'll see How are our little baby chicks doing? Let's mute them because they're noisy. We'll leave it on. Looks like they're doing well. They survived the first night. Look how active and chipper they are. They are going to their waters. These little meat birds. Look how active and chipper they are though. Going, drinking the water, going in the house, running back and forth.
38:51 And he's putting more brown rice. So he puts a pile of brown rice right outside the door. You saw that? And they're full of rice. And that's the whole thing. That's the whole idea is that you fill them full of rice. so that that way they are going to extend their intestines and they're going to get more digestibility. But you see he's putting a fat thing, pile of brown rice right in front of the door. So he's replenishing that. You want to put infinite brown rice there. For the first three days, that's all they're eating is infinite brown rice and drinking water.
39:24 And that's what stretches their intestines out. They already have enough nutrition in them for the first three days. infinite brown rice and look how chipper they are they're just running on brown rice and brown rice because it has the hole on it it's hard to digest all those good things about it right So I think Master Cho is suggesting that they're already active enough that you can move this
40:20 back almost a meter this because they're active enough here so he's going to give them more area to run into because there's so many chicks in here i think he's suggesting moving it back He refilled. He refilled.
41:07 He refilled the water this morning. Oh, so he's talking about how to pick up a chicken. And if you grab the chicken from the backside, it gets scared. But if you pick up the chicken from the front, he's talking about it feels like caring and love that you're picking up from the front. And it can feel your love. And it's better to pick up the chicken from the front than to grab it from the back. So if you have to grab these little chicks for some reason, always pick them up from the front where they can see you Where you can scoop them up and he's talking about how they can feel the love
42:10 So that's the level of care that master Cho has even how you're picking up the chicken Like, are you grabbing it from the back and scaring the crap out of it? Are you picking up from the front where it knows you're its friend? You're going to assist it. You're going to be loving to it. Right. I mean, this is when I say Master Cho is like the best animal farmer on the planet Earth. It's because of this kind of stuff that where most people just, you know, you don't even think of that. Right. You don't even think of it. And it's like, no, pick it up from the front.
42:35 Care, love, like put love into your chicken. It's like, you know, this is the stuff that, you know, makes him, you know, putting more rice for the second batch of chickens they're all going out look look at that pile of rice this is what i'm talking about the pile of rice infinite brown rice for them because they will hammer all this you're like wow these chickens ate all that brown rice yeah they are full of brown rice because it's extending their intestines it's doing the thing um yeah uh probably bacteria imbalance i don't know microbial imbalance so um
43:17 yeah yeah yeah same with turtles right yeah no this is it's it's all about this care and attention and thinking about it you know how do they feel versus how do you feel So, anyway, this morning, you know, getting up, doing this, we did, checked on the baby chicks. We're coming through, skipping through. I think they're just speaking Japanese and Chinese. We can't hear that.
44:04 Some of you maybe speak Chinese or Japanese. But look at that. So, look at these little chickens. That's the way they drink. They dip down, they dip it, and then they look up to God in heaven. You see that? Let's go back to that little chick. This is why the drinker is designed the way it is. Because watch this little chicken come over here and drink. Watch it. It drinks, and then it lifts up to heaven. Drinks, and then it lifts up to heaven. And that's, if you have a drinker that's not down for them, because they're used to drinking on a puddle, right, and lifting up,
44:36 and the thing is tilted away from them, that way it doesn't drip down onto their chest and make them wet they don't get pneumonia like this is like there's all reasons to this whole design right it's not just arbitrary like yeah we put this because it's easier it's put it because it's for them right so this is the whole care and attention and things of like what did he say So do your stuff. He's saying do it in the morning. Don't feed them in the afternoon. You're going to make them sick. Let all that food rot in their guts.
