Seed IMO Collection, Dry-Area Microbes, IMO Turning Machine

4:00 Hello? Yeah, hey. Nothing like having a live podcast, too. understand the, uh, problems with, uh, what do you call, um, keeping it all together live, you know, it's like, I go, I go, I get everything set up and then the camera dies. And then I'm

4:48 like, Oh, so then I unplug the camera. It kills the sound, bring the sound back up. the camera dies it's like okay nothing like having a live live broadcast to understand the difficulties of production and all those things that get brought to you by the pure k&f foundation and uh trying our best as a non-profit to get you the goods and have some members in the house great great cool master cho doing his thing k&f podcast coming to you live from hila hawaii every Sunday. And here we are. It's Sunday. It's 9 a.m. It's actually 9.04. It took me four minutes

5:28 to get the technical difficulties sorted out. I'm like, got it all set, ready to go. Okay. Yeah. As soon as you click that live button, it's like one of those things, man. Disaster will strike. I think there's sound coming through. At least I see sound on my side. So if you don't hear sound, let me know because I think from my side, I see the sound going, but I'm not sure, you know, only you're, you're going to get it. You know, I had to plug some stuff back in, have some wires pop. It looks like my cable is, um, cool. There's sound. It looks like my cable

6:06 is fraying in the back, which might be part of the problem. Hopefully it's not rats eating cables. I've had rats eat cables. I don't think there's rats in here, though. I hope to hell not keep the rats away. Anyway, welcome to the KNF podcast. Doing good stuff. Coming to you, you know, all off-grid power. Amazing. Let's see. It is January 12th, 2025. And what a year 2025 has been. And we'll start with a bit of higher wisdom and then we'll get onto some ranty stuff. And then we'll move into talking about Canif animals and continue our series on that.

6:52 And if you have any questions, let them go. Fire them away in the chat here, live on YouTube, every Sunday. But before we get into anything and everything, let's start with a bit of higher wisdom because God knows we need it. Okay, so today, today, today, today is the gentle, the penetrating wind. Consistent correctness at every turn, or consistent correctness turns every situation to your advantage. You know what? Hang on. there like yeah i was wondering i'm like why am i seeing the mirror in the background and it's like

7:41 oh it's because you know it's supposed to zoom in a little bit more make it anyway all kinds of good technical details happening this morning so the image of this hexagram is that of the gentle wind dispersing storm clouds. A wind that changes direction often, even a very powerful one, will disperse nothing. It only stirs up the sky. The wind that causes real change is the one that blows consistently in the same direction. There is an important lesson for us in this example. When faced with a difficult problem to resolve or a goal we wish to achieve,

8:29 we are tempted to make striking and energetic actions. Though it is possible to achieve temporary results in this fashion, they tend to collapse when we cannot sustain the vigorous effort. more enduring accomplishments are won through gentle but ceaseless penetration like that of a soft wind blowing steadily in the same direction the truth of the sage penetrates to us in this way and this hexagram comes now to remind you that this is how you should seek to penetrate others.

9:19 The advice given to you by the I Ching is threefold. First, establish a clear goal. The wind that continually changes direction has no real effect. Second, apply the principles of gentle penetration to yourself. By eliminating your own inferior qualities, you earn an influence over others. And turd, avoid aggressive or ambitious maneuvers now. These are rooted in desire and fear and will only serve to block the aid of the creative.

10:10 The desirable influence is one that flows naturally from maintaining a proper attitude In your interactions with others, bend like the willow By remaining adaptable, balanced, accepting, and independent And by steadily moving in a single direction you gain the clarity and strength that make possible a series of great success great success oh wild well 2025 seems eerily similar to 2020 so far great fires breaking out

11:07 wild things happening. Like I said, 2024 nice and restful. 2025, get ready for something you're not expecting. And lots of it. But if you're doing right things, doing natural farming, doing the right things for the earth, for your family, for your community, I think you'll fare okay. It's going to be a banger though. Be on guard. Not that I know anything, not that I'm like some sort of wizard or anything. I just got this feeling and I got guidance and I'm like, okay, get ready. But stay close to your family. Definitely going to be a good one. Help your family out.

11:51 Which, speaking of helping family out, my uncle's house just burnt to the ground. He was one of the first people to lose his house in the Palisades fire. Yeah, the I Ching, natural farming I Ching. Yeah. steady goals, steady goals, the racing ahead, man, you can get set back, especially by the wind blowing through creating wind plus fire equals, Oh gosh. Oh gosh. It's wild. So, you know, as I'm watching the coverage of this stuff, I'm watching it and they're saying climate change, climate change, climate change. And like, you know, especially the BBC, those, those folks, they're

12:35 always wanting to pin it on climate change. And I tell you what, it is climate change, but it's not the CO2 type of stuff they're pushing on us. What's happening, and take it from me, an expert, right? It's just my opinion, man. But what's happening is the earth, as the microbes die off, they dry out and then when that then leads the plants to to dry out and die or become burn like burnable like tinder and then when it rains the the soil is dead and it can absorb the moisture so it comes off as a flood so what we're going to enter into as climate change happens not

13:22 co2 in the air like that has very little to do with co2 it has a lot to do with toxification and microbial die-off those are the two main factors of climate change is when it rains it floods because the microbes can't accept it into the soil because your soil's dead it's compacted it's it's it you know it's like a scab it just doesn't accept lotion into it and it's going to rain and flood. And then when the rain stops, there's no moisture to reseed the clouds because there's no moisture. There's no microbes breathing, respiring, you know, breathing, keeping the soil alive.

