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Asked by hortadamour ·March 5, 2022 ·19.1k readers

which temperature need for using JMS, brown Sugar or maybe salt

Hi Drake, Hi Everyone! I am so glad to may ask you and please dont look at my mistakes, because schooltime is out since a long time. I learn here so much!! Thanks!! My husband and i have a permacultural-garden for self-sufficiency with vegetables and fruits. Because we go work, we could not make imo and so i want use jms. My question is: which temperature need them to start their work. Now we have nights with 15,8 f minus and the earth is frozen. My vegetationsaison is from april to octobre. Must i really wait 2-4 weeks after the first spraying with jms? and then water with the jms and the fertelizer also 3 times inthe next 3 weeks before i can plant or seed? The next question is: we have here the ware in the ukraina and all food become expensive and so i think, if i can use salt not brown sugar? Thank you for answering my  questions Silke from Bavaria

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From the KNF library

From the KNF library Drafted by Claude from Office Hours and the books · Sep 2026 · 4 sources

Drake judges cool-weather JMS by smell. Sweet or sourdough means it is good. Rotten egg or vomit means it has gone anaerobic. (Office Hours Ep. 28, 47:13)

The library's JMS recipe already uses salt and no brown sugar. It calls for water, rich microbial soil, starch, and sea salt. (Office Hours Ep. 90, 38:00)

For KNF ferments that do use sugar, the library says why sugar is used instead of salt. Yeast is salt-sensitive. Up to about 10 percent salt can be added, but no more. (Office Hours Ep. 27, 57:00)

The library gives a temperature only for a different ferment, IMO #2. Cho keeps it at 23-25°C, and says spring and fall batches take more time. (Cho, Recipe, p. 13)

The library does not give a minimum temperature for JMS. It also says nothing about soil temperature, the 2-4 week wait, or planting dates in frozen ground.

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hortadamour · Mar 6, 2022
Hi, thank you for your help!! I mean at which temperature can i use the jms at the soil. Must the soil have a temperature of 18 celsius?

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