45:27 yeah and you know as being a chicken farmer being a chicken farmer for long enough you'll know some of them will die they're just weak and they die and just forget those suckers take them out of there feed them to your pigs go for some negative three day balut because some chickens that's why there's a lot of chickens that's why they have usually a dozen chicks or between six or eight chicks, each chicken because some are going to die and they just die so don't worry about the ones that die
46:14 I've had chickens be born with their intestines on the outside I've had all, you know obviously if a lot of them are dying off you're gonna have you know problems but if like you know three to five percent of your chickens die you know that's that's pretty good you know um it just they're they're you know they're fragile small animals growing fast doing their things some let's go let's go classic korean word let's go so here's this again there's the chicken formula all the things that making doing the things i think we are going to go to muju though
47:04 what did i say let's hear what did i say so chicks cost 700 won per baby about 70 cents each yeah apparently that was important so here we are we are leaving leaving cook some so you you from what i heard and all that they talked about you do not you vitally do not in the first few days of their life want to let the water lapse out you do not want there to be any Well, just not a moment that there's too little water for them. So I felt like they, in the true translation manner, hammered up. Yeah, so don't ever let your baby chicks run out of water.
47:45 It's vital that they keep the water going for them. That's a summary as we're driving the move here. They talk about the things they would change, like not recouping the baffle today, not giving them more space if they weren't as healthy as they are. And yes, it is uncooked brown rice. It's not cooked. The idea is it's hard grains like they'd eat in nature. Uncooked brown rice. Yes. So he wanted to extend the pen because they were so active and so strong. Thanks for summarizing.
48:32 He has this number over and over. He doesn't want to be out there playing with you in a little bit. He's not knowing your costs. I was thinking about this with our conversation last night. If you approach this like you're an employer and you're your only employee, and you say, okay, I'll pay you $15 a day for 60 hours a week, or for seven days a week, you know, you're going to look at your offer of the contract and you're going to be like, that's a crappy contract. I don't want to work for you, you know? So I think, I think part of this
49:07 is kind of, you know, approaching this as kind of like, this is a job, you know, what can I pay myself? And if it doesn't work out, you know, to pay myself something that's reasonable with a kind of an hourly structure that's reasonable, then I need to change something or approach it a different way or, you know, that's why he's going for that 75%. That's why he's kind of reducing feed when they don't need a little bit because he wants to have profitability and those things are all Did he talk about some hard numbers? No, he did talk about hard numbers, but it's irrelevant,
49:33 because your numbers are going to be somewhat different based on your size, based on your scale. Some ratios, I think, would be. Yeah, so he's 60% profit. Gross, right? His gross. He said that's the worst. The worst? The worst is that he's 60% of his sale price. His profit. It's the worst-case scenario. And that's huge. you know and then the thing is if you grow you're only growing your profitability you know because you're gonna you're gonna have economies of scale that work for you so if you can get you know 60
50:07 percent profitable you know for your dollar your sale price um and then if you double that you know and can you see remain there i mean you can just keep doubling save up and buy some land or you take that to the bank i put together three years here my numbers i've set up track of everything you know i'd like a loan on you know a piece of land they look at your numbers and they say okay that's what they want i think the bankers actually want your soul but i could be wrong but here's a beautiful muju this is a rose garden out here near the train station just
50:43 oh man Muju is or no excuse me this is Goksong Goksong don't scratch that this is Goksong this is the Rose Garden this is a train station this is just oh it's so gorgeous what a great little town to live in in Korea if I lived in Korea I would definitely pick to live in Goksong it is so nice Muju nice too but a little too small I think Goksong is where it's at it's uh oh man you ain't got a bug problem you got a duck problem yeah you guys got good comments over there doing that, that's great we're going to keep going the broilers and the layers, did you talk about the feed being different?