14:03 And it's going to dry out and drought and drought, drought, drought, drought, drought, dry, dry, dry, dry, dry. And then the rains will come and it'll flood and it'll flood and fire and flood and fire. and we are entering into a flood fire cycle even here in hawaii where we usually where we get tons of rain i'm noticing it the earth is drying out but why because of microbial die-off it doesn't really have to do much with co2 in the air because co2 is just like pretty chill it's awesome it's uh you know compared to how much um you know it's it's pretty it makes plants grow better it does

14:40 all kinds of things like that but the toxification kills the microbes the microbial the tillage of the earth the tillage we've been doing for the past you know tillage that we've done the whole midwest of the united states the tillage the whole california central valley the village valley the tillage that's killing our soil tillage is killing our soil and the lack of people putting microbes out there right we're burning fossil fuels that had all these toxins buried deeply within the earth we're bringing them up to the surface we're then aerosolizing them they're landing on the ground

15:13 they're toxifying all the microbes that were then doing feeding plants or saving moisture or building soil are now cleaning up toxins they're busy the plants then start to die because they're like i need this nutrient and the microbes are like i'm busy cleaning and then the plant starts dying forests are dying everywhere right and then it's like beetles are attacking why the hell are the beetles attacking because the tree is not having a microbial interaction to get the nutrients it needs and the beetles are coming to janitize to clean that to get it out of the system

15:47 and then we're like oh the beetles are causing this plague and it's like no it's the microbial die off that's causing the plague and then the beetles come to clean up they're there as like helpers and we're like all right we just kill all the beetles no restore the microbes restore the indigenous forest. I see planes dumping fire retardant. What if they, in their off time, have those same planes dumping IMO4, same indigenous microbes from that area, creating a thick blanket of microbes, letting that go, bring the water back into the soil,

16:26 make it so there's moisture again. That's how we can save this, move out of this, fix the climate change, multiply the microbes, bring them back, bring this whole area back to life, spray a bit of soil foundation solution, let the microbes work their ways into the soil, and then now there's moisture, right? You know, as your soil gets deeper, the air has moisture in it, the air percolates in, they condense it just like a glass gets water on the outside, they bring water into the soil, out of the air, into the soil. And now you have moist, healthy soil that can

17:06 support plants through any fluctuation of rain, no rain. The soil stays moist. It stays good. Yeah. Hawkeye, man. I was wondering if you, if you're still alive, I saw your video the other day. I want, I didn't watch the whole thing. I just briefly clicked on it, but I was like, yeah, Hawkeye is still alive. Talking about Gaia. Heck yeah. James Lovelock in the house. But this is how it works. Right. And this is, you know, so, so you're going to hear all this climate change and people are going to want to like have carbon credits and the banks are going to want to seize

17:35 your assets and put them on blockchain, blockchain, chaining you to a block. Um, and people are going to speculate on the Ponzi scheme called Bitcoin, which is actually mining and decrypting all of our encryption. Like, hello, hello. This is, you know, um, you know, if you're investing in Bitcoin, you are actually in decrypting any computer security we had. That's why they're paying you money for it. And it's just a Ponzi scheme, right? The Ponzi scheme is defined by like, the only way you can make money is more money is coming into the system. It's a Ponzi scheme.

18:15 So all these things coming up, you know, like we're moving into a wild bit of time here. and the solution is korean natural farming i mean is one of the solutions right permaculture um you know composting uh just even giving a shit about the earth and caring just a tiny bit pooping in the right place uh and stopping tillage and understanding that you can enrich and and do integrated animal farming and bring dead pieces of land back to life and with the right way of grazing and bringing animals into a situation. The reason animals are important is they are these

18:55 very quick composters. They eat grass and then they poop it out. In less than 24 hours, they've composted this through a very complex microbial digester system and then they poop it out. They basically do it for free. You just move them along and they're going to eat and compost all day. You don't have to turn that compost. You don't have to break your back. By managing them and moving them along chickens uh cows sheep goats um horses uh you know any any herbivore dinosaurs i don't know if you have any like brontosaurus around but they're they're mega

19:28 composters um and i'm not sure they're they're too easy to get these days um they're no longer on ebay but um but bringing those back bringing those to cycle and and cycle the earth back that's it. Then their poop then starts these compost piles, brings in, it brings moisture. You ever go under a piece of poop? I mean, that's kind of a weird question, but it's moist under there. There's moisture. It's, it's full of moisture. It's actually re-greening the desert. It's, it's, it's, you know, and then biochar, you know, I mean, it's kind of hard to talk about right now

