Asked by wlmcdonnell ·February 20, 2021 ·22.9k readers

OHN question from book

I have a question. In your KNF Recipe Book, in the OHN section it states "Tincturing vessel is refilled 1/3 from big vessel • do not repeat this step the last time!" Shouldn't this say "Tincturing vessel is refilled to 2/3 full from the big vessel • do not repeat this step the last time!" Am I missing something? I have watched 5 of your 6 begining videos, and bought your book, and am learning slowly. Am making OHN tinctures now from garlic, cinnamon and ginger. Can't get angelica or licorice root here in Costa Rica. Thanks for all your info. I would probably have given up were it not for your videos. Bill McD

From the KNF library

From the KNF library Drafted by Claude from Office Hours and the books · Sep 2026 · 5 sources

The library's notes match the book as printed. Drake's Cho's Solutions page says the tincturing vessel is refilled 1/3 from the big vessel. (Cho's Solutions, p. 10) A second page says to refill to 1/3 with the pour off, then refill to the brim with new vodka. (Cho's Solutions, p. 9)

The 2/3 figure in the library belongs to the first fill. Brown sugar brings each herb jar to 2/3 full after the herbs rehydrate. (Student's Manual, Basic Course, p. 25)

Drake suggests finding the same or a similar herb growing wild near you when you cannot buy the traditional ones. (Office Hours Ep. 22, 44:06) A mix without Cho's herbs is your own medicine, not OHN. That name is reserved for Master Cho's licorice-cinnamon-angelica recipe. (Office Hours Ep. 123, 44:44)

The library does not say whether 1/3 or 2/3 is better for the refill, or why the book words it as it does.

Sources

44:06 Office Hours Ep. 22 (Mar 2022) — IMO Bath, OHN Tincture, Fermented Cannabis Plant Juice · “Find the same or a similar herb growing wild in your area”
44:44 Office Hours Ep. 123 (May 2024) — Root-Tip FPJ, OHN Substitutions, IMO4 Temperature Limits · “call it your own medicine, not OHN, since that name is reserved for Master Cho's licorice-cinnamon-angelica recipe”
p. 10 Cho's Solutions · “Tincturing vessel is refilled 1/3 from big vessel”
p. 25 Student's Manual, Basic Course · “After two days add enough brown sugar to the 4 jars to bring them each to 2/3 full.”
p. 9 Cho's Solutions · “Brown sugar refill to 1/3 with pour off refill to brim with new vodka”

2 more answers

dagoofman · Feb 24, 2021

odd ... ok well theres another way to get there lets try that ... look for a folder icon that says Medicine (Oriental Herbal Nutrient) click on that and scroll down through the posts then u r looking for ohn-recipes-1-3-or-2-3-confusing is the name of the post

dagoofman · Feb 24, 2021

I have seen no justification for the recent attempted modification of the recipe from 2/3 to 1/3........ Folks may have individually practical concerns such as affordability, as the original recipe calls for more alcohol which carries significant cost, but this is weighed against the volume of KNF Medicine rendered per usage of herbs which is significantly greater. Individual variance should be allowed as necessary, but the whole recipe should not be changed by any other reason than proven effectiveness. so what Drake is saying is the OG recipe calls for more alcohol so the 1/3 from large vessel then 2/3 alcohol is the correct way due to the greater tincture of the herbs from more alcohol on a personal note when i made my OHN to avoid the confusion i just went 50/50 Drake says theres a 40% leeway in KNF both +/- so over 1/3 under 2/3 .... 50/50 just sounded like the way to go