51:31 yeah, but that was a different day the feed of the feeding was right that was a different day, you got into that But basically in the end what I got from that was that some of the things he does with the like bamboo leaves and the longer bits of rice, the longer holding onto the rice feet and all that, it all helps with the longevity of a bird and how they digest. And I said with broilers you just don't care about longevity. That's what they do with bamboo leaves. Yeah, he changes that bamboo bit to like,
51:59 you just want to get that out of that and then you don't really care about how long they live because they only get delivered for 40 days oops yeah that broilers don't have the same short life only two days for family is for this look how nice joe's notes are really the real focus on their ability to digest lengthening their um appendix the layers yeah he says the the reason people don't understand how we're doing what we're doing is because they don't understand we've taken care to lengthen their appendix so that their ability to process waste
52:31 into or just process their feed into energy is better than the average bird. I feel like this whole thing is more about chicken psychology than anything. And this is going to be this kind of piece of the takeaway. He's talking about love and care and how they're caring for how they feel in their environment. And the reality is it has a cost of energy to figure it out initially. But in half of it, it's kind of automatic. But when he's also referring to, he says, it also has a pay. It pays you in profitability in how well the chickens perform their production is actually affected by their
53:04 psychology and he's like and those are hidden numbers you don't have that in normal the normal spreadsheet of a chicken operation you know you're not looking at the psychology and how what they produce this is bringing in a component that i mean it is cutting like pets chicken psychology as like you know a focus of an operation that you look at it and it's like these birds feeling peaceful and acting peaceful you look at those chicken coops so many chicken big chicken operations like that you look around and there's like six seven eight birds that are just packed and just
53:29 destroyed because there's all these weird dynamics happening and you know he's saying we don't have that because of the care we take for their psychology in the beginning of life that that is that has a financial component or overall there's more to it than that it's also the roi at your home because of what you're doing for you know your job and job so i hope you guys are enjoying this of just chris kind of summarizing the things but yeah that's what i'm talking about the psychology of the love he's talking about roi money profit all
54:07 these things because that's kind of how chris is driven but um you know it makes sense when you're running a business and you need to do those things um and uh yeah so i hope you enjoy this little bit of it too i'm just letting him kind of summarize up what he was saying because any you know anytime i watch these videos they're mostly in korean and um you know japanese or um um you know uh other languages uh so i'm trying to you know when we speak english i'll let you listen to the video because most of the time i'm just commentary over it but hopefully you're
54:37 enjoying this chicken thing i don't know is it yeah thumbs up So we're off to Muju? Is that our next destination? Muju, Muju. Joe! Oh my gosh. I think it's between the channels. Muju. Look at the beautiful Korean countryside. Oh my gosh. Greenhouses for days. Smog for hours. Yeah. Korea. Freaking awesome. Look at this. Time-lapse. cruising through from Goksung to Muju. And it's always fun, you know, hanging out with the bros that are like deep down KNF. Okay. Here we are. Let me, let me turn the volume back down. Cause
55:20 we're now back in Muju. Welcome to Muju. This is the amazing thing. This is master Lee right here in the center. Let's zoom in on him a little bit. Rest in peace. You, I love this guy. Um, we did such this, this building, we had such good times in so many good things. Uh, yeah. Woo. Some thumbs up all right cool um so anyway he is one of the most um revered um uh disciples of master cho he took what he did and really put into practice and really advanced natural farming did it because he was putting it into practice and so um we're going to his test farm here this is the
56:04 muju so in this trip not only was it um you know we went to one farm where it's more commercial we went to his farm where it's more like homesteading type of thing and let's hear what is he saying then we're gonna assign the roof oh they're just talking about logistics as we're spending the night here i think we spent one day two days two days in muju um but amazing um and then these these guys i think they're the government helpers guys facilitating this learning center master cho what a stud man he he all this you know from him and it's amazing it's all that
56:49 so yeah we've got robert charles in the house what's up bro so um it'll be interesting to see if I change the format from non-live to not to live. So this is here. Oh, it's an obligatory group photo. I'll go. I always time-lapse these things. I love time-lapsing. Hey, thanks Stone. Thank you. Hey, super chats. Thank you. Thank you. Happy new year to you, man. Thanks. I hope 2025 is going to be great. We got some good things. So this is Pastor Lee's place. He has an actual church built into his house because he's that cool. And, you know, again, we're doing this,
57:23 you know welcome to muzu with all these countries you know taiwan uh i don't know is that taiwan i don't know anyway all these countries present there even china look at that we got the communists involved what fun um and this is his place and basically has a few greenhouses over here with pigs chickens he has a like a one acre farm doing all this stuff um and so we'll skip by some of us so here we are what are we gonna do make some solutions i don't know look at these trucks man the bongos man so if you hear that water in the background that water is a bmw machine that he has
58:22 running so he's making bacterial mineral water and that's amazing and then here's his indoor imo thing so um man he he has a really tight great operation uh really like i model my farm a lot after his farm and uh it's just what a great thing But this one, if they bring it over here, anytime you want to make it, then you can make it again. So he's doing indoor IMOs, man. And if you haven't watched the video, you can search my channel and see, like, indoor IMO. And it shows you how to make it inside.