20:00 because there's so much, so much of it, the wind's blowing so much, it's turning mostly to ash and not much biochar is left and ash is not that good for your soil. I mean, it can be, but it's not in the quantities it's like it's better to have biochar but biochar bring the charcoal in this these are the these are the solutions to changing this you know the the microbes then help that toxification bring in the moisture keep it sealed in the char putting the imo4 down even liquid imo just taking seed imo liquefying it putting the solutions out bringing the soil to life

20:33 this, these are the solutions we need, right? We need those big airplanes instead of putting fire retardant. Well, I mean, you need, I guess you sort of need fire retardant when, you know, your house is going to burn, but also what the hell are you doing building your house in the, like in a tinder pit? It's like, it's like building your house in a fireplace. It's like, hello, what do you think was going to happen, bro? Um, but you know, building the soil around you bring in that life you know like these are the these are the solutions we need uh coming

21:08 forward so you're gonna hear a whole bunch of stuff they're gonna try and get you to buy more bitcoin or blockchain or or stuff but but also the other thing yeah that was the other thing in my head was like you're putting fire retardant out i bet you that stuff is super antimicrobial so now they're just poisoning the soil even more um ensuring the next fire and so you gotta you you know, mix IMO in with that fire retardant, mix it in. Every one of those guys out there, they're spraying a hose. If they had a maintenance formula in there and biology in it. So as they're

21:40 shooting these fires down there, they're, they're restoring the microbiome, then all that toxification from these fires that are causing, you know, like all that gas and all the plastic melting and the metal melting and all these crazy videos you see, if it's actually like bioregenerative stuff in, double up those firefighters, heck, they're saving the planet. You know, they're, they're, they're inoculating the soil while they're putting out the fire. Like what could be better than doubling, you know, knocking down three buildings with two airplanes. It's like, man,

22:10 you gotta, you gotta be like George Bush kind of smart here and do the right, you know, I can't even see that with a straight face. Um, you know, we gotta, we gotta put the right pieces in the right places and do the right things. And so again, I'll come back to it. 2025, you know, is about, you know, taking care of your family. That's your family, loved ones, but also your family of the microbes, your family of plants, your family of animals, your family of the soil, your larger collective family of like doing this. And if we take care

22:48 of our family, we're going to be great. If we ignore it and we don't, and we don't become that leader to be that person, to be like, Hey, yeah, I know no one else is doing this, but I'm going to do it. I'm going to inspire it. And I'm going to build this. I'm going to build this family because I know there's family members out there that need help. And if you make yourself that person and you become that, then we're going to have a great year. We're going to have a great thing happening. this could be the year to change you know the trajectory of the planet is putting the soil

23:21 there you know put getting the microbes you got this knowledge right you got this knowledge and and at a certain point you're going to activate and you're going to do this either that or you're going to compost and and you know become a small thing of compost but at least eat a bunch of IMOs so when they put you in the ground you're gonna you know be beneficial versus like anaerobically dying or whatever, you know, whatever, do it, do what you like. But, um, but this is the, um, you know, this is the way through is go get a hose and fill it with some microbes, make some

23:50 IMOTs, start spraying it around your place, um, and see the results and see them change and see how much of a difference you can make in one year, because the microbes are exponential. Like you put some microbes out, those make more microbes, but then you put more out and they make more microbes and then those microbes are making more microbes and it's an exponential change back to life in the soil less toxins more stable climate um healthier food healthier immune system for you healthier animals around healthier children more fertility less microplastics assuming

24:31 you're doing it right um you know pretty much every solution we need healthier community happier community um i don't know man you can pretty much enumerate every solution we're looking for you know less less like i mean you could say less homelessness at least for the microbes for the animals we're creating more biodiversity you know i don't know about humans humans got their own like problems right i don't know if you can solve the human homelessness with just microbes but now you at least you have a job and now you know you're doing something whether you know you're

25:04 growing your own food. You don't have to beg. You don't have to eat out of a gas station. You could grow coca and marijuana. I mean, go ahead, you know, be an entrepreneur, make your own drugs, man. Like, uh, you know, I don't know how they make fentanyl, but yeah, I'm sure you could figure it out. You know, grow some, grow some, uh, um, wheat and make ergot and like just trip on LSD or, or just have more cows around to shit. And then now you got mushrooms. it's like go ahead be a drug addict you know like you're gonna put these things on you know like

25:36 but be a good one not just like i need stuff to get or ferment your own alcohol you know make grow some fruit grow some grains ferment that stuff make your own like so i guess it could solve the homeless drug problem too by just making those people at least sustainable drug addicts versus I don't know. I don't know. I mean, there's hard. Don't get me wrong. There's hardship out there. There's lots of hardship. And like, I'm just saying like, oh yeah, we'll grow a garden, bro. It's like, no, there's hardship. We got, and that's, that's why those of us that are on the

26:11 path to doing the right things can also be the people that, um, you know, disaster capitalists, like, uh, help other people get up to where they need to be, you know, a bit of charity, a bit of disaster capitalism, a bit of helping your, your, your neighborly brother out your, your sister, your people that are confused about what they are, the, you know, help them out, make the life better, um, to, to, um, make it, make it happen for all of us, you know? And, um, and so I'm not just like, just, you know, all these people in California, it's like,

26:48 just grow a garden, bro. It's like, yeah, they're kind of, they're kind of effed for a bit here. But again, we could have told you that a couple of years ago that you probably should not. I mean, actually, like everyone's like, just stay in California. Don't move over here, bro. You're just going to ruin wherever. There's so many, you know, it's like, you know, here I am descendants of Californians talking shit about Californians. But, you know, but, you know, like it's the second biggest city in America and it's burning. It's like, oh, man, I don't know.

27:18 You know, you kind of got to do the right thing at the right time. And anyway, long rant. Hopefully you were offended, but then also inspired at the same time. And the goodness came through. So I don't know. We'll see. The solution is natural farming. It's not the only solution, but man, is it good. What is IMO cheese? Curds from lab. Spray it out. Eat it. Eat it. It's fats and oils and it's things that nourish your brain. Mix a bit of garlic salt in there, a little bit of curry, and get some tortilla chips and eat that. It is good. It's brain food. The cheese that,

28:02 you know, it's cheese. It's basically farmer's cheese. Assuming it's not, you know, like it's looking, you know, good. I don't encourage you to eat something that's not good. But if it's good in your bowl, go ahead, eat it. It's delicious. Uh, you can, you can squeeze it out and make a pizza with it, you know, cheese, cheese pizza. Um, or you can just fry it, you know, fried cheese, almost like, it's almost like a paneer, but not quite. It's a little bit different of a process, but, um, all those things. IMO, well, IMO cheese in your rant, you said make IMO cheese and spray

28:39 it. Um, I, did I, I make seed IMO, I think is what I said. Seed IMO. So collecting. So if you, if you are a, uh, if you have the book and if you don't, you can go to pure knf.org and go to KNF support and better, better yet. Um, you know, go, uh, KNF support. Oh no. Yeah. My screen's messed up. I can't even screen share today. Oh man. I'm going to have to do this and drag this over here because I had this technical difficulties this morning. So then drag this over here. And I think, is it going to share? Oh no, it's not going to even share. No way. No way.

29:26 Okay. No. Why is it sharing that screen? Okay. Anyway, um, technical difficulties today. Are we even going to be able to get into animals if I can't share my screen? Oh no, I think so. We should be able to, oh no. Um, what is this one doing? Oh man. Okay. Technical difficulties. Maybe I just rant the whole time. No, I got to stop ranting. But a seed IMO, seed IMO. Yeah. Make seed IMO. It's you just go out, you collect some microbes from your local environment on rice or any kind of starch will work. But there's a certain way to do it.

30:08 You collect it and you bring it back and then mix it with water and the other nutrients and make seed IMO. At least you're getting, you know, infant type of microbes out there. it's better to go through the whole IMO process, make IMO, uh, propagation, um, foundation IMO, all those old good things, um, that sometimes people just use acronyms and say one, two, three, four, and people don't even know what the difference is. But if you call it a foundation IMO, maybe that's better. I don't know. There's reasons to go through the whole process.

30:37 And I think differentiating why to go through the process to do it. Um, Um, aloha, don't take the sand, don't take the rocks. Um, you know, putting rocks in the right place. I bring rocks from Puna over here to Hamakua because we need that youthful rock. So I'm not really taking it. I'm more composting, breaking it down. Pele will put it in the right place eventually. And if I didn't, if Pele wasn't, you know, Pono with me should kick my ass off the island. I'm certain of that. Um, but so far we've been homies, you know.

31:09 So, oh man, I wanted to get the screen up over here, but can I do it while I'm doing this? I don't think so. Let's see. I got to unlock this. Oh, trying to fix this thing during, it says right monitor. Is it this one? Let's see. Oh, that's even worse. oh there okay I fixed it whoo I fixed it okay here you go I don't know why it wasn't loading but here's the book knfsupport.com the book and we can look at the book a little bit here um why not let's see where's the book here let's pull this thing up like this bring this thing

31:59 over and let's talk a little bit oh why did is I gotta undo that feature it maximizes when I drop things. It's a nice feature, but it's not always what I wanted. Excuse me, I got a sneeze. Hang on. Okay, only one sneeze this time. I've been only one sneezing lately. It's kind of weird. Usually I double sneeze. But basically making the maintenance formula, so food, cleanser, medicine, structure, and then put in seed IMO at around 1 to 500, so you could calculate that out. So for every gallon, putting in 8 milliliters of it. Thanks for the blessings. Always appreciate that.