59:08 So even in the winter, you guys out there are making this stuff. So I think what we'll do is getting towards the end here. We'll see. I don't know how I'll remix the format, what we're going to do. But basically, we are going to, you know, we'll pick back up next week, starting at Master Lee's farm here and doing some IMOs and see what he has to do. Because, yeah, as we're going through the chickens, we're also going through all the solutions, right? You already see calcium. You already got egg yolk oil. We already got, what else? I don't know. Structure. We made all kinds of things already.
59:44 You saw those. Looks like we're going to make some IMOs here with Master Lee.
59:48 And one of the cool things about this is that this was a, um, because the chicken seminar was 10 days long, we got to do a bunch of good stuff. It's not like you were just there like a day or two. We're like there for multiple days. I think we, I'm not sure how long we stayed in Muju to be honest. Cause I've been to Muju a whole bunch. I've been there like four times. It's great place. Amazing. Um, and, um, yeah, so up in the mountains, it's nice. It's like one of the highest altitudes. It's one of the most protected counties in all of Korea, all those things.
1:00:18 So these animals doing these things, I hope you're enjoying the journey. I hope you're, you know, tuning in, checking out Master Cho. You know, here I am. You can just watch these videos on your own, but it's kind of fun to watch together. Do some commentary on it. Talk about it. Really emphasize the key points. I really should be taking notes. Hopefully someone's taking notes and compile this into some sort of thing where we can, you know, condense it in to be like, you can just take this and go. But, you know, whatever it is, what it is. We'll see. And so, yeah, yeah.
1:00:51 Firemen, the animals are super vital to do it. All this. So appreciate you tuning in. Thanks for making 2024 a great year. Nice rest, recovery, the return, the return of everything, of life, of everything. Feeling good for 2025. Get ready for some innocence and unexpected things to happen. It's going to be, it's going to be a great year. wild, but don't expect too much because what you expect is not going to happen. So be ready for that. Hope you have, you know, love to your family. Thanks for being part of this
1:01:24 family. Thanks for sharing, liking, subscribing, all the good things you're supposed to do on YouTube. Yeah. Two years in, gosh. Yeah. Take notes, man. But you can always find the old office hours again right here. Can of support. Go back, watch the office hours, take notes, write a book uh you know it's uh make make make the make the movement movement it's all up to us right we're we're like some of the last jedis of natural farming so appreciate you thanks for being here thanks everybody thanks you know cecily everybody the family hey mark mark's in the
1:02:01 house yo mark yo thank you thank you always thinking about you bridren all the improvements man anyway hopefully you'll come by the farm soon we'll see you i hope please come by um all right well thanks okay i'm gonna i'm gonna get out of here 2025 yeah peace all right enjoy your family enjoy the things i'm gonna go do something else now all right love you all right thank you thank you all right we'll go we'll go with a slow closing curtain for today all right all right bye and for real it's uncooked rice