32:42 And the seed IMO is right here. Or no, it's right down here. It's down here. There it is. There it is. So a seed IMO collection. So going out, digging a little, digging into the good soil where you think they're going to be, putting in hard-cooked rice with one-third in a container, putting the soil you dug out on top, covering it with leaf litter, and creating good IMOs that look like this. Not like this. Not like this, but like this. These are great seed IMOs. They're bacillus subtilis along with a lot of other microbes that are unidentified.

33:22 And then you would take these from this, mix them with sugar so that they are preserved seed IMO. and then putting them into water and making a water tea and making a bunch of different collections and you can make seed IMO. And this is better than nothing and it's pretty easy to do and you can get started. Or you could also go the disgustingly cheap method and follow this recipe here. Either way, those are going to be good. So this one's worse, but the other one's better. But doing this and understanding what they are and what they are, you know, I got a whole bunch of stuff on that.

34:05 But with all that said, we are getting through a half hour. I think I'm going to go over seeing all the IP addresses on my network. I'm going to go over. Oh, yeah, I went to the browser and talk about coming up today. If you're not a member of the Pure KNF Foundation, it's a great time to join because today we're having a monthly membership meeting today. So it's an hour, hour and a half, two hours. Depends how long we go. Depends how excited folks are. But we meet together via Zoom at 2 p.m. Hawaiian Standard Time.

34:46 So instead of just YouTube coming out to you by the Pure KNF Foundation through the KNF Podcast, you actually get to be part of it and be part of talking story with other people, talking to them directly, getting other topics. It's amazing. It's a good time. Goofman's in there. Cecily's part of it. We got, who else we got here today? Yeah, that's about all the members that I see here right now. All one same. I think you're part of it too. Jumping in, getting to know each other. you know, the good stuff. So today, 2 p.m., be there, monthly membership meeting. And if you're

35:22 not a member, what the heck are you waiting for? What the heck? I don't know. Maybe you're waiting for 2026, something like that. But look at all these fine folks. And if you become a member, you can also watch all the past recordings. You can hear from Stacey talking about the microbiome, hear about marty and cody how they revolutionize their farm to doing um you know microbes for cacao growing talk to reverend or hear of reverend logan's video about how he's just like making everything work so well at his farm talk to or hear from evan sharp about what he's done

36:00 just amazing sue's talking about her gut microbe transformation all these great things which i don't know why this one's over here oh the date didn't change for this one this one should have been popping first or maybe we're spinning all the way around i don't know yeah okay we spun all the way around that's what happened um so be part of it also get the micro documentaries as part of the membership here from john caverly here from mike dupont moose and mimi cab reverend Logan, you know, all those things, you know, get all this goodness coming to you by being a member,

36:40 being part of it and get clarity, like all one same, get the clarity, you know, all the things you need. Um, and you know, I, I prefer, you know, ask questions during the KNF office hours, cause this is what this is for, but you know, you can ask questions there too. It's great. We're part of a community. We're building something big, even though it's very tiny. a lot of tiny things equal something huge eventually it's exponential so with all that you know hopefully you're pumped hopefully you're going to join hopefully you're

37:10 going to be part of something good and help the office hours thrive and succeed or just you know super chat here that's great too anything thanks i think i did get super chatted i didn't mention earlier thank you bird this is great we got i got super chatted today it's always nice when i get super chatted through the YouTube. Um, it's always nice, you know, here I am doing this every Sunday. It's nice when, uh, you know, it flows back, flows to you this way and then it flows back. So I don't want to harp on that too much, but I do want to thank you for super chatting when you do,

37:40 because it really means a lot to me to keep me motivated and excited and going and financially solvent and all those things. Cause farming costs a lot of money. Farming ain't free. I mean, if you're farming, you know. So, um, so anyway, with all that, let's jump into the poultry training. We are on number six at about two hours into it. It's a four hour video. So just for a little review, uh, we went into, um, we went to Muju and this is master Lee here talking. This is master Lee and we are in his greenhouse. And we, first thing we did when we got to Muju was we started

38:24 to make IMO. So we're making it in a greenhouse inside in, what is this? I think this was fall or no, this was, this was spring when I was there. I think it was, it was early spring. And Korea's gets cold, man, it gets cold. So we're still all wearing jackets. It's cold. So he's doing IMOs inside. And so that's where we left off, right? He was talking all these pro tips about how he does it. We were going through, we were doing this and, um, you know, we listened in. Master Cho gave us some pro tips on some things last week. I think, um, that's, it's hard

39:01 for me to remember because I know so much of this stuff that I'm like, Oh, but he was talking about some sweet pro tips. So if you want to join, these videos are on the internet, you know, it's only only 1,300 views on this. So if you're one of those 1,300 view person, you're probably well-educated. But here we go. We are burying these boxes. Master Joe has given us some pro tips. Let's listen in. It was working good, strong. So he used that EM, effective microorganism, which is produced by the laboratory of Japan. And you use that microorganism for the purpose of mission, of the world.

39:40 world saviors uh it's a it's one of the uh the religion christian religion that's a cult but it's one of the religion started using em effective microorganism that's a they use it as a mission strategy so they even have a cult based around em we should make the cult of imo in fact you may already be part of it the microbial secret society by in no means does it affect any other religion you're part of, it just adds to it of knowing that the microbes are also on your team and you're part of that team. And that the higher power comes in and the lower powers come up and that empowers you

40:21 as this person in the middle of this wonderful goodness to be in the right place at the right time to do the right things. So the Microbial Secret Society, you may be a part already. You may know the secrets of the microbes. You may have the hidden knowledge of the ages. Oh my. especially if you watch all these videos, you'll probably be like, you'll probably be like, uh, what is that? Like, uh, a knowledgeable person, a good person, a good Samaritan, maybe. I don't know. Um, but, uh, yeah. So anyway, we're getting into this. We, we,

40:53 we heard the EM pro tips, all those things, you know? Um, and, uh, so we'll skip forward a little bit. Let's leave, let's listen in a bit more. That's Chinese. We'll skip the Chinese a little bit. So this, what I'm trying to say is, uh, if you have over protection to give, uh, over protection of the children, then they don't thrive very well. A very tough or hardship you give, then they're stronger than the weaker one. Yeah. So don't be spoiling your IMOs. Don't be spoiling your children. You know, you got money and be like, yeah, I'm going to earn this, put them out there and make them work.

41:35 They're gonna have better things. It's like the IMOs, you know? You pick them up from the poor area, the harsh area. You're gonna get tough ones. And educate them. Now, we notice that if you go to the mountains, there's some water area, water area, and then some place, they don't have much moisture. If you plant the seeds, the water area, they grow really strong, I mean, the tall and big,

42:22 then the dry area, but their fruit is not very good compared to the dry area. They grow small, but the fruit is very good. So again, you know, where you plant things, where you get your microbes, the harder things, sweeter, better. What are you actually doing with your life? What do you want? You know, and this is the answer. Listen to my Master Cho. All this deep wisdom, this man, I can't believe, you know, my wife and I were just talking about going to Korea. trying to say is when you collect this microorganism in the mountainous area try to collect a dry area

43:07 instead of the too moist area collect from the chart the harsh area you know yeah goof teaching your teaching your brother man it's the year for family microorganism consider these factors that i talk to you a little bit higher than what you try to farm and the dry area than moist area even if it's same locations then that's the way you can collect the strongest microorganism so there you go super pro tip i mean i think we covered this last week but little review because i forgot already should have taken notes man what am i doing i'm just sitting here listening to it

43:44 like last week i was talking shit about people not taking notes and here i am not taking notes and it's like i already know this right but the moisture part is something i don't always teach about but i always do talk about getting the microbes from a bit higher elevation you know and getting the stronger ones. But here you go. Here you think you're just going to learn about animals, and now we're learning deep knowledge about microbes. So let's continue. One thing you should remember here is why the microorganism will multiply. Because they wanted to have more children.

44:25 of them, they have made microorganisms also make this next generation more number than their generation. So you understand what's the reason why you wanted to have a stronger microorganism to collect? And then where to find out those stronger microorganism origin? I'm trying to find out where to find out those stronger microorganism origin. So, the purpose of this particular leaf mold here inside this tent is because when I have to go every time to mountain, it takes a long time and long hours, and sometimes it's rain, you cannot collect it.

45:12 So that's the reason why this one place you collect it once a year, then this can be reused it whatever amount you make it again and again. That's the convenience of this one here. So you're getting some hacks, you know, bring it down to you, make it easy. If you, I always say farming is not easy, you won't do it. If it's not fun, you probably won't do it. So make it fun, make it easy. You know, you're going to have some shortcuts here, there, you know, you're going to get a little less quality maybe.

45:39 but it's better than not doing it because it was too hard i tell you so uh you know make it easy this guy master lee he is the master of making it easy making it fun and we had so much fun with him and muju that was like what what a hoot man i don't know whether you heard the natural farming cannot do uh Big scale, the business of big scale farming. That's BS. Natural farming can scale to the size of your heart. So if you have heart disease, you're going to be really good at it. So, this is the 3rd place and the 4th place. I'll be able to make it as much as I made.

46:28 However, if you have number two and number three, if we do this one, you can make as much as you need. You can go to the large scale. Yeah, scale up. You just got to get smart. Either, you know, I was always told as a child, either get smart or get strong. And, you know, I usually prefer to get smart. Although I am pretty strong. I mean, I haven't been weak lately, but whatever. It's fine. So he's going to bury the IMO. Oh, watch this. Oh, he's putting it in. He's going to put some sticks across. He's going to put that thing on top. Keep it here for how many long? Once a year.

47:10 Once a year, bring some more. Yeah. Throw away. Just compost it when you're done with it. bring down new leaf lettering. You don't throw away. We'll bring the new one. You just mix it. okay so if you're just listening he is putting sticks across the rice thing that he just put into his pile he's gonna put the cover on top you know um the woven basket works so well for imo collections

47:57 yeah the woven baskets where it's at bro i don't even wood is like so overrated you bring this one and add it the root of the rice the root of the rice So he's adding the root of the rice stock around it sometimes because that has different types of bacillus subtilis or bacillus, I forget. There's one bacillus that grows because it's like sweet sugars emerge and that's what he's using. So that's the reason why you maintain the top. There's always some time down there.

48:43 So he put sticks over the top and he made it nice and he's covering it, you know, he's covering these whole things to keep them, you know, they're gonna be insulated, but then the microbes will go through this paper, no problem. So, that's what he's doing. He's just making these nice boxes. So if you're collecting in a different way, I recommend you follow his example here. Cause this guy knows what he's doing. Other people, they tell you different things. Notice he's gonna make that depth. He just signaled that he's going to put about a foot, foot and a half depth over it.

49:13 And they're burying the box up here. And then he's making it taller. And this, you know, some people just put it on the surface. Notice he buried it and put height on top, right? Some people teach you just put it on the surface. You know, the type of paper that they use, paper towels works, t-shirts work, you know, you don't need rice paper. The idea is that, you know, you're getting semi-porous paper. Don't use wax paper, you know, it's unbreathable. But printer paper, whatever you got, you know, butcher paper, you know.

50:02 Hey, thank you. All one time, thank you. Yeah, super chats. Keep it up. All right. I'll keep it up. a lift that's a that's a lift look at that potato man that's a lifting potato right there um oh yeah so notice he's burying this thing and then he's taking some rice soil that he had put it down there The purpose of this root of the rice is there is a micro-organism that root of the rice who metabolize or breaking down the protein. So it's too dry. If it's too dry, it's too dry. It's too dry. It's too dry. So they need some moisture to collect this micro-organism.

50:49 So they need extra moisture and the... Can I tell you what? The heat. They also need some temperature. The heat, they need extra moisture and heat. So if you watch the actual video of us doing this when we did it another time, which is in the office hours, I don't think it's live on the, or actually maybe it is. It's how to collect IMO indoor. If you check on my channel, search for that, you'll find it. We actually moisten this up. So one pro tip, and I don't know, he just talked about the moisture and the heat, but you do want to make sure that this stuff, if you collected it

51:24 and it's sitting around for a while, you do want to moisten it up to about 60 you know maybe let's say like 40 to 50 percent moisture before you do this maybe not that much um but you do want to make sure it's not it's a little moist and it's not super dry right the indoor imo video is awesome yeah it's really like we're doing something similar here right but you do want to make sure this stuff isn't super dried out um so moisten it up a day before you get there to make the leaves like you know not not dripping wet but

51:53 like moist wet and then bury your IMO the next day in it because you do need some moisture. If it's just you collected it and it's like a year and it's been in there and it's just in your greenhouse, it's going to be super dried out. So again, pro tip. I don't know if he's going to talk about this here. Maybe he will. We'll see. So again, he's talking about the insulation, you know, you got to insulate the box, especially in Korea in the winter, you know, here in Hawaii, I still insulate it, man. It gets cool out night. I wouldn't want to sleep out under the stars without a blanket. It's cold.

52:33 You know, if I had a blanket, it'd be great. So don't choke it out either, right? That's what they're saying. You know, airflow, warmth, moisture, all these things super important. IMO is very, very particular. If you go to the mountain area, if you don't have this kind, then make a vinyl not cover here, but just top.

53:24 Then they have an inside, they have a nice conditioner like this one. Yeah, so he's talking, if you're up in the mountains, you know, even a pro tip, Gerard took a tent and cut the bottom out of it so you can just put a tent over it. But here, you know, they're also covering it. And I always put a tarp over, or at least something over to keep the rain off. And, you know, that's one of the things about collecting indoors. It's really controlled. before you go, but after tomorrow, we're going to get to see what happens. It may not be completely ready, but we'll see what happens.

54:10 And in this case, he's saying to do a one-day collection, because we're only in Muju for a short time on this chicken trip. So he's going to check it, and it's like, I don't know. We can see if it's going to be ready or not. I doubt it. I highly doubt it. It usually takes about three to five days, even seven days to a week. Seven days to a week. Yeah, you know, it can take a while. So we'll see. I doubt it's going to be ready at all here, but with good conditions, IMOs can grow fast. So let's see what we get up to.

54:44 Number two after this is that you have to have a clay jar. You don't have to have a clay jar. When you make number three, how do you go? I use glass. Clay. If I had clay, I'd use clay, but I use glass. So it's kind of funny. I thought, you know, here I'd skip through this stuff, but it's actually really useful. I think we'll just go slow, like slow wind and progress naturally. There's so much to learn. It's not good. Joe's stepping on his microbes. So if you're just listening, we're now looking, we went from an IMO 1 collection type of area to now IMO 3 or 4 type collection area.

55:48 And he's going to explain his IMO 3 or 4 to us. So. And this is an active pile, it's warm, and he's having us smell it. Because your nose knows whether it's doing good or not. Dr. Park is standing on it after you told him not to. But if you watched last week, it's not just the leaves that you're bringing.

56:41 You're bringing some of the dirt and everything. You should watch last week's episode if you're curious how that material got there. Because we went in further detail last week. So that was January 5th. fifth episode of the KNF podcast. This is rice bran. It's different. Your bran is smaller size. Rice bran is different. And so what we were talking about is your substrate matters. Your substrate will change how your microbes happen. Substrate, very important. Lots of different considerations to why choosing certain substrate. But when we see it demonstrated

57:21 in korea it's always done with rice bran rice hole like rice bran not holes but bran and um there's various reasons for that and um it it works really well so So notice his setup here, super easy. He can get in here with his Hiller Tiller BCS machine and till this and hill it and doesn't fly everywhere. And then he can just quickly shovel it back. And every time I see him working, he's wearing one of these suits, like nice jeans, nice, nice shirt and he's just working in here i mean you know um and then it's like you gotta be able

58:11 you know if you're anyway he's very professional about it makes it very easy and that's why he does it all the time because he made it easy he built these systems so when you're thinking of doing this this type of system is like the way to do it I'm going to make it up and down. I'm going to make it up. I'm going to make it up. I'm going to make it up. I'm going to make it up. I'm going to show you how to make it up.

58:56 If you have higher temperatures, then the microcosm dies. So you have to mix it up and down. But there's too much work and there's too much time. So I have a machine to mix it in the machine. Okay? So you have to go over 120. You'll start growing the wrong microbes. So it's 50C, 120 degrees right in there. You need to turn it because you get the wrong thing. So he has a machine. That's why he doesn't sweat to do this. He turns it. He's like doing it. It's right. is he going to show us the machine sounds like it okay so this is pro tip

59:36 you use a machine it's 2025 use a machine so this is what he's gonna do he has a hiller machine set up on his bcs type of thing i'm gonna mute it because it's gonna be loud but basically he's taking this hilling type machine, not a tilling machine, a hilling machine, and he's running that through the center. Look at him. He's just where he's running it back and forth, turning it, running it. So it doesn't hit the ground with his little Hiller machine. It's not a tiller. It's a Hiller. It throws stuff out and away versus under and turning in,

1:00:11 but a Hiller blade on a BCS. And he just goes in back and forth. And this is how he's mixing his IMO, right? He stirs it all in. Notice the fence, the walls on the side, keeping it from flying everywhere he makes it super easy this way he's able to turn it a couple times a day without breaking his back man and he's able to keep really nice good stuff then he'll come in with a shovel and kind of reform the pile make sure it's all good but majority of the work is done with this type machine and i'm just saying there's this is one way to do it there's a lot of ways to do it

1:00:42 right but having a machine to do it look how easy that was three four forward back he's already turned it now he got this great stuff going yeah whenever you feel hot yeah then you use it Yeah, if it's 50, 60 degrees centigrade, you gotta upside down. Yep, so turning it this way, that way it doesn't overheat, you don't break a sweat, you do it, make it easy, turn it, keep it good.

1:01:30 Like I said, if it's not easy, you won't do it. Look how easy this is. He's making it so easy. This is how he did it. yeah this one lumpy right next to the wall so he's gonna stir it off the wall right because you'll have grosser microbes growing against the wall but if he pulls it away from the wall he won't get that grossness going so it does take a little bit of manual effort does take a little bit of manual effort this clumpy stuff you don't want it clumpy like that that's actinomycines it's a different smell you want it to be really good nice stuff so you do

1:02:04 We gotta pull it away from the wall with a little bit of manual effort, but majority of his stuff is done with a machine. So smart, smart, smart. If you slip in the really hot in the bottom, then you gotta up-side down. And that's the purpose of this. So I usually shovel to make it not lumpy, but I waited for you to show. So, the new flight is coming. So, we can get a new flight. So, we can get a new flight. So, you can get a new flight. So, with that, we're reaching the end of the hour. I guess we're two minutes over, but I think it's worth going through this IMO.

1:02:52 Hopefully, it's giving you better ideas, seeing how it's done. how it's done look at the bolo song standing up on that stuff man wild so um we're gonna go knf podcast signing out for this week i will see you next week same time uh same place uh what it'll be 19th here and if you're not a member be a member i'll see you this afternoon it's gonna be great i'm looking forward to it it's always fun uh we're having good times so uh wheat mill run is good um rice bran has even other things in there there's all kinds of reasons to get your

1:03:22 substrate perfect to understand what you're really doing. So appreciate it. Appreciate you. I will see you next week or later today. And thanks for tuning in. Thanks for being part of this. Remember, do good for your family. We can do this. We can do this family. Thank you. Love you. All right.